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(NYPost)   Biker who organized the West Side highway wild motorbike rally that terrorized a NYC family would never get in someone's face and taunt them.. he only likes to taunt the NYPD   (nypost.com) divider line 312
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2013-10-04 12:17:34 AM
These bikers sound like Grade A assholes.


"There were dozens of cops here on Sunday," said Jimmy Katsaros, 50, who works next door at GoPro, a plumbing firl.

What's a firl?
 
2013-10-04 12:27:19 AM

fusillade762: These bikers sound like Grade A assholes.


I completely concur with your assessment of these assholes.
 
2013-10-04 12:34:47 AM
I read this morning in one of the local free subway rags that the police dropped the charges against the guy who turned himself in.  Their reason was that they want to seek additional charges.

/Metro I think
 
2013-10-04 12:35:38 AM
"Motorcyclist accused of touching off what evolved into a bloody confrontation between an SUV driver and a throng of bikers was charged Wednesday with reckless driving while investigators searched for key players in the driver's beating."

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2013-10-04 12:45:43 AM

fusillade762: These bikers sound like Grade A assholes.


"There were dozens of cops here on Sunday," said Jimmy Katsaros, 50, who works next door at GoPro, a plumbing firl.

What's a firl?


If you have to ask, you don't want to know.
 
2013-10-04 01:02:16 AM
fusillade762:

What's a firl?

Ten bucks, father, just like uptown.
 
2013-10-04 01:02:41 AM
If these events are being publicized on websites and social media, it sounds like a great opportunity for the police to set up surprise roadblocks to box them in, along with some cameras along the route first to catch those driving recklessly.
 
2013-10-04 01:09:14 AM

Vectron: "Motorcyclist accused of touching off what evolved into a bloody confrontation between an SUV driver and a throng of bikers was charged Wednesday with reckless driving while investigators searched for key players in the driver's beating."

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We get it, he's black.
 
2013-10-04 02:24:17 AM
FTFA: There are lots if reckless drivers in cars too."

I'll proofread articles for just $25/10k words.  EIP.
 
2013-10-04 02:29:31 AM

fusillade762: Vectron: "Motorcyclist accused of touching off what evolved into a bloody confrontation between an SUV driver and a throng of bikers was charged Wednesday with reckless driving while investigators searched for key players in the driver's beating."

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We get it, he's black.


That could have been Obama's son.
 
2013-10-04 02:37:31 AM
Pack mentality. Kill the ring leader and this will end.
 
2013-10-04 02:37:59 AM
The lesson here is that it's not enough to run over a few of these bikers if you are surrounded. You have to run over all of them.
 
2013-10-04 02:38:13 AM
They would have been picking that guy's skin out from my wheel wells.  Newton's Second Law of Motion is a real biatch when you're on a bike.
 
2013-10-04 02:44:40 AM
Yep.  I had guessed right in the previous thread.  Crotch-rocket public nuisance assholes is what I thought, and this confirms it.

Yes, I know some Harley riders can be dicks, too.  But when there's a crowd of bikes buzzing in and out of traffic being attention whores, 99% of the time it will be crotch rockets.
 
2013-10-04 02:46:39 AM

OgreMagi: Yep.  I had guessed right in the previous thread.  Crotch-rocket public nuisance assholes is what I thought, and this confirms it.

Yes, I know some Harley riders can be dicks, too.  But when there's a crowd of bikes buzzing in and out of traffic being attention whores, 99% of the time it will be crotch rockets.


Oops.  Forgot I had made that observation on a different website.  So don't bother trying to find the previous thread.
 
2013-10-04 02:58:08 AM
"his son, who scampered through a back entrance of the home Thursday and hid in the house to avoid a reporter."

Truly a dangerous rebel
 
2013-10-04 03:05:06 AM
The bikers keep trying to defend themselves, but if you are in your car, and they intentionally slow and stop you, and you are surrounded by 50 bikers, and you have your wife and kid in the car, damn right you're going to get out of there. Why are they stopping you? What do they want from you? Instead of Standing Your Ground, I see this as a variation - Getting the F out of there By Any Means Necessary.
 
2013-10-04 03:06:57 AM

OgreMagi: Yep. I had guessed right in the previous thread. Crotch-rocket public nuisance assholes is what I thought, and this confirms it.


Did you miss the series of deleted videos that showed how they were riding before the incident? I've never seen a group of riders come anywhere close to being as bad as them. Like take for instance the first video in this link from 2:15 - 3:40.

