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2013-10-06 04:31:29 PM
7 votes:
Monuments shut down = pissed off Republicans.

Starving families and kids dying of cancer = okay with Republicans.

Priorities.
2013-10-06 10:08:14 AM
7 votes:
ok, normally i'd say that anyone who actually believes or forwards this should seriously kill themselves before they breed. but sadly most are probably in their 70s, so that ship has sailed.
2013-10-06 04:22:48 PM
5 votes:
I love these stories so much.

The right goes on and on about how insignificant the federal government isto their lives, and then they're the first ones to absolutely lose their shiat once they realize it may interfere with their weekend plans.

You guys want to talk about going Gault when you couldn't even handle 4 days without 17% of the federal government!
2013-10-06 12:33:14 PM
5 votes:
The National Parks were closed in the 1996 shutdown as well.  This isn't some plot, this is the natural result of what happens when the government shuts down.
2013-10-06 10:49:11 AM
5 votes:

clancifer: SauronWasFramed: Given that the admin has kicked people out of their vacation homes, blocked the road to hotels and shut off the valve to old faithful, it is only because there isn't a feasible way to accomplish this that they aren't  doing this.

Tea Party bullshiat detected.


*psst* i think the "valve to old faithful" thing might be a clue that he's joking.
2013-10-06 04:56:03 PM
4 votes:

Tatterdemalian: Really? Snopes has proof that all those pictures of traffic barricades blocking off every single overlook within a 100 mile radius of Mt. Rushmore are all fake?

(one click and a bazillion attempted popups later)

Oh for fark's sake.



THIS is how the Feds block access to Mt. Rushmore. And they only resorted to cones because they didn't have enough full barricades to control access to 1000 miles of road.


Dude. You're not supposed to pull over on that curvy road to look at Mt Rushmore, because people need to use it as a road. The cones don't block access to the park. They block people from creating a traffic hazard.
2013-10-06 10:41:40 AM
4 votes:

SauronWasFramed: Given that the admin has kicked people out of their vacation homes, blocked the road to hotels and shut off the valve to old faithful, it is only because there isn't a feasible way to accomplish this that they aren't  doing this.


Tea Party bullshiat detected.
2013-10-06 05:16:51 PM
3 votes:

Eponymous: ManateeGag: shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.

shhh...the truth doesn't fit with the narrative.

RTFA....or are words too hard for you to understand and interfere with the development of your "narrative".

The artilcle included the comments from people that interpreted the cones as blocking them from being able to park on Rt 244 where it overlooks the monument.   It's the only real place you can stop and get a good look at or take photos of the monument from a public road.   So, the feds throwing up "barrycades" to block people from parking on the shoulder of a state roadway to look at a federal monument could tend to be interpreted as a tad overzealous by a reasonable person.


That's not even close to being true. There are at least a dozen different roads that offer a good view of Mt. Rushmore. Some of best roadside viewing of the mountain is from the Iron Mountain Road, which is a state road that runs through Custer State Park, and is thus not effected by the federal shutdown. Of course, that road is currently impassible due to a record-shattering blizzard that plowed through the region over the weekend, so I suppose one could argue that Obama used HAARP to hammer the area with snow in order to keep people from viewing it. That seems like a bit of overkill just to stop a few people from seeing a mountain, but we all know that Obummer will go to any lengths to hurt Real Americans.

All snark aside, I do believe that the administration has been a bit over-zealous in shutting down access to public areas that do not need to be shut down. In some cases, it takes more effort to shut those areas down than it does to just let people have access. For example, they announced this week that they were barring hunters from hunting on federal wetlands. There is no reason to do that. There are no federal employees wandering around those areas. In fact, they rely almost solely on the state to enforce hunting regulations for them. The state, for their part, have announced that they will continue to check hunters for compliance on federal grounds, but will NOT enforce the shutdown or cite hunters for being on them as long as they are following all other laws. It's one area where, in my opinion, the administration is acting poorly and giving the Republicans some semi-legitimate ammunition to use against them. The Republicans shut down the government out of spite, but that doesn't mean that the Obama administration has to act like a child having a tantrum by shutting down access to federal lands just to make the shutdown hurt a little more. They had a chance to make this a complete rout, but they're needlessly giving Republicans at least a few small victories when it comes to public opinion.
2013-10-06 05:13:19 PM
3 votes:
The fact that Snopes even had to address this is depressing.
2013-10-06 04:12:37 PM
3 votes:
Lot of fuss over a TOURIST ATTRACTION.
2013-10-06 12:26:40 PM
3 votes:
The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.
2013-10-06 04:43:51 PM
2 votes:

