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2013-10-06 08:05:54 AM
Before anyone tries to blame this on being some touchy-feeling, liberal thing, it's Grand Rapids, MI area.  Incredibly right leaning on that side of the state.  In addition, I'm a libby lib from the east side of the state and think this is completely stupid.
 
2013-10-06 08:14:33 AM
The sooner my children learns that being in a pack is more beneficial in life the better.

Speaking softly and holding a big stick within the pack  ... that's another lesson.
 
2013-10-06 08:15:54 AM
And the push-back to free-range child rearing begins.
 
2013-10-06 08:16:37 AM
Who will join the American war machine in the future?
 
2013-10-06 08:18:24 AM

Shadowknight: Before anyone tries to blame this on being some touchy-feeling, liberal thing, it's Grand Rapids, MI area.  Incredibly right leaning on that side of the state.  In addition, I'm a libby lib from the east side of the state and think this is completely stupid.


Yeah, because even in Red Statestm, teachers are known for their right wing tendencies.,  Especially Kindergarten teachers.  How do NEA political contributions tend to go again?

Anyway, this is retarded.
 
2013-10-06 08:20:48 AM
"Before anyone tries to blame this on being some touchy-feeling, liberal thing, it's Grand Rapids, MI area. Incredibly right leaning on that side of the state. In addition, I'm a libby lib from the east side of the state and think this is completely stupid."

3.649/10. I knocked it down due to you blaming righty while admitting to being a lefty. It's society's fault. Oh, and not enough snark. You could have a least blamed congress.
 
2013-10-06 08:22:01 AM
No, they didn't. The kids were playing too roughly and they stopped it. The same thing happened when I was in school during the age of dinosaurs. It was also the same when all of you were in school.

But, whatever. It's hard to feel like you're waaaaay tougher than kindergartners today when you have to work with facts like that.
 
2013-10-06 08:23:38 AM
Can we ban packs of feral children from shopping centers and streets as well?
 
2013-10-06 08:24:46 AM
Sounds about right...
 Most young boys really ARE little more than a cross between violent chimpanzees and a wolf-pack anyway.


/The Lord of the Flies was a documentary, not a work of fiction
 
2013-10-06 08:27:02 AM
Don't ban the tag, find the miscreants who turned it into a violent game.  Don't punish everyone for the sins of a few. Horrible lesson to teach at the K level.
 
2013-10-06 08:27:25 AM
Yeah we're on the right track. The more we don't allow kids to get hurt, the more pussified they become. The more pussified they are, the easier are they to manipulate. When they grow up, they won't be able to stand up for themselves and fight for their rights. Companies will start lowering their wages and they will be too terrified to speak up. Then the government will slowly take away their rights and all they could do is say "Well, somebody else will fix this for us!"

What a disgusting future.
 
2013-10-06 08:27:33 AM

devildog123: Shadowknight: Before anyone tries to blame this on being some touchy-feeling, liberal thing, it's Grand Rapids, MI area.  Incredibly right leaning on that side of the state.  In addition, I'm a libby lib from the east side of the state and think this is completely stupid.

Yeah, because even in Red Statestm, teachers are known for their right wing tendencies.,  Especially Kindergarten teachers.  How do NEA political contributions tend to go again?

Anyway, this is retarded.




Largest union in the country.
 
2013-10-06 08:30:37 AM
My kid's school banned tag. The kids just came up with "shadow tag" instead.
 
2013-10-06 08:31:44 AM

bigworld2000: Don't ban the tag


They didn't, the school just has poor communications skills.

The kids were rough-housing too much, they stopped it and explained how to interact appropriately, now they're monitoring for continued inappropriate behavior.

But one whiny attention whore ran straight to the media instead of seeking clarification from the school so here we are.
 
2013-10-06 08:32:37 AM
When I was a kid we called it Smear the Queer.
 
2013-10-06 08:35:30 AM
Does the principal have stock in diabetes meds or something?
 
2013-10-06 08:35:51 AM

skozlaw: bigworld2000: Don't ban the tag

They didn't, the school just has poor communications skills.

The kids were rough-housing too much, they stopped it and explained how to interact appropriately, now they're monitoring for continued inappropriate behavior.

But one whiny attention whore ran straight to the media instead of seeking clarification from the school so here we are.