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-footage-that-the-nyc-bikers-did nt -want-you-to-see-1435594427/1436603736

/also, are ATVs allowed on the streets in NY?
 
2013-10-04 03:10:43 AM
I'm confused about the 'innocent biker' that got maimed.

They say he was only looking to help his friend who got 'rear ended'.

If that's the case, why was he on the side of the suv, near the guard rail?  Didn't his friend get hit in the middle of the freeway?  If his friend fell, it would have been there, not to the side where the SUV was...If the guy didn't fall off his motorcycle, then why would he check to see if his friend was alright?

If you are going to lie, why not say he got off to take pictures of the SUV's bumper after the fender bender?  That would at least make sense.

/Can someone do a photoshop of his Reckless picture + Consequences = hospital bed picture?
 
2013-10-04 03:15:18 AM
I didn't see this story the first time it showed up on Fark. Had to go and look up the incident. I don't really see anything that the suv did wrong. I would be scared in the same situation. The biker who got run over had his driving privileges revoked till 2017. He was cited for driving while revoked a week before this. He should get arrested if he survives. Fark him and this punk who organized this mob violence.
 
2013-10-04 03:15:23 AM
Atvs are not allowed and some of the dirt bikes arnt either and many many of the people that have the bigger bikes arnt licensed  (friends who are cops, and living next to a bike club "President" and having real thin walls tells me this)

They like playing touch tag with the cops, and its real hard to catch them much less bust them. and for the bikeboys its like counting cue
 
2013-10-04 03:18:07 AM
"I feel that most of the fault was with the driver of the SUV. Maybe it could have all been talked out. He didn't have to hit the gas and take out everyone. That was reckless."

Yeah, when people are smashing the windows of your car in, you should definitely try to talk it out.

Frankly, it's kind of a shame more of them weren't hospitalized.
 
2013-10-04 03:18:38 AM
Actually a new video has been added to that page at the very bottom. Check out the last video at 1:15, they are lucky this seems to be their first run in with getting ran over... If I was in that same predicament as Range Rover I'd likely floor it as well.

Sullyville: and you are surrounded by 50 bikers


Take a look at video 5 to grasp just how many of them there are. The gas station they are currently at is packed with em, then when he turns around and starts cutting between cars to get across the street that gas station is packed with them as well.
 
2013-10-04 03:22:32 AM

Tenatra: OgreMagi: Yep. I had guessed right in the previous thread. Crotch-rocket public nuisance assholes is what I thought, and this confirms it.

Did you miss the series of deleted videos that showed how they were riding before the incident? I've never seen a group of riders come anywhere close to being as bad as them. Like take for instance the first video in this link from 2:15 - 3:40.

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-footage-that-the-nyc-bikers-did nt -want-you-to-see-1435594427/1436603736

/also, are ATVs allowed on the streets in NY?


I hadn't seen that one.  Those idiots ride with Darwin.
 
2013-10-04 03:28:04 AM
I'm trying to understand the assumptions that you all seem to be holding - So, if some people are being assholes and blocking the road, it's OK to hit one of them with your car. Then, when the friends of the person you just hit react with anger, it's OK to run them over, nearly killing at least one of them...

To sum up, if people are being assholes and blocking your way, it's OK to get all murderous...


/I wonder if that holds true if it were a big group of runners blocking traffic, not bikers...
 
2013-10-04 03:30:13 AM

ScaryBottles: "his son, who scampered through a back entrance of the home Thursday and hid in the house to avoid a reporter."

Truly a dangerous rebel


He's one of those dangerous gang members from West Side Story. When he's not scampering, he's either prancing or dancing.
 
2013-10-04 03:33:19 AM

JustTheTip: I'm trying to understand the assumptions that you all seem to be holding - So, if some people are being assholes and blocking the road, it's OK to hit one of them with your car. Then, when the friends of the person you just hit react with anger, it's OK to run them over, nearly killing at least one of them...

To sum up, if people are being assholes and blocking your way, it's OK to get all murderous...


/I wonder if that holds true if it were a big group of runners blocking traffic, not bikers...


When you are an extreme threat to public safety (see the video), don't be surprised when you get your ass run over after you and your idiot homies scare the crap out of a family minding their own business.

After reviewing some of the videos I support a baseball bat fueled ass whooping.
 
2013-10-04 03:33:24 AM

JustTheTip: I'm trying to understand the assumptions that you all seem to be holding - So, if some people are being assholes and blocking the road, it's OK to hit one of them with your car. Then, when the friends of the person you just hit react with anger, it's OK to run them over, nearly killing at least one of them...

