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2013-10-06 07:12:11 PM  
The cones are probably gone after the snowplows had to go through and remove 2' of snow over the weekend.
 
2013-10-06 07:13:29 PM  

vpb: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I heard that Obama was going to use his contrails to blot out the sun to force people to give in to his demands.


His demands of health care... and if the sun is blotted out everyone will have a vitamin d deficiency.. and need health care. .Brilliant!
 
2013-10-06 07:20:09 PM  
i43.tinypic.com
 
2013-10-06 07:25:45 PM  
this is actually true, I'm piloting one of those helicopters right now
 
2013-10-06 07:27:35 PM  
teabaggers give retards a bad name
 
2013-10-06 07:29:04 PM  

SauronWasFramed: Given that the admin has kicked people out of their vacation homes, blocked the road to hotels and shut off the valve to old faithful, it is only because there isn't a feasible way to accomplish this that they aren't  doing this.


7/10 you're getting better
 
2013-10-06 07:40:00 PM  

udhq: I love these stories so much.

The right goes on and on about how insignificant the federal government isto their lives, and then they're the first ones to absolutely lose their shiat once they realize it may interfere with their weekend plans.

You guys want to talk about going Gault when you couldn't even handle 4 days without 17% of the federal government!


This. Just in case this hadn't been this-ed the 10million times the situation absolutely merits,already.
 
2013-10-06 07:42:01 PM  

SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.


no park personnel = liability in case of accident = lawsuit

Smart thinking FatAss
 
2013-10-06 07:44:28 PM  

Bucky Katt: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

no park personnel = liability in case of accident = lawsuit

Smart thinking FatAss


yeah. The shutdown has forced them to furlough those federal employees who stand on the side of the highway.

Good response
 
2013-10-06 07:49:30 PM  

randomjsa: The only thing preventing Obama from being that spiteful is that it's not feasible to do that.


Listen libtard, President Obama is the president of the United States of Amurca, the single most exceptional office of the single most exceptional country provided directly to us for our exceptional use by the best god. Don't be projecting your damn commie anti-amurcan self loathing onto to whats feasible for THE amurcan president to do. Whats the matter with you libbie libs anyway? Why do you all hate amurica?
 
2013-10-06 07:54:44 PM  

jaytkay: skullkrusher: shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.

http://siouxfallsbusinessjournal.argusleader.com/article/20131004/UP DA TES/310040047/S-D-officials-object-feds-barring-visitors-from-highway- viewing-areas-near-Mount-Rushmore

You linked to an article stating the cones were gone two days ago.


Zing!
 
2013-10-06 07:57:47 PM  

skullkrusher: Bucky Katt: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

no park personnel = liability in case of accident = lawsuit

Smart thinking FatAss

yeah. The shutdown has forced them to furlough those federal employees who stand on the side of the highway.

Good response


You know that because of the outdated article you linked to earlier?
 
2013-10-06 07:58:58 PM  

Bucky Katt: skullkrusher: Bucky Katt: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

no park personnel = liability in case of accident = lawsuit

Smart thinking FatAss

yeah. The shutdown has forced them to furlough those federal employees who stand on the side of the highway.

Good response

You know that because of the outdated article you linked to earlier?


outdated? No, I didn't need an article to know that we don't have federal employees who stand on the shoulder of the highway for no reason. Imma genius like that
 
2013-10-06 08:06:03 PM  

sendtodave: grumpfuff: sendtodave: What are we paying these doofs for? I say we shut them down, too, until they can actually do their jobs instead of spending my money.

K. We pay the most important ones. But because we're still in the shutdown, there's little to no money coming in. So after that, we aren't able to pay ANY bills. Which means we default on almost everything. Which is bad.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Because I'm willfully obtuse.


So... Let me see. I think I have this. Wait. You're probably not a corrupt prison warden in a classic movie... no. You're a teabagger?
 
2013-10-06 08:14:58 PM  

mod3072: Eponymous: ManateeGag: shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.

shhh...the truth doesn't fit with the narrative.

RTFA....or are words too hard for you to understand and interfere with the development of your "narrative".

The artilcle included the comments from people that interpreted the cones as blocking them from being able to park on Rt 244 where it overlooks the monument.   It's the only real place you can stop and get a good look at or take photos of the monument from a public road.   So, the feds throwing up "barrycades" to block people from parking on the shoulder of a state roadway to look at a federal monument could tend to be interpreted as a tad overzealous by a reasonable person.

