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(Washington Post) NewsFlash BREAKING: House Democrats announce they will bring discharge petition to the floor of the House to pass a clean CR, circumventing the Speaker and the House Majority   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 718
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2013-10-04 01:47:49 PM  
Now that's fascinating. Force the moderate GOPers to vote for it.
 
2013-10-04 01:51:31 PM  
BAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2013-10-04 01:52:23 PM  
Considering they're trying this off of the back of a GOP sponsored bill, what are the chances that if it works the Republicans immediately start claiming credit for it like it was their idea all along?
 
2013-10-04 01:52:31 PM  
I was ok with this until I read:

After the first 120 days, auto-CR funding would be reduced by one percentage point and would continue to be reduced by that margin every 90 days.

Isn't this what the GOP wants? Can the amend this? Else we will have the incredible shrinking government. And while some think that is the awesomest of awesome, others realize we have a growing population and a growing elderly population.
 
2013-10-04 01:52:43 PM  
Too cool.
 
2013-10-04 01:53:47 PM  
The bill in question is the "Government Shutdown Prevention Act," which was introduced in March by GOP Rep. James Lankford of Oklahoma.

BRILLIANT!! Use their own farking legislation against them!!

Prepare for Teabagger Nuclear Butthurt, folks!
 
2013-10-04 01:53:49 PM  

DamnYankees: Now that's fascinating. Force the moderate GOPers to vote for it.


I don't think there's such a thing as "moderate GOPers" in Congress--some of them are not insane of course, but they're all pretty far right..  It's perhaps more accurate to say "non-derp GOPers."
 
2013-10-04 01:55:02 PM  

Nadie_AZ: I was ok with this until I read:

After the first 120 days, auto-CR funding would be reduced by one percentage point and would continue to be reduced by that margin every 90 days.

Isn't this what the GOP wants? Can the amend this? Else we will have the incredible shrinking government. And while some think that is the awesomest of awesome, others realize we have a growing population and a growing elderly population.


Yeah that's not good, but I wonder what level it kicks in at. What's the number for the CR under this discharge petition? Sequester levels?
 
2013-10-04 01:57:42 PM  

DamnYankees: Nadie_AZ: I was ok with this until I read:

After the first 120 days, auto-CR funding would be reduced by one percentage point and would continue to be reduced by that margin every 90 days.

Isn't this what the GOP wants? Can the amend this? Else we will have the incredible shrinking government. And while some think that is the awesomest of awesome, others realize we have a growing population and a growing elderly population.

Yeah that's not good, but I wonder what level it kicks in at. What's the number for the CR under this discharge petition? Sequester levels?


Yeah, sequester levels.  It does give 120 days before a reduction, and at only 1% every 90 days after that, there should be plenty of time to pass a new budget, but I have my doubts the House would support anything.

However, once we're clear of the shutdown and the debt ceiling crisis, we can at least go back to good old-fashioned negotiation when it comes to the budget numbers and appropriations.  The Democrats haven't said they're unwilling to negotiate, they're just unwilling to negotiate with their backs against the wall regarding the shutdown or the debt ceiling.
 
2013-10-04 01:58:01 PM  

markie_farkie: The bill in question is the "Government Shutdown Prevention Act," which was introduced in March by GOP Rep. James Lankford of Oklahoma.


ohhhhhh
 
2013-10-04 01:58:05 PM  
So what you're saying is, the House is going to force Boehner to discharge?
 
2013-10-04 01:58:42 PM  
So, they have the votes to re-open, but Boehner won't let it go to the floor?

Christ.  Why does anyone blame anyone other than the GOP for any of this
 
2013-10-04 02:00:26 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: However, once we're clear of the shutdown and the debt ceiling crisis, we can at least go back to good old-fashioned negotiation when it comes to the budget numbers and appropriations. The Democrats haven't said they're unwilling to negotiate, they're just unwilling to negotiate with their backs against the wall regarding the shutdown or the debt ceiling


The GOP had no idea how much they would hate the sequester, since it cuts into their pork.  They're going to have to deal to save their bacon.  And they'll find that no one trusts them an inch any more.  Rightfully so.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-04 02:02:08 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: So, they have the votes to re-open, but Boehner won't let it go to the floor?

Christ.  Why does anyone blame anyone other than the GOP for any of this


Because their reality is defined by newsmax, Druge, Fox and others like that.
 
2013-10-04 02:02:09 PM  
I doubt they would have done this if they didn't think they had the votes.
 