To sum up, if people are being assholes and blocking your way, it's OK to get all murderous...


/I wonder if that holds true if it were a big group of runners blocking traffic, not bikers...




Well if a runner causes an accident and the runners swarm your suv slashing tires. Then I think I might panic too.
 
2013-10-04 03:36:56 AM
He is couragous because he is on the bike. That is why...
 
2013-10-04 03:43:22 AM

JustTheTip: I'm trying to understand the assumptions that you all seem to be holding - So, if some people are being assholes and blocking the road, it's OK to hit one of them with your car. Then, when the friends of the person you just hit react with anger, it's OK to run them over, nearly killing at least one of them...

To sum up, if people are being assholes and blocking your way, it's OK to get all murderous...


/I wonder if that holds true if it were a big group of runners blocking traffic, not bikers...


Probably the only reason this even in court is to squelch the idea that if it were a big group of runners blocking traffic (or even a big group of commando bicyclists blocking traffic) nobody will think "BUT I FELT THREATENED!!!" was a good defense to running a few of them over with his/her SUV.

Because otherwise, no, not even then.
 
2013-10-04 03:46:48 AM

JustTheTip: So, if some people are being assholes and blocking the road, it's OK to hit one of them with your car. Then, when the friends of the person you just hit react with anger, it's OK to run them over, nearly killing at least one of them.


The videos actually show the reverse.  The motorcycle hit the Range Rover when it did a break check.  It was the instigator.

The proper thing would for both parties to pull to the side of the road and calmly call the police.  Instead, the motorcyclists turned into a violent mob and attacked the Ranger Rover.

I have no problem using lethal force against a violent mob.  I wouldn't have dropped into reverse to inflict mass casualties like the ITGs in some of these threads, but I sure would have aimed for a gap caring little if it was wide enough to get through.
 
2013-10-04 03:50:29 AM

Gyrfalcon: JustTheTip: I'm trying to understand the assumptions that you all seem to be holding - So, if some people are being assholes and blocking the road, it's OK to hit one of them with your car. Then, when the friends of the person you just hit react with anger, it's OK to run them over, nearly killing at least one of them...

To sum up, if people are being assholes and blocking your way, it's OK to get all murderous...


/I wonder if that holds true if it were a big group of runners blocking traffic, not bikers...

Probably the only reason this even in court is to squelch the idea that if it were a big group of runners blocking traffic (or even a big group of commando bicyclists blocking traffic) nobody will think "BUT I FELT THREATENED!!!" was a good defense to running a few of them over with his/her SUV.

Because otherwise, no, not even then.




Did you watch the video? The biker caused the accident. His pals swarm the suv. A sane person would feel threaten and try to flee.
 
2013-10-04 04:02:39 AM
How to rear end a bike:

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No, it did not end well.
 
2013-10-04 04:05:50 AM

All Latest: How to rear end a bike:

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No, it did not end well.


I worked with a guy who was rear ended by an idiot on a sports bike (my coworker was on a cruiser).  He lost one leg and 90% of his sight.  The crotch rocket moron died instantly.
 
2013-10-04 04:08:27 AM
What planet do these assh*les live on?
 
2013-10-04 04:18:42 AM

Badafuco: What planet do these assh*les live on?




In thier mom's basement. I bet the parents of the organizer think thier boy can do no wrong. That's the impression I got from the article.
 
2013-10-04 04:23:11 AM
Someone needs to make a kickstarter to bring back the game Road Rash with the option of playing as innocent bystanders just trying to get from point A to point B.
 
2013-10-04 04:25:44 AM

All Latest: How to rear end a bike:

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No, it did not end well.


NOT a bike
Clearly that is a scooter.  Probably a gimpy old 150cc at max.  Should not have been on highway.
//Seriously, I get the hi sign from bikers, but I don't consider myself one
//not until I have an actual motorcycle.
//....soon.
 
2013-10-04 04:26:57 AM
The bikers were initially trying to slow the driver down because they were trying to pass him and they had a large group of bikes. The driver got scared and tried to get out of there and then hit one of the bikers. The bikers then tried to get him to stop to pull over and exchange insurance information. He then fled the scene and the bikers chased him down and then assaulted the SUV.

There is a culture in New York City of biking and it has existed for years. There was a large group of bikers just like this driving down 5th avenue and it wasn't even a problem. These guys are usually from uptown and they ride around in groups like this and there has never been an issue. I bet that this incident causes a crackdown on motorcycles throughout the city.

