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2013-10-06 05:05:35 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Oh, it gets worse.  Friday night I was driving to a gun show here in NC and my car stalled out and stopped working on the way there.  I called triple K, and they came out and told me that I ran out of gas, that I just needed to fill my tank up.  I don't understand this.  I filled that tank up when I bought the car.  Why is Obama forcing me to fill it up again, all of a sudden, now that I wanted to buy a gun?


/>


farking awesome!
 
2013-10-06 05:06:16 PM  

SauronWasFramed: shut off the valve to old faithful


images1.wikia.nocookie.net

lh3.ggpht.com
 
2013-10-06 05:07:08 PM  

wony99: Crazy Horse is 20 minutes from Mt. Rushmore, is a much better monument, and it is private!

www.crazyhorse.org


Private is good. I like private.

Mt Rushmore should be private. Problem solved!
 
2013-10-06 05:09:44 PM  

sendtodave: What are we paying these doofs for? I say we shut them down, too, until they can actually do their jobs instead of spending my money.


K. We pay the most important ones. But because we're still in the shutdown, there's little to no money coming in. So after that, we aren't able to pay ANY bills. Which means we default on almost everything. Which is bad.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?
 
2013-10-06 05:12:32 PM  

dewright_ca: Locations like the National Mall being fenced cost more than having it open


[citation needed]
 
2013-10-06 05:12:40 PM  
I heard they filled in the grand canyon.
 
2013-10-06 05:12:58 PM  

grumpfuff: sendtodave: What are we paying these doofs for? I say we shut them down, too, until they can actually do their jobs instead of spending my money.

K. We pay the most important ones. But because we're still in the shutdown, there's little to no money coming in. So after that, we aren't able to pay ANY bills. Which means we default on almost everything. Which is bad.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?


Because I'm willfully obtuse.
 
2013-10-06 05:13:19 PM  
The fact that Snopes even had to address this is depressing.
 
2013-10-06 05:14:42 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The National Parks were closed in the 1996 shutdown as well.  This isn't some plot, this is the natural result of what happens when the government shuts down.


There's nothing natural about it. Until 1980 government just went about its business as usual until a budget agreement was reached. This idiocy is self-imposed.
 
2013-10-06 05:15:29 PM  

sendtodave: grumpfuff: sendtodave: What are we paying these doofs for? I say we shut them down, too, until they can actually do their jobs instead of spending my money.

K. We pay the most important ones. But because we're still in the shutdown, there's little to no money coming in. So after that, we aren't able to pay ANY bills. Which means we default on almost everything. Which is bad.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Because I'm willfully obtuse.


Yea, I was starting to suspect you were Poe's Law in action, especially after your call to privatize Mount Rushmore.

/grumblegrumbletinyfistshakegrumblegrumble
 
2013-10-06 05:16:49 PM  
The cones have been there and gone a couple of times.  Right now they are gone because of the snow situation.  They aren't blocking the road that goes past viewing areas, just blocking the pullouts where people could stop and take pictures.  The state asked them to be taken down and NPS did remove some of them.
 
2013-10-06 05:16:51 PM  

Eponymous: ManateeGag: shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.

shhh...the truth doesn't fit with the narrative.

RTFA....or are words too hard for you to understand and interfere with the development of your "narrative".

The artilcle included the comments from people that interpreted the cones as blocking them from being able to park on Rt 244 where it overlooks the monument.   It's the only real place you can stop and get a good look at or take photos of the monument from a public road.   So, the feds throwing up "barrycades" to block people from parking on the shoulder of a state roadway to look at a federal monument could tend to be interpreted as a tad overzealous by a reasonable person.


That's not even close to being true. There are at least a dozen different roads that offer a good view of Mt. Rushmore. Some of best roadside viewing of the mountain is from the Iron Mountain Road, which is a state road that runs through Custer State Park, and is thus not effected by the federal shutdown. Of course, that road is currently impassible due to a record-shattering blizzard that plowed through the region over the weekend, so I suppose one could argue that Obama used HAARP to hammer the area with snow in order to keep people from viewing it. That seems like a bit of overkill just to stop a few people from seeing a mountain, but we all know that Obummer will go to any lengths to hurt Real Americans.

