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(Forbes)   House GOP: We're getting more part time jobs than full time because of Obamacare. Walmart: Hey guys, we're converting 35,000 part timers to full time two days after the ACA launch. Problem?   (forbes.com) divider line 244
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2013-10-03 04:29:26 PM
 
2013-10-03 04:40:22 PM
Wow from Forbes and I saw an article saying good things abut Obamacare on the WSJ like yesterday.


Guess what Republicans, people are finding out that Obamacare is not this evil bogey man every day now that it effects them.
 
2013-10-03 04:50:19 PM
In time for the Holiday Rush.
Then it goes back to poorville.
 
2013-10-03 04:52:10 PM
The truth is, Obamacare IS a job killer.

/For Republicans in 2014 and 2026.
 
2013-10-03 04:59:36 PM
At least people can have the dignity of knowing they had a full time job before they get death paneled
 
2013-10-03 05:01:17 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 599x435]

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Did something happen to the economy in 2008?
 
2013-10-03 05:06:39 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 599x435]

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So there was already a GIANT jump in part time jobs in what appears to be a full year before the ACA? hmmmmm......
 
2013-10-03 05:06:57 PM
They are so f*cked.
 
2013-10-03 05:08:23 PM
Disney World did something similar. There will be others.

That's the problem with misinformation campaigns. You lose control of the "facts" and you are screwed.
 
2013-10-03 05:08:39 PM
It's almost as if there are lots of talking points out there with no real proof to back them up, and any time one comes under scrutiny it fails...
 
2013-10-03 05:09:19 PM

mediablitz: Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 599x435]

Link

Did something happen to the economy in 2008?


It tanked on the news that Obama had a time machine.
 
2013-10-03 05:09:41 PM

Corvus: Wow from Forbes and I saw an article saying good things abut Obamacare on the WSJ like yesterday.


Guess what Republicans, people are finding out that Obamacare is not this evil bogey man every day now that it effects them.


Didn't some GOP Congressman flat out admit the other day that their biggest concern is that once people are on Obamacare they'll never leave?  He gave up the frigging goose for all the world to see and dammit Republican voters had better remember that come mid-terms.
 
2013-10-03 05:11:26 PM

Gyrfalcon: They are so f*cked.


Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, but it just might be possible that the number of people that they can fool all of the time is shrinking.
 
2013-10-03 05:11:28 PM
Businesses dont want to be in the Health Care Business (Unless they ARE the Healthcare business) they want to be in the business business.

Seriously, The PACA will cut HR's job in half.
 
2013-10-03 05:12:27 PM
What one company does does not make a trend.  While I do not think the ACA greatly increases the part time roles this news meaningless in comparison to the greater trends.


I would like to see one of these hell Walmarts.  The ones that keep getting reported as completely out of stock with on cashier to check out hundreds and a complete inability to find a worker out in the store.  They dont have anything like that in my area.
 
2013-10-03 05:13:56 PM

AntiNerd: Disney World did something similar. There will be others.

That's the problem with misinformation campaigns. You lose control of the "facts" and you are screwed.


Except that these aren't APPROVED facts, they're liberal facts, and therefore aren't, in fact, facts.
 
2013-10-03 05:14:26 PM
"I do, I do like Green Eggs and Ham! I do like them, Sam I am!"
 
2013-10-03 05:14:30 PM

mediablitz: Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 599x435]

Link

Did something happen to the economy in 2008?


We elected a bla.... er, um.. super liberal Democrat.  Yeah!!!

The libbiest lib to ever lib his way up the Potomac.

And the Democrat that will possibly replace him in the White House?  Even Worse!!!! That guy will be like Hitler and Obama combined!!!!!

So remember both sides are bad, so vote Kodos.
 
2013-10-03 05:14:42 PM
damn facts not fitting their narrative.
 
2013-10-03 05:14:51 PM

vudukungfu: In time for the Holiday Rush.
Then it goes back to poorville.


Probably. In January or end of December theyre gonna announce layoffs of the same amount of full timers.
 
