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(Time)   Congratulations to Steve Jobs. Two years cancer free   (business.time.com) divider line 109
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2013-10-06 08:49:28 AM
oy...
 
2013-10-06 10:24:50 AM
Apple's marketing is all about the warm family nostalgia feels you get from using an iphone. not a bit of technical expertise or cutting edge hipsterdom in sight.

in a few years they'll be the next blackberry.
 
2013-10-06 10:48:22 AM
Was funnier on Amy Winehouse's one-year-sober anniversary.
 
2013-10-06 10:58:43 AM
How dare you insult my lord?
 
2013-10-06 11:23:13 AM

Generation_D: Apple's marketing is all about the warm family nostalgia feels you get from using an iphone. not a bit of technical expertise or cutting edge hipsterdom in sight.

in a few years they'll be the next blackberry.


I bet you bought a Zune, didn't you?
 
2013-10-06 11:27:47 AM
www.reactiongifs.us
 
GBB
2013-10-06 11:30:09 AM
Technically, the cancer has been Jobs free for 2 years.
 
2013-10-06 11:30:31 AM

cmunic8r99: Was funnier on Amy Winehouse's one-year-sober anniversary.


Aye.  Lame copycats.  Subby is bad and should feel bad.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-06 11:30:56 AM
Wow. Subby is going to hell fo sho.
 
2013-10-06 11:30:58 AM
I think he's dead, isn't he?
 
2013-10-06 11:31:34 AM
You forgot about that malignant biopic earlier this year.
 
2013-10-06 11:31:51 AM
Subby you got an audible groan out of me. congrats.
 
2013-10-06 11:34:07 AM

cman: How dare you insult my lord?


Oh my god we just found GingerJets alt!
 
2013-10-06 11:35:16 AM
you suck, subby
 
2013-10-06 11:37:37 AM

GBB: Technically, the cancer has been Jobs free for 2 years.


this.
 
2013-10-06 11:38:53 AM
linkI'm just gonna leave this here.
 
2013-10-06 11:39:34 AM

theflatline: cman: How dare you insult my lord?

Oh my god we just found GingerJets alt!


Ooooh .... you are soooo cute.
 
2013-10-06 11:41:38 AM
Unfortunately he still a cancer on society
 
2013-10-06 11:42:06 AM
iRot
 
2013-10-06 11:42:19 AM
FTFA Apple enjoyed a head start in the smart phone market with the iPhone and in tablets with the iPad.

Ah ... no they didn't.  Revisionist history much?

/of course Apple is different - that's actually a good thing
 
2013-10-06 11:43:39 AM
Genius? No.

Borderline sociopath or possible high-functioning autism? yes.
 
2013-10-06 11:44:20 AM

gingerjet: FTFA Apple enjoyed a head start in the smart phone market with the iPhone and in tablets with the iPad.

Ah ... no they didn't.  Revisionist history much?

/of course Apple is different - that's actually a good thing


Don't you know that nothing existing until apple created it?
 
2013-10-06 11:45:00 AM
stupid auto correct
 
2013-10-06 11:45:23 AM
You have to excuse Jobs not showing up to the second year anniversary as he is quite buried in his work right now.
 
2013-10-06 11:50:10 AM

stirfrybry: iRot


ilol'ed
 
2013-10-06 11:52:21 AM
Greatest marketing company of all time. They also sell electronic devices.
 
2013-10-06 11:55:03 AM
He's still dead. It's all good.
 
2013-10-06 11:55:33 AM

Nabb1: Generation_D: Apple's marketing is all about the warm family nostalgia feels you get from using an iphone. not a bit of technical expertise or cutting edge hipsterdom in sight.

in a few years they'll be the next blackberry.

I bet you bought a Zune, didn't you?


Apple has quickly lost marketshare to Android. Currently they are secondplace in the market, with Android showing no signs of slowing down, and numerous tablet/phone makers eating up Apple's lunch.

And justifiably so. iOS is garbage and Apple's closed system approach to the market is bad for the consumer.
 
2013-10-06 11:57:28 AM
See it was funny when the headline was about Amy Winehouse, 'cause it was original then and was largely the result of her own stupidity. Now the headline's just weak and pathetic.
 
2013-10-06 11:57:55 AM

d23: Wow. Subby is going to hell fo sho.


He turned to alternative magical bullshiat for curing his disease so I'm giving subby a pass.
 
2013-10-06 12:00:01 PM
And heartbeat free.
 
2013-10-06 12:03:09 PM

wiredroach: See it was funny when the headline was about Amy Winehouse, 'cause it was original then and was largely the result of her own stupidity. Now the headline's just weak and pathetic.