What really happened was the one kid who used the game as an excuse to beat up other kids, went home and cried to his parents that he couldn't "Play Tag" anymore, because he couldn't use it as an excuse to beat up on other kids anymore, and the parents contacted the media because their little angel would never use a game as an excuse to harm other children.
 
2013-10-06 08:36:08 AM
Kids have gone feral.  Best advice: Stay the Fark away.
 
2013-10-06 08:39:46 AM
Children should avoid Bad Company.
 
2013-10-06 08:41:15 AM
This is another example of policy replacing poor teaching. If you cannot redirect the behavior of children playing tag, you should be working retail.
 
2013-10-06 08:42:10 AM

Agrees with the school's new policy:

 img.photobucket.com

 
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2013-10-06 08:42:36 AM

berylman: Kids have gone feral.  Best advice: Stay the Fark away.


How is it that such a large part of the population forgets childhood when they hit 21?

I'm 40 this year.  Kids were feral when I was growing up, too.
 
2013-10-06 08:43:09 AM
If not for recess I wold have exploded as a child. Telling me to go outside and not run.... hell, I was never even charged, let alone convicted so why the hell was I there?
 
2013-10-06 08:48:27 AM
Every day, every single day, I thank myself that I do not work in the school system anymore. I still go by and flip off some of the schools I used to work at. And to think that I used to like kids. I still do, actually. It's the people in charge of them that worry me.

/and now they don't worry me either.
 
2013-10-06 08:50:57 AM
Running around outside?  The horror!  Get back inside and play violent video games, you're behind on your hours quota for GTA5.
 
2013-10-06 08:52:44 AM

bighairyguy: And the push-back to free-range child rearing begins.


But free range children get stringy when you try to eat them.
 
2013-10-06 08:54:12 AM

bighairyguy: Running around outside?  The horror!  Get back inside and play violent video games, you're behind on your hours quota for GTA5.


Hey at least this way hen some eventually freak out there will be somthing specific to blame. We all win. Yeah. Freedoms.
 
2013-10-06 08:54:16 AM
No running? No games of tag? Bah! I say they should teach them to hunt in packs; like wolves!

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2011/01/wolves.html
 
2013-10-06 08:55:43 AM

Shadowknight: Before anyone tries to blame this on being some touchy-feeling, liberal thing, it's Grand Rapids, MI area.  Incredibly right leaning on that side of the state.  In addition, I'm a libby lib from the east side of the state and think this is completely stupid.


It is precisely because this area is populated by real 'mericans that tag and running in groups is being banned.  The locals think running, having fun and being trim is just unpatriotic, the tots should be watching fox news and drinking their 72 oz - F-U Bloommy- like real adults.
 
WGJ
2013-10-06 08:59:18 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
Approved recess activity
 
2013-10-06 08:59:49 AM
Running in packs like wild animals will eventually evolve them into running down and tying up the teachers for their lunch.

Good move.
 
2013-10-06 09:02:57 AM
The photo in that article is a mockery of a real playground. Where do you go to mope on the swings?
 
2013-10-06 09:07:26 AM

GreenSun: Yeah we're on the right track. The more we don't allow kids to get hurt, the more pussified they become. The more pussified they are, the easier are they to manipulate. When they grow up, they won't be able to stand up for themselves and fight for their rights. Companies will start lowering their wages and they will be too terrified to speak up. Then the government will slowly take away their rights and all they could do is say "Well, somebody else will fix this for us!"

What a disgusting future.


Future?  We're already there.
 
2013-10-06 09:07:51 AM
"Our concerns are based out of care and safety for each child," they wrote. "Yesterday we took the entire kindergarten group and modeled the correct expectations for appropriate recess behavior and demonstrated examples of safe, fun play."


No.... their concern is based on concern over liability and is the direct result of their laziness in correcting the actual potentially injurious behavior instead of eliminating the context in which it might occur.
 
2013-10-06 09:12:29 AM

skozlaw: bigworld2000: Don't ban the tag

They didn't, the school just has poor communications skills.


Did they also miscommunicate the ban on "running in packs" which is an integral part of tag?
 
2013-10-06 09:15:04 AM
Kids play tag.
Kids get too wound while playing tag.
Kids play rough, kids get hurt.
Teachers say, "Look, if you can't play tag responsibly, you can't play tag at all."
OUTRAGE.
 