dewright_ca: Considering they tried to block private property (ie Mt Vernon) its hard to doubt some of the Executive Branches pettiness


They shut down the Mount Vernon Trail, which connects Mount Vernon and Rosslyn. The MVT is owned and operated by the National Parks Service. The parking lots at Mount Vernon are also maintained by the NPS and the parking attendants are NPS employees. After people complained, the parking lots were reopened but are unattended.

So, basically you're saying that the employees of the NPS should work without pay. You're saying you're entitled to someone else's labor! Socialism!
2013-10-06 04:39:10 PM
2 votes:

skullkrusher: Eponymous: ManateeGag: shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.

shhh...the truth doesn't fit with the narrative.

RTFA....or are words too hard for you to understand and interfere with the development of your "narrative".

The artilcle included the comments from people that interpreted the cones as blocking them from being able to park on Rt 244 where it overlooks the monument.   It's the only real place you can stop and get a good look at or take photos of the monument from a public road.   So, the feds throwing up "barrycades" to block people from parking on the shoulder of a state roadway to look at a federal monument could tend to be interpreted as a tad overzealous by a reasonable person.

oh please. It was just a concern for the safety of motorists that the park service suddenly could no longer ignore on October 1.


Maybe it started on the first because the park is shut down so they didn't want people parking on the road and blocking traffic. Which isn't remotely unreasonable or nefarious. To a normal person

Or maybe it's all a conspiracy
2013-10-06 04:23:43 PM
2 votes:

ManateeGag: shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.

shhh...the truth doesn't fit with the narrative.


RTFA....or are words too hard for you to understand and interfere with the development of your "narrative".

The artilcle included the comments from people that interpreted the cones as blocking them from being able to park on Rt 244 where it overlooks the monument.   It's the only real place you can stop and get a good look at or take photos of the monument from a public road.   So, the feds throwing up "barrycades" to block people from parking on the shoulder of a state roadway to look at a federal monument could tend to be interpreted as a tad overzealous by a reasonable person.
2013-10-06 04:16:11 PM
2 votes:

skullkrusher: shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.

http://siouxfallsbusinessjournal.argusleader.com/article/20131004/UP DA TES/310040047/S-D-officials-object-feds-barring-visitors-from-highway- viewing-areas-near-Mount-Rushmore


According to that, the federal government put those there to stop people from stopping *on the side of the road* to view Mount Rushmore, to encourage them to use the actual viewing areas where you pull off. So that, you know, you don't have a bunch of cars on the side of the road blocking the breakdown lane and slowing down traffic. None of the actual viewing areas were closed.

But, yeah, some people will continue to insist that it's something else because socialism.
2013-10-06 04:00:36 PM
2 votes:
Only read about half the thread, but the shutdown doesn't farking MATTER with regard to Rushmore. Nobody can get there because the Hills just got two feet of snow. SDDOT just opened 90 west of Murdo this morning.
2013-10-06 03:56:21 PM
2 votes:

SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.


I just drove past there. There are no cones.
2013-10-06 03:50:04 PM
2 votes:
Is this the part where someone points out that, before the 1960's, everybody just ignored government shutdowns. They just kept working and getting paid.

/ what's so damn hard about that?
2013-10-06 01:57:55 PM
2 votes:

SkinnyHead: Peter von Nostrand: SkinnyHead: Kyosuke: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

Who did?

It says in the article that the National Park Service put up those cones on the road.

