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(Huffington Post)   3,300-year-old ancient city discovered beneath a mound in Iraq. Or as 3,300 years ago is called in Iraq - yesterday   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 36
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2013-10-04 10:36:24 AM
And you can thank the good old USA for that subby.
 
2013-10-04 11:17:27 AM
subby, 3300 years ago Islam had not even been invented yet, and nor had the religion it stole most of its ideas from, Christianity. The only people in that region were the Jews, who lived peacefully in Isreal, inventing what we now call language and number.
 
2013-10-04 11:31:56 AM
When I was in Iraq, it only looked like a backwater at first glance.  Then you realize that most adults have two or more cell phones, with at least two sim cards for each one.  Computers in many houses.  Satellite dishes, even!  Heck, I was even told by more than one local that he would shower me with dinars if I could bring him a bottle of Jack Daniels.  Yes, they'd ask for it by name.  If that isn't a sign of civilization, then what is?

The biggest reason the place is a shiathole is because you got three different groups who all think they're they only ones who pray to their god right.
 
2013-10-04 11:34:28 AM
So that's where we left it...
 
2013-10-04 11:35:48 AM
3300 years ago the Great Pyramid of Giza was already over a thousand years old, the first dynasty of China had ruled for centuries, and you could ride on a Phoenician trading ship anywhere from England to South Africa. The depth of history is sometimes scary.
 
2013-10-04 11:36:03 AM

Cpl.D: When I was in Iraq, it only looked like a backwater at first glance.  Then you realize that most adults have two or more cell phones, with at least two sim cards for each one.  Computers in many houses.  Satellite dishes, even!  Heck, I was even told by more than one local that he would shower me with dinars if I could bring him a bottle of Jack Daniels.  Yes, they'd ask for it by name.  If that isn't a sign of civilization, then what is?


Jack Daniels? Civilisation? Pffffttt!!!1
 
2013-10-04 11:37:04 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: 3300 years ago the Great Pyramid of Giza was already over a thousand years old, the first dynasty of China had ruled for centuries, and you could ride on a Phoenician trading ship anywhere from England to South Africa. The depth of history is sometimes scary.


To you americans, yah. That's because your history books are more like little pamphets.
 
2013-10-04 11:38:31 AM
Very cool
 
2013-10-04 11:41:36 AM

THE GREAT NAME: To The Escape Zeppelin!: 3300 years ago the Great Pyramid of Giza was already over a thousand years old, the first dynasty of China had ruled for centuries, and you could ride on a Phoenician trading ship anywhere from England to South Africa. The depth of history is sometimes scary.

To you americans, yah. That's because your history books are more like little pamphets.


Very true. My parents are Irish and there's a tomb near my grandparent's house that's thousands of years old and nobody thinks anything of it. Here in the US finding anything from the 1700's is ancient.
 
2013-10-04 11:44:59 AM
Eurasia. Where the history comes from
 
2013-10-04 11:45:12 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: THE GREAT NAME: To The Escape Zeppelin!: 3300 years ago the Great Pyramid of Giza was already over a thousand years old, the first dynasty of China had ruled for centuries, and you could ride on a Phoenician trading ship anywhere from England to South Africa. The depth of history is sometimes scary.

To you americans, yah. That's because your history books are more like little pamphets.

Very true. My parents are Irish and there's a tomb near my grandparent's house that's thousands of years old and nobody thinks anything of it. Here in the US finding anything from the 1700's is ancient.


I guess there's some history with the native americans. But government handouts turned them into junkies and now they just live from fix to fix. Sad, really.
 
2013-10-04 11:49:14 AM

THE GREAT NAME: To The Escape Zeppelin!: 3300 years ago the Great Pyramid of Giza was already over a thousand years old, the first dynasty of China had ruled for centuries, and you could ride on a Phoenician trading ship anywhere from England to South Africa. The depth of history is sometimes scary.

To you americans, yah. That's because your history books are more like little pamphets.


You need to watch an episode of "How the Universe Works".  The history books of human beings can fit on a bar napkin.

Pull back on the smug a bit there, Smedley.
 
2013-10-04 11:58:23 AM
Ashurbanipal approves, seeks head of Idu king for his garden trophy collection.
 
2013-10-04 11:58:59 AM

Dr. Kefarkian: THE GREAT NAME: To The Escape Zeppelin!: 3300 years ago the Great Pyramid of Giza was already over a thousand years old, the first dynasty of China had ruled for centuries, and you could ride on a Phoenician trading ship anywhere from England to South Africa. The depth of history is sometimes scary.

