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2013-10-05 06:48:51 PM

Dallymo: ginandbacon: "Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid, the joint state-federal health insurance plan for people with low income and children who are not covered."

*sigh*

*blink*
*blink*

*blink*

I...


He's the one who says that he doesn't think government has a role in healthcare. Yes, the guy with 10 kids on Medicaid.
 
2013-10-05 06:49:05 PM

HempHead: pueblonative: "I don't think that the government should be involved in health care or health insurance," says Greg Collett, a 41-year-old software developer in Caldwell, Idaho, who would rather pay the fine for now -- $95 the first year -- than signup.

unless this guy's making $9500/year writing software (maybe school assignments on vDesk or something) sounds like he's in for a rude surprise.

He's correct, the fine for the first year is $95.


His logic (like yours) is faulty.

The penalty for 2014 is $95 or 1% of your income, whichever is greater. So unless he makes $9,500 a year, he's going to be paying more than $95.
 
2013-10-05 06:51:07 PM

vartian: swaniefrmreddeer: ER's are going to have to deny treatment to anybody without health insurance. Maybe this whole death panel thing isn't actually that bad of an idea, if you could have been insured and chose not to be, then you're on your own. The boot-strap crowd can get all boot-strappy with their own emergency medical care.

Hoban Washburne: I would hope that each of these assholes has a catastrophic health issue, but then they'd still get healthcare and just pass the costs on to the rest of us.

Coco LaFemme: Maybe the lesson to be learned here is not to breed like the human race is dying out when you can't properly take care of all your spawnlings.  The United States is not an agrarian society anymore, we don't need people having 10+ children to make sure there's enough manual labor for the farms.

A wish for denial of treatment, Invoking of untreated sickness and a call for child limitation. This is not a fun thread.


Yeah, the Republican position on health care is disgusting.
 
2013-10-05 06:51:20 PM

Daniels: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: Daniels: likefunbutnot: I'm the libbiest lib ever, but it makes no rational sense for me to accept ACA coverage. I work for a very small business that is exempted from pretty much all employment law in the first place, so there's no mandate to provide or subsidize coverage; and I make too much money to be given any federal subsidy for my premiums. For me to enroll in a bronze-level plan, I'm looking at monthly premiums that cost about 9.5% of my income to get 60% coverage. In 14 of the last 15 years, my health care costs have been $0 and coincidentally, I've been saving around 10% of my monthly income for the last eight or nine years. If I accept coverage, I'm looking at living paycheck to paycheck in order to have insurance that I'm not going to be using (and if  I do, the plan I'd be getting would only cover 60% of expenses) when I could be using that money to save for a home or a car or something other than letting an insurance executive make a yacht payment.

I really want to hold out for single payer. The deal I'm getting is a huge shiat sandwich.

No no.  It's excellent legislation -- which was not at all a handout to the health insurance industry -- that must be defended at all costs because we had to do SOMETHING~!

I think what dipshiat meant to say is: While you personally do not benefit from the new healthcare law, is the extra burden worth it for your less fortunate neighbors to have access to healthcare where they previously wouldn't?

No.  I meant exactly what I said.  I'm pro single-payer.  It was garbage when it was passed and it's garbage now.  Only now dipshiats are pretending it's not garbage when it pushed back what we actually need to do 30-50 more years.


We have insane farkers who are willing to shut down the government over a heavily compromised plan.  What possibility do you actually think there is of getting anything even close to single-payer in place with them around?!  This is the first step.  We've already waited for far, far too long to take that step.
 
2013-10-05 06:51:30 PM

Coco LaFemme: ginandbacon: "Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid, the joint state-federal health insurance plan for people with low income and children who are not covered."

*sigh*

Maybe the lesson to be learned here is not to breed like the human race is dying out when you can't properly take care of all your spawnlings.  The United States is not an agrarian society anymore, we don't need people having 10+ children to make sure there's enough manual labor for the farms.


I think this butthook is also running for state legislature.  Seems like the same guy...
 
