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(Food Republic)   21 years ago, the Food Network was launched, and its originally proposed programming concepts did not include a lineup of preening celebrity chefs or vaguely food-related reality shows   (foodrepublic.com) divider line 97
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2013-10-05 12:54:59 PM  
Just like MTV used to be all about music videos, not guidos and teen moms.
 
2013-10-05 01:01:13 PM  
I miss when Alton brown had a cooking show. That was awesome.
 
2013-10-05 01:19:50 PM  
The Sci-Fi channel wasn't ghost shows and wrestling.

TV Land wasn't 6 classic shows with heavily edited reruns, reality shows, and "original" sitcoms.

The History Channel wasn't all horrible reality shows.

TLC wasn't a televised freakshow.

Networks change, 99% of the time for the worse. AMC was a surprising success in its second life, but their good shows are ending and they're looking to get into the reality market.
 
2013-10-05 02:02:38 PM  

Ambivalence: I miss when Alton brown had a cooking show. That was awesome.


Yeah, I liked Mario Batali's show too. Original Iron Chef. Bobby Flay had a good little show. I even liked "How to boil water." (Although that might have been affected by Jack Hourigan's rack.)

Good times, good times.

Personally, I blame Emeril. It might be a case of "post hoc ergo propter hoc" however that seems to be when things hit the fan.
 
2013-10-05 02:25:04 PM  
Interestingly enough, the word "Money" was not used as an adjective anywhere in that document.  Nor were "off the hook", "Slamma-Jamma", or "Flavortown" anywhere to be found.  Nothing about Guidos, much less Anglo wanna-be Guidos.  Nothing about "Yummo", "Hey kids", or "Ee-Vee-Oh-Oh".  Nothing about a token black couple having sex while cooking.

That can't be Food Network.
 
2013-10-05 02:31:01 PM  
I used to enjoy watching the Food Network quite a few years ago, when it was all cooking shows and stuff like that.  I'd get some interesting recipe ideas from several of the chefs, like Emeril or Michael Chiarello.  Now it's all asstarded reality shows like Sweet Genius, The Great Food Truck Race, and that new show of Alton Brown's that sucks on toast.

I don't get how anyone could screw up cookery programs, but MTV managed to fark up music videos, so I guess not much could be expected.
 
2013-10-05 02:41:26 PM  

Coco LaFemme: that new show of Alton Brown's that sucks on toast


And I didn't think it was possible to make a worse version of Iron Chef.  But damn if they didn't do it, and drag AB into it as well.

I want Good Eats back.  I want recipes back.  I want process shows back.  You know - FOOD shows.  In the middle of all the cooking, I want a good food science show.

But, if wishes were horses...
 
2013-10-05 02:45:30 PM  
I loved the Food Network when it first came out and watched all the time until about ten years ago.

PBS used to be the only network to watch cooking shows before that.
/Loved all the real cooking shows early on.
//Julia Child, Jacques Pépin, Justin Wilson and Paul Prudhomme...  just to name a few
 
2013-10-05 02:48:56 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I want Good Eats back.


I want his science back.
 
2013-10-05 02:52:27 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Benevolent Misanthrope: I want Good Eats back.

I want his science back.


I actually want a Good Eats type show with Shirley Corriher and a geek to be named later.
 
2013-10-05 02:58:09 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: The Sci-Fi channel wasn't ghost shows and wrestling.

TV Land wasn't 6 classic shows with heavily edited reruns, reality shows, and "original" sitcoms.

The History Channel wasn't all horrible reality shows.

TLC wasn't a televised freakshow.

Networks change, 99% of the time for the worse. AMC was a surprising success in its second life, but their good shows are ending and they're looking to get into the reality market.


Remember when A&E aired shows of actual artistic value?

It's hard to believe that the Pride & Prejudice mini series (the one with Colin Firth) actually aired on A&E in America, and not PBS. I used to watch all kinds of BBC shows on A&E, like Silent Witness. I'm pretty disappointed that BBC America seems to be heading more into reality shows, just like all the other channels.
 
