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2013-10-05 03:57:17 PM
Well the Real-Levante match certainly was interesting. Too bad Inter-Roma is so far 45 minutes of Roma styling all over the blue half.
 
2013-10-05 04:00:39 PM

ADubs86: Well the Real-Levante match certainly was interesting. Too bad Inter-Roma is so far 45 minutes of Roma styling all over the blue half.


Still don't get why the hell they needed a 1999 MU performance, but I'll take it. Ancelotti should really give Morata a chance at a starting spot. Benzema's very volatile.
 
2013-10-05 04:08:27 PM

desertgeek: I said last season that Man Utd wasn't has good as their record showed. They just didn't look good, but they still looked better than the other EPL teams.

Now, with essentially the same team but a different manager; they look worse. To me, these first few games of the "post-Fergie" era says a lot more about SAF than anything else. He was able to make his players better and could hide defects in the team. Moyes doesn't have that ability. He's a fine manager, but he can't make players better just by his presence.


I think it's possible you are reading too much in these first two months of the season.  Replacing Fergie was always going to huge endeavor even with all the steps taken to minimize the disruption.  That disruption was always going to unsettle some of the players and even some of the management which was going to show on the field.  They will work their way through it and I'm sure they'll be fine.

What really surprises me, particularly after what we saw during the transfer window, is how people expected things to just continue as they had under SAF between the lines.  It was always going to take time.

Time will tell with Moyes, who I, as an Everton supporter, rate very highly.  I think that as he establishes himself his talent for man management will show through.  The biggest problem he will face is in learning the European game, which he has some experience in, and learning how to spend money.  He will always have the shadow of SAF hanging over him, though, but he knew that going in.

I know that as a Liverpool supporter, it must be tempting to quickly dismiss a Manchester United Team with a former Everton boss as manager.  But would suggest you keep your powder dry until things shake out.
 
2013-10-05 05:17:09 PM
Germany vs Ireland next Friday. What could possibly go wrong? We lost 1-6 at home (the fark is with my teams losing 1-6 at home?) and that was with a defensive manager. A year later we fired him and replaced him (temporarily) with the U21 coach, and I have no idea how good or bad he is. O' Shea and Dunne are suspended, meaning the central defensive partnership will be ... who knows, maybe Ciaran Clark and Darren O' Dea. Something like that.

Guus Hiddink is the latest to be linked with the permanent job. I still want Rene Meulensteen. There'll be 24 teams at Euro 2016, so Ireland should be in with a chance of getting there.

/I sort of have a rant in my head about Moyes and stuff, but I don't know where to begin writing it down. You may or may not have that to look forward to in the morning :-)
 
2013-10-05 06:44:30 PM
Dortmund's loss, especially considering their domination in everything but goals, is a shocker. Shame Bayern M couldnt really capitalize on it.
 
2013-10-05 09:25:22 PM

ADubs86: I do find the hilarity that Chelsea have wasted so much money on strikers, yet the two most in form strikers in the league in the last year have both been former and loaned Chelsea strikers. Why on earth they let Lukaku go on loan


Too big for fark.

and why they insisted on trying to play Sturridge on the wing, I do not know.

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2013-10-05 10:01:42 PM
Alright! Sounders Fc@Colorado Rapids kicking off. Go Sounders!
 
2013-10-05 10:27:05 PM
Wow. Did not see that coming. Rapids goal @ 14 seconds.
 
2013-10-05 10:37:45 PM
Either the Sounders are handicapped due to missing 5 starters, or they are just asleep. Rapids are playing just that, to where they are up 2-0 at 10 minutes...sigh
 
2013-10-05 10:58:33 PM
3-0 Rapids...no defense for sounders despite 70% possession. This is abysmal.
 
2013-10-05 11:02:16 PM
Got back to the hotel after watching Columbus lose to Kansas just in time to watch the third Colorado goal.  This should be a fun night.

/crew played terrible
//was still fun to watch
 
2013-10-05 11:07:56 PM
Some days it's better to be lucky than good. Other days, the ref just doesn't care to call consistent fouls. 4-0 Rapids.
 
2013-10-05 11:11:53 PM
At this point, I'm expecting two red cards against the Sounders.
 
2013-10-05 11:48:08 PM

Mr_H: Got back to the hotel after watching Columbus lose to Kansas just in time to watch the third Colorado goal.  This should be a fun night.

/crew played terrible
//was still fun to watch


I'm still watching the Sounders. There have been close shots...and Johnson finds the net. 4-1 rapids
 
2013-10-05 11:58:37 PM

SomebodyElsesShoes: I think it's possible you are reading too much in these first two months of the season.  Replacing Fergie was always going to huge endeavor even with all the steps taken to minimize the disruption.  That disruption was always going to unsettle some of the players and even some of the management which was going to show on the field.  They will work their way through it and I'm sure they'll be fine.

