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2013-10-04 06:36:24 AM
Make some daily, and after the first week, you will have.... well, you know really
 
2013-10-04 07:02:13 AM
You caaaan do a weak pruno, aka terlet sangria, in about three hours with bread yeast and plenty of luck.

It's not advisable. It tastes better coming back up than going down. If you need farked up that bad it's time to reevaluate life.
 
2013-10-04 07:19:53 AM
no, it makes a batch of wort in 3.5 hours.  so can i.
 
2013-10-04 08:14:53 AM

doglover: terlet sangria


'course it's shank or be shanked.
 
2013-10-04 09:32:56 AM
I want  This One
 
2013-10-04 09:35:26 AM
A week if you hate your tongue.
 
2013-10-04 09:35:44 AM
When it's done, they'll have produced a keg of their very own beer - though it still needs to be chilled, have yeast added and allowed to ferment for up to a week.

2.5 hours. 168 hours. What's the difference?
 
2013-10-04 09:39:38 AM
So it's two temperature controlled electric pots connected by a pump?
 
2013-10-04 09:42:16 AM

doublesecretprobation: no, it makes a batch of wort in 3.5 hours.  so can i.


And, from what it appears, a lot less wort.

abhorrent1: I want  This One


Build it for a heck of a lot cheaper. There's at least one farker I know who did so and there are plans online. Sure, it might not look all stainless-steely and nice like that, but it will save you $40k+ I imagine.
 
2013-10-04 09:44:09 AM

WinoRhino: doublesecretprobation: no, it makes a batch of wort in 3.5 hours.  so can i.

And, from what it appears, a lot less wort.

abhorrent1: I want  This One

Build it for a heck of a lot cheaper. There's at least one farker I know who did so and there are plans online. Sure, it might not look all stainless-steely and nice like that, but it will save you $40k+ I imagine.


Yeah. That thing's neat and all, but it's about 10X too much money for what you get.
 
2013-10-04 09:45:09 AM

doublesecretprobation: no, it makes a batch of wort in 3.5 hours.  so can i.


^
 
2013-10-04 09:48:10 AM

KidneyStone: doublesecretprobation: no, it makes a batch of wort in 3.5 hours.  so can i.

^


^
 
2013-10-04 09:56:08 AM

baconbeard: Yeah. That thing's neat and all, but it's about 10X too much money for what you get.


Plus, how many home brewers do you know who would rather buy their rig than build it themselves? There's a huge overlap between DIYers and brewers.
 
2013-10-04 09:56:47 AM
www.towntalk.co.uk
 
2013-10-04 09:58:38 AM
My buddy got me a Mr. Beer kit for my bday last year, so I've been playing with that. They provide the wort in a can, lots of different varieties (they also provide recipes to make your own, but I'm not quite ready for that yet), but it still requires fermenting and all that.

I'm not very good at it, though. First batch came out perfect. Second batch the yeast was dead so it never fermented. Third batch seemed alright but it never carbonated in the bottles for whatever reason. Fourth batch was good except I got the sugar wrong so it super-carbonated. Tastes fine, it just takes forever to pour a glass because I have to wait for the foam to go down, and I'm only putting one bottle at a time in the fridge, because I'm kind of worried about them asploding.

It's a pretty good setup, though, and a good way to get to know your beer a little bit better.
 
2013-10-04 09:58:47 AM

WinoRhino: doublesecretprobation: no, it makes a batch of wort in 3.5 hours.  so can i.

And, from what it appears, a lot less wort.

abhorrent1: I want  This One

Build it for a heck of a lot cheaper. There's at least one farker I know who did so and there are plans online. Sure, it might not look all stainless-steely and nice like that, but it will save you $40k+ I imagine.


May be a cool winter project for me while I'm trapped inside. I was just getting into home brewing this spring but my basement flooded and pretty much derailed all my plans for most of the spring/summer. I'll have to see if I can find some plans.
 
