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2013-10-04 02:48:22 PM
Dear god, "people wouldn't pay for X, therefor we'll force them to buy it" is the most demonstrative evidence against free market capitalism I've ever heard.
 
2013-10-04 02:49:59 PM
If you want to make yourself irrelevant, Comcast, then be my guest.
 
2013-10-04 02:51:33 PM
And they wonder why piracy is to prevelant
 
2013-10-04 02:52:06 PM
Huh...funny how the music industry was saying the same thing.  Insisting people buy the whole album/CD or you'll get nothing.

Times will change and so will Comcast when they start losing customers by the truck full.
 
2013-10-04 02:53:19 PM
"You can't just buy the sports section of XYZ newspaper." Guess what, dipshiat? Look at what is happening to newspaper circulation. You're next, Methuselah.
 
2013-10-04 02:53:29 PM
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2013-10-04 02:53:42 PM
He is right though... the economics of how the channels run currently "require" a large base of "subscribers" who pay (for the vast majority of channels outside of ESPN and a few other sports channels, and a few other chanels) 25-50 cents each (or less) to have the channel.  Otherwise, yes, you can go alacarte... but, your base subscription to just pay for the "infrastructure"/distribution aspect of your system will be $20-25/mo.  Add on to that at minimum $2-4 per channel per month.   And then, on top of that, still paying your $5-20/mo for whatever extra boxes you have.  So, you can get 150-200 channels a month, or just the "5-10 I want" for, maybe, a few bucks less per month.   People have these grand visions that "if we went alacarte", my cable bill would be $20/month!   Yeah, not happening.

I've predicted in the past though.... the "channel"  aspect of video entertainment should really die out in the next 25-50 years though... there is no reason now with our methods of video distribution that you have to have a linear "piped" channel at #"XXX" on your "dial/box" for programming.  Even now, it is more there because of "tradition" and what is already "installed" more than anything else.

So, from the "old school", we are giving you blocks of channels aspect... ala carte doesn't make sense.   From the 20-40 years in the future aspect where people will just buy the programs they want individually anyway.... the current model is dead anyway.
 
2013-10-04 02:54:19 PM
I love his comment about the newspaper. Maybe the reason they are failing is BECAUSE we cannot just buy the sports section...
 
2013-10-04 02:54:49 PM
If there is one company that could do it it would be Google

When the big G comes calling, I think you will see the a la carte on the menu
 
2013-10-04 02:55:00 PM
I don't konw what Americans typically have to choose from, but with my provider in Calgary I have a set group of "basic cable" channels that are automatically included  HOWEVER, I also can choose any of about 100 others "a la carte'.  And I can get various bundles (sports movies, etc.) as well.

It's actually a pretty decent middle ground.  It protects the smaller, newer or public stations from being excluded from homes, while giving consumers the chance not to pay for a lot of stuff they don't want.  Perfect?  no.  But not bad, really.
 
2013-10-04 02:55:08 PM
I just pirate shows online.
 
2013-10-04 02:55:30 PM
Congress has passed numerous law's to get these farkers to give us the choice of what channels we want to buy and the cable companies keep finding new ways to screw with us.
 
2013-10-04 02:55:43 PM
Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, please stand by for an important message from the president of your local cable company.

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President: Hello. In an effort to comfort the anguished cries or children everywhere, your local cable company has decided to drop all networks that sexualize spousal homicides from regular programming. Customers still wishing to view true-crime networks will now need to purchase a separate package [pulls back his coat and rips some patches off his dress shirt] which will require a technician to service your cable box every night from 2 to 3 am. and must include the purchase of 300 channels in Portuguese. We realize this may be an inconvenience to you, and we hope you will voice ALL your concerns to us, because at your local cable company the customer is always... our biatch.
 
2013-10-04 02:56:36 PM

majestic: "You can't just buy the sports section of XYZ newspaper." Guess what, dipshiat? Look at what is happening to newspaper circulation. You're next, Methuselah.


I came here to say some variation of this. Way to pick another failing business model to hold up as your example
 
2013-10-04 02:57:18 PM
Too late cable guys. Your end is nigh.... I mean near.

That means don't buy their stock.
 
2013-10-04 02:57:34 PM
 
2013-10-04 02:58:32 PM
Vegan golf?

The clubs are metal and wood, the ball is mostly fake rubber. Do they make the golf bags out of wicker?
 