2013-10-05 02:58:37 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Coco LaFemme: that new show of Alton Brown's that sucks on toast

And I didn't think it was possible to make a worse version of Iron Chef.  But damn if they didn't do it, and drag AB into it as well.

I want Good Eats back.  I want recipes back.  I want process shows back.  You know - FOOD shows.  In the middle of all the cooking, I want a good food science show.

But, if wishes were horses...


I haven't watched the new Iron Chef....I was actually talking about this new shiat show of his I caught for all of 30 seconds called "Cutthroat Kitchen."  The bit I saw had people giving him money to use a giant ostrich egg in their dish.  It was farking stupid.
 
2013-10-05 03:02:27 PM  
Everything starts out great then sinks to the bottom least common denominator where everyone else but you loves it and you know it sucks because you were there first when it was great.

Then you find a new thing nobody's heard about.
 
2013-10-05 03:04:59 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Benevolent Misanthrope: Coco LaFemme: that new show of Alton Brown's that sucks on toast

And I didn't think it was possible to make a worse version of Iron Chef.  But damn if they didn't do it, and drag AB into it as well.

I want Good Eats back.  I want recipes back.  I want process shows back.  You know - FOOD shows.  In the middle of all the cooking, I want a good food science show.

But, if wishes were horses...

I haven't watched the new Iron Chef....I was actually talking about this new shiat show of his I caught for all of 30 seconds called "Cutthroat Kitchen."  The bit I saw had people giving him money to use a giant ostrich egg in their dish.  It was farking stupid.


Yeah - that's the one I was talking about.  I haven't seen it, but from the trailers I had assumed it was Iron Chef America with more reality TV bullshiat like bribes and "secret challenges".

Oh, Alton - what have they done to ye?
 
2013-10-05 03:19:59 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Shirley Corriher


Thanks for that name, I had to look her up because I had never heard of her before.

/what gives with my cooking mind?
 
2013-10-05 03:25:01 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Benevolent Misanthrope: Shirley Corriher

Thanks for that name, I had to look her up because I had never heard of her before.

/what gives with my cooking mind?


She's the lady with the gray crew cut who was on Good Eats from time to time.  She was Alton Brown's Food Science prof from UGA.  She's also a very nice lady, and a top-notch food scientist.
 
2013-10-05 03:26:58 PM  

gremlindog.com

 
2013-10-05 03:33:41 PM  

johnnieconnie: FirstNationalBastard: The Sci-Fi channel wasn't ghost shows and wrestling.

TV Land wasn't 6 classic shows with heavily edited reruns, reality shows, and "original" sitcoms.

The History Channel wasn't all horrible reality shows.

TLC wasn't a televised freakshow.

Networks change, 99% of the time for the worse. AMC was a surprising success in its second life, but their good shows are ending and they're looking to get into the reality market.

Remember when A&E aired shows of actual artistic value?

It's hard to believe that the Pride & Prejudice mini series (the one with Colin Firth) actually aired on A&E in America, and not PBS. I used to watch all kinds of BBC shows on A&E, like Silent Witness. I'm pretty disappointed that BBC America seems to be heading more into reality shows, just like all the other channels.


The PBS station in DC has a digital subchannel that airs only British programming.

It's what BBC America should be, instead of the Star Trek: TNG/X-Files channel.

/and edited, commercial-filled Doctor Who and Top Gear? Why bother?
 
2013-10-05 03:44:07 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: She's the lady with the gray crew cut who was on Good Eats from time to time. She was Alton Brown's Food Science prof from UGA. She's also a very nice lady, and a top-notch food scientist.


Ahhh.. now I remember her, thanks again. It must be all the stirring I'm doing now with a bolognese sauce from one of Marcella Hazan's cookbooks and not the cheap chianti.
 
2013-10-05 03:47:25 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: johnnieconnie: FirstNationalBastard:

It's what BBC America should be, instead of the Star Trek: TNG/X-Files channel.


Yeah, syndication of those two shows is a head scratcher to me. I don't understand why they don't have more British only shows on that channel.