2013-10-04 10:00:06 AM
I think it is kind of silly, but then again anything that gets more people interested in brewing their own beer can't be a bad thing.
 
2013-10-04 10:01:16 AM

the cake is a pie: My buddy got me a Mr. Beer kit for my bday last year, so I've been playing with that. They provide the wort in a can, lots of different varieties (they also provide recipes to make your own, but I'm not quite ready for that yet), but it still requires fermenting and all that.

I'm not very good at it, though. First batch came out perfect. Second batch the yeast was dead so it never fermented. Third batch seemed alright but it never carbonated in the bottles for whatever reason. Fourth batch was good except I got the sugar wrong so it super-carbonated. Tastes fine, it just takes forever to pour a glass because I have to wait for the foam to go down, and I'm only putting one bottle at a time in the fridge, because I'm kind of worried about them asploding.

It's a pretty good setup, though, and a good way to get to know your beer a little bit better.


With most of those kits, it's almost always better to buy good yeast than use the stuff it comes with.  It also helps to proof it first.  You'll get much better results.
 
2013-10-04 10:02:56 AM
You just need a shiatload of bottles that you spend your whole life sterilizing and then you can just rotate, there will always be some fresh.

/really need to start kegging
//really need a basemen
 
2013-10-04 10:03:16 AM

the cake is a pie: My buddy got me a Mr. Beer kit for my bday last year, so I've been playing with that. They provide the wort in a can, lots of different varieties (they also provide recipes to make your own, but I'm not quite ready for that yet), but it still requires fermenting and all that.

I'm not very good at it, though. First batch came out perfect. Second batch the yeast was dead so it never fermented. Third batch seemed alright but it never carbonated in the bottles for whatever reason. Fourth batch was good except I got the sugar wrong so it super-carbonated. Tastes fine, it just takes forever to pour a glass because I have to wait for the foam to go down, and I'm only putting one bottle at a time in the fridge, because I'm kind of worried about them asploding.

It's a pretty good setup, though, and a good way to get to know your beer a little bit better.


They're probably less likely to pop in the fridge. The yeast will shut down.


Man, I really need to get brewing again
 
2013-10-04 10:06:22 AM

genepool lifeboat: the cake is a pie: My buddy got me a Mr. Beer kit for my bday last year, so I've been playing with that. They provide the wort in a can, lots of different varieties (they also provide recipes to make your own, but I'm not quite ready for that yet), but it still requires fermenting and all that.

I'm not very good at it, though. First batch came out perfect. Second batch the yeast was dead so it never fermented. Third batch seemed alright but it never carbonated in the bottles for whatever reason. Fourth batch was good except I got the sugar wrong so it super-carbonated. Tastes fine, it just takes forever to pour a glass because I have to wait for the foam to go down, and I'm only putting one bottle at a time in the fridge, because I'm kind of worried about them asploding.

It's a pretty good setup, though, and a good way to get to know your beer a little bit better.

With most of those kits, it's almost always better to buy good yeast than use the stuff it comes with.  It also helps to proof it first.  You'll get much better results.


Thanks. :)
 
2013-10-04 10:07:45 AM

the cake is a pie: My buddy got me a Mr. Beer kit for my bday last year, so I've been playing with that. They provide the wort in a can, lots of different varieties (they also provide recipes to make your own, but I'm not quite ready for that yet), but it still requires fermenting and all that.

I'm not very good at it, though. First batch came out perfect. Second batch the yeast was dead so it never fermented. Third batch seemed alright but it never carbonated in the bottles for whatever reason. Fourth batch was good except I got the sugar wrong so it super-carbonated. Tastes fine, it just takes forever to pour a glass because I have to wait for the foam to go down, and I'm only putting one bottle at a time in the fridge, because I'm kind of worried about them asploding.

It's a pretty good setup, though, and a good way to get to know your beer a little bit better.