On The Bill O'Reilly Show he had a segment about this in which he said the bikers were terrorizing this innocent man and his family without even covering the whole story. No wonder people are scared and afraid. We really gotta stop being so afraid of one another in this country.
 
2013-10-04 04:30:13 AM

crazydave023: The bikers were initially trying to slow the driver down because they were trying to pass him and they had a large group of bikes. The driver got scared and tried to get out of there and then hit one of the bikers. The bikers then tried to get him to stop to pull over and exchange insurance information. He then fled the scene and the bikers chased him down and then assaulted the SUV.

There is a culture in New York City of biking and it has existed for years. There was a large group of bikers just like this driving down 5th avenue and it wasn't even a problem. These guys are usually from uptown and they ride around in groups like this and there has never been an issue. I bet that this incident causes a crackdown on motorcycles throughout the city.

On The Bill O'Reilly Show he had a segment about this in which he said the bikers were terrorizing this innocent man and his family without even covering the whole story. No wonder people are scared and afraid. We really gotta stop being so afraid of one another in this country.


If you have to allow someone down in order to pass them you probably don't need to pass them.
 
2013-10-04 04:32:36 AM

crazydave023: The bikers were initially trying to slow the driver down because they were trying to pass him and they had a large group of bikes. The driver got scared and tried to get out of there and then hit one of the bikers. The bikers then tried to get him to stop to pull over and exchange insurance information. He then fled the scene and the bikers chased him down and then assaulted the SUV.

There is a culture in New York City of biking and it has existed for years. There was a large group of bikers just like this driving down 5th avenue and it wasn't even a problem. These guys are usually from uptown and they ride around in groups like this and there has never been an issue. I bet that this incident causes a crackdown on motorcycles throughout the city.

On The Bill O'Reilly Show he had a segment about this in which he said the bikers were terrorizing this innocent man and his family without even covering the whole story. No wonder people are scared and afraid. We really gotta stop being so afraid of one another in this country.




Put down the crack pipe and watch the video. The first biker to get hit caused the incident. Brake checking is not passing.
 
2013-10-04 04:35:41 AM

crazydave023: The bikers were initially trying to slow the driver down because they were trying to pass him and they had a large group of bikes. The driver got scared and tried to get out of there and then hit one of the bikers. The bikers then tried to get him to stop to pull over and exchange insurance information. He then fled the scene and the bikers chased him down and then assaulted the SUV.

There is a culture in New York City of biking and it has existed for years. There was a large group of bikers just like this driving down 5th avenue and it wasn't even a problem. These guys are usually from uptown and they ride around in groups like this and there has never been an issue. I bet that this incident causes a crackdown on motorcycles throughout the city.

On The Bill O'Reilly Show he had a segment about this in which he said the bikers were terrorizing this innocent man and his family without even covering the whole story. No wonder people are scared and afraid. We really gotta stop being so afraid of one another in this country.


Could you maybe throw a couple of cites out there for those of us that only watched the limited video showing a large group of Aholes on bikes blocking the entire roadway where one of them braked into the SUV, than then a large group of them proceeded to stalk him until they were able to beat the snot out of him...please?
 
2013-10-04 04:44:10 AM
When I see Harley riders get together (except Sturgis) it's usually for a charity ride. I'd enjoy seeing these two groups have to mix it up.

The crotchers would be toast. Or burnt rice.
 
2013-10-04 04:53:06 AM

crazydave023: The bikers were initially trying to slow the driver down because they were trying to pass him


Because.... they're super heroes on their way to valiantly defending the innocent... Have soul exclusivity to the use of the road?

"Won't someone  please think of the poor, defenseless, douchebags!?"

Anyone identifying as a "biker" and professing to "living the biker lifestyle" please remove yourself from the gene-pool in some dramatic fashion. You're not a special snowflake. You're a twerp on a vehicle.
 
2013-10-04 04:55:09 AM

CasperImproved: crazydave023: The bikers were initially trying to slow the driver down because they were trying to pass him and they had a large group of bikes. The driver got scared and tried to get out of there and then hit one of the bikers. The bikers then tried to get him to stop to pull over and exchange insurance information. He then fled the scene and the bikers chased him down and then assaulted the SUV.

There is a culture in New York City of biking and it has existed for years. There was a large group of bikers just like this driving down 5th avenue and it wasn't even a problem. These guys are usually from uptown and they ride around in groups like this and there has never been an issue. I bet that this incident causes a crackdown on motorcycles throughout the city.