All snark aside, I do believe that the administration has been a bit over-zealous in shutting down access to public areas that do not need to be shut down. In some cases, it takes more effort to shut those areas down than it does to just let people have access. For example, they announced this week that they were barring hunters from hunting on federal wetlands. There is no reason to do that. There are no federal employees wandering around those areas. In fact, they rely almost solely on the state to enforce hunting regulations for them. The state, for their part, have announced that they will continue to check hunters for compliance on federal grounds, but will NOT enforce the shutdown or cite hunters for being on them as long as they are following all other laws. It's one area where, in my opinion, the administration is acting poorly and giving the Republicans some semi-legitimate ammunition to use against them. The Republicans shut down the government out of spite, but that doesn't mean that the Obama administration has to act like a child having a tantrum by shutting down access to federal lands just to make the shutdown hurt a little more. They had a chance to make this a complete rout, but they're needlessly giving Republicans at least a few small victories when it comes to public opinion.
 
2013-10-06 05:19:10 PM  

grumpfuff: sendtodave: grumpfuff: sendtodave: What are we paying these doofs for? I say we shut them down, too, until they can actually do their jobs instead of spending my money.

K. We pay the most important ones. But because we're still in the shutdown, there's little to no money coming in. So after that, we aren't able to pay ANY bills. Which means we default on almost everything. Which is bad.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Because I'm willfully obtuse.

Yea, I was starting to suspect you were Poe's Law in action, especially after your call to privatize Mount Rushmore.

/grumblegrumbletinyfistshakegrumblegrumble


They shouldn't be privatized. The States should take their land back.
 
2013-10-06 05:19:36 PM  

iheartscotch: Do you mean Stone Mountain? It's owned and operated by the state of Georgia, last I knew.

/ So, you can see Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and Jefferson Davis all day; but not, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt


The USA is closed.

But you can watch the enemies of the USA all day.
 
2013-10-06 05:19:42 PM  

skullkrusher: Peter von Nostrand: skullkrusher: Eponymous: ManateeGag: shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.

shhh...the truth doesn't fit with the narrative.

RTFA....or are words too hard for you to understand and interfere with the development of your "narrative".

The artilcle included the comments from people that interpreted the cones as blocking them from being able to park on Rt 244 where it overlooks the monument.   It's the only real place you can stop and get a good look at or take photos of the monument from a public road.   So, the feds throwing up "barrycades" to block people from parking on the shoulder of a state roadway to look at a federal monument could tend to be interpreted as a tad overzealous by a reasonable person.

oh please. It was just a concern for the safety of motorists that the park service suddenly could no longer ignore on October 1.

Maybe it started on the first because the park is shut down so they didn't want people parking on the road and blocking traffic. Which isn't remotely unreasonable or nefarious. To a normal person

Or maybe it's all a conspiracy

or maybe it is the government making sure the as many people feel the impact of the shutdown as possible so as to provide public pressure to resolve it more quickly. This doesn't seem unreasonable either. And actually seems likely.


I guess you're going with big conspiracy. Have you all linked soros to this yet?
 
2013-10-06 05:20:44 PM  

sendtodave: wony99: Crazy Horse is 20 minutes from Mt. Rushmore, is a much better monument, and it is private!

www.crazyhorse.org

Private is good. I like private.

Mt Rushmore should be private. Problem solved!


Private means Crazy Horse is nowhere near done, and probably never will be done.  There's been some slight progress since I was a wee girl growing up in the Black Hills, but it's far from being a "much better monument".   Sure, if it gets completed it will be incredible, but considering it's been under construction for 65 years now and we have a sort of recognizable face and a couple of holes in the rock, I'd say that's not happening in my lifetime.
 
2013-10-06 05:24:36 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: skullkrusher: Peter von Nostrand: skullkrusher: Eponymous: ManateeGag: shanrick: SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.

I just drove past there. There are no cones.

shhh...the truth doesn't fit with the narrative.

RTFA....or are words too hard for you to understand and interfere with the development of your "narrative".

The artilcle included the comments from people that interpreted the cones as blocking them from being able to park on Rt 244 where it overlooks the monument.   It's the only real place you can stop and get a good look at or take photos of the monument from a public road.   So, the feds throwing up "barrycades" to block people from parking on the shoulder of a state roadway to look at a federal monument could tend to be interpreted as a tad overzealous by a reasonable person.

oh please. It was just a concern for the safety of motorists that the park service suddenly could no longer ignore on October 1.

Maybe it started on the first because the park is shut down so they didn't want people parking on the road and blocking traffic. Which isn't remotely unreasonable or nefarious. To a normal person

Or maybe it's all a conspiracy

or maybe it is the government making sure the as many people feel the impact of the shutdown as possible so as to provide public pressure to resolve it more quickly. This doesn't seem unreasonable either. And actually seems likely.