/and edited, commercial-filled Doctor Who and Top Gear? Why bother?

I always DVR Doctor Who and never watch it 'live' if I can help it. And I really loathe all the Doctor Who 'specials' that air. They are more commercial than content and they seem to contain nothing of interest if you already have the internet.
 
2013-10-05 03:57:56 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I used to enjoy watching the Food Network quite a few years ago, when it was all cooking shows and stuff like that.  I'd get some interesting recipe ideas from several of the chefs, like Emeril or Michael Chiarello.  Now it's all asstarded reality shows like Sweet Genius, The Great Food Truck Race, and that new show of Alton Brown's that sucks on toast.

I don't get how anyone could screw up cookery programs, but MTV managed to fark up music videos, so I guess not much could be expected.


They still have all that stuff, it's just on during the day.  Their primetime programming is all of the Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives, Restaurant Impossible, Chopped stuff.  But during the day it's almost all cooking shows.

To be honest, a lot of those ideas would have been good if not for the internet.  Cookbook Reviews makes a better blog than a weekly show, same with KitchenWare (hell, Alton wrote a book on that one).
 
2013-10-05 04:00:54 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: johnnieconnie: FirstNationalBastard: The Sci-Fi channel wasn't ghost shows and wrestling.

TV Land wasn't 6 classic shows with heavily edited reruns, reality shows, and "original" sitcoms.

The History Channel wasn't all horrible reality shows.

TLC wasn't a televised freakshow.

Networks change, 99% of the time for the worse. AMC was a surprising success in its second life, but their good shows are ending and they're looking to get into the reality market.

Remember when A&E aired shows of actual artistic value?

It's hard to believe that the Pride & Prejudice mini series (the one with Colin Firth) actually aired on A&E in America, and not PBS. I used to watch all kinds of BBC shows on A&E, like Silent Witness. I'm pretty disappointed that BBC America seems to be heading more into reality shows, just like all the other channels.

The PBS station in DC has a digital subchannel that airs only British programming.

It's what BBC America should be, instead of the Star Trek: TNG/X-Files channel.

/and edited, commercial-filled Doctor Who and Top Gear? Why bother?


Because BBC America isn't government-funded like the BBC and they have to make money somehow?  And I don't think the episodes are edited at all.  A 42-minute episode still fits into a 60-minute timeslot with commercials.
 
2013-10-05 04:16:50 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: TV Land wasn't 6 classic shows with heavily edited reruns, reality shows, and "original" sitcoms.


I remember when there were TV Land retail stores in malls.
I don't know if there any still.

/haven't stepped foot in a mall in ages
 
2013-10-05 04:20:22 PM  
21 Any number of years ago, Food Network every channel was launched, and its originally proposed programming concepts did not include a lineup of preening celebrity chefs or vaguely food-related reality shows

Happens to all of 'em, subby.
 
2013-10-05 04:29:22 PM  
The ratings of the Food Network have steadily increased over the last 20 years, at the same rate as obesity in the US... Coincidence???!!
 
2013-10-05 04:39:07 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Benevolent Misanthrope: She's the lady with the gray crew cut who was on Good Eats from time to time. She was Alton Brown's Food Science prof from UGA. She's also a very nice lady, and a top-notch food scientist.

Ahhh.. now I remember her, thanks again. It must be all the stirring I'm doing now with a bolognese sauce from one of Marcella Hazan's cookbooks and not the cheap chianti.


My best lesson learned from Julia Child - you're not cooking if you don't have a constantly-replenishing glass of wine while you're doing it.
 
2013-10-05 04:39:56 PM  
You will watch your 'Wheel Of Fish' and you will like it or else.
 
2013-10-05 05:08:45 PM  
Yes, TFN has been bit by the Reality TV bug but all its programming is still food related, unlike MTV, History, Discovery and most of the rest that don't even try to hold to their original purpose.  I'll take Chopped any day over The Real House Rednecks Pawning Boo Boo Duck Pickers.
 