2013-10-05 06:52:35 PM

likefunbutnot: Karac: And you know that ... how?

14 out of the last 15 years, I've had zero medical expenses. I'm at low risk for developing chronic health issues over the next five years and the most likely way that I would be injured is in an automobile accident, in which case my car insurance would provide coverage.





LOL! You have never talked to someone injured in an automobile accident thatdidn't have health insurance have you?
You can hit that $30k per accident per person maximum in one visit to the ER after a not very serious accident.

When the hospital finds out you have no insurance they will move you to county poor folks hospital.

And then start sending you the bills.
 
2013-10-05 06:53:32 PM

gaspode: Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid


I don't wish DIAF on anyone as a rule, but here is what he feels is not worth insuring:

www.gregcollettforidaho.com
 
2013-10-05 06:54:20 PM
"I don't think that the government should be involved in health care or health insurance," says Greg Collett, a 41-year-old software developer in Caldwell, Idaho, who would rather pay the fine for now -- $95 the first year -- than signup.

He's exactly the right age bracket for a death blow heart attack. Just about 37 to 43 yo is when they start dropping.

//died unexpectedly
//died suddenly
 
2013-10-05 06:55:07 PM

The Dynamite Monkey: Coco LaFemme: ginandbacon: "Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid, the joint state-federal health insurance plan for people with low income and children who are not covered."

*sigh*

Maybe the lesson to be learned here is not to breed like the human race is dying out when you can't properly take care of all your spawnlings.  The United States is not an agrarian society anymore, we don't need people having 10+ children to make sure there's enough manual labor for the farms.

I think this butthook is also running for state legislature.  Seems like the same guy...


Figures.
 
2013-10-05 06:59:03 PM

HOOBOY!: HempHead: LOL! You have never talked to someone injured in an automobile accident thatdidn't have health insurance have you?
You can hit that $30k per accident per person maximum in one visit to the ER after a not very serious accident.

When the hospital finds out you have no insurance they will move you to county poor folks hospital.

And then start sending you the bills.

I was in the ICU for 2 weeks. $300,000. $30K didn't cover the Tylenol they gave me.


It's always shocking when you see the ambulance bill, and that farker just got you to the hospital.
 
2013-10-05 06:59:33 PM

The Dynamite Monkey: gaspode: Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid

I don't wish DIAF on anyone as a rule, but here is what he feels is not worth insuring:

[www.gregcollettforidaho.com image 200x245]


Wow, scanning over the rest of this douchebag's site and then keeping that whole 'too poor for ten kids but had them any ways and getting gov hand outs left, right & center to cover for that' would spin his campaign right into the ground.

Anyone living in Idaho should be wary of this asshole.
 
2013-10-05 07:02:32 PM
The good news for Mr. Collett is that he can get his kids out from under Medicaid's thumb for only $285.  From healthcare.gov:

In 2014 the fee for uninsured children is $47.50 per child. The most a family would have to pay in 2014 is $285.

It's important to remember that someone who pays the fee won't get any health insurance coverage. They still will be responsible for 100% of the cost of their medical care.


$475 worth of government-free kids for only $285!
 
2013-10-05 07:04:21 PM

likefunbutnot: Karac: And you know that ... how?

14 out of the last 15 years, I've had zero medical expenses. I'm at low risk for developing chronic health issues over the next five years and the most likely way that I would be injured is in an automobile accident, in which case my car insurance would provide coverage.

I don't think it makes rational sense for me to pay slightly more than half what I pay to have a home each month for the right to 60% off coupon of expenses that I will either not use at all *or* will still be so vastly expensive that I will be bankrupted after care has been provided.


It's not always the chronic conditions that get you.  The bill the hospital sent our insurance company for my husband's appendectomy was $25,000.  That was just the hospital alone.  Not exactly something you can plan on.
 
2013-10-05 07:06:43 PM
GOP voters putting themselves in a position where they're more likely to die early?

i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-10-05 07:07:23 PM

www.gregcollettforidaho.com

Greg Collett, running for State Rep in Idaho.