2013-10-03 05:15:31 PM

Heraclitus: Businesses dont want to be in the Health Care Business (Unless they ARE the Healthcare business) they want to be in the business business.

Seriously, The PACA will cut HR's job in half.


But then they'll scale back HR and people will lose their jobs!  Thanks Obama!
 
2013-10-03 05:16:01 PM
Effectively reduced part time from 39 hours a week to 29 hours a week here.  So yeah, they kept their jobs, and even caused more employment because they had to fill in those 10 hours a week with other people.  Woo.
 
2013-10-03 05:17:05 PM
And 'go' is exactly what Ms. Hancock did-no doubt to Wal-Mart's competitor, Costco.

This isn't the first article to try to make a Walmart/Costco comparison, and I don't get it.... isn't Costco more of a Sam's Club competitor, as they are both "membership clubs"?
 
2013-10-03 05:17:07 PM
You mean a business might be eager to make part-time employees full time - a move that would increase their productivity, job satisfaction, and customer satisfaction across the board - if the business can give this benefit for little to no cost and have the government manage it for them?

THE HELL YOU SAY???
 
2013-10-03 05:17:49 PM

vernonFL: The truth is, Obamacare IS a job killer.

/For Republicans in 2014 and 2026.


Or 2016 even :)

But yeah, the GOP has gone so far in their apocalyptic rhetoric about Obamacare that now that it's here they are going to face the wrath of all those republicans that suddenly realize that things aren't bad at all, and in fact are much better.

/Who am I kidding- republicans will never admit that Obamacare is working
 
2013-10-03 05:18:57 PM

Saiga410: What one company does does not make a trend.  While I do not think the ACA greatly increases the part time roles this news meaningless in comparison to the greater trends.


I would like to see one of these hell Walmarts.  The ones that keep getting reported as completely out of stock with on cashier to check out hundreds and a complete inability to find a worker out in the store.  They dont have anything like that in my area.


The Wal-Mart about 2 miles away is constantly low on things in the grocery section.  Bare shelves, stuff misplaced, packages open with food missing from them.

The rest of the store is pretty well stocked, but they keep moving the stuff in the electronics section around.

I get most of my groceries from a Winco, but sometimes I pop into Walmart because it's a short walk from work, only about a half mile.
 
2013-10-03 05:19:01 PM

Saiga410: I would like to see one of these hell Walmarts. The ones that keep getting reported as completely out of stock with on cashier to check out hundreds and a complete inability to find a worker out in the store. They dont have anything like that in my area.


The one or two times a year I hit up Walmart for some odd or end, it looks like it's been ravaged by post-apocalyptic brigands. And while I could usually find a worker in the store, asking them if they carry some obscure battery or doohickey is met with a blank stare.
 
2013-10-03 05:21:04 PM
I'm pretty amazed businesses didn't do the math on this long ago.
I guess they just liked bearing the burden of costs of administering and paying for employee health insurance.

Now all they have to do is pump up the cost of their employer-provided plans so that people run for the exchanges and, wah-la, PROFIT!

Plus, employees won't have to keep shiatty jobs just for the health benefits.
 
2013-10-03 05:21:58 PM

Flappyhead: Corvus: Wow from Forbes and I saw an article saying good things abut Obamacare on the WSJ like yesterday.


Guess what Republicans, people are finding out that Obamacare is not this evil bogey man every day now that it effects them.

Didn't some GOP Congressman flat out admit the other day that their biggest concern is that once people are on Obamacare they'll never leave?  He gave up the frigging goose for all the world to see and dammit Republican voters had better remember that come mid-terms.


Yep, this was the GOP's Waterloo and they are Napoleon. It's game over as far as defunding the ACA. People are finding out that they can get better coverage at cheaper prices on the exchanges and that is killing the Republicans efforts to kill the ACA. That and the big money interests have spoken, they can shut down the government, but not too long, and they better raise the debt ceiling or the big money is going Democrat in 2014.
 
2013-10-03 05:22:23 PM
Maybe we will start to see bigger companies start to hire full more, but no offer benefits, since they would have access to the market place.
 