2013-10-04 02:58:53 PM

LargeCanine: Too late cable guys. Your end is nigh.... I mean near.

That means don't buy their stock.


Oh look, they're a monopoly on local internet too.  Sorry, you wanted to go to a website to watch shows you didn't buy from us, and for some reason it's just buffering forever.  So sorry.
 
2013-10-04 02:59:53 PM

LargeCanine: Too late cable guys. Your end is nigh.... I mean near.

That means don't buy their stock.


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This really has nothing to do with your post, just felt like posting it.

/cheers
 
2013-10-04 03:00:20 PM
Comcast CEO has numerous Congressmen in his thrall, whom he regales with tales of heroic programming decisions whist golfing.

Film at 11.
 
2013-10-04 03:00:35 PM
This is why Hulu and Netflix will soon dominate the TV markets.  What's funny to me is the whole local-channel HD switchover they paid so much for now looking like a huge waste of money.
 
2013-10-04 03:01:27 PM
Why not try partial a la cart -- pick and choose your bundles:

NEWS -- $5 (CNN, MSNBC, BBC WORLD etc)
SPORTS -- $15 (ESPN, ESPN12, etc)
DUMB STUFF - $5 (TLC, etc)
NETWORKS - $5 (CBS NBC, etc)
OLD PERSON STUFF - $5 (Hallmark Channel, etc)

People will probably spend a little less total than they are now, but more _per channel_. I assure you I would spend $25 a month for cable, even though I only watch like 6 channels.  Comcast would take in less overall from me but their profit margin would be higher.

Hell if I'm paying $75 a month for channels I'm never going to watch.  It's like subscribing to every magazine in the Publisher's Clearing House catalog when I only want three. Why would I do that?
 
2013-10-04 03:03:55 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Comcast CEO has numerous Congressmen in his thrall, whom he regales with tales of heroic programming decisions whist golfing.

Film at 11.


Thrall? Speak English. If you don't use Latin based words (because thats what everyone thinks English comes from) then you are an uneducated fool.
 
2013-10-04 03:04:49 PM

LargeCanine: Too late cable guys. Your end is nigh.... I mean near.

That means don't buy their stock.

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Somebody's got to kill the babysitter.
 
2013-10-04 03:05:25 PM

ikanreed: Dear god, "people wouldn't pay for X, therefor we'll force them to buy it" is the most demonstrative evidence against free market capitalism supporting their monopoly I've ever heard.


FTFY
 
2013-10-04 03:06:41 PM
whatever. I dropped comcast tv years ago.
 
2013-10-04 03:07:06 PM
'Buying the whole paper' is not an argument to take 20 networks bundled together. It's an argument to take ONE network bundled together. As in, if you want Mythbusters, you have to take the rest of the Discovery Channel along with it. What this is, is subscribing to the New York Times and then having the following dumped on your front lawn every morning at the combined subscription price of all:

*New York Times
*San Francisco Chronicle
*Minneapolis Star-Tribune
*Cincinnati Enquirer
*Courier-Post (Cherry Hill, NJ)
*Idaho State Journal
*Washington Times
*Opelika-Auburn (AL) News
*Metro Saskatoon
*Metro Calgary
*Metro Ottawa
*Le Journal de Montreal
*The Australian Financial Review
*Diario 24 Horas (Mexico City)
*Daily Mail
*Vecerne Novosti (Belgrade)
*Ha'aretz (Jerusalem)
*Arab News (Jeddah, Saudi Arabia)
*The Namibian
 
2013-10-04 03:07:35 PM
The next raise in my bill will be used to buy a pair of  digital rabbit ears.
 
2013-10-04 03:08:00 PM
But still not FXX? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
 
2013-10-04 03:08:07 PM
Get a Roku player. You pick and choose the channels the want. They're not cable channels but you pick a channel lineup that you want. I don't need channels in Spanish, Japanese, Chinese, etc. that Cox makes me pay for.
 
2013-10-04 03:08:52 PM
A la carte programming is never going to happen on cable.  That's not the same as never going to happen period.

Good luck with your business model, farker.
 
2013-10-04 03:09:26 PM

FatherChaos: This is why Hulu and Netflix will soon dominate the TV markets.  What's funny to me is the whole local-channel HD switchover they paid so much for now looking like a huge waste of money.