On The Bill O'Reilly Show he had a segment about this in which he said the bikers were terrorizing this innocent man and his family without even covering the whole story. No wonder people are scared and afraid. We really gotta stop being so afraid of one another in this country.

Could you maybe throw a couple of cites out there for those of us that only watched the limited video showing a large group of Aholes on bikes blocking the entire roadway where one of them braked into the SUV, than then a large group of them proceeded to stalk him until they were able to beat the snot out of him...please?


You would've had to have seen NYC public access television where one of the witnesses called in and told the entire story. In addition, one of the bikers called in and told his side of the story. This coupled with the fact that I personally saw the same bikers mere minutes before they got on the highway and this incident. I literally saw them from my window like five minutes before the whole thing went down.

/Not excusing the bikers behavior. They definitely handled it wrong. Just trying to let people know the whole story.
 
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2013-10-04 05:16:56 AM

crazydave023: Just trying to let people know the whole story.


You mean like in the video where the first asshole gets hit because he applies his break real close to the SUV's front bumper?  Is that part of the "whole story"?

And now that poor douchebag will have to shiat in a bag.  I'm all torn up inside. It's just killing me, thinking of him and his broken legs, lying there in his own filth. What a terrible fate. Or, you know, not really at all.

/more of those asshole should have been run over...
//forward-reverse-forward, and repeat until the way is clear through these wastes of air.
 
2013-10-04 05:20:20 AM

crazydave023: CasperImproved: crazydave023: The bikers were initially trying to slow the driver down because they were trying to pass him and they had a large group of bikes. The driver got scared and tried to get out of there and then hit one of the bikers. The bikers then tried to get him to stop to pull over and exchange insurance information. He then fled the scene and the bikers chased him down and then assaulted the SUV.

There is a culture in New York City of biking and it has existed for years. There was a large group of bikers just like this driving down 5th avenue and it wasn't even a problem. These guys are usually from uptown and they ride around in groups like this and there has never been an issue. I bet that this incident causes a crackdown on motorcycles throughout the city.

On The Bill O'Reilly Show he had a segment about this in which he said the bikers were terrorizing this innocent man and his family without even covering the whole story. No wonder people are scared and afraid. We really gotta stop being so afraid of one another in this country.

Could you maybe throw a couple of cites out there for those of us that only watched the limited video showing a large group of Aholes on bikes blocking the entire roadway where one of them braked into the SUV, than then a large group of them proceeded to stalk him until they were able to beat the snot out of him...please?

You would've had to have seen NYC public access television where one of the witnesses called in and told the entire story. In addition, one of the bikers called in and told his side of the story. This coupled with the fact that I personally saw the same bikers mere minutes before they got on the highway and this incident. I literally saw them from my window like five minutes before the whole thing went down.

/Not excusing the bikers behavior. They definitely handled it wrong. Just trying to let people know the whole story.


5.6789/10. one point deducted for copycatting, and one for poor gaslighting. Otherwise solid breadnbutter work. The Guild will not be issuing you a letter at this time but consider yourself a prospect for the farm, kid. AAA work if ever there was such.
 
2013-10-04 05:23:19 AM
Stop referring to them as bikers.  They are not bikers.
Assholes yes.  Bikers no.

/biker
 
2013-10-04 05:28:34 AM

crazydave023: The bikers were initially trying to slow the driver down because they were trying to pass him and they had a large group of bikes.


Assuming this is true, what the fark gives them the right to force other drivers to slow down?  If a group of cars are trying to travel in a group somewhere, do they got to dictate how other people drive?

Last weekend I took my family to Lake Tahoe.  We headed to Emerald Bay and found a vista point where a couple dozen people had parked to enjoy the view.  Then the group of Harley riders showed up,  A bunch of middle aged assholes with Sons of Anarchy vests and loud bikes.  The noise from the bikes was so loud I literally could not talk to my wife five feet away.  When they parked they were still shouting too each other, I'm assuming because their ears were ringing from the noise.  I don't generally consider myself a prude, but I don't need to hear two middle age assholes shouting expletives to each other about a coont in a Nissan and how they want to fark that biatch, while I'm trying to enjoy a picturesque view with my family.

I realize not all motorcycle riders act like this.  But holy shiat, if motorcycle riders really want us to share the road with them they should really mount a campaign amongst themselves to encourage each other to stop being assholes.
 
2013-10-04 05:34:13 AM
There were fifty? Now I understand all the hubbabaloo about high capacity magazines.

All men are created equal, but some grow up to be punks.

I wonder if the driver is considering gun ownership before his next west side jaunt.
 
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