That's right, programmer who can't afford all his kids wants to decide on the fate of yours.
 
2013-10-05 07:09:16 PM

likefunbutnot: I'm the libbiest lib ever, but it makes no rational sense for me to accept ACA coverage. I work for a very small business that is exempted from pretty much all employment law in the first place, so there's no mandate to provide or subsidize coverage; and I make too much money to be given any federal subsidy for my premiums. For me to enroll in a bronze-level plan, I'm looking at monthly premiums that cost about 9.5% of my income to get 60% coverage. In 14 of the last 15 years, my health care costs have been $0 and coincidentally, I've been saving around 10% of my monthly income for the last eight or nine years. If I accept coverage, I'm looking at living paycheck to paycheck in order to have insurance that I'm not going to be using (and if  I do, the plan I'd be getting would only cover 60% of expenses) when I could be using that money to save for a home or a car or something other than letting an insurance executive make a yacht payment.

I really want to hold out for single payer. The deal I'm getting is a huge shiat sandwich.


That's 60% of expenses up to a ceiling (around 10k but varies IIRC) by the way, so if you have any large expenses you're not paying 40%. people get this wrong a lot it seems.
 
2013-10-05 07:10:00 PM

HOOBOY!: vrax: HOOBOY!: HempHead: LOL! You have never talked to someone injured in an automobile accident thatdidn't have health insurance have you?
You can hit that $30k per accident per person maximum in one visit to the ER after a not very serious accident.

When the hospital finds out you have no insurance they will move you to county poor folks hospital.

And then start sending you the bills.

I was in the ICU for 2 weeks. $300,000. $30K didn't cover the Tylenol they gave me.

It's always shocking when you see the ambulance bill, and that farker just got you to the hospital.

I live about 3 miles from the hospital. $1800 and we didn't even hit a drive thru.


I mean, I'm thankful as anything for our first responders, but when you see the itemization on those bills, it's just absurd.  It's like the Army procured those bandages at the same time as their golden toilet seats or something.
 
2013-10-05 07:10:24 PM

vudutek: I think the Dems should go ahead and give up the individual mandate, totally.
But.... with a caveat. A big one.
Anyone that opts out, needs to be totally out. No insurance at all. You want to be a boostrappy individualist, you pay 100% for all care. No exceptions. And just like student loans, no discharge through bankruptcy.

All right, Randians, time to put up or shut up.

 
2013-10-05 07:14:20 PM

vpb: "I calculated it out and it is cheaper for me for the next four years to pay the fine rather than get coverage," Collett said. "At some point where it would make financial sense to pay for insurance rather than pay fines, I will make the decision from a financial standpoint."

Yes, being a freeloader is usualy cheaper.  Getting all the benefits of living in a developed country while not paying taxes would probably save you some cash too.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_ La bor_Act
time to repeal this act
and let this asshole die next time he needs ER treatment
or at least ream him for every penny left to his name
 
2013-10-05 07:16:08 PM

BumpInTheNight: [www.gregcollettforidaho.com image 157x220]Greg Collett, running for State Rep in Idaho.


That's right, programmer who can't afford all his kids wants to decide on the fate of yours.


THAT guy has known the touch of an actual woman?
 
2013-10-05 07:18:21 PM

Craptastic: BumpInTheNight: [www.gregcollettforidaho.com image 157x220]Greg Collett, running for State Rep in Idaho.


That's right, programmer who can't afford all his kids wants to decide on the fate of yours.

THAT guy has known the touch of an actual woman?


They're all foster children so maybe not.  That concept just raises even more red flags like how does someone who can't afford to insure his kids keep getting allowed to buy more?
 
2013-10-05 07:18:33 PM

BumpInTheNight: [www.gregcollettforidaho.com image 157x220]Greg Collett, running for State Rep in Idaho.