2013-10-04 02:02:34 PM  

DamnYankees: Nadie_AZ: I was ok with this until I read:

After the first 120 days, auto-CR funding would be reduced by one percentage point and would continue to be reduced by that margin every 90 days.

Isn't this what the GOP wants? Can the amend this? Else we will have the incredible shrinking government. And while some think that is the awesomest of awesome, others realize we have a growing population and a growing elderly population.

Yeah that's not good, but I wonder what level it kicks in at. What's the number for the CR under this discharge petition? Sequester levels?


Yep, the article says it's sequester levels.
 
2013-10-04 02:03:12 PM  

nekom: I doubt they would have done this if they didn't think they had the votes.


Why not? The Democrats have nothing to be embarrassed about if the vote fails. That's one of the advantages of being in the minority.
 
2013-10-04 02:03:22 PM  

nekom: I doubt they would have done this if they didn't think they had the votes.


or they hope to force the GOP to realize there is a chance to force the vote and thus take action to save face ala the hot mic Rand Paul comments
 
2013-10-04 02:04:01 PM  
No. Force Boehner to do it.
If the Democrats do it, Boehner saves face with both the tea party and the moderates.
 
2013-10-04 02:06:01 PM  

DamnYankees: nekom: I doubt they would have done this if they didn't think they had the votes.

Why not? The Democrats have nothing to be embarrassed about if the vote fails. That's one of the advantages of being in the minority.


No, but why would they bother?  So far the GOP is the one kicking and screaming while the Democrats silently wait.  Why change that?
 
2013-10-04 02:06:23 PM  
FTA: "The bill in question is the "Government Shutdown Prevention Act," which was introduced in March by GOP Rep. James Lankford of Oklahoma."

Oh man, this implosion just keeps getting better.
 
2013-10-04 02:08:38 PM  

SilentStrider: No. Force Boehner to do it.
If the Democrats do it, Boehner saves face with both the tea party and the moderates.


I suspect that this won't work, but it'll at least show that the Democrats are trying to reopen the government, while the GOP is doing everything they can to keep it shut down. I would prefer that Boehner be forced to do it, sparking a split that makes defaulting on the debt unlikely.
 
2013-10-04 02:09:13 PM  

nekom: DamnYankees: nekom: I doubt they would have done this if they didn't think they had the votes.

Why not? The Democrats have nothing to be embarrassed about if the vote fails. That's one of the advantages of being in the minority.

No, but why would they bother?  So far the GOP is the one kicking and screaming while the Democrats silently wait.  Why change that?


Because if they win, it's slap in the face to the GOP. If they lose, the GOP looks like they're holding up a compromise.
 
2013-10-04 02:11:28 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: I would prefer that Boehner be forced to do it, sparking a split that makes defaulting on the debt unlikely.


If enough defect, it'll make negotiations more difficult for him during the Debt Ceiling fight as he won't be able to guarantee any votes on anything.
 
2013-10-04 02:11:44 PM  
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2013-10-04 02:11:45 PM  
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat:
Because if they win, it's slap in the face to the GOP. If they lose, the GOP looks like they're holding up a compromise.

I don't really think the GOP is going to look any worse.  If the polls are to be believed, most Americans already blame them for the mess.  Guess we'll see how it goes.
 
2013-10-04 02:12:25 PM  

nekom: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat:
Because if they win, it's slap in the face to the GOP. If they lose, the GOP looks like they're holding up a compromise.

I don't really think the GOP is going to look any worse.  If the polls are to be believed, most Americans already blame them for the mess.  Guess we'll see how it goes.


GOP: Challenge Accepted.
 
2013-10-04 02:13:10 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: FTA: "The bill in question is the "Government Shutdown Prevention Act," which was introduced in March by GOP Rep. James Lankford of Oklahoma."

Oh man, this implosion just keeps getting better.


Yeah, the GOP really didn't want to hear this news.  Too much cognitive dissonance for the base is dangerous.
 
2013-10-04 02:14:12 PM  
FTA: The irony here, of course, is that Dems are effectively hijacking a Republican bill in an effort to undercut the whole House GOP strategy.

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2013-10-04 02:14:31 PM  

nekom: I doubt they would have done this if they didn't think they had the votes.


You, sir, have received one internets.
 
2013-10-04 02:14:48 PM  

nekom: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat:
Because if they win, it's slap in the face to the GOP. If they lose, the GOP looks like they're holding up a compromise.

I don't really think the GOP is going to look any worse.  If the polls are to be believed, most Americans already blame them for the mess.  Guess we'll see how it goes.


I'm of the mentality that if your enemy is to be destroyed, your enemy is to be destroyed utterly.
 