2013-10-05 05:12:56 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: TLC wasn't a televised freakshow.


What have you got against "Alaskan Women Looking For Love" and "Long Island Medium"? They're educational.
 
2013-10-05 05:14:32 PM  
Every show on that chanel is "The Cooking Gong Show" these days.

What line cook from the local Fry & Grill is gonna get voted off the island next?!!
 
2013-10-05 05:39:29 PM  
I still miss Wolfgang Puck's Cooking Class.

Literally, a master chef giving step by step instructions to create some dish including the easy way to do simple prep tasks like dice an onion or peel a tomato.
 
2013-10-05 05:48:37 PM  
A coworker and I went up the street during lunch one day to a dive bar/grill. Mostly a dive bar. We ate a quick burger or something and decided we had time for a quick game of shuffleboard; while playing, there was a couple of older guys sitting at a nearby table talking and joking.

This one guy was telling the other how if he went home for lunch he liked to eat soup because he could fark his old lady doggy-style and balance his soup bowl on her ass while boinking her.

Ever after that, if I went home for lunch, when I'd get back to the office Fred would ask me if I had soup.

I'm thinking pilot possibilities.
 
2013-10-05 06:22:09 PM  

johnnieconnie: FirstNationalBastard: The Sci-Fi channel wasn't ghost shows and wrestling.

TV Land wasn't 6 classic shows with heavily edited reruns, reality shows, and "original" sitcoms.

The History Channel wasn't all horrible reality shows.

TLC wasn't a televised freakshow.

Networks change, 99% of the time for the worse. AMC was a surprising success in its second life, but their good shows are ending and they're looking to get into the reality market.

Remember when A&E aired shows of actual artistic value?

It's hard to believe that the Pride & Prejudice mini series (the one with Colin Firth) actually aired on A&E in America, and not PBS. I used to watch all kinds of BBC shows on A&E, like Silent Witness. I'm pretty disappointed that BBC America seems to be heading more into reality shows, just like all the other channels.


the first time I saw Sweeny Todd was when A&E aired it, 6am on a sunday morning I was but a wee liitle lad. I saw Angela Landsbury, remembered her from bedknobs and broomsticks and thought, Cool! kid stuff!
I was maybe 7 years old at the time and in a single instant I became a life long fan of musical theater and horror movies.

well, I was a bit of a wierd kid anyways, but that's besides the point. it was maybe the most awesomest thing I had ever encountered in my life up to that point besides the Alice Cooper episode of the Muppet show.
 
2013-10-05 06:29:08 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: johnnieconnie: FirstNationalBastard: The Sci-Fi channel wasn't ghost shows and wrestling.

TV Land wasn't 6 classic shows with heavily edited reruns, reality shows, and "original" sitcoms.

The History Channel wasn't all horrible reality shows.

TLC wasn't a televised freakshow.

Networks change, 99% of the time for the worse. AMC was a surprising success in its second life, but their good shows are ending and they're looking to get into the reality market.

Remember when A&E aired shows of actual artistic value?

It's hard to believe that the Pride & Prejudice mini series (the one with Colin Firth) actually aired on A&E in America, and not PBS. I used to watch all kinds of BBC shows on A&E, like Silent Witness. I'm pretty disappointed that BBC America seems to be heading more into reality shows, just like all the other channels.

the first time I saw Sweeny Todd was when A&E aired it, 6am on a sunday morning I was but a wee liitle lad. I saw Angela Landsbury, remembered her from bedknobs and broomsticks and thought, Cool! kid stuff!
I was maybe 7 years old at the time and in a single instant I became a life long fan of musical theater and horror movies.

well, I was a bit of a wierd kid anyways, but that's besides the point. it was maybe the most awesomest thing I had ever encountered in my life up to that point besides the Alice Cooper episode of the Muppet show.


Egads.  7 years seems a tad young for something like Sweeny Todd.  It's unrelentingly violent.  And during the violence they sing show tunes about the violence.
 