That's right, programmer who can't afford all his kids wants to decide on the fate of yours.



i39.tinypic.com
 
2013-10-05 07:19:10 PM

HOOBOY!: As a husband, father, independent contractor, hobby farmer


As a hobby farmer in Idaho, he pays less real estate tax than his neighbors. How much less? Probably 99% less.

Link

Republicans, here is your poster child.
 
2013-10-05 07:19:29 PM

FloydA: vpb: Hoban Washburne: I would hope that each of these assholes has a catastrophic health issue, but then they'd still get healthcare and just pass the costs on to the rest of us.

That raises an interesting question.

What happens when people get sick, don't have insurance and it isn't an open season?  I guess they get to be the example of why it's stupid to not have insurance?

Sadly, no.  They just go to the ER and get treated, and then when they can't pay, the hospital has to swallow the cost, which they pass on to everyone else.


Every farking thread... every farking one...

THE ER DOES NOT TREAT YOU FOR THINGS THAT ARENT EMERGENCIES!
 
2013-10-05 07:20:26 PM

BumpInTheNight: [www.gregcollettforidaho.com image 157x220]Greg Collett, running for State Rep in Idaho.


That's right, programmer who can't afford all his kids wants to decide on the fate of yours.


Now, to be fair to him, it doesn't appear that he's still running.  He seems to have lost the primary.
But, just to poke fun at this guy with 10 kids on medicaid (a federal/state program), here's one of his quotes from the site
Idaho should not support the food stamp program nor any other welfare program.  It is time to stop the forced redistribution of wealth.  Adding arbitrary requirements to qualify for programs that should not even exist in the first place does not do anything to solve the real problem.
 
2013-10-05 07:20:46 PM
According to his bio, he is a Mormon.  Add more crazy to the fire.
 
2013-10-05 07:25:25 PM

BumpInTheNight: Craptastic: BumpInTheNight: [www.gregcollettforidaho.com image 157x220]Greg Collett, running for State Rep in Idaho.


That's right, programmer who can't afford all his kids wants to decide on the fate of yours.

THAT guy has known the touch of an actual woman?

They're all foster children so maybe not.  That concept just raises even more red flags like how does someone who can't afford to insure his kids keep getting allowed to buy more?


Wait, these are foster children?  What irresponsible government agency is giving him children he can't afford to insure properly?
 
2013-10-05 07:28:10 PM
I expect people who wouldn't be able to pay even a heavily subsidized insurance rate, and still wouldn't be able to scrounge up enough money to pay a copay on a routine doctor's visit...

*checks link*

...oh, of course, it's the smaller percentage of people who could afford it, but are assholes.
 
2013-10-05 07:29:18 PM

HempHead: pueblonative: "I don't think that the government should be involved in health care or health insurance," says Greg Collett, a 41-year-old software developer in Caldwell, Idaho, who would rather pay the fine for now -- $95 the first year -- than signup.

unless this guy's making $9500/year writing software (maybe school assignments on vDesk or something) sounds like he's in for a rude surprise.

He's correct, the fine for the first year is $95.


also the only way the IRS can collect it is by deducting it from a tax refund.
It is part of the obamacare law that they can't garnishee your wages or do any of the usual sort of things they can do for any other debt.
 
2013-10-05 07:32:17 PM

firefly212: Every farking thread... every farking one...

THE ER DOES NOT TREAT YOU FOR THINGS THAT ARENT EMERGENCIES!


Why do you post this when you can easily find that it is false? The ER treats everyone who comes in the door with a problem. More than half of all ER visits are for non-urgent care.

And there is obvious abuse. The Integrated Care Collaboration in Central Texas determined that nine patients accounted for about 2,700 emergency room visits there.
 
2013-10-05 07:32:44 PM

HempHead: pueblonative: "I don't think that the government should be involved in health care or health insurance," says Greg Collett, a 41-year-old software developer in Caldwell, Idaho, who would rather pay the fine for now -- $95 the first year -- than signup.

unless this guy's making $9500/year writing software (maybe school assignments on vDesk or something) sounds like he's in for a rude surprise.