To you americans, yah. That's because your history books are more like little pamphets.

You need to watch an episode of "How the Universe Works".  The history books of human beings can fit on a bar napkin.


History refers to the recorded activitues of human beings. You are talking about pre-history, or cosmology.

Pull back on the smug a bit there, Smedley.

Settle down, Spanky.
 
2013-10-04 12:16:07 PM

THE GREAT NAME: Dr. Kefarkian: THE GREAT NAME: To The Escape Zeppelin!: 3300 years ago the Great Pyramid of Giza was already over a thousand years old, the first dynasty of China had ruled for centuries, and you could ride on a Phoenician trading ship anywhere from England to South Africa. The depth of history is sometimes scary.

To you americans, yah. That's because your history books are more like little pamphets.

You need to watch an episode of "How the Universe Works".  The history books of human beings can fit on a bar napkin.

History refers to the recorded activitues of human beings. You are talking about pre-history, or cosmology.

Pull back on the smug a bit there, Smedley.

Settle down, Spanky.


Duly noted, Slappy
 
2013-10-04 12:24:15 PM
In before Skippy reference.
 
2013-10-04 12:29:27 PM
3300 year old ancient city? Does that mean 3300 years ago it was already an ancient city?
 
2013-10-04 12:37:42 PM

THE GREAT NAME: subby, 3300 years ago Islam had not even been invented yet, and nor had the religion it stole most of its ideas from, Christianity. The only people in that region were the Jews, who lived peacefully in Isreal, inventing what we now call language and number.


You are trolling, right? There is no evidence that Jews existed 3300 years ago beyond self serving mythology, and the ancient Semitic tribes who worshiped Yalweh along with other gods were hardly peaceful.
 
2013-10-04 12:38:03 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: 3300 year old ancient city? Does that mean 3300 years ago it was already an ancient city?


Maybe. If it thrived 3300 years old it must have earlier roots.
 
2013-10-04 12:40:37 PM

Slaxl: Quantum Apostrophe: 3300 year old ancient city? Does that mean 3300 years ago it was already an ancient city?

Maybe. If it thrived 3300 years old it must have earlier roots.


Yeah, but what NAME wants to know is, do the cuffs mtch the collar?
 
2013-10-04 12:41:46 PM

HairBolus: THE GREAT NAME: subby, 3300 years ago Islam had not even been invented yet, and nor had the religion it stole most of its ideas from, Christianity. The only people in that region were the Jews, who lived peacefully in Isreal, inventing what we now call language and number.

You are trolling, right? There is no evidence that Jews existed 3300 years ago beyond self serving mythology, and the ancient Semitic tribes who worshiped Yalweh along with other gods were hardly peaceful.


Yalweh, that's just your opinion, man
 
2013-10-04 12:42:00 PM

Slaxl: Quantum Apostrophe: 3300 year old ancient city? Does that mean 3300 years ago it was already an ancient city?

Maybe. If it thrived 3300 years old it must have earlier roots.


Then what's special about the number 3300?
 
2013-10-04 12:54:39 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Slaxl: Quantum Apostrophe: 3300 year old ancient city? Does that mean 3300 years ago it was already an ancient city?

Maybe. If it thrived 3300 years old it must have earlier roots.

Then what's special about the number 3300?


It's nice and round.
 
2013-10-04 01:40:55 PM
How long did it last before it got car-bombed?
 
2013-10-04 01:47:24 PM
Is this the place where Conan drunkenly punched the camel?
 
2013-10-04 03:51:24 PM

THE GREAT NAME: subby, 3300 years ago Islam had not even been invented yet, and nor had the religion it stole most of its ideas from, Christianity. The only people in that region were the Jews, who lived peacefully in Isreal, inventing what we now call language and number.


3300 years ago they were wandering around a desert. Soon afterwards they reached Caanan and committed a brutal genocide against them and took over the land. Not really a peaceful time there. Perhaps you are confused? If you are mentally retarded though I am sorry about being mean.
 
2013-10-04 06:18:46 PM
Cpl.D:The biggest reason the place is a shiathole is because you got three different groups who all think they're they only ones who pray to their god right.

We have a winner.  Iraq is not a natural country, it's three groups of ever so slightly different religious people mashed together.  Traditionally those three groups have enjoyed slaughtering each other.   So they're assholes.  The only way to keep some semblance of order would be to be the biggest asshole around.  Enter stage left Saddam Hussein, who at times struggled to keep the groups in order.

