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(USA Today)   Healthcare.gov works great if you take away all those damn people wanting to sign up for it, says the Chief Technology Officer in charge of the site."These bugs were functions of volume,'' Park said. "Take away the volume and it works.''   (usatoday.com) divider line 220
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2013-10-06 11:57:26 AM
You'll get over it whinemitter
 
2013-10-06 12:05:49 PM
Because of this Obamacare is clearly a complete failure and should be immediately repealed.
 
2013-10-06 12:09:35 PM
I spent 3 days trying to create an account and was finally able to do so. Two days later, I still haven't been able to log in.

The Obamacare defenders dismiss the failures of the website forgetting :

We have to buy insurance by 12/15 or else. Else what? Whatif you don't pay the fine?

The government compared the failure to apples I phone. We aren't required to buy an iPhone

The insurance isn't affordable or free. If. However, I could log in, I would find out if the subsidy calculator estimate of $19000 with a $12000 out of pocket is accurate or not.
 
2013-10-06 12:18:16 PM
People fail to understand the difficulty involved with providing enough server capacity for something like that.  Especially considering that within a week or two, you won't need half or more of the capacity that you would've liked to have had at launch.  So, although it looks kind of bad at start, just like with GTA Online, traffic will eventually level out, and things will be "normal".
 
2013-10-06 12:21:14 PM

ekdikeo4: People fail to understand the difficulty involved with providing enough server capacity for something like that.  Especially considering that within a week or two, you won't need half or more of the capacity that you would've liked to have had at launch.  So, although it looks kind of bad at start, just like with GTA Online, traffic will eventually level out, and things will be "normal".


Nonsense.  We need to scrap the whole thing and start over.  Preferably with a solution that involves poorhouses and debtor's prison.  Because soshulism.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-06 12:28:04 PM

SauronWasFramed: We have to buy insurance by 12/15 or else. Else what? Whatif you don't pay the fine?



12/15 is like, tomorrow.  You are so screwed.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-06 12:33:12 PM

PainInTheASP: Nonsense.  We need to scrap the whole thing and start over.  Preferably with a solution that involves poorhouses and debtor's prison.  Because soshulism.


So, stealing the tax money to pay for these free houses and prison for the poor from the job creators is what you want?

That sounds like facislamic socialism.
 
2013-10-06 12:33:23 PM
My 1983 Toyota works fine, too, as long as MP one tries to start it.
 
2013-10-06 12:36:33 PM

ekdikeo4: People fail to understand the difficulty involved with providing enough server capacity for something like that.  Especially considering that within a week or two, you won't need half or more of the capacity that you would've liked to have had at launch.  So, although it looks kind of bad at start, just like with GTA Online, traffic will eventually level out, and things will be "normal".


As much as I chuckle about 'the cloud' and SaaS, this is exactly the sort of problems those concepts are designed to overcome.
 
2013-10-06 12:43:06 PM

vpb: PainInTheASP: Nonsense.  We need to scrap the whole thing and start over.  Preferably with a solution that involves poorhouses and debtor's prison.  Because soshulism.

So, stealing the tax money to pay for these free houses and prison for the poor from the job creators is what you want?

That sounds like facislamic socialism.


We can use eminent domain to requisition the properties, then have the inmates fix the houses up.  Hell, I could buy up half of Detroit with fifty bucks and have enough left over for a blowjob and a coke.  Call it "urban renewal".
 
2013-10-06 12:52:34 PM
The entire week I've literally never NOT gotten the "we're experiencing overload please wait" message. It's not good.
 
2013-10-06 12:59:05 PM
If anything this just shows how wildly popular the ACA is, so while it's inconvenient, it's a good sign.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-06 01:01:41 PM
I remember how long the lines were when Star Wars came out back in the 70's.  I don't know how well it did but it must have been a flop because there were lines.
 
2013-10-06 01:02:25 PM
I gotta say, whoever decided to use Windows Server should be taken out back and shot
 
2013-10-06 01:16:24 PM
This IT farkup was actually part of the Republican strategy. I remember the Teabagger arguments for not creatinga state-run exchange, and in addition to the obvious point of refusing to cooperate with Obamanism, they thought that they could overburden the federal system and cause it to fail, giving them another excuse to repeal Obamacare.

Servers and IT support cost money, and not much was budgeted for the federal exchange because they originally thought that few, if any, states would willingly cede control of their exchanges to the federal government. Of course now that they have, the obvious solution would be to ask Congress for some additional funding to support the rollout of Obamacare. I'm sure they'll get right on that.
 
2013-10-06 01:43:36 PM
Explain what is load testing and why did no one bother to do any serious load testing.
 