That's not even close to being true. There are at least a dozen different roads that offer a good view of Mt. Rushmore. Some of best roadside viewing of the mountain is from the Iron Mountain Road, which is a state road that runs through Custer State Park, and is thus not effected by the federal shutdown. Of course, that road is currently impassible due to a record-shattering blizzard that plowed through the region over the weekend, so I suppose one could argue that Obama used HAARP to hammer the area with snow in order to keep people from viewing it. That seems like a bit of overkill just to stop a few people from seeing a mountain, but we all know that Obummer will go to any lengths to hurt Real Americans.

All snark aside, I do believe that the administration has been a bit over-zealous in shutting down access to public areas that do not need to be shut down. In some cases, it takes more effort to shut those areas down than it does to just let people have access. For example, they announced this week that they were barring hunters from hunting on federal wetlands. There is no reason to do that. There are no federal employees wandering around those areas. In fact, they rely almost solely on the state to enforce hunting regulations for them. The state, for their part, have announced that they will continue to check hunters for compliance on federal grounds, but will NOT enforce the shutdown or cite hunters for being on them as long as they are following all other laws. It's one area where, in my opinion, the administration is acting poorly and giving the Republicans some semi-legitimate ammunition to use against them. The Republicans shut down the government out of spite, but that doesn't mean that the Obama administration has to act like a child having a tantrum by shutting down access to federal lands just to make the shutdown hurt a little more. They had a chance to make this a complete rout, but they're needlessly giving Republicans at least a few small victories when it comes to public opinion.


You know this means you drank the tea/koolaid, right? Though sure the President is probably devoting his every waking hour to making considered decisions on how to best annoy the bagger costituency. Seems likely now that you believe it.
 
2013-10-06 08:24:10 PM  
The general derp on Facebook among the groups that enjoy riling up anti-Obama sentiment is the stuff of comic book supervillains. It amazes me no one's suggested he's replacing furloughed worked with Doombots.
 
2013-10-06 08:26:32 PM  
Happened upon this.  No citations, maybe you can ask Snopes:
tl;dr all of it, fwiw


1. Treatments for Children Suffering
From Cancer - The GOP have agreed to a compromise by funding part of the
government, including the National Institutes of Health, which offers
children with cancer last-chance experimental treatment. Obama has
threatened to veto this funding.

2. The World War II Memorial -
The WWII memorial on the DC Mall is a 24/7 open-air memorial that is
not regularly staffed. Although the White House must have known that
WWII veterans in their eighties and nineties had already booked flights
to visit this memorial, the White House still found the resources to
spitefully barricade the attraction.

The Republican National
Committee has offered to cover any costs required to keep the memorial
open. The White House refused. Moreover, like the NIH, the GOP will pass
a compromise bill that would fund America's national parks. Obama has
threatened to veto that bill.

3. Furloughed Military Chaplains
Not Allowed to Work for Free - Furloughed military chaplains willing to
celebrate Mass and baptisms for free have been told they will be
punished for doing so.

4. Business Stops In Florida Keys -
Although the GOP have agreed to compromise in the ongoing budget
stalemate and fund the parks, Obama has threatened to veto that funding.
As a result, small businesses, hunters, and commercial fisherman can't
practice their trade. While the feds have deemed the personnel necessary
to keep this area open "non-essential," the "enforcement officers" to
ensure no business is done are "essential."

5. Obama Blacks Out
Sports, Entertainment Programming to Overseas Troops - The American
Forces Network (AFN) that provides American sports and entertainment
programming to our troops stationed abroad, has been shut down. For some
reason, though, AFN News will still broadcast news, just not any of the
popular and fun stuff.

Camp David is essential, but popular programming for heroes overseas is non-essential.

6. Obama Closes D-Day Memorial - The GOP have offered to compromise and
fund the National Parks. Obama has said he will veto this compromise
legislation. As a result, along with 24 other military cemeteries, the
D-Day memorial in Normandy has been barricaded.

7. Obama Tries
to Close Privately-Funded Mt. Vernon - Although George Washington's Mt.
Vernon estate is privately funded, the feds blocked visitors from
entering the parking area because the Park Service maintains the lot.
Apparently, the New Media publicity resulted in the feds backing down.
8. Obama Closes Over 100 Privately-Managed Parks That Cost No Money to
Run - The U.S. Treasury actually makes money from the rent paid by a
private company that "employs about 400-500 camp workers and managers
across about a dozen states." No federal money is used to operate these
parks. No federal employees are used to staff these parks. Taxpayers
make a profit from these parks. Still, Obama had them closed and as a
result 400-500 employees and a private business are taking it in the
neck.