I think it will be some time until OTA local channels become truly useless.  They are more reliable than cable or satellite (and often provide a superior image), still show a decent amount of news and sports (plus PBS and some kids' programming), and are useful in an emergency.

Actually, for a time Hulu/Netflix/Amazon, etc. will encourage cord-cutters to buy antennas and watch some OTA programming (such as said news and sports).
 
2013-10-04 03:11:03 PM
Comcast CEO says a la carte programming will never happen

Who cares? That statement just proves how behind the times you are. People don't want a la carte programming anymore. This isn't 2002.  People want to be able to watch their specific shows and that's it. Didn't you learn anything from TVo?

The entire concept of "channels" is outdated at this point.
All people want is on-demand access to shows and events.  If you can't provide that, then sucks for you.  Because the internet already can.  And it's getting to be easier and easier for Joe Sixpack to do so.
 
2013-10-04 03:11:36 PM
"You can't just buy the sports section of XYZ newspaper."

yeah, we know. But the newspaper is 1.50 and I'd have no problem throwing away the rest. At 150.00/mth cable just isn't the same.
 
2013-10-04 03:12:56 PM
Why i still pay for cable:
1. Live sports
2. My employer pays for my internet, which means my internet/cable package costs me half of what it normally would, so haha
 
2013-10-04 03:13:10 PM
Why I dropped Comcrap years ago. The first cable company to market with even partial cafeteria-style subscriptions will win.

Talos: Huh...funny how the music industry was saying the same thing.  Insisting people buy the whole album/CD or you'll get nothing.

Times will change and so will Comcast when they start losing customers by the truck full.


"When they start"? Didn't I read that 2012 was the first year of total declining subscribers, and that they've been bleeding cable subscriptions for years?
 
2013-10-04 03:13:34 PM
Once we can get reliable high speed Internet from sources other than the local cable and phone companies, there will be a la carte programming. Dinosaur industries will never see meteors like Google Fiber coming.
 
2013-10-04 03:14:24 PM

paygun: A la carte programming is never going to happen on cable.  That's not the same as never going to happen period.

Good luck with your business model, farker.


"Cable" will still end up being a valuable physical network; the only question is whether Comcast will wise up before getting purchased.
 
2013-10-04 03:15:30 PM
What's his reasoning behind why people are cutting their cable? I'm genuinely curious.
 
2013-10-04 03:16:30 PM
 
2013-10-04 03:17:30 PM
I've got thirteen hundred channels of shiat on the tv to choose from.
 
2013-10-04 03:19:16 PM
I don't want a la carte programming. It'll all be shiat like "Duck Dynasty", "TMZ" and "Hillbilly Hand Fishing". TV is dumb enough as it is without giving COMPLETE control over to every mouthbreathing retard who thinks a little kid farting for 40 minutes is top-notch entertainment.

I like dumb shiat, I just don't want it to be my ONLY option.
 
2013-10-04 03:20:06 PM

dj_spanmaster: "Cable" will still end up being a valuable physical network; the only question is whether Comcast will wise up before getting purchased.


I imagine the cable companies will eventually do fine, when they become literal network cabling companies and have nothing to do with content.
 
2013-10-04 03:21:53 PM
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2013-10-04 03:22:40 PM
Any service worker who serves this farker exactly what he asks for should be beaten by the rest of society.


We should make this guys world a living hell when he wants something.
 
2013-10-04 03:22:43 PM
"If you had to pay separately for just PBS, probably, sadly, not a majority of Americans would do that"

Am I wrong to suppose PBS might just price itself at $0/month.
 
2013-10-04 03:22:56 PM
Live sports is going to prop up pay TV for a long time because advertisers know it's DVR-proof.
 
2013-10-04 03:25:05 PM
"You can't just buy the sports section of The New York Times. You take the whole paper."

And that's one of many reasons why newspapers are a dying business.
 
2013-10-04 03:29:43 PM

ElwoodCuse: Live sports is going to prop up pay TV for a long time because advertisers know it's DVR-proof.


There's a reason ESPN is by far the most expensive non-premium channel in the lineup.
 
2013-10-04 03:32:05 PM

skozlaw: TV is dumb enough as it is without giving COMPLETE control over to every mouthbreathing retard who thinks a little kid farting for 40 minutes is top-notch entertainment.


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