Obama sent a bunch of furloughed NP employees to my house. They ate all my food, drank all my beer and they shaved a B on my dog. True story

No they didn't.  What they did do was put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore to be vindictive.


just because you repeat a lie, doesn't make it true.
2013-10-06 01:44:17 PM
2 votes:

Peter von Nostrand: SkinnyHead: Kyosuke: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

Who did?

It says in the article that the National Park Service put up those cones on the road.

Obama sent a bunch of furloughed NP employees to my house. They ate all my food, drank all my beer and they shaved a B on my dog. True story


How can they be furloughed when they are busy blocking your access to all the parks?
2013-10-06 01:01:11 PM
2 votes:

IronTom: TuteTibiImperes: It's a different world today

Bullshiat.  That is a Leftist wet dream.  It is still America no matter how many MSM freaks tell yo otherwise.


Uh huh, sure, security concerns haven't changed at all in 17 years, whatever you say.
2013-10-06 12:57:06 PM
2 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: It's a different world today


Bullshiat.  That is a Leftist wet dream.  It is still America no matter how many MSM freaks tell yo otherwise.
2013-10-06 12:53:27 PM
2 votes:

IronTom: TuteTibiImperes: The National Parks were closed in the 1996 shutdown as well.  This isn't some plot, this is the natural result of what happens when the government shuts down.

the memorials and statues were not.  Our American presidents did not try to deliberately cause pain to the American people.


It's a different world today.  Without the normal number of security staff, guides, rangers, and maintenance employees keeping an eye on things the monuments could easily become attractive targets for terrorism.  There were already a number of instances of people defacing the monuments earlier this year before the furloughs removed most of those who keep watch.
2013-10-07 03:29:19 PM
1 votes:

dewright_ca: Considering they tried to block private property (ie Mt Vernon) its hard to doubt some of the Executive Branches pettiness


For me it was when they shut down a restaurant that employs dozens of people (not government employees or in a government building) that is wholly accessed from a city owned street and whose parking is also city owned. Not a place that closed its doors due to most of their customers being federal workers that aren't there either. It's a century old privately owned restaurant that has been a landmark long before the government got involved that happens to have some of its property on national park property (because they designated it as such in the 1970's when they created the Golden Gate National Recreation Area). One would never know that the government was involved in any way unless someone told you (and odds are that they would think that you were pulling their leg). Absolutely no reason to do it either. All of their services come from the city of San Francisco, all of them. All of the employees are non-government workers. At no point does the NPS get involved in the day to day operations but they made them close it anyway. That's just petty vindictiveness as I see it.

I can at least understand it if you had to use federal land to get to it or if it used federal services for fire, security, utilities or something like that but it doesn't. Not at all. No more so than the diner 20 yards away that is open because it just barely missed the line that was drawn when they created the GGNRA.
2013-10-06 11:18:51 PM
1 votes:

udhq: I love these stories so much.

The right goes on and on about how insignificant the federal government isto their lives, and then they're the first ones to absolutely lose their shiat once they realize it may interfere with their weekend plans.

You guys want to talk about going Gault when you couldn't even handle 4 days without 17% of the federal government!


Because we need the Government to hold our hands to go look at a waterfall or some giant trees.  This is what pants-wetting Liberals actually believe. The sane world would prefer to be left alone to our own devices, thanks.
2013-10-06 09:22:17 PM
1 votes:

Urmuf Hamer: You know this means you drank the tea/koolaid, right? Though sure the President is probably devoting his every waking hour to making considered decisions on how to best annoy the bagger costituency. Seems likely now that you believe it.


I never said anything about "the bagger constituency", nor did I say that Obama himself is going down a list and checking off what should be closed and what should not. SOMEONE within the Obama administration IS making those decisions, and they are doing so under Obama's direction. Now, it's no skin off of my ass if they close the WWII memorial, Mt. Rushmore, federal wetlands, etc. I said that I think that it's a mistake politically. I think the administration, in SOME cases, is going overboard and closing some things that do not need to be closed simply to try to prove to the average American that the shutdown is bad. Then again, this is Fark and I dared to offer criticism to the infallible Obama, so I knew that someone would freak out about it. But yeah, I'm clearly the one who has "drank the koolaid".
2013-10-06 08:35:13 PM
1 votes:

IronTom: Happened upon this.  No citations, maybe you can ask Snopes:
tl;dr all of it, fwiw


1. Treatments for Children Suffering
From Cancer - The GOP have agreed to a compromise by funding part of the
government, including the National Institutes of Health, which offers
children with cancer last-chance experimental treatment. Obama has
threatened to veto this funding.