He's correct, the fine for the first year is $95.


No he isn't.

The fine for the first year is $95 or 1% of his income, whichever is greater.  So if he's making $9500 a year he's right.  If he's making any more than that, however, the fine goes up.
 
2013-10-05 07:34:21 PM

firefly212: FloydA: vpb: Hoban Washburne: I would hope that each of these assholes has a catastrophic health issue, but then they'd still get healthcare and just pass the costs on to the rest of us.

That raises an interesting question.

What happens when people get sick, don't have insurance and it isn't an open season?  I guess they get to be the example of why it's stupid to not have insurance?

Sadly, no.  They just go to the ER and get treated, and then when they can't pay, the hospital has to swallow the cost, which they pass on to everyone else.

Every farking thread... every farking one...

THE ER DOES NOT TREAT YOU FOR THINGS THAT ARENT EMERGENCIES!


(Hoping you are joking, but...) LOL!  Tell that to the ER!  I've sat in the ER for hours with people who are there with just about every minor thing your could name.  Our local major ER splits people off into what is essentially an urgent care subgroup for your typical uninsured cold, flu, and boo-boo people, but the intake is exactly the same.  Their load would probably be cut in half if these people had access to your typical primary care physician.
 
2013-10-05 07:34:52 PM

AnEvilGuest: HempHead: pueblonative: "I don't think that the government should be involved in health care or health insurance," says Greg Collett, a 41-year-old software developer in Caldwell, Idaho, who would rather pay the fine for now -- $95 the first year -- than signup.

unless this guy's making $9500/year writing software (maybe school assignments on vDesk or something) sounds like he's in for a rude surprise.

He's correct, the fine for the first year is $95.

also the only way the IRS can collect it is by deducting it from a tax refund.
It is part of the obamacare law that they can't garnishee your wages or do any of the usual sort of things they can do for any other debt.


Also that is true.  However, you know what they can garnish your wages for?  Medical bills.
 
2013-10-05 07:37:22 PM

Karac: likefunbutnot: If I accept coverage, I'm looking at living paycheck to paycheck in order to have insurance that I'm not going to be using

And you know that ... how?


He saw it on the Internet. It was posted by a French model.
 
2013-10-05 07:37:28 PM

Il Douchey: Does it really surprise you that the intended victims of this ponzi scheme aren't eager to be fleeced?


Actually, young fitness nuts are among the demographic least likely to be critical of Obamacare.  You know, liburals.
 
2013-10-05 07:37:45 PM

DigitalCoffee: red5ish: GhostFish: And this guy is a software developer?

He does the cows for Farmville.

There were 10 times where he did the wrong cow.


Okay, there've been a lot of comments about this guy needing condoms and such, and all his kids being on Medicaid, but I just visited his site. As far as I can tell, his kids are either adopted or foster care children -- and if foster care . . . well, they're automatically covered by Medicare.

I'm not white knighting this guy. In fact I wanted to change his Weeners, ""I calculated it out. . . ." to something that more accurately represented his politics: I studied it out. . . .

Family profile, Greg Collett

He's still a moron . . . but he seems to have one or two redeeming qualities.
 
2013-10-05 07:38:17 PM

HOOBOY!: vrax: (Hoping you are joking, but...) LOL! Tell that to the ER! I've sat in the ER for hours with people who are there with just about every minor thing your could name. Our local major ER splits people off into what is essentially an urgent care subgroup for your typical uninsured cold, flu, and boo-boo people, but the intake is exactly the same. Their load would probably be cut in half if these people had access to your typical primary care physician.

Hey, pal. My dry skin WAS an emergency to me.


You know who could have helped with that:

lh3.ggpht.com
 
2013-10-05 07:39:08 PM
The fine is almost the biggest problem I have with all of this.  In my opinion, the fine should be replaced with really shiatty high deductible coverage, so at least people are getting something if they have to pay anyway.
 