Sounds like we got a apple fanboi all butthurt
 
2013-10-06 12:07:33 PM
Is this the lets bag on Apple thread and show how bad they are, or did some of you actually buy the Samsung Galaxy Gear watch thing.

/worst idea ever, Apple will most likely never release an iWatch.
 
2013-10-06 12:07:45 PM

Russ1642: d23: Wow. Subby is going to hell fo sho.

He turned to alternative magical bullshiat for curing his disease so I'm giving subby a pass.


Well, he is cancer-free, so I would say it worked.
 
2013-10-06 12:16:40 PM

Lando Lincoln: I think he's dead, isn't he?


i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-06 12:19:55 PM

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: He's still dead. It's all good.


                                                     ^this^
 
2013-10-06 12:20:35 PM
Apple is in the Steve Ballmer Ghost Ship mode of their corporate life. It's like they've been paralyzed with fear now that they don't have their autistic weirdo in chief.
 
2013-10-06 12:26:20 PM
So fun to listen to you guys defend the guy who had a biography written so that his daughter would know about him.
 
2013-10-06 12:31:06 PM
Ohhh dear.
 
2013-10-06 12:31:42 PM
Francisco Franco is still dead, too.
 
2013-10-06 12:32:04 PM

Misconduc: wiredroach: See it was funny when the headline was about Amy Winehouse, 'cause it was original then and was largely the result of her own stupidity. Now the headline's just weak and pathetic.

Sounds like we got a apple fanboi all butthurt


Is there an opposite to Apple "fanboi"?  Because the opposing members seem way more passionate about their feelings than the usual consumer that chooses Apple products.  Applesnivelers?
 
2013-10-06 12:32:51 PM

Nick Nostril: Greatest marketing company of all time. They also sell electronic devices.


No, the greatest marketing evil genius of all time is whoever came up with bottled water for $2+/pint. #2 would probably be HP for getting people to plunk down enough for inkjet cartridges to render it one of the most expensive liquids on the planet, way ahead of the most expensive perfume. I think the only liquid more expensive would be liquid hydrogen or some such.
 
2013-10-06 12:35:01 PM

GBB: Technically, the cancer has been Jobs free for 2 years.


Thank, Obama.
 
2013-10-06 12:40:24 PM

ArcadianRefugee: GBB: Technically, the cancer has been Jobs free for 2 years.

Thank, Obama.


Probably Cancer is collecting welfare and talking on the Obama phone.
 
2013-10-06 12:40:28 PM
When are people going to write how Steve Jobs was an impatient asshole of the highest caliber. Well, the asshole is long dead. The End.
 
2013-10-06 12:43:02 PM
Jobs was the face of the personal computer revolution but he gets a lot of credit for the work other people did.  His business savvy is impressive, but much of the technology and innovation that made said revolution possible did not come from him and in some cases did not come from Apple at all.  His death was tragic and I would not wish what he had on anyone, but there are a lot of people who deserve a slice of his fame who never get mentioned and who society has already forgotten.
 
2013-10-06 12:44:04 PM
BOOOOO!!!

/+1
 
2013-10-06 12:44:14 PM

Billy Bathsalt: Misconduc: wiredroach: See it was funny when the headline was about Amy Winehouse, 'cause it was original then and was largely the result of her own stupidity. Now the headline's just weak and pathetic.

Sounds like we got a apple fanboi all butthurt

Is there an opposite to Apple "fanboi"?  Because the opposing members seem way more passionate about their feelings than the usual consumer that chooses Apple products.  Applesnivelers?


It's straight up Pavlovian that whenever these threads come up the same few people repeat the exact same things over and over again.

But then again, this is Fark. Originality isn't really bred in these parts.
 
2013-10-06 12:44:39 PM
Lately the anti-iPhone derp I get emailed to me by my tinfoil hat father has been cranked up to potato. The stuff from WND refers to the iPhone as a "newfound technological gadget" designed to undermine and destroy Real Amurka. I can't wait until Google glass turns up on their radar in 8 years.
 
2013-10-06 12:48:24 PM

blugenes: Jobs was the face of the personal computer revolution but he gets a lot of credit for the work other people did.  His business savvy is impressive, but much of the technology and innovation that made said revolution possible did not come from him and in some cases did not come from Apple at all.  His death was tragic and I would not wish what he had on anyone, but there are a lot of people who deserve a slice of his fame who never get mentioned and who society has already forgotten.


