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(Telegraph)   First couple dozen pararagraphs: 500-YEAR-OLD LOST LEONARDO PAINTING FOUND. Last few paragraphs: or maybe not   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 17
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2013-10-04 07:47:22 PM
Calling those paragraphs is being generous.  I blame twitter.
 
2013-10-04 07:59:24 PM
So when does the book come out?
 
2013-10-04 08:33:57 PM
But he raised doubts about whether the painting was really the work of Leonardo.

The portrait found in Switzerland is painted on canvas, whereas Leonardo favoured wooden boards.

"Canvas was not used by Leonardo or anyone in his production line," Prof Kemp told The Daily Telegraph. "Although with Leonardo, the one thing I have learnt is never to be surprised."

There are further doubts - Leonardo gave away his original sketch to the marquesa, so he would not have been able to refer to it later in order to paint a full oil version.

"You can't rule out the possibility but it seems unlikely," Prof Kemp said.

It was more likely to have been produced by one of the many artists operating in northern Italy who copied Leonardo's works.


I have a theory.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-04 08:35:55 PM
I never understood why Donatello did machines, but Leonardo seems to be more associated with engineering.
 
2013-10-04 08:44:39 PM
images.wikia.com
 
2013-10-04 09:43:30 PM
I like his early work but his later stuff was just a rehash.
 
2013-10-04 10:13:04 PM

gnosis301: I never understood why Donatello did machines, but Leonardo seems to be more associated with engineering.


I suspect if you did a venn diagram of american pop culture and actual historical order, you'd get a print-out of two circles about a mile apart..
 
2013-10-04 10:27:37 PM
Call me when they finally rip down that wall and find The Battle of Anghiari.
 
2013-10-04 10:51:00 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Call me when they finally rip down that wall and find The Battle of Anghiari.


Never going to happen.  The fresco on the false wall is by Vasari and is historically important in itself.  Also, while there's probably something behind it, it's not a finished work.  Leonardo was experimenting again with oil paint on plaster (as he did on the Last Supper) and the results were even more disastrous: they slid off the wall almost as soon as he was finished.  If there's anything left, it will just be layout drawings.

The funny/amazing thing is that this has been a really good period for identifying new works by the master: we've got the Salvador Mundi, the portrait of a young woman from the d'Este court and an early copy of the Mona Lisa which was painted in parallel to the original.

When it comes to the work in TFA:

1) Unless the painting has been heavily over-painted, there's no way that's a Leonardo.  It needs to be cleaned before anything can really be said about it.

2) Though it's rare, it is possible to transfer a panel painting to canvas.  This was done to Raphael's Alba Madonna in the National Gallery in DC because the panel it was on cracked badly.

3) I'm reserving judgment until Martin Kemp releases his findings.

The painting I'm waiting for them to find is Leonardo's Leda and the Swan.  It was considered a masterpiece during his lifetime, heavily copied (including versions by his own studio) and is known to have existed until only a couple hundred years ago, when it simply disappears. Unless it burned in a fire, it still exists out there, somewhere.
 
2013-10-04 11:00:56 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: [images.wikia.com image 850x477]


I vaguely remember this. What is it from?
 
2013-10-04 11:31:29 PM

Harry_Seldon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: [images.wikia.com image 850x477]

I vaguely remember this. What is it from?


The Alvin cartoon show

/specifically the Clyde Crashcup segment
//that's Leonardo, Clyde's whispering lab assistant
 
2013-10-05 12:06:15 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Harry_Seldon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: [images.wikia.com image 850x477]

I vaguely remember this. What is it from?

The Alvin cartoon show

/specifically the Clyde Crashcup segment
//that's Leonardo, Clyde's whispering lab assistant


Geez...I feel old. I am going to go take my Centrum Silver.
 
2013-10-05 12:19:05 AM

Harry_Seldon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Harry_Seldon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: [images.wikia.com image 850x477]

I vaguely remember this. What is it from?

The Alvin cartoon show

/specifically the Clyde Crashcup segment
//that's Leonardo, Clyde's whispering lab assistant

Geez...I feel old. I am going to go take my Centrum Silver.


I started turning into metal a long time ago

/silver in my hair
//gold in my teeth
///and lead in my ass
 
2013-10-05 08:38:07 AM
Well played...

heartofthetiger.homestead.com
 
2013-10-05 09:01:13 AM
if you're interested, there is a fascinating documentary on the authentication of a possible leonardo painting found recently. it's well-worth watching.
 
2013-10-05 09:25:53 AM
My gut tells me that's not a Leonardo. First there's the canvas issue, but look at that thing! Where's the sfumato? More importantly, where's the psychological insight and sexual tension of a genuine Leonardo? He didn't just toss these things off; he was incapable of it, That looks like a colored-in drawing, not a masterpiece drawn from the soul of the greatest artist of the Renaissance. Not a forgery per se, but obviously the work of a student or second tier artist who got access to the drawing after Leonardo gave it away.

It's like those Vermeer forgeries by van Meergen. Who could possibly mistake one of those clumsy efforts for the real thing? They don't even compare well with Vermeer's early, non camera obscura work. Look at the recently discovered Rembrandt self portrait to see what a previously unknown painting from the hand of the Master looks like.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/18/world/europe/mystery-masterpiece-rembr an dt-self-portrait/index.html
 
2013-10-05 10:32:08 AM
Is he with his fighting time commandos?
 
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