9. Obama Closes Self-Sustaining Colonial Farm It Hasn't
Supported Since 1980 - "For the first time in 40 years, the National
Park Service (NPS) has finally succeeded in closing the Farm down to the
public. In previous budget dramas, the Farm has always been exempted
since the NPS provides no staff or resources to operate the Farm."
10. Obama Tries to Close State-Run Parks in Wisconsin - "The park
service ordered state officials to close the northern unit of the Kettle
Moraine, Devil's Lake, and Interstate state parks and the state-owned
portion of the Horicon Marsh, but state authorities rebuffed the request
because the lion's share of the funding came from state, not federal
coffers."

11. Obama Closes Vietnam Memorial - The GOP have
passed compromise legislation that would fund national memorials and
parks, and open them to the public. Obama threatened a veto. Apparently,
the "essential" government employees are those erecting barricades, not
those who could keep the memorial open.

12. Obama Closes
Privately-Owned Hotel, Police Block Parking Lot - "The operator of a
51-room inn located on U.S. government-owned land in North Carolina
abandoned his defiant stance on Thursday to keep the property open
despite being ordered to close as part of the federal government
shutdown."

October is this inn's prime season. The GOP have
offered compromise funding opening the parks. Obama said he will veto
that compromise.

State troopers blocked customers from entering the inn's parking lot.
13. Park Service Ranger: 'We've Been Told to Make Life As Difficult For
People As We Can' - "It's a cheap way to deal with the situation," an
angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. "We've
been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It's
disgusting."

14. Obama Forces Residents Out of Private Homes -
"The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals.
They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because
they sit on federal land."

The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
15. Acadia Park In Maine Shut Down - '"We've been training for two
years at CrossFit for this hike - no kidding," Hart said. She added that
the shutdown should be as inconvenient for the Washington politicians
who caused it as it is for average citizens.'

The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.
16. Historic Restaurant Open During Last Shutdown Forced to Close - "An
iconic Philadelphia restaurant has been forced to close its doors and
turn away booked parties because of the government shutdown. ...


"Restaurant public relations director Molly Yun said they were notified
there was a possibility a closure might happen, but they were allowed to
remain open during the last government shutdown 17 years ago."

The restaurant is part of the federal park system, which the GOP have agreed to fund. Obama said he will veto the funding.
17. Obama Shuts Down a Road Tha Goes Through CO Park: "The Forest
Service announcement, in turn, led the Pitkin County commissioners to
order that Maroon Creek Road be shut down at the height of the colorful
leaf-changing season. Ahead of what is to be one of the busiest weekends
of the fall, the road is to be closed to vehicles at T-Lazy-7 Ranch,
pending a resolution to the government shutdown."

The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto that compromise funding.
18. Residents Plan Protest of Cape Hatteras Closing - "Businesses and
residents on the Outer Banks have planned a peaceful protest of the
closure of Hatteras Island's beaches due to the government shut down.

"The U.S. House Wednesday passed a measure to reopen national parks and monuments. It will now go to the U.S. Senate."
In the unlikely event the Democrat Senate passes the bill, Obama has
threatened a veto of any compromise legislation opening the parks.
19. Obama Blocks People From LOOKING at Mt. Rushmore - "Blocking access
to trails and programs at South Dakota's most popular attraction was
one thing, but state officials didn't expect Congress' budget stalemate
to shut down a view of Mount Rushmore.

"The National Park
Service placed cones along highway viewing areas outside Mount Rushmore
this week, barring visitors from pulling over and taking pictures of the
famed monument.

The cones first went up Oct. 1, said Dusty
Johnson, Gov. Dennis Daugaard's chief of staff. The state asked that
they be taken down, and federal officials did so with some of them. The
state was told the cones were a safety precaution to help channel cars
into viewing areas rather than to bar their entrance."

20.
Crucial USDA Websites Taken Down - "The U.S. Department of Agriculture
has turned off its entire website in response to the government
shutdown, leaving farmers, reporters and others with no way to access
any of the agency's information online. ...

"USDA's total website
shutdown goes far beyond the response of other federal agencies, and
seems to be part of an effort to make people feel the effects of the
shutdown. Thursday morning calls to USDA's press office seeking an
explanation were not answered."

This website is down and yet the ObamaCare and White House websites are up.
21. St. Louis Gateway Arch Closed - The GOP have agreed to compromise
legislation funding the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.