It's rarely acknowledged that whenever there is a figurehead getting credit, this is  always the case. Tesla is a great case for this. If you read pop-sites on the internet you would get the impression that he was electric Jesus. But most of his work was already established, just not in widespread use. See: Alternating Current
 
2013-10-06 12:52:19 PM

Billy Bathsalt: Misconduc: wiredroach: See it was funny when the headline was about Amy Winehouse, 'cause it was original then and was largely the result of her own stupidity. Now the headline's just weak and pathetic.

Sounds like we got a apple fanboi all butthurt

Is there an opposite to Apple "fanboi"?  Because the opposing members seem way more passionate about their feelings than the usual consumer that chooses Apple products.  Applesnivelers?


Droid Rage.
 
2013-10-06 12:54:04 PM

Nick Nostril: Greatest marketing company of all time. They also sell electronic devices.


Yes, getting people to buy your product and be happy with it is bad, and they should be put on notice for such heinous antics.
 
2013-10-06 12:54:39 PM

Misconduc: ArcadianRefugee: GBB: Technically, the cancer has been Jobs free for 2 years.

Thank, Obama.

Probably Cancer is collecting welfare and talking on the Obama phone.


Obama is sure putting a lot of detailed work into destroying America. I'd just nuke the whole thing and be done with it
 
2013-10-06 12:59:57 PM

MightyPez: blugenes: Jobs was the face of the personal computer revolution but he gets a lot of credit for the work other people did.  His business savvy is impressive, but much of the technology and innovation that made said revolution possible did not come from him and in some cases did not come from Apple at all.  His death was tragic and I would not wish what he had on anyone, but there are a lot of people who deserve a slice of his fame who never get mentioned and who society has already forgotten.

It's rarely acknowledged that whenever there is a figurehead getting credit, this is  always the case. Tesla is a great case for this. If you read pop-sites on the internet you would get the impression that he was electric Jesus. But most of his work was already established, just not in widespread use. See: Alternating Current



I think that was the entire thesis of the James Burke's Connections.

"If I can see further than anyone else, it is only because I am standing on the shoulders of giants." - Isaac Newton
 
2013-10-06 01:03:35 PM
Steve Jobs, love him or hate him, was good at a couple things.  Design...he knew what
looked good, and would put his foot down until the design was of his liking.  The 2nd thing
he was extremely good at was marketing.  For better or worse, he knew how to "thrill a crowd"
and create demand for something a lot of people didn't know they (thought they) needed.
The iphone is a terrific product, but I skipped it.  It didn't fill a need I had, or wanted, it was
locked down where I couldn't tinker with it very much.  It's a very well made device, works as
intended, but I just didn't care for it, and, the screen is WAY too small for my needs, which is
why I have a "phablet".  Works for my needs.
I think Apple has started to "burst" it's bubble, so to speak.  With Jobs gone again, this time for
good, the bean counters will take over, and the same problems the company had the first time
Jobs left, will happen again, but, this time, there will be no Jobs to come back to.  Even if they
threw a ton of money at Woz, he won't come back, and, no disrespect to him, he never was the
"flash" of Apple, that was Job's persona.  Unless someone comes along with some really fresh
ideas, I think Apple will slowly move to a more mainstream company, with their stock price reflecting
that transition.
 
2013-10-06 01:08:44 PM
Subby is teh fail.
Headline would've been funnier and cleverer (and more accurate) while being just as coarse and rude had it read:

"Congratulations to Apple. Two years cancer free"
 
2013-10-06 01:14:03 PM
Oh god, that is a funny headline,  Subs. I will upvote that one. Darkly snarky with a touch of Android fanboi in it. Well done!
 
2013-10-06 01:23:00 PM

COMALite J: Nick Nostril: Greatest marketing company of all time. They also sell electronic devices.

No, the greatest marketing evil genius of all time is whoever came up with bottled water for $2+/pint. #2 would probably be HP for getting people to plunk down enough for inkjet cartridges to render it one of the most expensive liquids on the planet, way ahead of the most expensive perfume. I think the only liquid more expensive would be liquid hydrogen or some such.


Actually, it's far, far more expensive than liquid H2 or He.  You can buy those in bulk fairly cheaply- liquid He is about $14/liter right now in small batches.  H2 prices are harder to find, probably because you don't buy it by the gallon, you're buying it by the tanker car., but it's probably a tenth of that.

A quick web search indicates that mercury costs about the same per gallon, but that's partly because mercury's so freaking dense.
 