2. The World War II Memorial -
The WWII memorial on the DC Mall is a 24/7 open-air memorial that is
not regularly staffed. Although the White House must have known that
WWII veterans in their eighties and nineties had already booked flights
to visit this memorial, the White House still found the resources to
spitefully barricade the attraction.

The Republican National
Committee has offered to cover any costs required to keep the memorial
open. The White House refused. Moreover, like the NIH, the GOP will pass
a compromise bill that would fund America's national parks. Obama has
threatened to veto that bill.

3. Furloughed Military Chaplains
Not Allowed to Work for Free - Furloughed military chaplains willing to
celebrate Mass and baptisms for free have been told they will be
punished for doing so.

4. Business Stops In Florida Keys -
Although the GOP have agreed to compromise in the ongoing budget
stalemate and fund the parks, Obama has threatened to veto that funding.
As a result, small businesses, hunters, and commercial fisherman can't
practice their trade. While the feds have deemed the personnel necessary
to keep this area open "non-essential," the "enforcement officers" to
ensure no business is done are "essential."

5. Obama Blacks Out
Sports, Entertainment Programming to Overseas Troops - The American
Forces Network (AFN) that provides American sports and entertainment
programming to our troops stationed abroad, has been shut down. For some
reason, though, AFN News will still broadcast news, just not any of the
popular and fun stuff.

Camp David is essential, but popular programming for heroes over ...


I don't like Obama and his methods of executing his strategies and designs.  Period, end of story.  Book it. Done.....I won't be changing my mind.  He and the Democrats are as much and more to blame for this manufactured budget crises than are the Republicans. And, of course, science for the win!....
2013-10-06 08:26:32 PM
1 votes:
Happened upon this.  No citations, maybe you can ask Snopes:
tl;dr all of it, fwiw


1. Treatments for Children Suffering
From Cancer - The GOP have agreed to a compromise by funding part of the
government, including the National Institutes of Health, which offers
children with cancer last-chance experimental treatment. Obama has
threatened to veto this funding.

2. The World War II Memorial -
The WWII memorial on the DC Mall is a 24/7 open-air memorial that is
not regularly staffed. Although the White House must have known that
WWII veterans in their eighties and nineties had already booked flights
to visit this memorial, the White House still found the resources to
spitefully barricade the attraction.

The Republican National
Committee has offered to cover any costs required to keep the memorial
open. The White House refused. Moreover, like the NIH, the GOP will pass
a compromise bill that would fund America's national parks. Obama has
threatened to veto that bill.

3. Furloughed Military Chaplains
Not Allowed to Work for Free - Furloughed military chaplains willing to
celebrate Mass and baptisms for free have been told they will be
punished for doing so.

4. Business Stops In Florida Keys -
Although the GOP have agreed to compromise in the ongoing budget
stalemate and fund the parks, Obama has threatened to veto that funding.
As a result, small businesses, hunters, and commercial fisherman can't
practice their trade. While the feds have deemed the personnel necessary
to keep this area open "non-essential," the "enforcement officers" to
ensure no business is done are "essential."

5. Obama Blacks Out
Sports, Entertainment Programming to Overseas Troops - The American
Forces Network (AFN) that provides American sports and entertainment
programming to our troops stationed abroad, has been shut down. For some
reason, though, AFN News will still broadcast news, just not any of the
popular and fun stuff.

Camp David is essential, but popular programming for heroes overseas is non-essential.

6. Obama Closes D-Day Memorial - The GOP have offered to compromise and
fund the National Parks. Obama has said he will veto this compromise
legislation. As a result, along with 24 other military cemeteries, the
D-Day memorial in Normandy has been barricaded.