2013-10-04 02:14:50 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: shower_in_my_socks: I would prefer that Boehner be forced to do it, sparking a split that makes defaulting on the debt unlikely.

If enough defect, it'll make negotiations more difficult for him during the Debt Ceiling fight as he won't be able to guarantee any votes on anything.


If this happens without Boehner, there may as well be no Speaker of the House.  He'll still be Boehner, but he will have no balls.
 
2013-10-04 02:15:27 PM  

birdmanesq: nekom: I doubt they would have done this if they didn't think they had the votes.

You, sir, have received one internets.


I revoke that internets, instead granting them to naughtyrev:

naughtyrev: So what you're saying is, the House is going to force Boehner to discharge?


Because evidently I am an abject failure at working the quote button today.
 
2013-10-04 02:16:19 PM  
The more I think about this, the less I like it. If the GOP just sits on its hands, discretionary spending will drop 12% per year. That's insane.
 
2013-10-04 02:18:34 PM  

DamnYankees: The more I think about this, the less I like it. If the GOP just sits on its hands, discretionary spending will drop 12% per year. That's insane.


It's not that much, I don't think. 120 days until it kicks in, thence 1% every three months.
 
2013-10-04 02:19:04 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: DamnYankees: The more I think about this, the less I like it. If the GOP just sits on its hands, discretionary spending will drop 12% per year. That's insane.

It's not that much, I don't think. 120 days until it kicks in, thence 1% every three months.


Oh, I read it wrong. Ok, 4% per year then. Still not good.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-04 02:19:33 PM  

nekom: I don't really think the GOP is going to look any worse.  If the polls are to be believed, most Americans already blame them for the mess.  Guess we'll see how it goes.


And the people who don't never will.
 
2013-10-04 02:20:27 PM  
FTA: The irony here, of course, is that Dems are effectively hijacking a Republican bill in an effort to undercut the whole House GOP strategy.

Completely agree with you there, abb3w.

It's absolutely beautiful!

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2013-10-04 02:20:54 PM  

DamnYankees: The more I think about this, the less I like it. If the GOP just sits on its hands, discretionary spending will drop 12% per year. That's insane.


The first 1% drop isn't until 120 days in, and then it's 1% down every 90 days.  So, after 1 year if nothing is done it would be down 3%, with another 1% drop looming.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-04 02:22:26 PM  
I think this will be resolved, but the mere fact that this group of radicals is willing to try something so radical means that they will try again.

These people want a fight and they are going to get it sooner or later.  They will force a constitutional crisis.
 
2013-10-04 02:22:49 PM  

DamnYankees: The more I think about this, the less I like it. If the GOP just sits on its hands, discretionary spending will drop 12% per year. That's insane.


It's only 1% every 90 days isn't it? That would mean only 4% a year.  And that's only after the first 120 days. So the first year it would be 3%, I think.
 
2013-10-04 02:22:49 PM  
UPDATE: Roll Call reporting the Dems would actually amend Lankford's bill and replace it with the CR the Senate passed. So it'd be a clean CR, without the "drop by 1% every 90 days" crap.
 
2013-10-04 02:22:51 PM  
History lesson:

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2013-10-04 02:23:04 PM  
And here.....we......go.
 
2013-10-04 02:23:04 PM  
Good. I'm sick and tired of all the discharge that's been emanating from Congressional Teabaggers in recent days.
 
2013-10-04 02:23:48 PM  

DamnYankees: UPDATE: Roll Call reporting the Dems would actually amend Lankford's bill and replace it with the CR the Senate passed. So it'd be a clean CR, without the "drop by 1% every 90 days" crap.


Alright, now this is just hilarious. It feels too funny to be true.
 
2013-10-04 02:24:10 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: DamnYankees: The more I think about this, the less I like it. If the GOP just sits on its hands, discretionary spending will drop 12% per year. That's insane.

The first 1% drop isn't until 120 days in, and then it's 1% down every 90 days.  So, after 1 year if nothing is done it would be down 3%, with another 1% drop looming.


And the GOP still have the power, and the government slowly dies, and the GOP have plenty of time to pin it on the Dems, who will, as usual, let them while simultaneously shooting themselves in the foot at every opportunity.
 
2013-10-04 02:24:38 PM  
Oooohhhh, exciting.
 
2013-10-04 02:24:51 PM  
My other worry here is that if the Dems did this, it would INFURIATE the GOP and make a debt default more likely.
 
2013-10-04 02:24:57 PM  
Before I read the article I was hoping a discharge petition was a way to discharge Boehner as speaker, this isn't quite as good but works in my book.
 
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