2013-10-03 05:24:42 PM

jayhawk88: You mean a business might be eager to make part-time employees full time - a move that would increase their productivity, job satisfaction, and customer satisfaction across the board - if the business can give this benefit for little to no cost and have the government manage it for them?

THE HELL YOU SAY???


Well considering their MBA geniuses just had their asses handed to them by Economists, yeah. The geniuses figured more part timers could cover the full time load, but just the opposite happened, sales tanked, and customer satisfaction is at an all time low. Exactly what Economists said was going to happen.
 
2013-10-03 05:25:26 PM

meat0918: mediablitz: Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 599x435]

Link

Did something happen to the economy in 2008?

We elected a bla.... er, um.. super liberal Democrat.  Yeah!!!

The libbiest lib to ever lib his way up the Potomac.

And the Democrat that will possibly replace him in the White House?  Even Worse!!!! That guy will be like Hitler and Obama combined!!!!!

So remember both sides are bad, so vote Kodos.


0.tqn.com

They bring beer!

/hot!
 
2013-10-03 05:28:15 PM
Is Wal-Mart one of the companies that is off the hook because the employer mandate got pushed back a year?
 
2013-10-03 05:28:20 PM

Saiga410: What one company does does not make a trend.


How about the country's single largest employer?
 
2013-10-03 05:29:13 PM

AntiNerd: Disney World did something similar. There will be others.

That's the problem with misinformation campaigns. You lose control of the "facts" and you are screwed.


Two nights ago: all my coworkers standing around claiming blue cross insurance will more than double because of obamacare. I laughed at loud.

Last night: amazingly one of them did the research and nope, not at all the case. Total email chain bullshiat.

Today: something new, plus a conspiracy that a phone number spells fark you (it sort of does) and that obama must have put that there.

The lies move too fast for it to even matter if a few get caught.
 
2013-10-03 05:29:27 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Saiga410: I would like to see one of these hell Walmarts. The ones that keep getting reported as completely out of stock with on cashier to check out hundreds and a complete inability to find a worker out in the store. They dont have anything like that in my area.

The one or two times a year I hit up Walmart for some odd or end, it looks like it's been ravaged by post-apocalyptic brigands. And while I could usually find a worker in the store, asking them if they carry some obscure battery or doohickey is met with a blank stare.


Yeah, so?

Wal-Mart doesn't train their employees to know anything. That would cost money. And the employees, justifiably, don't give a shiat about their job.

I love how minimum-wage employees are expected to be cheerful and have "pride in their work". Fark that, and fark the ridiculous Protestant work-ethic bullshiat that created that attitude.

Millionaires get all pissed and defraud their employers (and their customers) when they feel the aren't rich enough. But Wal-Mart workers are supposed to be happy?
 
2013-10-03 05:30:47 PM

Saiga410: What one company does does not make a trend.  While I do not think the ACA greatly increases the part time roles this news meaningless in comparison to the greater trends.


I would like to see one of these hell Walmarts.  The ones that keep getting reported as completely out of stock with on cashier to check out hundreds and a complete inability to find a worker out in the store.  They dont have anything like that in my area.


There is one near pontiac that was like that.

It has been a decade since I went there.
 
2013-10-03 05:31:59 PM

ourbigdumbmouth: Maybe we will start to see bigger companies start to hire full more, but no offer benefits, since they would have access to the market place.


Companies are going to have to offer a better work environment. If employees aren't chained to their employer out of fear of losing their healthcare, the employer doesn't own them any longer.
 
2013-10-03 05:32:27 PM

Dinki: vernonFL: The truth is, Obamacare IS a job killer.

/For Republicans in 2014 and 2026.

Or 2016 even :)

But yeah, the GOP has gone so far in their apocalyptic rhetoric about Obamacare that now that it's here they are going to face the wrath of all those republicans that suddenly realize that things aren't bad at all, and in fact are much better.