22.
Park Shutdown Bounces Rowers from Potomac - "The ripple effect of a
government shutdown has pushed rowers from the Potomac River.


"Multiple high schools rent space at the Thompson Boat Center in
Georgetown. But like other places controlled by the National Park
Service, it closed Tuesday morning."

The GOP have agreed to compromise funding opening the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.

23. Thompson Boat Center Closed In DC - The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.
24. Obama Closes Military Commissary - "Military members, veterans and
families who shop at local tax-free store are shocked to discover the
store's doors locked; no progress to end stalemate in Washington."
While the government has deemed the White House chefs "essential,"
working class military personnel have lost their tax-free store
privileges.

Military personnel and their families tell me that they have never lost these privileges in previous shutdowns.
25. Arizona Offers to Fund Grand Canyon, Obama Says 'Drop Dead' -
"Obama has ordered the Grand Canyon to stay closed, even after the state
of Arizona and local businesses have offered to cover the costs
necessary to keep it open. In other words, the shutdown isn't about the
money - it's about hurting the American people just because he can."
 
2013-10-06 08:26:46 PM  

skullkrusher: Atypical Person Reading Fark: skullkrusher: Lord Dimwit: dewright_ca: Considering they tried to block private property (ie Mt Vernon) its hard to doubt some of the Executive Branches pettiness

They shut down the Mount Vernon Trail, which connects Mount Vernon and Rosslyn. The MVT is owned and operated by the National Parks Service. The parking lots at Mount Vernon are also maintained by the NPS and the parking attendants are NPS employees. After people complained, the parking lots were reopened but are unattended.

So, basically you're saying that the employees of the NPS should work without pay. You're saying you're entitled to someone else's labor! Socialism!

well, since they've been promised back pay once the shutdown is resolved, it's technically pay without work.

Another myth.  Congress wasted its time passing the bill.  Senate and President say they're in favor of it  if the people go back to work since otherwise Congress just passed a paid vacation for a bunch of Federal employees.

Can many or most people really not hold more than one or two variables in their heads at a time?

that goes contrary to every article I've seen on it. In fact, when it passed Eric Cantor tweeted:

"The House will pass a bill to pay federal workers for their time in furlough once the shutdown ends. "

That says nothing about having to go back to work during the shutdown and specifically says they will be paid for their time in furlough. What variables are you talking about?


Last one. From what i've seen on this thread you have a fair grasp of the agenda and the talking points, so, on behalf of your teams masters you can consider this a pat on your pointy head. Atta boy!
That said, and Eric Cantor being every bit as good as you for the cause, the House can pass shiat, say to clone a speaker or majority whip. But beyond that for Congress to pass a law, the senate has to approve it too. And somethin involving the president. Study it out. There is nothing but opportunity for self improvement ahead of you!
 
2013-10-06 08:30:30 PM  
Lotta conecern trolling in this thread.
 
2013-10-06 08:35:13 PM  

IronTom: Happened upon this.  No citations, maybe you can ask Snopes:
tl;dr all of it, fwiw


1. Treatments for Children Suffering
From Cancer - The GOP have agreed to a compromise by funding part of the
government, including the National Institutes of Health, which offers
children with cancer last-chance experimental treatment. Obama has
threatened to veto this funding.

2. The World War II Memorial -
The WWII memorial on the DC Mall is a 24/7 open-air memorial that is
not regularly staffed. Although the White House must have known that
WWII veterans in their eighties and nineties had already booked flights
to visit this memorial, the White House still found the resources to
spitefully barricade the attraction.

The Republican National
Committee has offered to cover any costs required to keep the memorial
open. The White House refused. Moreover, like the NIH, the GOP will pass
a compromise bill that would fund America's national parks. Obama has
threatened to veto that bill.

3. Furloughed Military Chaplains
Not Allowed to Work for Free - Furloughed military chaplains willing to
celebrate Mass and baptisms for free have been told they will be
punished for doing so.

4. Business Stops In Florida Keys -
Although the GOP have agreed to compromise in the ongoing budget
stalemate and fund the parks, Obama has threatened to veto that funding.
As a result, small businesses, hunters, and commercial fisherman can't
practice their trade. While the feds have deemed the personnel necessary
to keep this area open "non-essential," the "enforcement officers" to
ensure no business is done are "essential."