Iraq's portrayal as some medieval shiathole in the middle of nowhere full of mud huts is a recent thing; people forget it took three solid days of bombing to dent their cell phone network.

I reckon in another 5 years we'll have package holidays there and boat rides up and down stretches of the Tigris.
 
2013-10-04 07:30:57 PM
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2013-10-04 07:47:15 PM

Slaxl: Quantum Apostrophe: Slaxl: Quantum Apostrophe: 3300 year old ancient city? Does that mean 3300 years ago it was already an ancient city?

Maybe. If it thrived 3300 years old it must have earlier roots.

Then what's special about the number 3300?

It's nice and round.


So are boobies. Um ... what was I saying again?
 
2013-10-04 07:58:29 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Slaxl: Quantum Apostrophe: 3300 year old ancient city? Does that mean 3300 years ago it was already an ancient city?

Maybe. If it thrived 3300 years old it must have earlier roots.

Then what's special about the number 3300?


Unless you are expecting, "3,321-year, 4-month, and 12-day-old city", nothing; look up "significant digits".
 
2013-10-04 08:05:36 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Quantum Apostrophe: Slaxl: Quantum Apostrophe: 3300 year old ancient city? Does that mean 3300 years ago it was already an ancient city?

Maybe. If it thrived 3300 years old it must have earlier roots.

Then what's special about the number 3300?

Unless you are expecting, "3,321-year, 4-month, and 12-day-old city", nothing; look up "significant digits".


Duh. That's not the point. The sentence is ambiguous, was the city ancient 3300 years ago already? Do you not get it? I don't know how to be clearer.

What makes the number 3300 special? If it was ancient 3300 years ago, how old is the city now?
 
2013-10-04 09:16:55 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: 3300 years ago the Great Pyramid of Giza was already over a thousand years old, the first dynasty of China had ruled for centuries, and you could ride on a Phoenician trading ship anywhere from England to South Africa. The depth of history is sometimes scary.


Also, this city is like the mid-point of Mesopotamian history.  This would be like us finding a city from the 1830s in the USA.
 
2013-10-05 12:23:44 AM
Headline win.
 
2013-10-05 10:25:32 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: ArcadianRefugee: Quantum Apostrophe: Slaxl: Quantum Apostrophe: 3300 year old ancient city? Does that mean 3300 years ago it was already an ancient city?

Maybe. If it thrived 3300 years old it must have earlier roots.

Then what's special about the number 3300?

Unless you are expecting, "3,321-year, 4-month, and 12-day-old city", nothing; look up "significant digits".

Duh. That's not the point. The sentence is ambiguous, was the city ancient 3300 years ago already? Do you not get it? I don't know how to be clearer.

What makes the number 3300 special? If it was ancient 3300 years ago, how old is the city now?




It is unknown.
 
2013-10-05 06:10:13 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: ArcadianRefugee: Quantum Apostrophe: Slaxl: Quantum Apostrophe: 3300 year old ancient city? Does that mean 3300 years ago it was already an ancient city?

Maybe. If it thrived 3300 years old it must have earlier roots.

Then what's special about the number 3300?

Unless you are expecting, "3,321-year, 4-month, and 12-day-old city", nothing; look up "significant digits".

Duh. That's not the point. The sentence is ambiguous, was the city ancient 3300 years ago already? Do you not get it? I don't know how to be clearer.

What makes the number 3300 special? If it was ancient 3300 years ago, how old is the city now?


Maybe the last time the city was active was 3300 years ago and it was already ancient at the time. Maybe the first mention of the city was 3300 years ago and it was already described as "ancient". Maybe it's merely a form of redundancy like "70-year-old pensioner" (if he's 70, we already know he's a pensioner).

Maybe your "3300 ancient" comment was Fark-funny the first time and then you beat it to death by the time I got here.
 
2013-10-05 11:05:16 PM

THE GREAT NAME: subby, 3300 years ago Islam had not even been invented yet, and nor had the religion it stole most of its ideas from, Christianity. The only people in that region were the Jews, who lived peacefully in Isreal, inventing what we now call language and number.


The Levant was under control/dispute of the Egyptians/Hittites 3300 years ago. There were no Jews or Israel at that time, and certainly none in northern Iraq (Assyria, or old Akkadia) -- at least, none that we would define as a cohesive culture.
 
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