I guess you're going with big conspiracy. Have you all linked soros to this yet?


no, what does he have to do with it? The government has blocked access to federal properties that it didn't have to block as a result of the government shutdown yet this one example is just too hard to believe. Weird. Keep calling it a conspiracy though. Doesn't make you appear the ninny
 
2013-10-06 05:25:02 PM  
Obama put a fence around Gettysburg. Nobody gets in nobody gets out. People inside are texting that they need water and food.

christo.vaesite.net

/ And this is repeated by The Blaze or Hot Air in 5, 4, 3, 2...
 
2013-10-06 05:26:57 PM  

skullkrusher: The government has blocked access to federal properties that it didn't have to block as a result of the government shutdown


Wait, you mean a shutdown involved, you know, shutting things down!

NO WAY!!!
 
2013-10-06 05:29:08 PM  

jaytkay: skullkrusher: The government has blocked access to federal properties that it didn't have to block as a result of the government shutdown

Wait, you mean a shutdown involved, you know, shutting things down!

NO WAY!!!


no, shutdown is a result of the fact that there's no funding. Spending MORE to shut things down than you would have just doing nothing isn't really the point, now is it?
 
2013-10-06 05:30:04 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: I guess you're going with big conspiracy. Have you all linked soros to this yet?


Who do you think owns the big sheet the helicopters are carrying?
 
2013-10-06 05:30:49 PM  
sendtodave: wony99: Crazy Horse is 20 minutes from Mt. Rushmore, is a much better monument, and it is private!

www.crazyhorse.org

Private is good. I like private.

Mt Rushmore should be private. Problem solved!


The park service would still close it even though they don't own it, like Mount Vernon.
 
2013-10-06 05:35:35 PM  

grumpfuff: sendtodave: grumpfuff: sendtodave: What are we paying these doofs for? I say we shut them down, too, until they can actually do their jobs instead of spending my money.

K. We pay the most important ones. But because we're still in the shutdown, there's little to no money coming in. So after that, we aren't able to pay ANY bills. Which means we default on almost everything. Which is bad.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Because I'm willfully obtuse.

Yea, I was starting to suspect you were Poe's Law in action, especially after your call to privatize Mount Rushmore.

/grumblegrumbletinyfistshakegrumblegrumble


Being a crank is fun!

And cranks keep getting what they want, so there's that!
 
2013-10-06 05:36:52 PM  

Oldiron_79: sendtodave: wony99: Crazy Horse is 20 minutes from Mt. Rushmore, is a much better monument, and it is private!

www.crazyhorse.org

Private is good. I like private.

Mt Rushmore should be private. Problem solved!

The park service would still close it even though they don't own it, like Mount Vernon.


Not if there's no more park service!

*WINK*
 
2013-10-06 05:37:58 PM  

Abox: Tatterdemalian: Really? Snopes has proof that all those pictures of traffic barricades blocking off every single overlook within a 100 mile radius of Mt. Rushmore are all fake?

(one click and a bazillion attempted popups later)

Oh for fark's sake.

[pbs.twimg.com image 640x480]

THIS is how the Feds block access to Mt. Rushmore. And they only resorted to cones because they didn't have enough full barricades to control access to 1000 miles of road.


I don't care if it's true or not, I hate Obama for it.


The fact that snopes would rather address only an obvious Photoshop fake instead of realistic pictures of scenic views blocked off with traffic cones speaks volumes.

/maybe they are fake too
//don't hold your breath waiting for snopes to confirm or deny it
 
2013-10-06 05:39:36 PM  

sendtodave: Being a crank is fun!

And cranks keep getting what they want, so there's that!


Meh. This whole shutdown nonsense has me crankier than usual.

And FWIW, my name has nothing about being grumpy. It's an inside joke with some friends.
 
2013-10-06 05:40:51 PM  

iheartscotch: ...
/ So, you can see Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and Jefferson Davis all day; but not, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt


Just open your wallet.
Washington's on the $1 bill.
TJ's on the $2.
Lincoln's on the $5.
And TR's on the $7.
 
2013-10-06 05:41:51 PM  
i915.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-06 05:45:55 PM  

Tatterdemalian: The fact that snopes would rather address only an obvious Photoshop fake instead of realistic pictures of scenic views blocked off with traffic cones speaks volumes.

/maybe they are fake too
//don't hold your breath waiting for snopes to confirm or deny it


Not real good with the whole reading comprehension thing are we?