2013-10-06 01:23:30 PM
subby, you inglorious bastard, great headline
 
2013-10-06 01:24:34 PM
Proud to say I've never bought an Apple device, though in 1984 I saw a Lisa and I watched a PBS show about the Next Cube.  Does my phone have little buttons so I can make calls, send texts and browse the Web?  Yep.  Who gives a crap the brand name logo on the back?
 
2013-10-06 01:33:00 PM

rkiller1: Proud to say I've never bought an Apple device, though in 1984 I saw a Lisa and I watched a PBS show about the Next Cube.  Does my phone have little buttons so I can make calls, send texts and browse the Web?  Yep.  Who gives a crap the brand name logo on the back?


Very few people. And yet, you say you're proud to have never owned an Apple product. That's a heck if a lot more care than I have about my phone.
/ Apple and ios user mostly out of my familiarity with Macs from childhood. Dual boot when I need to use Windows. Makes hardly any difference which ecosystem I use.
 
2013-10-06 01:40:53 PM

p51d007: Steve Jobs, love him or hate him, was good at a couple things.  Design...he knew what
looked good, and would put his foot down until the design was of his liking.  The 2nd thing
he was extremely good at was marketing.  For better or worse, he knew how to "thrill a crowd"
and create demand for something a lot of people didn't know they (thought they) needed.
The iphone is a terrific product, but I skipped it.  It didn't fill a need I had, or wanted, it was
locked down where I couldn't tinker with it very much.  It's a very well made device, works as
intended, but I just didn't care for it, and, the screen is WAY too small for my needs, which is
why I have a "phablet".  Works for my needs.
I think Apple has started to "burst" it's bubble, so to speak.  With Jobs gone again, this time for
good, the bean counters will take over, and the same problems the company had the first time
Jobs left, will happen again, but, this time, there will be no Jobs to come back to.  Even if they
threw a ton of money at Woz, he won't come back, and, no disrespect to him, he never was the
"flash" of Apple, that was Job's persona.  Unless someone comes along with some really fresh
ideas, I think Apple will slowly move to a more mainstream company, with their stock price reflecting
that transition.


I will agree with most of this, but you never know, if there is another person out there who's good at consumer tech design and knows what people want, Apple will probably be the only place where they will succeed. I don't think they are currently in the old Sculley phase though.
 
2013-10-06 02:02:15 PM
SUICIDE NETS.

That is all.
 
2013-10-06 02:07:16 PM
Steve Jobs helped me to realize and understand that I will never be sitting in a doctor's office screaming at the top of my lungs "but I'm a millionaire why can't we stop this cancer!"  Not that he ever did but it's just one less worry I have.
 
2013-10-06 02:33:10 PM

natmar_76: Nabb1: Generation_D: Apple's marketing is all about the warm family nostalgia feels you get from using an iphone. not a bit of technical expertise or cutting edge hipsterdom in sight.

in a few years they'll be the next blackberry.

I bet you bought a Zune, didn't you?

Apple has quickly lost marketshare to Android. Currently they are secondplace in the market, with Android showing no signs of slowing down, and numerous tablet/phone makers eating up Apple's lunch.

And justifiably so. iOS is garbage and Apple's closed system approach to the market is bad for the consumer.


Ah yes, the ol' mobile OS market share argument.

Meanwhile, on the hardware side, Apple's iPhone dominates.

But keep on clinging to the OS angle. After all, iOS never had the honor of serving the public via the Samsung Dart or the Motorola Backflip
 
2013-10-06 02:33:14 PM

Generation_D: Apple's marketing is all about the warm family nostalgia feels you get from using an iphone. not a bit of technical expertise or cutting edge hipsterdom in sight.

in a few years they'll be the next blackberry.


Yeah, um no.  No matter how much you want to believe that it sill won't be true.
 
2013-10-06 02:37:42 PM

relaxitsjustme: Generation_D: Apple's marketing is all about the warm family nostalgia feels you get from using an iphone. not a bit of technical expertise or cutting edge hipsterdom in sight.

in a few years they'll be the next blackberry.

Yeah, um no.  No matter how much you want to believe that it sill won't be true.


Someone quote this in five years.
 
2013-10-06 02:39:40 PM

natmar_76: Apple has quickly lost marketshare to Android. Currently they are secondplace in the market, with Android showing no signs of slowing down, and numerous tablet/phone makers eating up Apple's lunch.

And justifiably so. iOS is garbage and Apple's closed system approach to the market is bad for the consumer.


The reason why Android has more market share than Apple is because Android is a whore.  Scratch that, whores charge money.  Android will spread its legs for any hardware manufacturer that wants to fark it.   Apple controls everything from start to finish.  Why you see one or the other of those systems as bad for the consumer is something you have talked yourself into believing but has no basis in fact.
 