5. Obama Blacks Out
Sports, Entertainment Programming to Overseas Troops - The American
Forces Network (AFN) that provides American sports and entertainment
programming to our troops stationed abroad, has been shut down. For some
reason, though, AFN News will still broadcast news, just not any of the
popular and fun stuff.

Camp David is essential, but popular programming for heroes over ...


I don't like Obama and his methods of executing his strategies and designs.  Period, end of story.  Book it. Done.....I won't be changing my mind.  He and the Democrats are as much and more to blame for this manufactured budget crises than are the Republicans. And, of course, science for the win!....
 
2013-10-06 08:50:46 PM  
The light of day.

Ye shall know them by their fruits.

heh, um
 
2013-10-06 09:08:38 PM  
www.thelmagazine.com
 
2013-10-06 09:13:36 PM  

Urmuf Hamer: Last one. From what i've seen on this thread you have a fair grasp of the agenda and the talking points, so, on behalf of your teams masters you can consider this a pat on your pointy head. Atta boy!
That said, and Eric Cantor being every bit as good as you for the cause, the House can pass shiat, say to clone a speaker or majority whip. But beyond that for Congress to pass a law, the senate has to approve it too. And somethin involving the president. Study it out. There is nothing but opportunity for self improvement ahead of you!


If we were paying Fark Lefty Tired Tropes Drinking Game (TM) I would have alcohol poisoning at the moment. Congrats on managing to leave the word "sociopath" out of your post, however.

Aside from that, it appears that I was mistaken in thinking it had already passed. It has only passed the House uncontested and is expected to easily pass the Senate and be signed into law. This is the mistake you're hanging your hat on? Congrats, you petty lil thing.
 
2013-10-06 09:22:17 PM  

Urmuf Hamer: You know this means you drank the tea/koolaid, right? Though sure the President is probably devoting his every waking hour to making considered decisions on how to best annoy the bagger costituency. Seems likely now that you believe it.


I never said anything about "the bagger constituency", nor did I say that Obama himself is going down a list and checking off what should be closed and what should not. SOMEONE within the Obama administration IS making those decisions, and they are doing so under Obama's direction. Now, it's no skin off of my ass if they close the WWII memorial, Mt. Rushmore, federal wetlands, etc. I said that I think that it's a mistake politically. I think the administration, in SOME cases, is going overboard and closing some things that do not need to be closed simply to try to prove to the average American that the shutdown is bad. Then again, this is Fark and I dared to offer criticism to the infallible Obama, so I knew that someone would freak out about it. But yeah, I'm clearly the one who has "drank the koolaid".
 
2013-10-06 09:27:29 PM  

mod3072: Urmuf Hamer: You know this means you drank the tea/koolaid, right? Though sure the President is probably devoting his every waking hour to making considered decisions on how to best annoy the bagger costituency. Seems likely now that you believe it.

I never said anything about "the bagger constituency", nor did I say that Obama himself is going down a list and checking off what should be closed and what should not. SOMEONE within the Obama administration IS making those decisions, and they are doing so under Obama's direction. Now, it's no skin off of my ass if they close the WWII memorial, Mt. Rushmore, federal wetlands, etc. I said that I think that it's a mistake politically. I think the administration, in SOME cases, is going overboard and closing some things that do not need to be closed simply to try to prove to the average American that the shutdown is bad. Then again, this is Fark and I dared to offer criticism to the infallible Obama, so I knew that someone would freak out about it. But yeah, I'm clearly the one who has "drank the koolaid".


it appears that Urmuf has recently dusted off this account to breathlessly defend the President from all attacks, real and imagined
 
2013-10-06 09:31:33 PM  

poison_amy: sendtodave: wony99: Crazy Horse is 20 minutes from Mt. Rushmore, is a much better monument, and it is private!

www.crazyhorse.org

Private is good. I like private.

Mt Rushmore should be private. Problem solved!

Private means Crazy Horse is nowhere near done, and probably never will be done.  There's been some slight progress since I was a wee girl growing up in the Black Hills, but it's far from being a "much better monument".   Sure, if it gets completed it will be incredible, but considering it's been under construction for 65 years now and we have a sort of recognizable face and a couple of holes in the rock, I'd say that's not happening in my lifetime.


Technically, they never finished Rushmore either. (The faces were apparently supposed to be more like busts.)
 
2013-10-06 09:59:18 PM  

mod3072: Eponymous: ManateeGag: shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.

shhh...the truth doesn't fit with the narrative.

RTFA....or are words too hard for you to understand and interfere with the development of your "narrative".