7. Obama Tries
to Close Privately-Funded Mt. Vernon - Although George Washington's Mt.
Vernon estate is privately funded, the feds blocked visitors from
entering the parking area because the Park Service maintains the lot.
Apparently, the New Media publicity resulted in the feds backing down.
8. Obama Closes Over 100 Privately-Managed Parks That Cost No Money to
Run - The U.S. Treasury actually makes money from the rent paid by a
private company that "employs about 400-500 camp workers and managers
across about a dozen states." No federal money is used to operate these
parks. No federal employees are used to staff these parks. Taxpayers
make a profit from these parks. Still, Obama had them closed and as a
result 400-500 employees and a private business are taking it in the
neck.

9. Obama Closes Self-Sustaining Colonial Farm It Hasn't
Supported Since 1980 - "For the first time in 40 years, the National
Park Service (NPS) has finally succeeded in closing the Farm down to the
public. In previous budget dramas, the Farm has always been exempted
since the NPS provides no staff or resources to operate the Farm."
10. Obama Tries to Close State-Run Parks in Wisconsin - "The park
service ordered state officials to close the northern unit of the Kettle
Moraine, Devil's Lake, and Interstate state parks and the state-owned
portion of the Horicon Marsh, but state authorities rebuffed the request
because the lion's share of the funding came from state, not federal
coffers."

11. Obama Closes Vietnam Memorial - The GOP have
passed compromise legislation that would fund national memorials and
parks, and open them to the public. Obama threatened a veto. Apparently,
the "essential" government employees are those erecting barricades, not
those who could keep the memorial open.

12. Obama Closes
Privately-Owned Hotel, Police Block Parking Lot - "The operator of a
51-room inn located on U.S. government-owned land in North Carolina
abandoned his defiant stance on Thursday to keep the property open
despite being ordered to close as part of the federal government
shutdown."

October is this inn's prime season. The GOP have
offered compromise funding opening the parks. Obama said he will veto
that compromise.

State troopers blocked customers from entering the inn's parking lot.
13. Park Service Ranger: 'We've Been Told to Make Life As Difficult For
People As We Can' - "It's a cheap way to deal with the situation," an
angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. "We've
been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It's
disgusting."

14. Obama Forces Residents Out of Private Homes -
"The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals.
They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because
they sit on federal land."

The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
15. Acadia Park In Maine Shut Down - '"We've been training for two
years at CrossFit for this hike - no kidding," Hart said. She added that
the shutdown should be as inconvenient for the Washington politicians
who caused it as it is for average citizens.'

The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.
16. Historic Restaurant Open During Last Shutdown Forced to Close - "An
iconic Philadelphia restaurant has been forced to close its doors and
turn away booked parties because of the government shutdown. ...


"Restaurant public relations director Molly Yun said they were notified
there was a possibility a closure might happen, but they were allowed to
remain open during the last government shutdown 17 years ago."

The restaurant is part of the federal park system, which the GOP have agreed to fund. Obama said he will veto the funding.
17. Obama Shuts Down a Road Tha Goes Through CO Park: "The Forest
Service announcement, in turn, led the Pitkin County commissioners to
order that Maroon Creek Road be shut down at the height of the colorful
leaf-changing season. Ahead of what is to be one of the busiest weekends
of the fall, the road is to be closed to vehicles at T-Lazy-7 Ranch,
pending a resolution to the government shutdown."

The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto that compromise funding.
18. Residents Plan Protest of Cape Hatteras Closing - "Businesses and
residents on the Outer Banks have planned a peaceful protest of the
closure of Hatteras Island's beaches due to the government shut down.

"The U.S. House Wednesday passed a measure to reopen national parks and monuments. It will now go to the U.S. Senate."
In the unlikely event the Democrat Senate passes the bill, Obama has
threatened a veto of any compromise legislation opening the parks.
19. Obama Blocks People From LOOKING at Mt. Rushmore - "Blocking access
to trails and programs at South Dakota's most popular attraction was
one thing, but state officials didn't expect Congress' budget stalemate
to shut down a view of Mount Rushmore.