2013-10-05 06:36:01 PM  
i1.ytimg.com

lawn.....off it
 
2013-10-05 06:44:25 PM  
They need a specialty channel about the stuff people find in abandoned storage lockers.

And one about duck call manufacturers.
 
2013-10-05 06:47:07 PM  
Is there any channel not going the reality TV route?

I would say AMC and TCM but...nope.
 
2013-10-05 07:01:14 PM  
One day, there will be only one TV channel: 3D TV. Food? 3D print it. Cars? 3D print it. House? 3D print it. Warp drive? 3D print it. It's the future, Luddites. My hard drive is bigger now, therefore anything is possible.
 
2013-10-05 07:37:46 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: I loved the Food Network when it first came out and watched all the time until about ten years ago.

PBS used to be the only network to watch cooking shows before that.
/Loved all the real cooking shows early on.
//Julia Child, Jacques Pépin, Justin Wilson and Paul Prudhomme...  just to name a few


I agree. Hell, I used to watch "The Galloping Gourmet" when I was a tiny child. I loved the dude and I wanted so much to sit at his little table at the end and eat what he'd made.

Used to watch "The Frugal Gourmet" until he was driven off the air for...I want to say sexual harassment?

And I used to watch Food Network a lot more than I do now, but oh well, all the niche channels are going the way of the "lowest common denominator" reality shows. Maybe it will come full circle again and we will get a new generation of niche channels...one can hope.
 
2013-10-05 07:40:24 PM  
I think the problem with the concept of pure cooking shows these days is oversaturation.

If you've been an avid watcher of cooking shows there are so many that you tend to hear and see the same ideas and techiques ad nausem. If I hear ATC explain the science of brining or the Maillard reaction I'm going to burn Vermont to the ground.

So we've seen most everything cookingwise with a few fun exceptions per year. I think that plateaued the ratings for Food Network.

Then Top Chef ruined everything by turning it all into a game show. Sure there was Iron Chef first, but Top Chef knocked it out of the park. Now it all has to be a competition. There has to be a loser who's amazing waygu beef masterpiece was just a little underseasoned and not worthy of dog food.

Personally, I like The Chew as a development in cooking TV. Food is really something that is best when shared and I appreciate the casualness of that show.
 
2013-10-05 07:47:27 PM  

eddievercetti: Is there any channel not going the reality TV route?

I would say AMC and TCM but...nope.


Reality shows are dirt cheap to make and sadly the trashier the show the bigger the ratings.

Idiocracy wasn't wrong.
 
2013-10-05 07:48:13 PM  
I miss Ming Tsai's East Meets West.  Dunno what happened, but when his show ended they removed all his recipes from the web site.  I had a sad.

Best ep was his last thanksgiving special, where he cooked with his parents.  His dad was doing something with his hands, don't remember what, when he sneezed into both of them, wiped them on his pants, and plunged both hands back into the food.  I could feel Ming cringe when he saw that.

Rachael Ray's early shows were good too.  And Tyler's ultimate.
 
2013-10-05 07:56:15 PM  

silvervial: AlwaysRightBoy: I loved the Food Network when it first came out and watched all the time until about ten years ago.

PBS used to be the only network to watch cooking shows before that.
/Loved all the real cooking shows early on.
//Julia Child, Jacques Pépin, Justin Wilson and Paul Prudhomme...  just to name a few

I agree. Hell, I used to watch "The Galloping Gourmet" when I was a tiny child. I loved the dude and I wanted so much to sit at his little table at the end and eat what he'd made.

Used to watch "The Frugal Gourmet" until he was driven off the air for...I want to say sexual harassment?

And I used to watch Food Network a lot more than I do now, but oh well, all the niche channels are going the way of the "lowest common denominator" reality shows. Maybe it will come full circle again and we will get a new generation of niche channels...one can hope.


The Frug was (cough) allegedly (cough) a pedophile.  I watched him religiously as a kid.  Still have a couple of his books.  Which remain face down.
 
2013-10-05 08:04:23 PM  
Most of the cable channels should merge and form the "Insipid Bullshiat Channel."
 