The artilcle included the comments from people that interpreted the cones as blocking them from being able to park on Rt 244 where it overlooks the monument.   It's the only real place you can stop and get a good look at or take photos of the monument from a public road.   So, the feds throwing up "barrycades" to block people from parking on the shoulder of a state roadway to look at a federal monument could tend to be interpreted as a tad overzealous by a reasonable person.

That's not even close to being true. There are at least a dozen different roads that offer a good view of Mt. Rushmore. Some of best roadside viewing of the mountain is from the Iron Mountain Road, which is a state road that runs through Custer State Park, and is thus not effected by the federal shutdown. Of course, that road is currently impassible due to a record-shattering blizzard that plowed through the region over the weekend, so I suppose one could argue that Obama used HAARP to hammer the area with snow in order to keep people from viewing it. That seems like a bit of overkill just to stop a few people from seeing a mountain, but we all know that Obummer will go to any lengths to hurt Real Americans.

All snark aside, I do believe that the administration has been a bit over-zealous in shutting down access to public areas that do not need to be shut down. In some cases, it takes more effort to shut those areas down than it does to just let people have access. For example, they announced this week that they were barring hunters from hunting on federal wetlands. There is no reason to do that. There are no fed ...


Actually, in all likelihood, the federal agents who would investigate all crimes/poaching on their land are likely furloughed as well.  There'd also be a few paralegals who would process that information out as well.  This means that they may not have the money/manpower to prosecute any crimes that COULD potentially occur.
 
2013-10-06 10:09:41 PM  

vpb: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I heard that Obama was going to use his contrails to blot out the sun to force people to give in to his demands.


Yeah, but he is gonna do it at night, so we are ok.

/Am I doing it right?
/I hope so
/Triple slashie
/Quadruple slashie
 
2013-10-06 10:29:56 PM  

Lord Dimwit: According to that, the federal government put those there to stop people from stopping *on the side of the road* to view Mount Rushmore, to encourage them to use the actual viewing areas where you pull off. So that, you know, you don't have a bunch of cars on the side of the road blocking the breakdown lane and slowing down traffic. None of the actual viewing areas were closed.


You can see in the picture that the cones go around the corner, blocking off access to the parking area.
On Google Maps, it looks to me like that picture is showing the ONLY place where you can pull off the highway, other than the parking lots at the monument site. It is SSW of the monument, and Mount Rushmore is that formation which is kind of on the left. You can't actually see the faces from here; maybe there is a trail.
 
2013-10-06 10:36:50 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2013-10-06 10:47:49 PM  

clancifer: SauronWasFramed: Given that the admin has kicked people out of their vacation homes, blocked the road to hotels and shut off the valve to old faithful, it is only because there isn't a feasible way to accomplish this that they aren't  doing this.

Tea Party bullshiat detected.


Idiot detected.
 
2013-10-06 10:50:00 PM  

IronTom: TuteTibiImperes: It's a different world today

Bullshiat.  That is a Leftist wet dream.  It is still America no matter how many MSM freaks tell yo otherwise.


Ehhhhhhhhhhh I'd like to believe that, but as far as I can tell the scales have tipped from "civic responsibility" to... "who will give me the most free candy?"

We've realized we can "vote ourselves largess."  The clock is ticking.
 
2013-10-06 10:50:52 PM  

iheartscotch: jaytkay: iheartscotch: Do you mean Stone Mountain? It's owned and operated by the state of Georgia, last I knew.

/ So, you can see Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and Jefferson Davis all day; but not, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt

The USA is closed.

But you can watch the enemies of the USA all day.

Enemies?

Jefferson Davis, maybe.

Stonewall Jackson, I don't really know enough about him to say one way or the other.

Robert E. Lee was never the enemy of the United States. He faithfully served in the US army, until Virginia succeeded. His quarrel was never with the United States; he was just defending his home. The Lees were just about the first family of Virginia. The song in the musical 1776 isn't just catchy; it was true. He was never involved with the south, because of slavery; he was involved with the south, because Virginia was involved with the south. A lot of people wanted to make Robert E. Lee suffer after the civil war. And he did; his sons were killed in the fighting; all of his land was taken to form Arlington. If I remember right; he died penny less.



None of his sons was killed in the Civil War. Arlington was not all of the Lees' land (and the family was later compensated for it). He died as president of Washington College (now Washington and Lee University). And, along with everyone else who fought for or aided the Confederacy, he was granted an absolute pardon by Andrew Johnson.

And he more than likely wouldn't have appreciated being the subject of a hagiography.
 