Coolers make outstanding asploding beer containment vessels.  Its never a bad idea buy a second package of dry yeast to pitch later just in case the yeast you tried first is dead, but that point is moot if you didn't rinse your brewing equipment thoroughly enough after sterilizing it.
 
2013-10-04 10:08:10 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: KidneyStone: doublesecretprobation: no, it makes a batch of wort in 3.5 hours.  so can i.

^

^

^

 
2013-10-04 10:09:32 AM

Wellon Dowd: When it's done, they'll have produced a keg of their very own beer - though it still needs to be chilled, have yeast added and allowed to ferment for up to a week.

2.5 hours. 168 hours. What's the difference?


One tastes like beer, one tastes like grass filtered through a jockstrap.  It's the miracle of fermentation.

Yeast.  Bless you, boys!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-10-04 10:12:58 AM
You millennials are so impatient. When I was a kid we made apple cider which spent the winter fermenting in a barrel in the basement.
 
2013-10-04 10:14:21 AM
Or you could just get a couple bucks worth of materials and turn any juice into alcohol in just 3 days.

Bonus: a cute nerdy girl shows you how
 
2013-10-04 10:15:25 AM
What is the point of the machine? I thought home brewing was about controlling process and a DIY attitude.  This seems nothing like it.
 
2013-10-04 10:16:10 AM
Nice idea, I guess.  But as others have said:

 - Needs to make at least 5G of wort at a time to target homebrewers
 - Probably prohibitively expensive and less satisfying as compared to making a brewing stand yourself
 - They REALLY glossed over the whole cleaning aspect of the machine.  "Just throw the tub in the dishwasher."  Yeah.  Right.
 - Does it do multiple hop additions during the boil?
 - Does it do multi-step mashes?
 - yada yada yada
 
2013-10-04 10:21:21 AM

AngryDragon: One tastes like beer, one tastes like grass filtered through a jockstrap. It's the miracle of fermentation.


They drink unfermented malt extract in Iceland.  Tastes exactly like it sounds.  I thought it was a practical joke on tourists at first but it's everywhere.
 
2013-10-04 10:24:43 AM
While brewing my own beer sounds tempting, I will just stick to making Meade.  Its a lot more forgiving than beer for the most part.  It can be bottled, but I just leave it in the large carboys until I'm ready to siphon off a gallon or two to chill and drink.

Just finished drinking my latest 6 gallon batch of Orange Spiced Meade and have to start another one, takes 8-9 weeks start to finish.  There is a batch of Strawberry Melomel still fermenting after 3 months in the closet now.  It tastes wonderful but it hasn't started clearing yet. Starting to have to buy honey by the 5 gallon bucket (60lbs) to keep up with it all.
 
2013-10-04 10:29:57 AM
I've been doing barley wine with the pomegranates from my tree the last couple years. Its great but takes forever to mature flavor-wise. I've always wanted to get into beer but I don't have time for doing the full grain process. Does extract brewing produce decent quality beer? Should I just get a Mr. Beer kit and some quality yeast?
 
2013-10-04 10:35:49 AM

the cake is a pie: My buddy got me a Mr. Beer kit for my bday last year, so I've been playing with that. They provide the wort in a can, lots of different varieties (they also provide recipes to make your own, but I'm not quite ready for that yet), but it still requires fermenting and all that.

I'm not very good at it, though. First batch came out perfect. Second batch the yeast was dead so it never fermented. Third batch seemed alright but it never carbonated in the bottles for whatever reason. Fourth batch was good except I got the sugar wrong so it super-carbonated. Tastes fine, it just takes forever to pour a glass because I have to wait for the foam to go down, and I'm only putting one bottle at a time in the fridge, because I'm kind of worried about them asploding.

It's a pretty good setup, though, and a good way to get to know your beer a little bit better.


That's the whole point of their product.  Precise controlling of the quality.
 