2013-10-05 08:30:33 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: johnnieconnie: FirstNationalBastard: The Sci-Fi channel wasn't ghost shows and wrestling.

TV Land wasn't 6 classic shows with heavily edited reruns, reality shows, and "original" sitcoms.

The History Channel wasn't all horrible reality shows.

TLC wasn't a televised freakshow.

Networks change, 99% of the time for the worse. AMC was a surprising success in its second life, but their good shows are ending and they're looking to get into the reality market.

Remember when A&E aired shows of actual artistic value?

It's hard to believe that the Pride & Prejudice mini series (the one with Colin Firth) actually aired on A&E in America, and not PBS. I used to watch all kinds of BBC shows on A&E, like Silent Witness. I'm pretty disappointed that BBC America seems to be heading more into reality shows, just like all the other channels.

The PBS station in DC has a digital subchannel that airs only British programming.

It's what BBC America should be, instead of the Star Trek: TNG/X-Files channel.

/and edited, commercial-filled Doctor Who and Top Gear? Why bother?


I still remember when a certain political party (which shall remain nameless) wanted to defund PBS because cable channels like the History Channel and The Learning Channel made PBS superfluous. I am glad they failed.
 
2013-10-05 08:31:19 PM  
Did you hear about Paula Deen's new restaurant?

She only serves crackers.
 
2013-10-05 08:33:51 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: The Sci-Fi channel wasn't ghost shows and wrestling.

TV Land wasn't 6 classic shows with heavily edited reruns, reality shows, and "original" sitcoms.

The History Channel wasn't all horrible reality shows.

TLC wasn't a televised freakshow.

Networks change, 99% of the time for the worse. AMC was a surprising success in its second life, but their good shows are ending and they're looking to get into the reality market.


The TV stations are flailing in much the same matter as radio was in the late 90's.  Clear Channel flooded the airwaves with the same kind of crap as reality TV.   With the population moving towards better mediums, the programming is less about taste and more about the highest profit margin, just to make enough money to "survive".  (I put survive in quotes, because they are still making a ton of money, just not as much as they used to with the same quality of shows.)

Movies and video games are shifting in much the same degree.  Indie games and movies are taking a bigger role, to fill the gap created by big budget games/movies with low-quality gameplay/stories.  I don't dare say that this hasn't been happening since forever, but the trend is shooting upward as these channels have less room for creativity.
 
2013-10-05 08:50:00 PM  

DeaH: FirstNationalBastard: johnnieconnie: FirstNationalBastard: The Sci-Fi channel wasn't ghost shows and wrestling.

TV Land wasn't 6 classic shows with heavily edited reruns, reality shows, and "original" sitcoms.

The History Channel wasn't all horrible reality shows.

TLC wasn't a televised freakshow.

Networks change, 99% of the time for the worse. AMC was a surprising success in its second life, but their good shows are ending and they're looking to get into the reality market.

Remember when A&E aired shows of actual artistic value?

It's hard to believe that the Pride & Prejudice mini series (the one with Colin Firth) actually aired on A&E in America, and not PBS. I used to watch all kinds of BBC shows on A&E, like Silent Witness. I'm pretty disappointed that BBC America seems to be heading more into reality shows, just like all the other channels.

The PBS station in DC has a digital subchannel that airs only British programming.

It's what BBC America should be, instead of the Star Trek: TNG/X-Files channel.

/and edited, commercial-filled Doctor Who and Top Gear? Why bother?

I still remember when a certain political party (which shall remain nameless) wanted to defund PBS because cable channels like the History Channel and The Learning Channel made PBS superfluous. I am glad they failed.


Did they? How's PBS doing these days, what with the running adverts on some shows, and all?
 
2013-10-05 09:10:22 PM  
Everything on television is a farking "reality" show now. It's nauseating.

Glad I canceled my cable 4 years ago. Haven't had a problem since. Thank you, pira... *banned*
 
2013-10-05 09:13:05 PM  
The Esquire Network wasn't The Nashville Network.
 
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