2013-10-06 10:56:13 PM  

ravenlore: Only read about half the thread, but the shutdown doesn't farking MATTER with regard to Rushmore. Nobody can get there because the Hills just got two feet of snow. SDDOT just opened 90 west of Murdo this morning.


Clearly Obama used his magical weather machine!
 
2013-10-06 11:08:40 PM  

GORDON: We've realized we can "vote ourselves largess."


Are you speaking for the defense contractors?
 
2013-10-06 11:12:14 PM  

trappedspirit: I heard they filled in the grand canyon.


No, that's bullshiat. There's no money for that. They just put a big blue tarp over the whole thing.
It has a huge American flag on it, though, so I guess some people might like to see that.
 
2013-10-06 11:18:51 PM  

udhq: I love these stories so much.

The right goes on and on about how insignificant the federal government isto their lives, and then they're the first ones to absolutely lose their shiat once they realize it may interfere with their weekend plans.

You guys want to talk about going Gault when you couldn't even handle 4 days without 17% of the federal government!


Because we need the Government to hold our hands to go look at a waterfall or some giant trees.  This is what pants-wetting Liberals actually believe. The sane world would prefer to be left alone to our own devices, thanks.
 
2013-10-06 11:30:47 PM  

IronTom: vpb: IronTom: Weak excuse for barring Americans from Americana.  Oh there are some lefty plants that painted some crap on a monument hence providing a cover narrative to support  no longer letting you see the real America, let's wrap them with a picture of Miley Cyrus and armed swat teams so you can't get inspired by the exceptional America, and maybe you'll forget about it.

I heard that Obama stole the statue of Liberty to sell the copper for scrap.

On a more serious note, what is the probability that there is any gold left in Fort Knox?


There doesn't need to be any gold in Fort Knox.  We haven't been on the gold standard since 1971.  Nixon Shock/Fiat Money
 
2013-10-06 11:38:16 PM  

iheartscotch: jaytkay: iheartscotch: Do you mean Stone Mountain? It's owned and operated by the state of Georgia, last I knew.

/ So, you can see Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and Jefferson Davis all day; but not, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt

The USA is closed.

But you can watch the enemies of the USA all day.

Enemies?

Jefferson Davis, maybe.

Stonewall Jackson, I don't really know enough about him to say one way or the other.

Robert E. Lee was never the enemy of the United States. He faithfully served in the US army, until Virginia succeeded. His quarrel was never with the United States; he was just defending his home. The Lees were just about the first family of Virginia. The song in the musical 1776 isn't just catchy; it was true. He was never involved with the south, because of slavery; he was involved with the south, because Virginia was involved with the south. A lot of people wanted to make Robert E. Lee suffer after the civil war. And he did; his sons were killed in the fighting; all of his land was taken to form Arlington. If I remember right; he died penny less.

/ I know I'm going to get flamed for this; but, you can't help but to respect a man who stood off bigger, better supplied armies with men who might have never received any formal military training.


They took up arms against the US. They should have been hung and left up as a warning to the others. Considering the shiat you people put the country through since then, any continuing rebellion would have been totally worth it. More dead Rebs are a good thing. Did your greatgrandpappy fight in the war? I hope he died in it. If not, I hope it broke him as a human.
 
2013-10-07 01:18:06 AM  
DOI: "...and what if closing the grounds creates a massive traffic jam on that two-lane highway?"

Obama: "I dunno... put up cones or something."

DOI: "...and what if they move the cones?"

Obama: "Then they move the cones. Chances are they're too lazy and will want to do the right thing anyway, so they'll have the common sense not to cause gridlock, but then again, I thought the same thing about the House."

DOI: "ROFLMAOLOL!!!!!2111!one. BURRRRNNNN"
 
2013-10-07 01:45:35 AM  
I don't know the motives behind any possible shutdowns.  I guess it is just politics.  Maybe the fact that there is plenty of blame to go around means that our government is working, I don't know.  Sorry for getting concerned over this, most of this stuff is probably not true, but just meant to stir up animosity.  It'll blow over and things will go back to normal. Probably should watch MTV instead of the news.
 
2013-10-07 03:34:26 AM  

common sense is an oxymoron: iheartscotch: jaytkay: iheartscotch: Do you mean Stone Mountain? It's owned and operated by the state of Georgia, last I knew.

/ So, you can see Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and Jefferson Davis all day; but not, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt

The USA is closed.

But you can watch the enemies of the USA all day.

Enemies?