2013-10-04 10:36:02 AM
Since when does brewing beer involve hours and hours of doing things?  Most of the time spent is waiting for things to happen.  The longest part is bottling.
 
2013-10-04 10:36:23 AM

mrlewish: What is the point of the machine? I thought home brewing was about controlling process and a DIY attitude.  This seems nothing like it.


The people who built it don't understand that while making/designing/building something like this is really, really cool, actually owning the finished product leaves a lot to be desired.

- if I want beer quickly, I'll buy it from the store
- if I want to brew beer, I'll brew it

This thing seems to sit in the no-man's-land between the two and likely won't hold much appeal. It's a neat personal project with almost no commercial application.
 
2013-10-04 10:39:07 AM

xalres: I've been doing barley wine with the pomegranates from my tree the last couple years. Its great but takes forever to mature flavor-wise. I've always wanted to get into beer but I don't have time for doing the full grain process. Does extract brewing produce decent quality beer? Should I just get a Mr. Beer kit and some quality yeast?


Mr beer is good if you've never brewed before to learn the basics. If you've been doing barely wine for a while you mostly know them already.

You probably already have a lot of the equipment too.

There are a lot of kits out there that are a step or 3 up from mr beer but still extract. They'll have small amounts of specialty grain just for flavoring that you steep for like 20 mins.

The one I see everywhere is Brewers Best (which I use) but your LHBS will usually have their own kits too.
 
2013-10-04 10:40:53 AM

Calehedron: While brewing my own beer sounds tempting, I will just stick to making Meade.  Its a lot more forgiving than beer for the most part.  It can be bottled, but I just leave it in the large carboys until I'm ready to siphon off a gallon or two to chill and drink.



Does the increase in air from draining the carboy affect the taste of the reamaining mead at all?
 
2013-10-04 10:41:43 AM

WinoRhino: abhorrent1: I want  This One

Build it for a heck of a lot cheaper. There's at least one farker I know who did so and there are plans online. Sure, it might not look all stainless-steely and nice like that, but it will save you $40k+ I imagine.


I don't suppose you have a link.  That would be an incredible birthday present.
 
2013-10-04 10:43:33 AM

Calehedron: I will just stick to making Meade


I made some Medea, but it killed all my children when I drank a different beverage.
 
2013-10-04 10:47:01 AM

Hack Patooey: Since when does brewing beer involve hours and hours of doing things?  Most of the time spent is waiting for things to happen.  The longest part is bottling.


I think their entire point is the precision and controls of the process.
 
2013-10-04 10:49:01 AM

baconbeard: The people who built it don't understand that while making/designing/building something like this is really, really cool, actually owning the finished product leaves a lot to be desired.

- if I want beer quickly, I'll buy it from the store
- if I want to brew beer, I'll brew it

This thing seems to sit in the no-man's-land between the two and likely won't hold much appeal. It's a neat personal project with almost no commercial application.


I do a little home brewing and know quite a few people who do a lot of brewing. In my experience when you get to doing whole grain brewing most of the fun is in trying new recipes, I doubt the setup bit has nearly the appeal. So if it makes clean-up easier especially, and allows more precise control and precision, I can see a lot of home brewers really liking it. Then again all of the brewers I know are scientists like me, so we also like shiny tech to do cool things with.

But it will only work for those guys if, as a poster up thread said, you can do things like add additional hops at different points, and things like that.
 
2013-10-04 10:52:52 AM

Big Beef Burrito: Calehedron: While brewing my own beer sounds tempting, I will just stick to making Meade.  Its a lot more forgiving than beer for the most part.  It can be bottled, but I just leave it in the large carboys until I'm ready to siphon off a gallon or two to chill and drink.


Does the increase in air from draining the carboy affect the taste of the reamaining mead at all?