"The National Park
Service placed cones along highway viewing areas outside Mount Rushmore
this week, barring visitors from pulling over and taking pictures of the
famed monument.

The cones first went up Oct. 1, said Dusty
Johnson, Gov. Dennis Daugaard's chief of staff. The state asked that
they be taken down, and federal officials did so with some of them. The
state was told the cones were a safety precaution to help channel cars
into viewing areas rather than to bar their entrance."

20.
Crucial USDA Websites Taken Down - "The U.S. Department of Agriculture
has turned off its entire website in response to the government
shutdown, leaving farmers, reporters and others with no way to access
any of the agency's information online. ...

"USDA's total website
shutdown goes far beyond the response of other federal agencies, and
seems to be part of an effort to make people feel the effects of the
shutdown. Thursday morning calls to USDA's press office seeking an
explanation were not answered."

This website is down and yet the ObamaCare and White House websites are up.
21. St. Louis Gateway Arch Closed - The GOP have agreed to compromise
legislation funding the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.

22.
Park Shutdown Bounces Rowers from Potomac - "The ripple effect of a
government shutdown has pushed rowers from the Potomac River.


"Multiple high schools rent space at the Thompson Boat Center in
Georgetown. But like other places controlled by the National Park
Service, it closed Tuesday morning."

The GOP have agreed to compromise funding opening the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.

23. Thompson Boat Center Closed In DC - The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.
24. Obama Closes Military Commissary - "Military members, veterans and
families who shop at local tax-free store are shocked to discover the
store's doors locked; no progress to end stalemate in Washington."
While the government has deemed the White House chefs "essential,"
working class military personnel have lost their tax-free store
privileges.

Military personnel and their families tell me that they have never lost these privileges in previous shutdowns.
25. Arizona Offers to Fund Grand Canyon, Obama Says 'Drop Dead' -
"Obama has ordered the Grand Canyon to stay closed, even after the state
of Arizona and local businesses have offered to cover the costs
necessary to keep it open. In other words, the shutdown isn't about the
money - it's about hurting the American people just because he can."
2013-10-06 06:23:31 PM
1 votes:

IronTom: TuteTibiImperes: It's a different world today

Bullshiat.  That is a Leftist wet dream.  It is still America no matter how many MSM freaks tell yo otherwise.


It's a leftist wet dream to prevent citizens from seeing monuments to past leaders of their government?
2013-10-06 06:02:17 PM
1 votes:
SkinnyHead

Derp

Shut up, idiot.
2013-10-06 05:14:42 PM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: The National Parks were closed in the 1996 shutdown as well.  This isn't some plot, this is the natural result of what happens when the government shuts down.


There's nothing natural about it. Until 1980 government just went about its business as usual until a budget agreement was reached. This idiocy is self-imposed.
2013-10-06 05:12:58 PM
1 votes:

grumpfuff: sendtodave: What are we paying these doofs for? I say we shut them down, too, until they can actually do their jobs instead of spending my money.

K. We pay the most important ones. But because we're still in the shutdown, there's little to no money coming in. So after that, we aren't able to pay ANY bills. Which means we default on almost everything. Which is bad.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?


Because I'm willfully obtuse.
2013-10-06 05:12:32 PM
1 votes:

dewright_ca: Locations like the National Mall being fenced cost more than having it open


[citation needed]
2013-10-06 05:05:35 PM
1 votes:

MrHappyRotter: Oh, it gets worse.  Friday night I was driving to a gun show here in NC and my car stalled out and stopped working on the way there.  I called triple K, and they came out and told me that I ran out of gas, that I just needed to fill my tank up.  I don't understand this.  I filled that tank up when I bought the car.  Why is Obama forcing me to fill it up again, all of a sudden, now that I wanted to buy a gun?


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farking awesome!
2013-10-06 04:46:05 PM
1 votes:
Assuming this "spite" argument was true, which it's not, let's sum up:

Democrats close some monuments, in order to make an ideological point.