What really surprises me, particularly after what we saw during the transfer window, is how people expected things to just continue as they had under SAF between the lines.  It was always going to take time.

Time will tell with Moyes, who I, as an Everton supporter, rate very highly.  I think that as he establishes himself his talent for man management will show through.  The biggest problem he will face is in learning the European game, which he has some experience in, and learning how to spend money.  He will always have the shadow of SAF hanging over him, though, but he knew that going in.

I know that as a Liverpool supporter, it must be tempting to quickly dismiss a Manchester United Team with a former Everton boss as manager.  But would suggest you keep your powder dry until things shake out.


Despite being a Liverpool supporter, I do like and respect David Moyes. He did quite a bit with not that much at Everton. Seriously, my only two problems with him are:

1) He managed Everton
2) He manages Man Utd

And there's probably a fair number of Liverpool supporters who feel the same way about him.

There was an interview I saw last night that Gary Neville did back in August at some TV conference (video starts where he starts on his career, talk on SAF comes about the 11 minute mark). He was asked about SAF and he said essentially what I did. And for as good as Moyes is, he's not able to summon that drive the same way SAF was able to. Maybe that has to do more with the players than Moyes himself. Maybe he can get that out of a kid like Januzaj who never had a game under SAF, but can you expect the same thing out of Rooney or Ferdinand when all they've known up to May was Ferguson? I don't think so.

Maybe I am reading too much into it and things will change as the season progresses. But I just can't see that happening with these players. Moyes should get a chance to make the team into what he prefers, but I can't see that happening in January alone. It's going to take more than a bit of time for that to happen.
 
2013-10-06 12:24:15 AM
Sounders lose 5-1 to Rapids. Finding out that the Rapids area coming off a bye and the sounders are missing 5 at the start and it's no wonder they lost. That ref was a joke, handing a red to Scott when neither player that hit Rosales in the head got carded. Everything went against the Sounders and their next match is the Whitecaps at the C-link on Wednesday. Fun times.

I have no idea if I can get up for the EPL matches tomorrow morning. I have no idea what happened today in the league outside of Sunderland losing to Man-utd.
 
2013-10-06 12:50:00 AM
4 people are tied in 11th with 305. Hoping I can top 100 this weekend (at 95 right now). COYS!
 
2013-10-06 01:27:56 AM
Just watched NBCSN's Match of the Day and... well, there were a couple of bad penalties given out today; that's for damn sure. I think Gerrard knew it was a incorrect penalty call and that's why he didn't celebrate his goal.
 
2013-10-06 02:48:54 AM
Ooh +110 for the day FFPL, now I just need:
1-0 wins by Chelsea, Arsenal & Southampton
2-0 win by Spurs

to have a respectable week, ulike my beloved and not so MIGHTY Oxford United who tasted the wrong end of a 2-0 scoreline.
 
2013-10-06 07:24:02 AM

LucklessWonder: Ooh +110 for the day FFPL, now I just need:
1-0 wins by Chelsea, Arsenal & Southampton
2-0 win by Spurs

to have a respectable week, ulike my beloved and not so MIGHTY Oxford United who tasted the wrong end of a 2-0 scoreline.


For what it's worth, every time I see Oxford United mentioned anywhere, my mind now adds the "MIGHTY" at the beginning.
 
2013-10-06 08:17:15 AM
We are all NorfolkingChance today
 
2013-10-06 08:22:20 AM

HaywoodJablonski: We are all NorfolkingChance today


Thank you.


Just to make life more fun for the Chelsea fans (that live in London) the main riad from London is closed on the Norfolk/Suffolk boarder for roadworks. Best to get the trian (Carrow Road is 5 minutes walk from the Norwich train station).
 
2013-10-06 08:22:42 AM

HaywoodJablonski: We are all NorfolkingChance today


Shall I do some Fenland inbreeding jokes, or shall we just assume they were read into the record?
 
2013-10-06 08:23:38 AM
All I want is a Swansea win. Staying in Page 1 is secondary.
 
2013-10-06 08:27:41 AM

HaywoodJablonski: We are all NorfolkingChance today


Everybody but nathanjr, expobillSirjohnfalstaff, and  CognaciousThunk. Damn, there are a few more Chelsea supporters around here but I can't remember their names offhand. Not sure if they're lurking or sleeping.
 
2013-10-06 08:30:06 AM

HaywoodJablonski: We are all NorfolkingChance today


Not me, banker on a 3-1 Chelsea win.

Nothing personal of course, NorfolkingChance, just business.
 
2013-10-06 08:31:49 AM

ADubs86: HaywoodJablonski: We are all NorfolkingChance today

Not me, banker on a 3-1 Chelsea win.

Nothing personal of course, NorfolkingChance, just business.