FTF Snopes article
One of the sites affected by the government shutdown is the famous Mount Rushmore National Memorial in the Black Hills of South Dakota, which features the likenesses of four U.S. presidents carved into the granite face of Mount Rushmore. That site was the subject of some controversy because  as with other national parks not only were its visitor center, viewing areas, and trails closed with the onset of the government shutdown (thereby preventing tourists from accessing some of the best vantage points for viewing the sculpture), but the National Park Service initially placed cones along a nearby highway that prevented motorists from stopping and snapping photos of the monument at roadside viewing areas: The National Park Service placed cones along highway viewing areas outside Mount Rushmore, barring visitors from pulling over and taking pictures of the famed monument.  The cones first went up Oct. 1, said Dusty Johnson, Gov. DennisDaugaard's chief of staff. The state asked that they be taken down, and federal officials did so with some of them. The state was told the cones were a safety precaution to help channel cars into viewing areas rather than to bar their entrance.  "I think reasonable people can disagree about that," Johnson said.
 
2013-10-06 05:47:57 PM  
I have no way to verify if any Federal land or monuments are closed since the closest thing to Central Illinois is over 250 miles away in the Shawnee National Forrest. They can close it all down and only 8 peopke that work at the Ag Lab and maybe 2 others at the water place will care in my vicinity. Do your worst.
 
2013-10-06 05:49:44 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Abox: Tatterdemalian: Really? Snopes has proof that all those pictures of traffic barricades blocking off every single overlook within a 100 mile radius of Mt. Rushmore are all fake?

(one click and a bazillion attempted popups later)

Oh for fark's sake.

[pbs.twimg.com image 640x480]

THIS is how the Feds block access to Mt. Rushmore. And they only resorted to cones because they didn't have enough full barricades to control access to 1000 miles of road.


I don't care if it's true or not, I hate Obama for it.

The fact that snopes would rather address only an obvious Photoshop fake instead of realistic pictures of scenic views blocked off with traffic cones speaks volumes.

/maybe they are fake too
//don't hold your breath waiting for snopes to confirm or deny it


they addressed it
 
2013-10-06 05:55:50 PM  

grumpfuff: sendtodave: Being a crank is fun!

And cranks keep getting what they want, so there's that!

Meh. This whole shutdown nonsense has me crankier than usual.

And FWIW, my name has nothing about being grumpy. It's an inside joke with some friends.


I mean crank as in the letters to the editor, Abe Simson, tea party type.
 
2013-10-06 05:56:20 PM  

skullkrusher: Lord Dimwit: dewright_ca: Considering they tried to block private property (ie Mt Vernon) its hard to doubt some of the Executive Branches pettiness

They shut down the Mount Vernon Trail, which connects Mount Vernon and Rosslyn. The MVT is owned and operated by the National Parks Service. The parking lots at Mount Vernon are also maintained by the NPS and the parking attendants are NPS employees. After people complained, the parking lots were reopened but are unattended.

So, basically you're saying that the employees of the NPS should work without pay. You're saying you're entitled to someone else's labor! Socialism!

well, since they've been promised back pay once the shutdown is resolved, it's technically pay without work.


Another myth.  Congress wasted its time passing the bill.  Senate and President say they're in favor of it  if the people go back to work since otherwise Congress just passed a paid vacation for a bunch of Federal employees.

Can many or most people really not hold more than one or two variables in their heads at a time?
 
2013-10-06 06:01:50 PM  

Atypical Person Reading Fark: skullkrusher: Lord Dimwit: dewright_ca: Considering they tried to block private property (ie Mt Vernon) its hard to doubt some of the Executive Branches pettiness

They shut down the Mount Vernon Trail, which connects Mount Vernon and Rosslyn. The MVT is owned and operated by the National Parks Service. The parking lots at Mount Vernon are also maintained by the NPS and the parking attendants are NPS employees. After people complained, the parking lots were reopened but are unattended.

So, basically you're saying that the employees of the NPS should work without pay. You're saying you're entitled to someone else's labor! Socialism!

well, since they've been promised back pay once the shutdown is resolved, it's technically pay without work.

Another myth.  Congress wasted its time passing the bill.  Senate and President say they're in favor of it  if the people go back to work since otherwise Congress just passed a paid vacation for a bunch of Federal employees.

Can many or most people really not hold more than one or two variables in their heads at a time?


that goes contrary to every article I've seen on it. In fact, when it passed Eric Cantor tweeted:

"The House will pass a bill to pay federal workers for their time in furlough once the shutdown ends. "

That says nothing about having to go back to work during the shutdown and specifically says they will be paid for their time in furlough. What variables are you talking about?
 