Republicans deny affordable healthcare to millions, in order to make an ideological point.

Hmm, I'm stumped - there's just no way to tell who's more in the wrong here.
2013-10-06 04:31:33 PM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: grumpfuff: skullkrusher: grumpfuff: skullkrusher: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lot of fuss over a TOURIST ATTRACTION.

it's the only tangible impact of the shutdown that anyone has noticed.

Yea, fark the CDC and NIH and NOAA and FDA and stuff. Who needs them?

We do. However, the shutdown has not resulted in a massive outbreak of disease of spoiled food. So...

So what you're saying is that, gods forbid, if a plague suddenly hit the USA while the CDC was closed, teabaggers would suddenly realize the government is actually good for some things? Somehow I doubt that.


/get your government hands off my medicare

no, they wouldn't realize it. I'm just saying that it is quite possible to overstate the current impact of this shutdown as people have been doing it since it started.


I don't know a single person who has said "OMG THE SHUTDOWN WILL BE BAD FROM DAY 1", except maybe a few whackjobs.

What I do hear is a lot of "Um..guys..we really need to fix this soon before it farks us all."

Then there are the teabaggers and their "LOL SLIMDOWN BARRYCADES!" who show absolutely no understanding of the situation, but gosh darn it, they know they're right.
2013-10-06 04:25:50 PM
1 votes:

DubyaHater: TuteTibiImperes: DubyaHater: CSB......
Yesterday my GF and I drove down to Mabry Mill in Meadows of Dan, VA. Upon arrival, there was a sign up that said "Closed until further notice due to government shutdown". Several people were there and all said the same thing....."Thanks again Obama".
I know everyone wants to think the republicans will suffer for this shutdown, but they won't. There are plenty of people who blame Obama for this. There won't be a major political shift towards democrats because of this shutdown.

They really should have put something on the signs that lets people know the House Republicans were responsible for it.

It doesn't really matter to me one way or another. People will think what they want to think, depending what side of the political spectrum they're on. I've just noticed the political bias of Fark more than usual lately. There's been a lot of hoping and wishing around here that republicans will take 100% of the blame for this.


I'll admit I'm in that camp, but for good reason.  The GOP already perverted the will of the country through gerrymandering their way into the House, and has done nothing but cause trouble and push policies that would hurt the country since the day Obama took office.  If Obama had known what they would do once they got their foot in the door in 2010 I think he would have pushed through much more legislation and fought much harder his first two years when he had a Democratically controlled Senate and House.

Nothing major can be accomplished as long as the GOP controls the House.  If this mess can somehow backfire on them enough that they give up the House in 2014 we can look forward to two years of unopposed progressive legislation to really get things on the right track.
2013-10-06 04:22:31 PM
1 votes:
Really? Snopes has proof that all those pictures of traffic barricades blocking off every single overlook within a 100 mile radius of Mt. Rushmore are all fake?

(one click and a bazillion attempted popups later)

Oh for fark's sake.

pbs.twimg.com

THIS is how the Feds block access to Mt. Rushmore. And they only resorted to cones because they didn't have enough full barricades to control access to 1000 miles of road.
2013-10-06 04:21:46 PM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: it's the only tangible impact of the shutdown that anyone has noticed.


I'm sure the employers who use E-Verify and small business loans and the families that use WIC will be interested to hear that, for starters.
2013-10-06 04:20:28 PM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: DubyaHater: CSB......
Yesterday my GF and I drove down to Mabry Mill in Meadows of Dan, VA. Upon arrival, there was a sign up that said "Closed until further notice due to government shutdown". Several people were there and all said the same thing....."Thanks again Obama".
I know everyone wants to think the republicans will suffer for this shutdown, but they won't. There are plenty of people who blame Obama for this. There won't be a major political shift towards democrats because of this shutdown.

They really should have put something on the signs that lets people know the House Republicans were responsible for it.