2013-10-06 02:40:17 PM

Franco: relaxitsjustme: Generation_D: Apple's marketing is all about the warm family nostalgia feels you get from using an iphone. not a bit of technical expertise or cutting edge hipsterdom in sight.

in a few years they'll be the next blackberry.

Yeah, um no.  No matter how much you want to believe that it sill won't be true.

Someone quote this in five years.


That works both ways.
 
2013-10-06 02:51:54 PM

relaxitsjustme: natmar_76: Apple has quickly lost marketshare to Android. Currently they are secondplace in the market, with Android showing no signs of slowing down, and numerous tablet/phone makers eating up Apple's lunch.

And justifiably so. iOS is garbage and Apple's closed system approach to the market is bad for the consumer.

The reason why Android has more market share than Apple is because Android is a whore.  Scratch that, whores charge money.  Android will spread its legs for any hardware manufacturer that wants to fark it.   Apple controls everything from start to finish.  Why you see one or the other of those systems as bad for the consumer is something you have talked yourself into believing but has no basis in fact.


Just a reminder, Apple "control everything" approach is the exact reason why the lost to Microsoft in the desktop wars. It looks like Apple didn't learn their lesson.
 
2013-10-06 03:09:32 PM

carnifex2005: relaxitsjustme: natmar_76: Apple has quickly lost marketshare to Android. Currently they are secondplace in the market, with Android showing no signs of slowing down, and numerous tablet/phone makers eating up Apple's lunch.

And justifiably so. iOS is garbage and Apple's closed system approach to the market is bad for the consumer.

The reason why Android has more market share than Apple is because Android is a whore.  Scratch that, whores charge money.  Android will spread its legs for any hardware manufacturer that wants to fark it.   Apple controls everything from start to finish.  Why you see one or the other of those systems as bad for the consumer is something you have talked yourself into believing but has no basis in fact.

Just a reminder, Apple "control everything" approach is the exact reason why the lost to Microsoft in the desktop wars. It looks like Apple didn't learn their lesson.


That's only one small piece of the story.  http://www.businessinsider.com/how-apple-really-lost-its-lead-in-the- 8 0s-2012-12
 
2013-10-06 03:10:59 PM

abhorrent1: gingerjet: FTFA Apple enjoyed a head start in the smart phone market with the iPhone and in tablets with the iPad.

Ah ... no they didn't.  Revisionist history much?

/of course Apple is different - that's actually a good thing

Don't you know that nothing existing until apple created it?


Were you old enough to have seen the smartphones before the iphone? If I were to show you one you wouldnt even recognize it as a smartphone. Not that you would recognize it even if you were old enough because they were so bad that nobody wanted one. The iphone was the mitochondrial Eve of smartphones and whatever phone you are using is the legacy of that product, right down to half of the features.

/no, I dont own an apple device
 
2013-10-06 03:24:20 PM
Surprised Apple PR had the class for not making a Steve Jobs "Think Different" poster.
 
2013-10-06 03:28:46 PM

Russ1642: d23: Wow. Subby is going to hell fo sho.

He turned to alternative magical bullshiat for curing his disease so I'm giving subby a pass.


As opposed to mainstream, scientific cures for cancer.
 
2013-10-06 03:29:07 PM

wiredroach: See it was funny when the headline was about Amy Winehouse, 'cause it was original then and was largely the result of her own stupidity. Now the headline's just weak and pathetic.


Do a little research into exactly what Jobs was sick with and how he initially went about "curing" it.  Winehouse at least had a legitimate physical addiction, Jobs was just a woo-woo moonbeam idiot.

/Loves Mac computers
//HATES iPhones &iPads
 
2013-10-06 04:10:59 PM

COMALite J: Nick Nostril: Greatest marketing company of all time. They also sell electronic devices.

No, the greatest marketing evil genius of all time is whoever came up with bottled water for $2+/pint. #2 would probably be HP for getting people to plunk down enough for inkjet cartridges to render it one of the most expensive liquids on the planet, way ahead of the most expensive perfume. I think the only liquid more expensive would be liquid hydrogen or some such.


Nah, that's called the razor blade model because Gilette pioneered it.  Razors are just thin pieces of steel sold for huge markups.  But they literally give away the razor holders, which costs millions in R&D.

Ink jet print heads are similarly expensive to develop and produce.  Without being subsidized by ink, the printers would cost hundreds more and fewer people would buy them.  Fewer people would buy them because humans tend to think short term in costs and that upfront capital would be a roadblock.