2013-10-06 09:18:19 AM

GreenSun: Yeah we're on the right track. The more we don't allow kids to get hurt, the more pussified they become. The more pussified they are, the easier are they to manipulate. When they grow up, they won't be able to stand up for themselves and fight for their rights. Companies will start lowering their wages and they will be too terrified to speak up. Then the government will slowly take away their rights and all they could do is say "Well, somebody else will fix this for us!"

What a disgusting future.


Ahhhh, there's the post I was looking for! So glad you contributed, with your dizzying intellect. No doubt you feel very empowered for having posted this.

Get back to us when you're legally responsible for the safety of several hundred children, and then tell me what you would do to keep all the kids safe.

Anyone who thinks educational decisions are some sort of massive conspiracy has never worked in a school before. It's really just 20-30 adults trying to keep everyone from getting killed (and therefore keeping your job, and not getting sued), and hoping that they actually learned something along the way.
 
2013-10-06 09:24:03 AM

Shadowknight: Before anyone tries to blame this on being some touchy-feeling, liberal thing, it's Grand Rapids, MI area.  Incredibly right leaning on that side of the state.  In addition, I'm a libby lib from the east side of the state and think this is completely stupid.


I'm (partially) Dutch, and have some "Christian Reformed" relatives there. From what I've seen, I'm thinking most of the the political & religious nutjobs from the Netherlands mass-migrated to that state back in the 1800's....

/ may explain why the Netherlands has a reputation for being tolerant; everyone that wasn't moved over to the US...
 
2013-10-06 09:34:36 AM

Confabulat: The photo in that article is a mockery of a real playground. Where do you go to mope on the swings?


Swings are banned... They are dangerous, children could fall and break an arm or the chains could be removed and used for weapons.
 
2013-10-06 09:35:55 AM
Smear the queer still legal.
 
2013-10-06 09:37:40 AM

GreenSun: Yeah we're on the right track. The more we don't allow kids to get hurt, the more pussified they become. The more pussified they are, the easier are they to manipulate. When they grow up, they won't be able to stand up for themselves and fight for their rights. Companies will start lowering their wages and they will be too terrified to speak up. Then the government will slowly take away their rights and all they could do is say "Well, somebody else will fix this for us!"

What a disgusting future.


My daughter is an adult now, but I'm curious to learn if my 8 y/o granddaughter has to deal with this kind of bullshiat.
 
2013-10-06 09:48:23 AM

bighairyguy: Running around outside?  The horror!  Get back inside and play violent video games, you're behind on your hours quota for GTA5.


Recess is a time for kids to expel all the excess energy they have. Make them stand around = no energy burned.

Kid with too much energy = hyperactive kid.

Hyperactive kid = trip to dr. For the magic pill

Magic pill = easier to control kid

It's freaking bullshiat. Let the little beasts run out their energy.

So:
A: outlaw "rough" games
B: diagnose kids with too much energy as ADHD
C: get kid on meds
D: profit!
 
2013-10-06 09:50:42 AM
basementrejects.com

Children running in packs?  Tell me more.
 
2013-10-06 09:54:41 AM
After the unfortunate freeze-tag incident at the end of the school year, I can see why.

/Seeing that poor little skeleton when we returned to school was heartbreaking. Why oh why couldn't he have been unfrozen?
 
2013-10-06 10:07:06 AM
Kids managed to survive playing games like this since prehistory, I think now that we have superior medical knowledge, this is exactly not the time to decide to play it safe.
 
2013-10-06 10:10:35 AM

skozlaw: No, they didn't. The kids were playing too roughly and they stopped it. The same thing happened when I was in school during the age of dinosaurs. It was also the same when all of you were in school.

But, whatever. It's hard to feel like you're waaaaay tougher than kindergartners today when you have to work with facts like that.


We had a lot of games banned at school for the same reason. Football, soccer and rugby, just to name a few. The most surprising ban was four square. That game somehow turned into a brawl everyday at recess.
 
2013-10-06 10:24:29 AM
"We want our children to treat each other with respect, kindness, and with safety in mind," said Ginger Smith, community relations manager for Zeeland Public Schools, on Friday.

Please, think of the

s23.postimg.org
 
2013-10-06 10:27:19 AM

AndreMA: Did they also miscommunicate the ban on "running in packs" which is an integral part of tag?


You people desperately need to fine tune your bullshiat detectors, so that when someone like submitter posts bullshiat like this you can sniff it out and do 5 seconds of your own work to get the real story.

ONE teacher sent home a letter without telling anybody else. The school clarified after ONE parent ran to the media crying about it. ZERO parents complained to the school.

