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(Marketwatch)   Thanksgiving and the first day of Hanukkah will fall on the same date in 2013: Nov. 28. Are you ready for Thanksgivukkah?   (marketwatch.com) divider line 75
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2013-10-06 12:46:59 PM
It's my kid's fifth birthday this year, too. It's going to be a hell of a party.
 
2013-10-06 12:54:30 PM
You kind of have to admire a celebration that traditionally includes ritualized pyromania, a bevy of fried foods, and the teaching of children how to gamble.
 
2013-10-06 12:54:40 PM

DominaNY: "Thanksgiving has nothing to do with genocide/oppression, unless you consider the mere presence of European immigrants in North America to equate to that, in which case, whatevs"

Hmm, anti-semitic AND insensitive to reality for millions of Native American's history and rude to women, all wrapped up in big ball of insecurity and lack of ability for critical thinking.

Nasty boy, now go flap to your hatred and pathetic sense of superiority.

Thanksgiving has EVERYTHING to do with genocide/oppression. DUH.


Well, no, I was just being rude to YOU, without respect to your sex. And not out of anti-semitism (I adore the Yiddishkeit). The "translated into English" wasn't because of the Yiddish, it was because you can't write very well, and you misspelled menurkey, which complicated my search to find out what you were on about. Don't screw with my googling, and I won't point out your literary shortcomings.

Also, you're gonna need to come up with a better argument tying Thanksgiving to genocide than "DUH." My argument is a) the Plymouth Colony settlers didn't displace any Native folk in that first year ashore, and they hosted the local Wampanoags at their harvest festival feast (the first actual "Thanksgiving" wasn't celebrated until 1623). b) Thanksiving is a secularized religious holiday that generically substitutes for a harvest feast. Unlike, say, Columbus Day, it doesn't specifically celebrate the European presence in North America; that's just associated with it because of the misremembered history of the "First Thanksgiving." Which was, as I said, a mitzvah.

So, you have any counter to that argument, beyond "duh?"
 
2013-10-06 12:59:10 PM

flondrix: almandot: Jewish calendar. It's a lunar calendar so shifts compared to our solar calendar every year but not starts on the 25th day of the month Kislev every year

So, how early can Hanukkah get on the Gregorian calendar?



This looks like one of the earliest. Only went back a few decades on an online converter but earliest I could find was nov 28th in 1994 and a nov 30th some other year. I do remember being fairly pissed when it was as late as Christmas though and having to wait that long for presents. ;) #jewproblems #alsohitler
 
2013-10-06 12:59:50 PM
More like thanks give a farkah? Amidoinitrite?
 
2013-10-06 01:10:51 PM

flondrix: almandot: Jewish calendar. It's a lunar calendar so shifts compared to our solar calendar every year but not starts on the 25th day of the month Kislev every year

So, how early can Hanukkah get on the Gregorian calendar?


As someone said upthread, this is about the earliest it can go.  The Jewish lunar calendar has a leap month so that the months and seasons don't get too far out of sync. The Muslim lunar calendar, however, does not, which is why Ramadan wanders throughout the whole year.

/this is why our peoples kill each other
//not really
///Christians have a really farked-up half-lunar calender, or rather, several of them.
 
2013-10-06 01:12:51 PM
"As G_d as my witness I thought bratwurst were kosher"
 
2013-10-06 01:17:01 PM

Moonfisher: It's my kid's fifth birthday this year, too. It's going to be a hell of a party.


Happy Birth-givings-kah to you
Happy Birth-givings-kah to you
You can eat cake and turkey
and loukoumades too!
 
2013-10-06 01:17:53 PM
So much for sausage stuffing.
 
2013-10-06 01:23:04 PM
Really? No one wanted to go with Hansgiving? I love Hansgiving!

img594.imageshack.us


/I know.
 
2013-10-06 01:25:41 PM

Valiente: So much for sausage stuffing.


i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-06 01:59:19 PM
Behold, the Menurkey:

menurkey.com
 
2013-10-06 02:01:11 PM
We're coming up on the 100th anniversary of the Thanksgiving Proclamation issued by Abraham Lincoln in the familiar late November setting. (so, it was a bit about genocide, just not far enough).

And you can ask those WWII veterans waiting outside the memorials about how FDR shifted around Thanksgiving a little earlier in the month to jumpstart the Christmas shopping season.
 