2013-10-06 01:44:52 PM

Riche: Because of this Obamacare is clearly a complete failure and should be immediately repealed.


and grandstanded at least twice more

/seriously, is it that hard a concept for America in dental to have the population on healthcare paid through taxes?
//oh, right, America, land of the freely charged
 
2013-10-06 01:45:37 PM
How the hell is a poor person who doesn't have a job that offers insurance supposed to be able to afford private insurance? Can anyone explain that?
 
2013-10-06 01:45:44 PM
it's not a bug it's a feature to throttle traffic?
 
2013-10-06 01:45:47 PM

Riche: Because of this Obamacare is clearly a complete failure and should be immediately repealed.


...and more to the point, obviously nobody wants to sign up.
 
2013-10-06 01:46:06 PM
And?  This is a fixable problem.

Plus if they did build up a huge infrastructure to handle the load perfectly from day one, people would be complaining it was overdesigned and too expensive.
 
2013-10-06 01:46:25 PM

rev. dave: Explain what is load testing and why did no one bother to do any serious load testing.


This is the load testing.  Doh.
 
2013-10-06 01:46:38 PM

TuteTibiImperes: If anything this just shows how wildly popular the ACA is, so while it's inconvenient, it's a good sign.


Popular? 366 signed-up (some have not paid) in Rhode Island and 373 applications in Connecticut. http://www.wpri.com/news/politics/state-politics/healthsource-ri-obam a care-sign-up-total-at-366-so-far

Page views != paid signups. Just ask Drew.
 
2013-10-06 01:47:27 PM
Not saying. But subby's mom's website peddling her wares had the same problem except different. No demand.
 
2013-10-06 01:48:36 PM
Signing into the system now gets you no benefit except paying for your plan sooner. I'm waiting a few more weeks, at least, before I try signing up.
 
2013-10-06 01:48:51 PM
The Obamacare website: the Simcity of our federal government.
 
2013-10-06 01:50:59 PM
Error 37?
 
2013-10-06 01:52:25 PM

TuteTibiImperes: If anything this just shows how wildly popular the ACA is, so while it's inconvenient, it's a good sign.


So you force people to join by threat of penalty, and this you call interest.

LOL you liberals are farked in the head
 
2013-10-06 01:53:22 PM

Riche: Because of this Obamacare is clearly a complete failure and should be immediately repealed.


This means Health.gov is farked and Michelle Bachmann gets Drew's beer.
 
2013-10-06 01:53:32 PM
No one thinks this is a giant DoS attack?
 
2013-10-06 01:54:09 PM

netringer: rev. dave: Explain what is load testing and why did no one bother to do any serious load testing.

This is the load testing.  Doh.


They did say that they assumed a peak demand of twice Medicare.gov's all-time peak demand, which equates to 60,000 concurrent users. They said the demand has consistently been about 250,000 concurrent users.  The problem isn't the ability to handle expected load, the problem is that the expected load was far smaller than their current, actual load.

What they really should have done is to stagger the rollout based on something like last name or zip code, to smooth out the demand spikes.
 
2013-10-06 01:54:45 PM

Typhoid: No one thinks this is a giant DoS attack?


virtually guarantee it's a DoS attack
 
2013-10-06 01:54:55 PM
 
2013-10-06 01:55:34 PM
At least they made the fine $95. If only the actual healthcare was as affordable as the "penalty", this would actually be something.
 
2013-10-06 01:56:50 PM

PanicMan: And?  This is a fixable problem.

Plus if they did build up a huge infrastructure to handle the load perfectly from day one, people would be complaining it was overdesigned and too expensive.


yes, people often complain when things work too well.

The things you libtards tell yourself are hilarious
 
2013-10-06 01:57:33 PM
Reminds me of:

img.fark.net

We must have crashed Fark at least three times that night.
 
2013-10-06 01:57:58 PM

stirfrybry: So you force people to join by threat of penalty, and this you call interest.


The penalty this year is miniscule. Given that, the current load really is a gauge of interest.
 
2013-10-06 01:58:23 PM

Typhoid: No one thinks this is a giant DoS attack?


your tinfoil hat is too tight
 
2013-10-06 01:58:49 PM
Yeah volume is pretty much the thing that makes the concept of Obamacare a fraud.
 
2013-10-06 01:59:23 PM
I've worked for software companies that produced software for use by the US government and I've worked at software companies that produced software for use by the private sector.  The differences were staggering and confirmed every stereotype about the government workers you've ever heard.  Utterly depressing.
 
2013-10-06 01:59:38 PM
Nobody goes there anymore -- it's too crowded.
 
2013-10-06 01:59:45 PM

TuteTibiImperes: If anything this just shows how wildly popular the ACA is, so while it's inconvenient, it's a good sign.


The Republican Talking Point is that entire storm of traffic to the exchanges was almost entirely the media and Congressional offices, because everyday people are rejecting them en-masse.

