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(Forbes)   FAA furloughs 3,000 aviation inspectors and NTSB crash investigators. Which is not a good idea because it's hard to lay off one group without making more work for the other   (forbes.com) divider line 20
    More: Asinine, Federal Aviation Administration, National Transportation Safety Board, researchers, layoffs, International Civil Aviation Organization, treaty  
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2013-10-04 10:33:45 AM  
Remember folks: the GOP is GLAD the government has shut down. They wish we could shut down MORE of it.
 
2013-10-04 11:20:29 AM  
Only works one way subby.  When you lay off the investigators the inspectors no longer have to make thousands of emergency inspections of a particular bolt.
 
2013-10-04 11:24:05 AM  
Ran into one of these guys yesterday at the bar. He recommended not flying for a few weeks, at least. Seemed genuinely concerned, and after listening to him talk about the things they found that required attention EVERY DAY, I kinda agree with him.
 
2013-10-04 11:25:30 AM  
If one plane goes down during the shutdown, the backlash will be of epic proportions.
 
2013-10-04 11:25:32 AM  

mediablitz: Remember folks: the GOP is GLAD the government has shut down. They wish we could shut down MORE of it.


The bathtub is getting full.
 
2013-10-04 12:03:55 PM  
Meh, FAA Inspectors are worthless. All they care  about when doing ramp checks or base inspections is that your paperwork is in order. Seriously. You can have the biggest POS airplane sitting on the ramp dripping all kinds of fluids and if you show the FAA the inspections are current, they are cool with it.
 
2013-10-04 12:20:11 PM  

clutchcargo2002: Meh, FAA Inspectors are worthless. All they care  about when doing ramp checks or base inspections is that your paperwork is in order. Seriously. You can have the biggest POS airplane sitting on the ramp dripping all kinds of fluids and if you show the FAA the inspections are current, they are cool with it.


You're lazy.

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2013-10-04 12:34:13 PM  

mediablitz: clutchcargo2002: Meh, FAA Inspectors are worthless. All they care  about when doing ramp checks or base inspections is that your paperwork is in order. Seriously. You can have the biggest POS airplane sitting on the ramp dripping all kinds of fluids and if you show the FAA the inspections are current, they are cool with it.

You're lazy.

1/10


Not trolling. Been in aviation since 1989. It's from observation.
 
2013-10-04 12:37:05 PM  

mediablitz: If one plane goes down during the shutdown, the backlash will be of epic proportions.


The FAA had a 100% track record before I guess.
 
2013-10-04 12:40:18 PM  
Yep, this should end well.
 
2013-10-04 12:50:26 PM  

clutchcargo2002: mediablitz: clutchcargo2002: Meh, FAA Inspectors are worthless. All they care  about when doing ramp checks or base inspections is that your paperwork is in order. Seriously. You can have the biggest POS airplane sitting on the ramp dripping all kinds of fluids and if you show the FAA the inspections are current, they are cool with it.

You're lazy.

1/10

Not trolling. Been in aviation since 1989. It's from observation.


Yes, I'm SURE planes are dripping all kinds of fluids and no one cares. It's as if you think no one else knows people in aviation...
 
2013-10-04 12:51:10 PM  

MugzyBrown: mediablitz: If one plane goes down during the shutdown, the backlash will be of epic proportions.

The FAA had a 100% track record before I guess.


Nah. But a disaster during the shutdown would cause total ape-sh*ttery. Do you doubt it would?
 
2013-10-04 12:59:08 PM  

mediablitz: Yes, I'm SURE planes are dripping all kinds of fluids and no one cares. It's as if you think no one else knows people in aviation...


Ya know the pilots and airlines have a bit more riding on the line than an FAA inspector on the ground.

I don't think there will be issues.
 
2013-10-04 01:07:49 PM  

MugzyBrown: mediablitz: Yes, I'm SURE planes are dripping all kinds of fluids and no one cares. It's as if you think no one else knows people in aviation...

Ya know the pilots and airlines have a bit more riding on the line than an FAA inspector on the ground.

I don't think there will be issues.


Its about routine more than anything.  I agree with you that the whole "life and limb" incentive means that the pilots and airlines have more riding on the line, but what makes you think that profit, speed, efficiency, etc. aren't motivating factors as well?  "Oh, I have seen that before, its not a big deal" isn't a big deal until it BECOMES a big deal.

/not in the airlines
//in an industry where inspections aren't just daily, they are per use
 
2013-10-04 01:14:07 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: Its about routine more than anything.  I agree with you that the whole "life and limb" incentive means that the pilots and airlines have more riding on the line, but what makes you think that profit, speed, efficiency, etc. aren't motivating factors as well?  "Oh, I have seen that before, its not a big deal" isn't a big deal until it BECOMES a big deal.


I think if the FAA inspectors never came back there would not be a statistical change in the number of accidents.
 
2013-10-04 02:01:46 PM  

clutchcargo2002: mediablitz: clutchcargo2002: Meh, FAA Inspectors are worthless. All they care  about when doing ramp checks or base inspections is that your paperwork is in order. Seriously. You can have the biggest POS airplane sitting on the ramp dripping all kinds of fluids and if you show the FAA the inspections are current, they are cool with it.

You're lazy.

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Not trolling. Been in aviation since 1989. It's from observation.


That's scary, pal.

There was also a comment in another fark thread a couple of months ago in which someone's dad was a commercial jet mechanic by profession. He stated that he would never fly commercial.

And that was with the guys who are now staying at home still on the job.
 
2013-10-04 02:28:13 PM  
I say, let 'em crash.
 
2013-10-04 03:15:19 PM  
Welcome to the Tea Party's America.
 
2013-10-04 03:20:14 PM  

clutchcargo2002: Meh, FAA Inspectors are worthless. All they care about when doing ramp checks or base inspections is that your paperwork is in order. Seriously. You can have the biggest POS airplane sitting on the ramp dripping all kinds of fluids and if you show the FAA the inspections are current, they are cool with it.


They're inspectors, not engineers.  They're not paid to think; they're paid to make sure you comply with a process.  That process is written by someone else.  The best inspectors are observant and diligent, but I've NEVER met one that made a spot executive decision, public sector or private, because that's a good way to CAUSE problems.

If you have an issue with the FAA inspection process, then you'll want to take your complaints higher up.  Unfortunately, I think any request to submit your complaints to "management" will be directed to a windowless office where the only thing behind the desk is an industrial shredder.
 
2013-10-04 03:46:28 PM  
Why, are we worried this might lead to airlines cutting corners?

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