2013-10-05 07:42:34 PM

likefunbutnot: Karac: And you know that ... how?

14 out of the last 15 years, I've had zero medical expenses. I'm at low risk for developing chronic health issues over the next five years and the most likely way that I would be injured is in an automobile accident, in which case my car insurance would provide coverage.

I don't think it makes rational sense for me to pay slightly more than half what I pay to have a home each month for the right to 60% off coupon of expenses that I will either not use at all *or* will still be so vastly expensive that I will be bankrupted after care has been provided.


And then BOOM! MRSA

/or a spider bite
//or a slippery wet floor
///or angry bees
////or virtually anything
 
2013-10-05 07:42:40 PM

HOOBOY!: vrax: (Hoping you are joking, but...) LOL! Tell that to the ER! I've sat in the ER for hours with people who are there with just about every minor thing your could name. Our local major ER splits people off into what is essentially an urgent care subgroup for your typical uninsured cold, flu, and boo-boo people, but the intake is exactly the same. Their load would probably be cut in half if these people had access to your typical primary care physician.

Hey, pal. My dry skin WAS an emergency to me.


I'm sorry!  Here..


i44.tinypic.com
 
2013-10-05 07:43:09 PM
Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid, the joint state-federal health insurance plan for people with low income and children who are not covered.

Dude is a parasite plain and simple.
 
2013-10-05 07:44:08 PM

FloydA: "I calculated it out and it is cheaper for me for the next four years to pay the fine rather than get coverage," Collett said.


I calculated that it's cheaper for me not to have car insurance, as long as I am not in an accident.  It's cheaper for me to not have homeowner's insurance, as long as nothing happens to damage my house.  It's cheaper for me to not have health insurance, as long as I don't get sick or injured.

However, I realize those things could happen, so I bought the insurance anyway, to protect me from unexpected tragedies.  That's what insurance is for.  If I do get sick or injured, the money I spent on insurance will be more than offset by the money I save getting my care paid for.

Why is that concept so hard for Republicans to grasp?


It's even more stupid than that. You actually may not get into an accident or have your home burn down, but you will eventually get sick and need to go to a hospital.

Health "insurance" is really a giant misnomer.
 
2013-10-05 07:44:09 PM

The Dynamite Monkey: gaspode: Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid

I don't wish DIAF on anyone as a rule, but here is what he feels is not worth insuring:

[www.gregcollettforidaho.com image 200x245]


In as much of an assclown as this guy is, his kids are covered by Medicaid.  So the only thing he doesn't feel is worth insuring is himself, which. . .well, now that you think about it.


BraveNewCheneyWorld: The fine is almost the biggest problem I have with all of this.  In my opinion, the fine should be replaced with really shiatty high deductible coverage, so at least people are getting something if they have to pay anyway.


In other words, you don't show insurance and you have the funds you get signed up for Medicaid E and the premiums get taken  out of your paycheck.  If you want to get out of it you show proof of insurance and three months paid ahead of time.  That's fine (pardon the pun).  Or, if you want the fine to be effective, make it the median between a silver and gold plan.
 
2013-10-05 07:44:20 PM

Delay: firefly212: Every farking thread... every farking one...

THE ER DOES NOT TREAT YOU FOR THINGS THAT ARENT EMERGENCIES!

Why do you post this when you can easily find that it is false? The ER treats everyone who comes in the door with a problem. More than half of all ER visits are for non-urgent care.

And there is obvious abuse. The Integrated Care Collaboration in Central Texas determined that nine patients accounted for about 2,700 emergency room visits there.


Huey P long medical center ER in Louisiana: as a kid I've been there for sprained wrist, broken arm, and dizziness/fainting. Because we had Medicaid (or w/e the hell covers kids there).

Wait 6 hours before you are seen, yeah, but they still treat you.
 
2013-10-05 07:44:51 PM

Bucky Katt: Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid, the joint state-federal health insurance plan for people with low income and children who are not covered.