Then again, these are the same people who thought Unskewed Polls were the "real" way that the 2012 election would turn out, that global warming is "junk science", and that the Iraqi people would cheer us and celebrate us as liberators and the post-war occupation would be quick and easy.  They aren't known for the best working relationship with facts.
 
2013-10-06 02:00:04 PM

Fubini: netringer: rev. dave: Explain what is load testing and why did no one bother to do any serious load testing.

This is the load testing.  Doh.

They did say that they assumed a peak demand of twice Medicare.gov's all-time peak demand, which equates to 60,000 concurrent users. They said the demand has consistently been about 250,000 concurrent users.  The problem isn't the ability to handle expected load, the problem is that the expected load was far smaller than their current, actual load.

What they really should have done is to stagger the rollout based on something like last name or zip code, to smooth out the demand spikes.


in other words, incompetent implementation.
 
2013-10-06 02:01:05 PM

Silverstaff: TuteTibiImperes: If anything this just shows how wildly popular the ACA is, so while it's inconvenient, it's a good sign.

The Republican Talking Point is that entire storm of traffic to the exchanges was almost entirely the media and Congressional offices, because everyday people are rejecting them en-masse.

Then again, these are the same people who thought Unskewed Polls were the "real" way that the 2012 election would turn out, that global warming is "junk science", and that the Iraqi people would cheer us and celebrate us as liberators and the post-war occupation would be quick and easy.  They aren't known for the best working relationship with facts.


So... How is a minimum wage worker supposed to afford these private health plans?
 
2013-10-06 02:02:38 PM

Fubini: stirfrybry: So you force people to join by threat of penalty, and this you call interest.

The penalty this year is miniscule. Given that, the current load really is a gauge of interest.


1% of income is not miniscule, moron. I guess you don't understand the words "which ever is greater".
Low information voter. You're one
 
2013-10-06 02:02:40 PM

stirfrybry: PanicMan: And?  This is a fixable problem.

Plus if they did build up a huge infrastructure to handle the load perfectly from day one, people would be complaining it was overdesigned and too expensive.

yes, people often complain when things work too well.

The things you libtards tell yourself are hilarious


Not as hilarious as someone who uses "libtard" unironically.
 
2013-10-06 02:04:12 PM

SauronWasFramed: Whatif you don't pay the fine?


The same thing that happens if you don't pay your taxes. They take it. If you don't have the money, congrats, you get free health care in jail.
 
2013-10-06 02:04:56 PM

skullkrusher: Typhoid: No one thinks this is a giant DoS attack?

virtually guarantee it's a DoS attack


Conspiracy!
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One possible cause of the problems is that hitting "apply" on HealthCare.gov causes 92 separate files, plug-ins and other mammoth swarms of data to stream between the user's computer and the servers powering the government website, said Matthew Hancock, an independent expert in website design. He was able to track the files being requested through a feature in the Firefox browser.
Of the 92 he found, 56 were JavaScript files, including plug-ins that make it easier for code to work on multiple browsers (such as Microsoft Corp's Internet Explorer and Google Inc's Chrome) and let users upload files to HealthCare.gov.

It is not clear why the upload function was included.

"They set up the website in such a way that too many requests to the server arrived at the same time," Hancock said.

He said because so much traffic was going back and forth between the users' computers and the server hosting the government website, it was as if the system was attacking itself.

Hancock described the situation as similar to what happens when hackers conduct a distributed denial of service, or DDOS, attack on a website: they get large numbers of computers to simultaneously request information from the server that runs a website, overwhelming it and causing it to crash or otherwise stumble. "The site basically DDOS'd itself," he said.
 
2013-10-06 02:05:00 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Silverstaff: TuteTibiImperes: If anything this just shows how wildly popular the ACA is, so while it's inconvenient, it's a good sign.

The Republican Talking Point is that entire storm of traffic to the exchanges was almost entirely the media and Congressional offices, because everyday people are rejecting them en-masse.

Then again, these are the same people who thought Unskewed Polls were the "real" way that the 2012 election would turn out, that global warming is "junk science", and that the Iraqi people would cheer us and celebrate us as liberators and the post-war occupation would be quick and easy.  They aren't known for the best working relationship with facts.

So... How is a minimum wage worker supposed to afford these private health plans?


You're saying the subsidy for 100-400% of the poverty level isn't enough?
 
2013-10-06 02:05:45 PM

vpb: PainInTheASP: Nonsense.  We need to scrap the whole thing and start over.  Preferably with a solution that involves poorhouses and debtor's prison.  Because soshulism.

So, stealing the tax money to pay for these free houses and prison for the poor from the job creators is what you want?

That sounds like facislamic socialism.


ASP is Muslin. It's the best he can do. Thread commenting is hard work.
 
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