It's a classic business model that works very well, with many variants.
 
2013-10-06 04:17:02 PM

Congratulations to Apple. Two years cancer free.

Now the headline is teh funney

/not really.

 
2013-10-06 04:20:18 PM

natmar_76: Nabb1: Generation_D: Apple's marketing is all about the warm family nostalgia feels you get from using an iphone. not a bit of technical expertise or cutting edge hipsterdom in sight.

in a few years they'll be the next blackberry.

I bet you bought a Zune, didn't you?

Apple has quickly lost marketshare to Android. Currently they are secondplace in the market, with Android showing no signs of slowing down, and numerous tablet/phone makers eating up Apple's lunch.

And justifiably so. iOS is garbage and Apple's closed system approach to the market is bad for the consumer.


Well at least we know what Samsung's official Fark handle is.
 
2013-10-06 04:45:16 PM

natmar_76: Nabb1: Generation_D: Apple's marketing is all about the warm family nostalgia feels you get from using an iphone. not a bit of technical expertise or cutting edge hipsterdom in sight.

in a few years they'll be the next blackberry.

I bet you bought a Zune, didn't you?

Apple has quickly lost marketshare to Android. Currently they are secondplace in the market, with Android showing no signs of slowing down, and numerous tablet/phone makers eating up Apple's lunch.

And justifiably so. iOS is garbage and Apple's closed system approach to the market is bad for the consumer.


Android is a platform used by multiple phones. The iPhone is the only phone using iOS. So it's a bit like saying Ford is outsold by all of the other automakers combined.

I don't like the closed nature of iOS but it's not garbage. It's a good operating system for those who don't need the flexibility of Android.
 
2013-10-06 04:46:32 PM

Zizzowop: Is this the lets bag on Apple thread and show how bad they are, or did some of you actually buy the Samsung Galaxy Gear watch thing.

/worst idea ever, Apple will most likely never release an iWatch.


Yes they will.
 
2013-10-06 04:49:55 PM

Moonfisher: Lately the anti-iPhone derp I get emailed to me by my tinfoil hat father has been cranked up to potato. The stuff from WND refers to the iPhone as a "newfound technological gadget" designed to undermine and destroy Real Amurka. I can't wait until Google glass turns up on their radar in 8 years.


That's absolutely wizard considering that Apple is the only American phone company left.
 
2013-10-06 05:15:41 PM

Nick Nostril: Greatest marketing company of all time. They also sell electronic devices.


That would be Microsoft.
 
2013-10-06 05:19:03 PM

Nick Nostril: Greatest marketing company of all time. They also sell electronic devices.


Not as good as whoever brainwashed you into parroting this garbage.
 
2013-10-06 05:19:54 PM
NOT too soon.
 
2013-10-06 05:21:38 PM

natmar_76: Nabb1: Generation_D: Apple's marketing is all about the warm family nostalgia feels you get from using an iphone. not a bit of technical expertise or cutting edge hipsterdom in sight.

in a few years they'll be the next blackberry.

I bet you bought a Zune, didn't you?

Apple has quickly lost marketshare to Android. Currently they are secondplace in the market, with Android showing no signs of slowing down, and numerous tablet/phone makers eating up Apple's lunch.


Wrong again. Apple 's marketshare in the U.S. is growing.

And justifiably so. iOS is garbage and Apple's closed system approach to the market is bad for the consumer.

Lame troll. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
2013-10-06 05:22:01 PM

carnifex2005: Just a reminder, Apple "control everything" approach is the exact reason why the lost to Microsoft in the desktop wars.


Nope. IBM was the one that lost; Gates pulled a fast one on them, thereby yanking their market out from beneath their feet. They practically gave MS the market for their "DOS-hacked-to-look-like-a-mac"-OS. Apple is still on the desktop, while MS looks more and more like a mammoth sinking into a tar pit.
 
2013-10-06 05:23:15 PM

Billy Bathsalt: Is there an opposite to Apple "fanboi"?  Because the opposing members seem way more passionate about their feelings than the usual consumer that chooses Apple products.  Applesnivelers?


"Hipsters." The word you're looking for is "hipsters."
 
2013-10-06 05:25:36 PM

natmar_76: iOS is garbage and Apple's closed system approach to the market is bad for the consumer.


In what way? If you want something that "just works," closed is probably the way to go.
 
2013-10-06 05:46:41 PM

natmar_76: Apple has quickly lost marketshare to Android. Currently they are secondplace in the market, with Android showing no signs of slowing down, and numerous tablet/phone makers eating up Apple's lunch.