2013-10-06 06:02:17 PM  
SkinnyHead

Derp

Shut up, idiot.
 
2013-10-06 06:04:05 PM  

Anyone with any sense would know that this story was BS, because NO ONE messes with Team America!



i466.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-06 06:06:34 PM  
Laugh all you want libtards, but wait until you hear that Farbongo has shut down THE OCEAN!1!!!!!!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/Feds-Try-to-Close -t he-OCEAN-Because-of-Shutdown
 
2013-10-06 06:15:34 PM  
i254.photobucket.com
Seems legit.
 
2013-10-06 06:18:18 PM  
Don't worry, you can still see the back side.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-06 06:23:31 PM  

IronTom: TuteTibiImperes: It's a different world today

Bullshiat.  That is a Leftist wet dream.  It is still America no matter how many MSM freaks tell yo otherwise.


It's a leftist wet dream to prevent citizens from seeing monuments to past leaders of their government?
 
gja
2013-10-06 06:26:55 PM  
Really? Would anyone actually believe such inane tripe?
 
2013-10-06 06:32:31 PM  

mod3072:  There are at least a dozen different roads that offer a good view of Mt. Rushmore.


I've always loved coming in from the west.  That view when you can only see Washington in profile is great.  Sometimes if I haven't been there in a couple years I forget how big it really is until I see that face.  Love it!
 
2013-10-06 06:41:12 PM  

FlashHarry: ok, normally i'd say that anyone who actually believes or forwards this should seriously kill themselves before they breed. but sadly most are probably in their 70s, so that ship has sailed.


A fair number of younger conservatives fall for this shiat too. Then they want you to believe it's worth your time to listen to their carefully thought out political views.
 
2013-10-06 06:44:31 PM  

SkinnyHead: The photo is a joke, but the story is true.  The feds put up cones on the road to prevent people from stopping and viewing Mr. Rushmore.


No one pays for Rushmore, no one sees Rushmore!  Why do you hate the free market?
 
2013-10-06 06:46:32 PM  
They should have put Groucho Marx Masks on the four presidents.  Actually, Rock Creek Park, which is a federal park, is open except for maybe some closed parking lots.  Although, the water fountains are turned off and the restrooms locked.  But, if you really have to go, you can always go to the Capitol or White House and crap.  There's already of ton of crap in both those buildings as it is.  No one will notice.
 
2013-10-06 06:47:09 PM  
If they can't have statues of marx or mao, at least they can stop us from seeing our heroes.
 
2013-10-06 06:47:21 PM  

DubyaHater: CSB......
Yesterday my GF and I drove down to Mabry Mill in Meadows of Dan, VA. Upon arrival, there was a sign up that said "Closed until further notice due to government shutdown". Several people were there and all said the same thing....."Thanks again Obama".
I know everyone wants to think the republicans will suffer for this shutdown, but they won't. There are plenty of people who blame Obama for this. There won't be a major political shift towards democrats because of this shutdown.


I was in Meadows of Dan this weekend. I stopped by Nancy's Candy. Talk about a cult of personality.
 
2013-10-06 06:58:03 PM  

jaytkay: iheartscotch: Do you mean Stone Mountain? It's owned and operated by the state of Georgia, last I knew.

/ So, you can see Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and Jefferson Davis all day; but not, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt

The USA is closed.

But you can watch the enemies of the USA all day.


Enemies?

Jefferson Davis, maybe.

Stonewall Jackson, I don't really know enough about him to say one way or the other.

Robert E. Lee was never the enemy of the United States. He faithfully served in the US army, until Virginia succeeded. His quarrel was never with the United States; he was just defending his home. The Lees were just about the first family of Virginia. The song in the musical 1776 isn't just catchy; it was true. He was never involved with the south, because of slavery; he was involved with the south, because Virginia was involved with the south. A lot of people wanted to make Robert E. Lee suffer after the civil war. And he did; his sons were killed in the fighting; all of his land was taken to form Arlington. If I remember right; he died penny less.

/ I know I'm going to get flamed for this; but, you can't help but to respect a man who stood off bigger, better supplied armies with men who might have never received any formal military training.
 
2013-10-06 06:59:53 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The National Parks were closed in the 1996 shutdown as well.  This isn't some plot, this is the natural result of what happens when the government shuts down.


There wasn't a darky mooslim in office then though.
 
2013-10-06 07:06:38 PM  

iheartscotch: Robert E. Lee was never the enemy of the United States.


lol
 
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