There is no ban on tag at this school. The kids were roughhousing too much and now the teachers are monitoring them to make sure they're playing appropriately.

You people are gullible mooks and Drew and the admins play you like a fiddle.
 
2013-10-06 10:40:57 AM
This is your playground aides not being trained properly. If you can't see a bad situation developing in time to handle it, and administer the appropriate punishment, then you're not doing it right. Within a couple weeks, you know who the kids are that you have to watch, and as long as you know what they're up to, you can nip any problems in the bud.  No need to ban tag and chasing games for everyone.  They're an integral form of play and development.

/kindergarten aide
 
2013-10-06 10:42:44 AM

skozlaw: AndreMA: Did they also miscommunicate the ban on "running in packs" which is an integral part of tag?

You people desperately need to fine tune your bullshiat detectors, so that when someone like submitter posts bullshiat like this you can sniff it out and do 5 seconds of your own work to get the real story.

ONE teacher sent home a letter without telling anybody else. The school clarified after ONE parent ran to the media crying about it. ZERO parents complained to the school.

There is no ban on tag at this school. The kids were roughhousing too much and now the teachers are monitoring them to make sure they're playing appropriately.

You people are gullible mooks and Drew and the admins play you like a fiddle.


Your well reasoned clear sanity has no place in this site daemon! Git begone!
 
2013-10-06 10:49:09 AM
And this is why one day a foreign power will invade and take over our nation, because we are raising generations of wimps.
 
2013-10-06 10:49:14 AM

Tom_Slick: skozlaw: bigworld2000: Don't ban the tag

They didn't, the school just has poor communications skills.

The kids were rough-housing too much, they stopped it and explained how to interact appropriately, now they're monitoring for continued inappropriate behavior.

But one whiny attention whore ran straight to the media instead of seeking clarification from the school so here we are.

What really happened was the one kid who used the game as an excuse to beat up other kids, went home and cried to his parents that he couldn't "Play Tag" anymore, because he couldn't use it as an excuse to beat up on other kids anymore, and the parents contacted the media because their little angel would never use a game as an excuse to harm other children.


This.
 
2013-10-06 11:15:14 AM
When I was in school we'd run around at recess pretending that our teachers had been replaced by aliens and we had to kill the aliens to prevent them from taking over the Earth. Man that was fun.
Now that's probably banned for "inciting violence".
 
2013-10-06 11:29:31 AM
This is what happens when you let lawyers free in a society.

Always happens in these three steps:

Fun is located.
People who have fun are sued.
All fun is outlawed to prevent lawsuits.

The solution is to ban or limit the caste of lawyers and regularly excise the law books of excess legislation.
 
2013-10-06 11:37:12 AM
Good

One step closer to my master plan for mandatory shock collars
 
2013-10-06 12:24:27 PM
Pulled my 6th grader out of a school last year that 1) had an extreme number of ADHD children all in the same class 2) decided that the best way to punish the children who could/would not behave was to make them sit out their whopping 20 mins of recess as punishment and then 3) wondered why the class could not make proficient scores on their annual reading and math exams (with the exception of MY son who missed only one question on the entire test.)  Reason I pulled him?  I was afraid the stupidity of the adults in question was contagious and decided we were better off in a district that knew WTF they were doing rather than the small school full of fail!

IF kids are misbehaving at that level...don't make them be still and extra 20 mins a day, make them run LAPS. You'll see a child that "can't sit still" learn how to keep his ass in a chair if he's nice and tired.
 
2013-10-06 12:24:44 PM
Our elementary school doesn't allow "chase games" in the yard, either ... the paved, road-rash-your-face-when-you-fall yard. Kids still find a way to break their arms and smash teeth and draw blood. I don't think any parents have complained about the rule. And we parents grew up with freaking LAWN DARTS, fer God's sake. How did we not skewer each other by the millions...

mentalfloss.com
 
2013-10-06 12:46:23 PM
Thank you skozlaw for your update of the actual situation.

They didn't, the school just has "http://www.woodtv.com/news/local/ottawa-county/letter-enforces-no-tag -policy-at-zeeland-elementary-school".

The kids were rough-housing too much, they stopped it and explained how to interact appropriately, now they're monitoring for continued inappropriate behavior.

But one whiny attention whore ran straight to the media instead of seeking clarification from the school so here we are.