/Who am I kidding- republicans will never admit that Obamacare is working


Limbaugh on Tuesday was already calling it an unmitigated disaster.  I mean for his whole show.  Then yesterday some lady called in and said she had to wait for 30 minute and then only saw a physician's assistant for her FOLLOW UP appt. and this too was blamed on Obamacare.

They are apoplectic about this and will never ever ever admit that it's anything other than the worst thing in the  history of ever.  If it cut our deficit to a surplus and helped us pay off all our debt in ten years they would say "do you see how much better we'd be WITHOUT IT!!!???!!!??  IT IS A TRAVSHAMOCKERY!!!"

bunch of loons the lot of them
 
Bf+
2013-10-03 05:33:12 PM
 
2013-10-03 05:33:34 PM
On one hand, it's nice to see a company do that, on the other Wal-Mart

damnit, I'm confused if I should be outraged or not
 
2013-10-03 05:33:40 PM

dletter: And 'go' is exactly what Ms. Hancock did-no doubt to Wal-Mart's competitor, Costco.

This isn't the first article to try to make a Walmart/Costco comparison, and I don't get it.... isn't Costco more of a Sam's Club competitor, as they are both "membership clubs"?


Sam's Club is the warehouse club Walmart (it's named after Sam Walton), so they are direct competitors in that specific field. It's not a perfect comparison, as obviously there's the whole other part of the business that Costco doesn't do, but it's frequently made because they have such different philosophies on both treatment of employees and product quality.
 
2013-10-03 05:34:43 PM

ourbigdumbmouth: Maybe we will start to see bigger companies start to hire full more, but no offer benefits, since they would have access to the market place.


That would be nice and all the penalty for 50+ employees still exists, right?  Of course, if it's only 2500 or something then it actually might be cheaper for them to pay that and let their employees get theirs on the exchanges.

It's just a numbers game, then.
 
2013-10-03 05:36:45 PM
Saiga410:

I would like to see one of these hell Walmarts.  The ones that keep getting reported as completely out of stock with on cashier to check out hundreds and a complete inability to find a worker out in the store.  They dont have anything like that in my area.

They do in mine. In fact, the wal-mart in my area is so bad that I now shop at the next nearest wal-mart which while 60 miles away is also much better run. The problem in my area is the wal-mart came in, killed off all the other local grocery stores, and now in effect has a monoploy. You want fresh fruit? Drive 60 miles SUCKER.
 
2013-10-03 05:36:51 PM

Saiga410: I would like to see one of these hell Walmarts.


"If I haven't seen it, then it can't exist."
 
2013-10-03 05:37:12 PM

Saiga410: What one company does does not make a trend.  While I do not think the ACA greatly increases the part time roles this news meaningless in comparison to the greater trends.


I would like to see one of these hell Walmarts.  The ones that keep getting reported as completely out of stock with on cashier to check out hundreds and a complete inability to find a worker out in the store.  They dont have anything like that in my area.


Come to the beautiful San Fernando Valley. The Van Nuys, Woodland Hills, and Porter Ranch stores are all like that. Porter Ranch isn't consitantly as bad, but it's in a higher income area where they fought to keep it out. Appearances matter more there.
 
2013-10-03 05:38:30 PM

Saiga410: I would like to see one of these hell Walmarts.  The ones that keep getting reported as completely out of stock with on cashier to check out hundreds and a complete inability to find a worker out in the store.  They dont have anything like that in my area.


Come to Humble Texas
 
2013-10-03 05:38:45 PM
free market solutions people.  i am free to not go to that shiathole to save 1.22$ when i can go somewhere that doesnt fark all of their lower tier employees over and actually get this mythical thing called 'customer service'.  looks like they are learning from their mistakes, good on them.
still, fark wal mart.
 
2013-10-03 05:39:22 PM

Saiga410: I would like to see one of these hell Walmarts. The ones that keep getting reported as completely out of stock with on cashier to check out hundreds and a complete inability to find a worker out in the store. They dont have anything like that in my area.


Ever been to Lancaster, CA?
 
2013-10-03 05:43:13 PM
Saiga410

The world is bigger than your immediate surroundings.

Does that blow your mind or what
 
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