It doesn't really matter to me one way or another. People will think what they want to think, depending what side of the political spectrum they're on. I've just noticed the political bias of Fark more than usual lately. There's been a lot of hoping and wishing around here that republicans will take 100% of the blame for this.
2013-10-06 04:11:05 PM
1 votes:

shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.


shhh...the truth doesn't fit with the narrative.
2013-10-06 04:08:10 PM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.

http://siouxfallsbusinessjournal.argusleader.com/article/20131004/UP DA TES/310040047/S-D-officials-object-feds-barring-visitors-from-highway- viewing-areas-near-Mount-Rushmore


You linked to an article stating the cones were gone two days ago.
2013-10-06 04:07:43 PM
1 votes:

SauronWasFramed: Given that the admin has kicked people out of their vacation homes, blocked the road to hotels and shut off the valve to old faithful, it is only because there isn't a feasible way to accomplish this that they aren't  doing this.


Admins don't do that, moderators do.
2013-10-06 04:04:46 PM
1 votes:

DubyaHater: CSB......
Yesterday my GF and I drove down to Mabry Mill in Meadows of Dan, VA. Upon arrival, there was a sign up that said "Closed until further notice due to government shutdown". Several people were there and all said the same thing....."Thanks again Obama".
I know everyone wants to think the republicans will suffer for this shutdown, but they won't. There are plenty of people who blame Obama for this. There won't be a major political shift towards democrats because of this shutdown.


They really should have put something on the signs that lets people know the House Republicans were responsible for it.
2013-10-06 03:55:14 PM
1 votes:
CSB......
Yesterday my GF and I drove down to Mabry Mill in Meadows of Dan, VA. Upon arrival, there was a sign up that said "Closed until further notice due to government shutdown". Several people were there and all said the same thing....."Thanks again Obama".
I know everyone wants to think the republicans will suffer for this shutdown, but they won't. There are plenty of people who blame Obama for this. There won't be a major political shift towards democrats because of this shutdown.
2013-10-06 03:52:31 PM
1 votes:
the GOP is made of stupid.
2013-10-06 03:44:07 PM
1 votes:

IronTom: TuteTibiImperes: It's a different world today

Bullshiat.  That is a Leftist wet dream.  It is still America no matter how many MSM freaks tell yo otherwise.


Patrlot Act. That ls all.
2013-10-06 01:17:22 PM
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IronTom: vpb: IronTom: Weak excuse for barring Americans from Americana.  Oh there are some lefty plants that painted some crap on a monument hence providing a cover narrative to support  no longer letting you see the real America, let's wrap them with a picture of Miley Cyrus and armed swat teams so you can't get inspired by the exceptional America, and maybe you'll forget about it.

I heard that Obama stole the statue of Liberty to sell the copper for scrap.

On a more serious note, what is the probability that there is any gold left in Fort Knox?


The official word is 147.3 million ounces.  So I'd say the probability is around 100% that about that amount is present there.
2013-10-06 12:44:43 PM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: The National Parks were closed in the 1996 shutdown as well.  This isn't some plot, this is the natural result of what happens when the government shuts down.


the memorials and statues were not.  Our American presidents did not try to deliberately cause pain to the American people.
2013-10-06 12:13:02 PM
1 votes:

RedPhoenix122: This was on my FB feed last night, with someone who ACTUALLY believed it...it's a sad, sad world.


"And the pilots aren't even BEING PAID thanks to the Obama slimdown!!11!"

/ you know someone somewhere believes all this
2013-10-06 12:07:48 PM
1 votes:
img.fark.net

Seems legit...
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-06 12:00:12 PM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: clancifer: SauronWasFramed: Given that the admin has kicked people out of their vacation homes, blocked the road to hotels and shut off the valve to old faithful, it is only because there isn't a feasible way to accomplish this that they aren't  doing this.

Tea Party bullshiat detected.

*psst* i think the "valve to old faithful" thing might be a clue that he's joking.


I suspect that there are teatards who would believe that.
2013-10-06 10:33:53 AM
1 votes:
Given that the admin has kicked people out of their vacation homes, blocked the road to hotels and shut off the valve to old faithful, it is only because there isn't a feasible way to accomplish this that they aren't  doing this.
 
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