2013-10-06 02:03:43 PM
I'm glad my family isn't Jewish. Thanksgiving is going to be hectic as it is this year - I'm due to give birth to my first child right around Thanksgiving and a family member has taken it upon herself to invite everyone she knows plus the neighbors plus some random homeless people (not really, but very likely at this point) over for Thanksgiving dinner so that people can see the baby.

Did anyone ask my significant other or me if we wanted to have THAT many people around when I'm either in the hospital, about to enter the hospital or just leaving the hospital?

Maybe if I fake a psychotic break, the hospital will keep me longer ...
 
2013-10-06 03:37:51 PM

almandot: First day or first night? *to the google-mobile* Chanukah starts the night of Wednesday the 27th. So it's half being early this year and half thanksgiving seeming late this year :P.


danfrank: I remember being jealous of the Jewish kids because they were getting presents a couple of weeks before I did, but this seems really early.

How is the start date decided anyway?


Jewish calendar. It's a lunar calendar so shifts compared to our solar calendar every year but not starts on the 25th day of the month Kislev every year


But what really screws it up is the leap month every so often.  Yeah, no leap day every 4 years, a whole month, every 7 years IIRC.
 
2013-10-06 03:39:39 PM

SithLord: I'd like to see Adam Sandler try to make a song out of that.


He could make a song out of a bowel obstruction and laugh to himself while 'preforming' it befor a live audience.
 
2013-10-06 04:47:26 PM
Let us be thankful for Hannukah (correctly pronounced whichever way you didn't pronounce it). Yes, Hannukah, eight days that keep on giving!

Woo! Eight days of presents and stuffing ourselves until we plop down in front of a football game with eight magical minutes in which the players are not standing around scratching their over-padded fat asses.

Here's a helpful hint: why not move Christmas forward so we can do them all at once (except for Canadian Thanksgiving, of course).

Think how much easier the holiday traveling would be in November, especially if all the Liberals celebrate Christmas in November and the Conservatives stick to December.

It would be highly profiable for everybody except the sellers of holiday cards and decorations.

Just throwing it out there, like heaving a weasel among the chickens.

No, I'm not technically trolling. This could work.
 
2013-10-06 04:50:07 PM

flaminio: Behold, the Menurkey:

[menurkey.com image 680x520]

You are so beau-ti-ful to meeeeeeeeee!


I bought a Joe Cocker album at the library yesterday. I was thinking of Joe Walsh at the time, but hey, they're both good!
 
2013-10-06 09:28:19 PM
brantgoose:

Just throwing it out there, like heaving a weasel among the chickens.

i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-06 10:20:43 PM
I call it GuiltGiving.
 
2013-10-07 05:21:37 AM

FloydA: brantgoose:

Just throwing it out there, like heaving a weasel among the chickens.


img.fark.net

You guys are talking about buttf*cking, right?
 
2013-10-07 09:38:36 AM
As a Jew in the US, I LOVE your combo-holiday name, Subby! Thanks! :)
 
2013-10-07 11:20:37 AM

danfrank: I remember being jealous of the Jewish kids because they were getting presents a couple of weeks before I did, but this seems really early.

How is the start date decided anyway?


I just find it amusing that a user named danfrank really should now this already....

/maybe written in your diary?
 
2013-10-07 03:32:43 PM

Moonfisher: It's my kid's fifth birthday this year, too. It's going to be a hell of a party.


My kids 7th.  Happy birthday to them.

/Wonder if he'll noticed the turkey shaped birthday cake with a menorah on it?
 
2013-10-07 03:41:25 PM

aevorea: I'm glad my family isn't Jewish. Thanksgiving is going to be hectic as it is this year - I'm due to give birth to my first child right around Thanksgiving and a family member has taken it upon herself to invite everyone she knows plus the neighbors plus some random homeless people (not really, but very likely at this point) over for Thanksgiving dinner so that people can see the baby.

Did anyone ask my significant other or me if we wanted to have THAT many people around when I'm either in the hospital, about to enter the hospital or just leaving the hospital?

Maybe if I fake a psychotic break, the hospital will keep me longer ...


Take it in stride.  One of the most amusing Thanksgivings we had was when Mrs. Xtalman was pregnant with our son.  He was due on Thanksgiving that year and we spent it with other familyless coworkers that year.  Loved the looks on their faces when they asked when she was due and she said today.  Little guy was born 5 days later.
 
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