Jefferson Davis, maybe.

Stonewall Jackson, I don't really know enough about him to say one way or the other.

Robert E. Lee was never the enemy of the United States. He faithfully served in the US army, until Virginia succeeded. His quarrel was never with the United States; he was just defending his home. The Lees were just about the first family of Virginia. The song in the musical 1776 isn't just catchy; it was true. He was never involved with the south, because of slavery; he was involved with the south, because Virginia was involved with the south. A lot of people wanted to make Robert E. Lee suffer after the civil war. And he did; his sons were killed in the fighting; all of his land was taken to form Arlington. If I remember right; he died penny less.


None of his sons was killed in the Civil War. Arlington was not all of the Lees' land (and the family was later compensated for it). He died as president of Washington College (now Washington and Lee University). And, along with everyone else who fought for or aided the Confederacy, he was granted an absolute pardon by Andrew Johnson.

And he more than likely wouldn't have appreciated being the subject of a hagiography.


I apologise; after looking it up; I agree, Lee's sons survived the war. I must have been reading something else.

I know that a great majority of his holdings were taken; I will admit, I don't know if he was actually penny less. I do know he lived very fugally in the time after the civil war.

I know; Lee was pardon by a southern patriot; who happened to replace Abe Lincoln
 
2013-10-07 03:35:06 AM  
say what you want about Obama but he has done NOTHING to stop the NSA and CIA from calling its employees "spooks".
 
2013-10-07 03:37:22 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: iheartscotch: jaytkay: iheartscotch: Do you mean Stone Mountain? It's owned and operated by the state of Georgia, last I knew.

/ So, you can see Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and Jefferson Davis all day; but not, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt

The USA is closed.

But you can watch the enemies of the USA all day.

Enemies?

Jefferson Davis, maybe.

Stonewall Jackson, I don't really know enough about him to say one way or the other.

Robert E. Lee was never the enemy of the United States. He faithfully served in the US army, until Virginia succeeded. His quarrel was never with the United States; he was just defending his home. The Lees were just about the first family of Virginia. The song in the musical 1776 isn't just catchy; it was true. He was never involved with the south, because of slavery; he was involved with the south, because Virginia was involved with the south. A lot of people wanted to make Robert E. Lee suffer after the civil war. And he did; his sons were killed in the fighting; all of his land was taken to form Arlington. If I remember right; he died penny less.

/ I know I'm going to get flamed for this; but, you can't help but to respect a man who stood off bigger, better supplied armies with men who might have never received any formal military training.

They took up arms against the US. They should have been hung and left up as a warning to the others. Considering the shiat you people put the country through since then, any continuing rebellion would have been totally worth it. More dead Rebs are a good thing. Did your greatgrandpappy fight in the war? I hope he died in it. If not, I hope it broke him as a human.


I see.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

/ traitor; or founding father is all a matter of point of view
 
2013-10-07 08:37:04 AM  

iheartscotch: I see.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

/ traitor; or founding father is all a matter of point of view


You lost, get over it.
 
2013-10-07 09:59:23 AM  

vpb: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I heard that Obama was going to use his contrails to blot out the sun to force people to give in to his demands.


cdn.teenhollywood.com

"Then we will derp in the shade."
 
2013-10-07 11:40:44 AM  

SkinnyHead: Kyosuke: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

Who did?

It says in the article that the National Park Service put up those cones on the road.
cmsimg.argusleader.com

 
2013-10-07 11:49:59 AM  
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-06 12:00:12 PM


FlashHarry: clancifer: SauronWasFramed: Given that the admin has kicked people out of their vacation homes, blocked the road to hotels and shut off the valve to old faithful, it is only because there isn't a feasible way to accomplish this that they aren't doing this.

Tea Party bullshiat detected.

*psst* i think the "valve to old faithful" thing might be a clue that he's joking.

I suspect that there are teatards who would believe that.

Would be affective snark if your reply wasn't due to a lib-tard actually believing it.
 
2013-10-07 11:53:46 AM  
IronTom: TuteTibiImperes: It's a different world today


Because tur-ism.

If bush was doing this you moon-bats would be doing 10x this.
 
2013-10-07 11:55:50 AM  

TuteTibiImperes

The National Parks were closed in the 1996 shutdown as well. This isn't some plot, this is the natural result of what happens when the government shuts down.

Half truth. The open air monuments, pull offs and private owned/operated sites were not closed down. Even the NPS has admitted this.

zero is just showing what a petulant little child he is.
 
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