I would believe this, except that I switched to a Droid X2 for several years.  The UI was astoundingly uncalibrated for human use; it was like switching to GNU/Linux in 1998 all over again.

Android has a huge market share because they're "everyone else" to Apple and Microsoft.   The huge growing market share of Android is due to a lot of the last generation of phone makers finally offering a touch-screen smart phone and not having any in-house ability to put an OS on it.
 
2013-10-06 05:55:17 PM

Fallout Boy: abhorrent1: gingerjet: FTFA Apple enjoyed a head start in the smart phone market with the iPhone and in tablets with the iPad.

Ah ... no they didn't.  Revisionist history much?

/of course Apple is different - that's actually a good thing

Don't you know that nothing existing until apple created it?

Were you old enough to have seen the smartphones before the iphone? If I were to show you one you wouldnt even recognize it as a smartphone. Not that you would recognize it even if you were old enough because they were so bad that nobody wanted one. The iphone was the mitochondrial Eve of smartphones and whatever phone you are using is the legacy of that product, right down to half of the features.


Really?  No phone looked like a modern smartphone before the iPhone?

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2013-10-06 06:41:19 PM

Xcott: natmar_76: Apple has quickly lost marketshare to Android. Currently they are secondplace in the market, with Android showing no signs of slowing down, and numerous tablet/phone makers eating up Apple's lunch.

I would believe this, except that I switched to a Droid X2 for several years.  The UI was astoundingly uncalibrated for human use; it was like switching to GNU/Linux in 1998 all over again.


Well, I am assuming basic computer skills. Anyone who has used Windows should be able to get a grip on Android 4.2. And no one buys something just because it's an alternative, not if it sucks.
 
2013-10-06 06:43:29 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Fallout Boy: abhorrent1: gingerjet: FTFA Apple enjoyed a head start in the smart phone market with the iPhone and in tablets with the iPad.

Ah ... no they didn't.  Revisionist history much?

/of course Apple is different - that's actually a good thing

Don't you know that nothing existing until apple created it?

Were you old enough to have seen the smartphones before the iphone? If I were to show you one you wouldnt even recognize it as a smartphone. Not that you would recognize it even if you were old enough because they were so bad that nobody wanted one. The iphone was the mitochondrial Eve of smartphones and whatever phone you are using is the legacy of that product, right down to half of the features.

Really?  No phone looked like a modern smartphone before the iPhone?

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 You can tell Apple copied it because they look almost nothing alike, and the iPhone came out a month later. Everyone knows you can build a brand new product from the ground up in only a month.
 
2013-10-06 07:26:05 PM

natmar_76: Anyone who has used Windows should be able to get a grip on Android 4.2.


Maybe that's part of the problem.  We're talking about a phone.

Imagine telling your boss, "anyone who has used Microsoft Windows should be able to understand our TV remote."  Either you'd be fired, or your product is destined to be lousier than that of your competitors.

Even if 100 other TV companies adopt your remote design; that doesn't mean your design is good, it means 100 other companies don't have an engineer who can design a remote in-house.
 
2013-10-06 07:35:53 PM

BadReligion: Glockenspiel Hero: Fallout Boy: abhorrent1: gingerjet: FTFA Apple enjoyed a head start in the smart phone market with the iPhone and in tablets with the iPad.

Ah ... no they didn't.  Revisionist history much?

/of course Apple is different - that's actually a good thing

Don't you know that nothing existing until apple created it?

Were you old enough to have seen the smartphones before the iphone? If I were to show you one you wouldnt even recognize it as a smartphone. Not that you would recognize it even if you were old enough because they were so bad that nobody wanted one. The iphone was the mitochondrial Eve of smartphones and whatever phone you are using is the legacy of that product, right down to half of the features.

Really?  No phone looked like a modern smartphone before the iPhone?

[public.gettysburg.edu image 590x380]

 You can tell Apple copied it because they look almost nothing alike, and the iPhone came out a month later. Everyone knows you can build a brand new product from the ground up in only a month.


Actually, prototypes of the Prada had been available for months, and the designer of the Prada is quite convinced that Apple ripped him off.

And nothing alike?  Really?  Rounded rectangle, minimal front hard buttons, capacitive touchscreen?  Apple's sued other companies over far less.

The iPhone was a damn impressive piece of kit.  But it really wasn't that original, and the phone landscape probably wouldn't look all that different had it never existed.
 
2013-10-06 08:01:21 PM
So he's cancer free now, huh? Got rid of all his Apple products, did he?
 