Dude is a parasite plain and simple.


Wonder if he's related to that douchebag in Arizona, the polygamist who has 27 kids by three or four women, never works and collects welfare on all of them because Jeezus.
 
2013-10-05 07:46:27 PM

vicioushobbit: Delay: firefly212: Every farking thread... every farking one...

THE ER DOES NOT TREAT YOU FOR THINGS THAT ARENT EMERGENCIES!

Why do you post this when you can easily find that it is false? The ER treats everyone who comes in the door with a problem. More than half of all ER visits are for non-urgent care.

And there is obvious abuse. The Integrated Care Collaboration in Central Texas determined that nine patients accounted for about 2,700 emergency room visits there.

Huey P long medical center ER in Louisiana: as a kid I've been there for sprained wrist, broken arm, and dizziness/fainting. Because we had Medicaid (or w/e the hell covers kids there).

Wait 6 hours before you are seen, yeah, but they still treat you.


I forgot to add the ER visit for appendicitis, where people with SPIDER BITES were seen before my ass.
 
2013-10-05 07:47:25 PM
FTA: "Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid, the joint state-federal health insurance plan for people with low income and children who are not covered."


Also FTA: ""I don't think that the government should be involved in health care or health insurance," says Greg Collett, a 41-year-old software developer in Caldwell, Idaho, who would rather pay the fine for now -- $95 the first year -- than signup."

I read both sentences, then read them again. Then i decided to place my brain in a warm bath, and not think any more for the day.
/f*cking idiots
 
2013-10-05 07:50:06 PM

The Dynamite Monkey: gaspode: Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid

I don't wish DIAF on anyone as a rule, but here is what he feels is not worth insuring:

[www.gregcollettforidaho.com image 200x245]


Okay, you're just being ingenuous . . . obviously you've been to his site (ya got the picture). Did you miss the part about them being adoptive foster kids? Of course they're on Medicaid . . . they are wards of the state.

I've ignored most of the moronic statements others made because it was likely the commenters were unaware of the nature of the relationship between Greg and the kids, but you went to his site and know he didn't sire them.

He may have sired one or two (I think I see an infant), but he didn't sire ten of them.
 
2013-10-05 07:53:32 PM

HammerHeadSnark: The Dynamite Monkey: gaspode: Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid

I don't wish DIAF on anyone as a rule, but here is what he feels is not worth insuring:

[www.gregcollettforidaho.com image 200x245]

Okay, you're just being ingenuous . . . obviously you've been to his site (ya got the picture). Did you miss the part about them being adoptive foster kids? Of course they're on Medicaid . . . they are wards of the state.

I've ignored most of the moronic statements others made because it was likely the commenters were unaware of the nature of the relationship between Greg and the kids, but you went to his site and know he didn't sire them.

He may have sired one or two (I think I see an infant), but he didn't sire ten of them.


So he took in eight other kids without the means to insure them and let the state pick that tab up, rather than free them from the tyranny of gubmn't healthcare?  Is that what you're saying?
 
2013-10-05 07:54:46 PM

HammerHeadSnark: The Dynamite Monkey: gaspode: Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid

I don't wish DIAF on anyone as a rule, but here is what he feels is not worth insuring:

[www.gregcollettforidaho.com image 200x245]

Okay, you're just being ingenuous . . . obviously you've been to his site (ya got the picture). Did you miss the part about them being adoptive foster kids? Of course they're on Medicaid . . . they are wards of the state.

I've ignored most of the moronic statements others made because it was likely the commenters were unaware of the nature of the relationship between Greg and the kids, but you went to his site and know he didn't sire them.

He may have sired one or two (I think I see an infant), but he didn't sire ten of them.


Who cares if they're his biological children or not?  He can't afford to properly insure them, and he keeps getting more and more....like he's collecting Beanie Babies or Pokemon or something.  It makes no difference if he's adopting them or farking his wife into a coma.  If you can't afford to take care of your progeny properly, DON'T HAVE CHILDREN.
 
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