I was just getting ready for an epic rant about how our kids are being turned into vegetables when I spotted your link. Tag isn't banned, it's just that inappropriately violent behavior during the game is.

(Sigh.) No need for a rant now.
 
2013-10-06 12:56:10 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: Shadowknight: Before anyone tries to blame this on being some touchy-feeling, liberal thing, it's Grand Rapids, MI area.  Incredibly right leaning on that side of the state.  In addition, I'm a libby lib from the east side of the state and think this is completely stupid.

I'm (partially) Dutch, and have some "Christian Reformed" relatives there. From what I've seen, I'm thinking most of the the political & religious nutjobs from the Netherlands mass-migrated to that state back in the 1800's....

/ may explain why the Netherlands has a reputation for being tolerant; everyone that wasn't moved over to the US...


Allow me to be surprised as usual that a country who codifies freedom of religion in their founding document has a lot of super religious people in it.
 
2013-10-06 12:59:44 PM

skozlaw: No, they didn't. The kids were playing too roughly and they stopped it. The same thing happened when I was in school during the age of dinosaurs. It was also the same when all of you were in school.

But, whatever. It's hard to feel like you're waaaaay tougher than kindergartners today when you have to work with facts like that.


I don't know.  I bet I could beat one up if it was a fair fight.
 
2013-10-06 01:58:34 PM
Tragedy today, as former President Gerald Ford was eaten by kindergartners. He was delicious.
 
2013-10-06 02:08:07 PM

StopLurkListen: Our elementary school doesn't allow "chase games" in the yard, either ... the paved, road-rash-your-face-when-you-fall yard. Kids still find a way to break their arms and smash teeth and draw blood. I don't think any parents have complained about the rule. And we parents grew up with freaking LAWN DARTS, fer God's sake. How did we not skewer each other by the millions...


Although lawn dart related brain damage would explain congress.
 
2013-10-06 02:12:30 PM

berylman: Kids have gone feral.  Best advice: Stay the Fark away.


Double tap.
 
2013-10-06 02:20:04 PM

FloydA: I don't know. I bet I could beat one up if it was a fair fight.


howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com
 
2013-10-06 02:26:49 PM
Sadly, the Jerry Springer/Walmart/Big Gulp generation is out-breeding the normal kids of yesteryear.  Speaking as a public school teacher, I advocate banning all academics and focus on how not to be a POS-bucket-of-pus like 90% of the parents whose savage spawn dominate our public classrooms.  The rapture/bird flu/zombie apocalypse can't some soon enough to thin our farking herd.
 
2013-10-06 05:23:24 PM
GET PIGGY!
 
2013-10-06 10:50:20 PM
When I was in middle school they banned "murder ball".  So we called it "dodge ball" and kept on playing.
 
2013-10-07 06:52:29 AM

FloydA: skozlaw: No, they didn't. The kids were playing too roughly and they stopped it. The same thing happened when I was in school during the age of dinosaurs. It was also the same when all of you were in school.

But, whatever. It's hard to feel like you're waaaaay tougher than kindergartners today when you have to work with facts like that.

I don't know.  I bet I could beat one up if it was a fair fight.




cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-07 06:53:57 AM

OothaWatha: Sadly, the Jerry Springer/Walmart/Big Gulp generation is out-breeding the normal kids of yesteryear.  Speaking as a public school teacher, I advocate banning all academics and focus on how not to be a POS-bucket-of-pus like 90% of the parents whose savage spawn dominate our public classrooms.  The rapture/bird flu/zombie apocalypse can't some soon enough to thin our farking herd.


Can't some soon enough, indeed.
 
2013-10-07 09:17:49 AM

vodka: When I was in middle school they banned "murder ball".  So we called it "dodge ball" and kept on playing.


Our sadistic gym teacher had a game called "rabbit" where he would pick out a kid he didn't like and had him run back and forth like an arcade shooting game and everyone else threw dodge balls at him.
It was cool when he picked a kid with glasses and the glasses would go flying off with a good head shot.
 
2013-10-07 09:37:39 AM

Deep Contact: vodka: When I was in middle school they banned "murder ball".  So we called it "dodge ball" and kept on playing.

Our sadistic gym teacher had a game called "rabbit" where he would pick out a kid he didn't like and had him run back and forth like an arcade shooting game and everyone else threw dodge balls at him.
It was cool when he picked a kid with glasses and the glasses would go flying off with a good head shot.




We had "A"s up for that.
 
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