2013-10-06 08:02:25 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: And nothing alike? Really? Rounded rectangle, minimal front hard buttons, capacitive touchscreen? Apple's sued other companies over far less.


I'd just like to point out that for all the controversy of who stole from whom and who invented what over the years, rounded rectangles are very clearly a UI innovation introduced by Apple back when drawing rounded rectangles was still hard.  It was even pushed personally by Steve Jobs.

This was also true of the product cases:  Jobs insisted on rounded rectangles in cases, and complained about the low curve radii of the MacIntosh case prototype.

Besides that, rounded flat rectangles were fairly common in wireless phones before the iPhone or this Prada thing, so it's a really tough sell to say that designer A stole it from designer B.
 
2013-10-06 08:44:33 PM

Misconduc: Sounds like we got a apple fanboi all butthurt


Yeah, 'cause exactly zero percent of my post was about Apple. You're ruining it for the decent and thoughtful PC users by sounding like a grade-A f*cktard.
 
2013-10-06 09:32:11 PM
Some amusing delusions and rewriting of history in this thread. That iHater Kool-Aid must be really strong.
 
2013-10-06 10:17:13 PM
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2013-10-06 10:32:17 PM

sendtodave: Russ1642: d23: Wow. Subby is going to hell fo sho.

He turned to alternative magical bullshiat for curing his disease so I'm giving subby a pass.

As opposed to mainstream, scientific cures for cancer.


Yes. There are mainstream, scientific cures for cancer. They aren't 100% effective but they are the pretty much the best option. I have a relative who beat leukemia as a teenager thanks to chemotherapy, and radiation therapy. But you can go on sipping your holy water if it 'gives you hope'.
 
2013-10-06 10:48:56 PM

Xcott: Glockenspiel Hero: And nothing alike? Really? Rounded rectangle, minimal front hard buttons, capacitive touchscreen? Apple's sued other companies over far less.

I'd just like to point out that for all the controversy of who stole from whom and who invented what over the years, rounded rectangles are very clearly a UI innovation introduced by Apple back when drawing rounded rectangles was still hard.  It was even pushed personally by Steve Jobs.

This was also true of the product cases:  Jobs insisted on rounded rectangles in cases, and complained about the low curve radii of the MacIntosh case prototype.

Besides that, rounded flat rectangles were fairly common in wireless phones before the iPhone or this Prada thing, so it's a really tough sell to say that designer A stole it from designer B.


It's hard to tell if you're serious.
 
2013-10-06 11:16:47 PM

Shakin_Haitian: It's hard to tell if you're serious.


Obviously I'm lying.  I always back up my lies with citations.
 
2013-10-07 10:14:05 AM
My dad passed away on the same day as Steve Jobs. So every year for the next God-knows-how-many years, I'm going to be (metaphorically) smacked upside the head with reminders like this.
 
2013-10-07 11:42:27 AM
Have we really gotten 100 posts in without anyone mentioning that apple still makes COMPUTERS!?

/still love my apple laptops

//can't stand iOS for the closed system.
///Galaxy S4...solid phone with perfect sized screen. +free tethering apps +flash for firstrowsports
 
2013-10-07 12:59:18 PM
He smells better, too.
 
2013-10-07 01:43:33 PM

Longtime Lurker: Have we really gotten 100 posts in without anyone mentioning that apple still makes COMPUTERS!?

/still love my apple laptops

//can't stand iOS for the closed system.
///Galaxy S4...solid phone with perfect sized screen. +free tethering apps +flash for firstrowsports


I went to see Gravity over the weekend, and one of the pre-show ads in the theater was for the upcoming Macbook Pro release.
 
2013-10-07 01:58:35 PM

Cybernetic: My dad passed away on the same day as Steve Jobs. So every year for the next God-knows-how-many years, I'm going to be (metaphorically) smacked upside the head with reminders like this.


I know the feeling.  My Dad happened to check out the same time as Princess Diana.  Sorry for your loss but the public moves on and quits reminding you about it pretty quickly.  Give it another couple of years and they won't be saying Jobs in the same breath as Apple anymore.
 
2013-10-07 02:18:59 PM
///Galaxy S4...solid phone with perfect sized screen. +free tethering apps +flash for firstrowsports

Cheap plastic that I've heard doesn't always even fit together seamlessly, versus aluminum and glass?
Screen size is debatable. I have an iPad for reading and browsing.
Tethering is built into the OS.
Flash is dead.

//Alls I'm sayin.
 
2013-10-07 04:58:27 PM
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