I've banked on a Chelsea win as well. No matter
 
2013-10-06 08:32:09 AM

Langston: HaywoodJablonski: We are all NorfolkingChance today

Everybody but nathanjr, expobill,  Sirjohnfalstaff, and  CognaciousThunk. Damn, there are a few more Chelsea supporters around here but I can't remember their names offhand. Not sure if they're lurking or sleeping.


We never see expobill anymore.
 
2013-10-06 08:33:52 AM
HaywoodJablonski:

I've banked on a Chelsea win as well. No matter

Actually he starts.

Cough. More seriously - the psychology of predicting your own team is interesting isn't it?
 
2013-10-06 08:36:57 AM

midpoint: HaywoodJablonski:

I've banked on a Chelsea win as well. No matter

Actually he starts.

Cough. More seriously - the psychology of predicting your own team is interesting isn't it?


I just insure it when I know I'm being too optimistic, like in the Arsenal match.
 
2013-10-06 08:39:49 AM
Crap
 
2013-10-06 08:40:14 AM

midpoint: HaywoodJablonski:

I've banked on a Chelsea win as well. No matter

Actually he starts.

Cough. More seriously - the psychology of predicting your own team is interesting isn't it?


Heh. Nice Juan
 
2013-10-06 08:42:13 AM

Norfolking Chance: Crap


Norwich has many attacking threats. I expect they'll respond at home.
 
2013-10-06 08:48:40 AM
Shelvey keeps bombing it to Dyer like he thinks there's a magnet on Dyer's foot. Play it safer goddammit.
 
2013-10-06 08:49:36 AM
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark.
 
2013-10-06 08:54:27 AM
Okay that's ridiculous. This was Southampton's first first-half goal since April.
 
2013-10-06 08:55:48 AM
So Ba went to the John Terry school of ball control and only got the ball under control with his hand.

Sigh. Chelsea always get away with it.
 
2013-10-06 08:56:42 AM
Michu's got the Cech-style helmet for this match. After the epic bleeder he had in the Europa League, it's to be expected.
 
2013-10-06 09:00:05 AM

Princip's Sandwich: Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark.


Southampton stronger than people give them credit for. They beat Liverpool and West Brom and have looked pretty solid overall.
 
2013-10-06 09:00:48 AM

Langston: Princip's Sandwich: Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark.

Southampton stronger than people give them credit for. They beat Liverpool and West Brom and have looked pretty solid overall.


I insured the match. I still have hope though, Swans woke up.
 
2013-10-06 09:03:53 AM
This Ref is utter shiate. You got more from Webb when you played MU.

It deflects of TWO Chelsea players yet its a goal kick?
 
2013-10-06 09:03:58 AM

Unfreakable: LucklessWonder: Ooh +110 for the day FFPL, now I just need:
1-0 wins by Chelsea, Arsenal & Southampton
2-0 win by Spurs

to have a respectable week, ulike my beloved and not so MIGHTY Oxford United who tasted the wrong end of a 2-0 scoreline.

For what it's worth, every time I see Oxford United mentioned anywhere, my mind now adds the "MIGHTY" at the beginning.


You aren't the first Farker to tell me that. And I'm glad that the MIGHT of Oxford United is recognised by more than just me.
 
2013-10-06 09:05:57 AM

LucklessWonder: Unfreakable: LucklessWonder: Ooh +110 for the day FFPL, now I just need:
1-0 wins by Chelsea, Arsenal & Southampton
2-0 win by Spurs

to have a respectable week, ulike my beloved and not so MIGHTY Oxford United who tasted the wrong end of a 2-0 scoreline.

For what it's worth, every time I see Oxford United mentioned anywhere, my mind now adds the "MIGHTY" at the beginning.

You aren't the first Farker to tell me that. And I'm glad that the MIGHT of Oxford United is recognised by more than just me.


Oxford Utd. Or as they are more popularly known - Pavlov's Dogs.
 
2013-10-06 09:06:49 AM
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK. GODDAMMIT POST. WHY DID YOU SIGN FOR SOUTHAMPTON.
 
2013-10-06 09:12:34 AM
Goddammit. Boruc's unbeatable if he keeps playing like this.
 
2013-10-06 09:14:58 AM

Princip's Sandwich: Goddammit. Boruc's unbeatable if he keeps playing like this.


Boruc must be Polish for "wall"
 
2013-10-06 09:17:28 AM
So many chances to equalize in this half...
 
2013-10-06 09:19:44 AM
How's the Chelsea game? Did Jose revert to his game-killing form?
 
2013-10-06 09:35:10 AM

Princip's Sandwich: How's the Chelsea game? Did Jose revert to his game-killing form?


The tactics are much like the CL games. One striker up front with the ball hoofed up to him and midfeild packed to kill the game.

Plus the ref is in Blue
 
2013-10-06 09:38:15 AM
Southampton over Swansea?  Craaaap.
/just dragged his waaaay hung over arse out of bed
 
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