It hasn't as far as I can tell.  The airlock is only off long enough to siphon and goes right back on.  I also haven't had a batch last long enough to be affected by oxygenation.  I have read of some that use a CO2 blanket when bottling, but I'm not going that far.  I stick to fairly basic fruit recipes that end up more on the sweeter side (1.015-1.040 SG) and it helps keep any off flavors from standing out.
 
2013-10-04 10:53:24 AM

baconbeard: mrlewish: What is the point of the machine? I thought home brewing was about controlling process and a DIY attitude.  This seems nothing like it.

The people who built it don't understand that while making/designing/building something like this is really, really cool, actually owning the finished product leaves a lot to be desired.

- if I want beer quickly, I'll buy it from the store
- if I want to brew beer, I'll brew it

This thing seems to sit in the no-man's-land between the two and likely won't hold much appeal. It's a neat personal project with almost no commercial application.


Yeah, you two have pretty much summed up my thoughts on it.  But let's play Devil's Advocate for a moment just to be silly...

I know some guys who have built themselves completely automated brewing rigs much like the oneabhorrent1linked to above. Someone could argue that when they brew beer using any automated rig, the machine is doing the brewing, they aren't. Does that make them different from the people who buy one of these box units?

I would say the difference is in the know-how involved. If someone is building their own rig, they need to understand the brewing process and what they're trying to accomplish. Someone who buys a pre-fab box unit like this probably wouldn't care about brewing their own beer in the first place, let alone enough about it to spend the money on something like this. By the time they learn the process with their own rudimentary equipment, they're no longer going to need or want an automated box brewing system like this one. Heck, when their first batch turns out weird, how in the world can you adjust you processes and troubleshoot your beer's quality if all you understand is "grain goes in here, hops in here, and then press this button"?
 
2013-10-04 10:55:42 AM
I think this is cool for the people that make some money, but don't have time to make the beer. If you can set it and forget it until cleanup time, that is a good one.
I need to watch my sparging so it doesn't overflow, boilovers on the stove, etc - so there is definitely some appeal here. I make 5 gallon batches, but would like to make smaller experimental beers more often.
 
2013-10-04 10:55:47 AM

you have pee hands: You just need a shiatload of bottles that you spend your whole life sterilizing and then you can just rotate, there will always be some fresh.

/really need to start kegging
//really need a basemen


That's one of the things that really sucks about living in Austin, none of the houses have basements. I have to ferment my beer in a temperature-controlled box freezer.
 
2013-10-04 11:08:08 AM

Hack Patooey: Since when does brewing beer involve hours and hours of doing things?  Most of the time spent is waiting for things to happen.  The longest part is bottling.


And the bottling point would be moot if you just get a kegging system. Since I've had my kegging system, I wouldn't even dream of bottling again.
 
2013-10-04 11:09:42 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: you have pee hands: You just need a shiatload of bottles that you spend your whole life sterilizing and then you can just rotate, there will always be some fresh.

/really need to start kegging
//really need a basemen

That's one of the things that really sucks about living in Austin, none of the houses have basements. I have to ferment my beer in a temperature-controlled box freezer.


If you are doing ales, I've had great success fermenting at room temperature (~69-70 degrees F).
 
2013-10-04 11:10:10 AM

Cortez the Killer: And the bottling point would be moot if you just get a kegging system. Since I've had my kegging system, I wouldn't even dream of bottling again.


I do both.I like to be able to bring a 6-pack over to a buddy's place or give away a case as a gift now and again.
 
2013-10-04 11:14:56 AM

WinoRhino: Cortez the Killer: And the bottling point would be moot if you just get a kegging system. Since I've had my kegging system, I wouldn't even dream of bottling again.

I do both.I like to be able to bring a 6-pack over to a buddy's place or give away a case as a gift now and again.


If I need to bottle, which is rare but does come up from time to time (your examples match mine), I use a bottling gun.
 
2013-10-04 11:26:03 AM
So you can make Coors at home now?
 
2013-10-04 11:27:53 AM

groppet: So you can make Coors at home now?


You don't have running water?
 
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