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(Pittsburgh Tribune-Review)   Zero tolerance causes school lock down. In other news, crutches are considered weapons   (triblive.com) divider line 72
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2013-10-03 01:39:03 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-03 02:00:27 PM
they are:
www.wwe.com
 
2013-10-03 02:04:54 PM
Not the ones I use when I had a broken leg. If I'd tried to use them as a weapon, they probably would have broken.
 
2013-10-03 02:20:55 PM
My younger brother was suspended from school yesterday for talking with another kid about where they would hide if someone shot up their school. Someone reported that he "wanted to shoot up the school." Because of zero tolerance policies, even though the school administration acknowledged that they knew he was the type of kid who would never, ever do something like that, he still got suspended.

It's so, so stupid.
 
2013-10-03 02:31:10 PM
Apparently, the doctor was able to de-weaponize the crutches with a simple note.
 
2013-10-03 03:00:16 PM
Hehe. Trib.
 
2013-10-03 03:02:31 PM

Kingly Weevil: My younger brother was suspended from school yesterday for talking with another kid about where they would hide if someone shot up their school. Someone reported that he "wanted to shoot up the school." Because of zero tolerance policies, even though the school administration acknowledged that they knew he was the type of kid who would never, ever do something like that, he still got suspended.

It's so, so stupid.


Another case of punishing the hypothetical victim.
 
2013-10-03 03:02:37 PM

Kingly Weevil: My younger brother was suspended from school yesterday for talking with another kid about where they would hide if someone shot up their school. Someone reported that he "wanted to shoot up the school." Because of zero tolerance policies, even though the school administration acknowledged that they knew he was the type of kid who would never, ever do something like that, he still got suspended.

It's so, so stupid.


To think 12 years ago I created an Unreal Tournament map based on the layout of my high school (football/baseball fields included). We even played it on LAN on school computers, and nobody gave a damn.
 
2013-10-03 03:03:01 PM
As it turns out, the man's daughter, who attends Springdale High School, was briefly turned away from school because she was walking on crutches and they can be considered dangerous weapons.
 images.sodahead.com
 
2013-10-03 03:03:28 PM
When I was in high school a fight broke out in the gym. One of the participants grabbed a crutch from a nearby kid who had a broken leg, and proceeded to bash his opponent's face in. I'm pretty sure he was expelled.

/csb
 
2013-10-03 03:03:45 PM
The only thing stopping a bad guy with crutches is a good guy with crutches.

/i feel safer
/thank you Jesus and Obama
 
2013-10-03 03:04:08 PM
hey look at that... punishing a kid for planning ahead.
 
2013-10-03 03:07:30 PM

criscokkat: hey look at that... punishing a kid for planning ahead.




People should only do what they are told to do.
 
2013-10-03 03:09:29 PM
In 5th grade a few years before I switched to the wheelchair full time, I beat the holy hell out of a bully with an aluminum crutch.

/this was pre-helicopter parenting days. We were both suspended but the other guy got in worse trouble than I did so all in all, it was a win.
 
2013-10-03 03:14:13 PM
School officials say a 7-year-old girl wheeled up to the front door in a wheelchair during the crisis. As a wheelchair can also be used as a weapon, she was pushed over backwards by faculty, who then ran away screaming with their hands over their heads.

/not true, but wouldn't be surprising when pop tarts and fingers are considered weapons and cause panic
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-10-03 03:18:25 PM
Nation

of

PUSSIES


/this sucks
 
2013-10-03 03:20:11 PM
A doctor's note shouldn't be needed for ANYTHING unless you have strong suspicions that somebody's lying.
 
2013-10-03 03:23:49 PM
Sue under the ADA. It's the proper way to fight this absurdity.
 
2013-10-03 03:24:15 PM
Welcome to Paranoid America
 
2013-10-03 03:24:25 PM

Walker: School officials say a 7-year-old girl wheeled up to the front door in a wheelchair during the crisis. As a wheelchair can also be used as a weapon, she was pushed over backwards by faculty, who then ran away screaming with their hands over their heads.

/not true, but wouldn't be surprising when pop tarts and fingers are considered weapons and cause panic


One of the monsters was suspended for 10 days [not a typo] because he was playing with a "non-firearm weapon": he had a pencil in one hand and a rubber band in the other. He wasn't putting them together, he wasn't aiming anything at anyone. And my protests were useless.
 
2013-10-03 03:27:19 PM
Reminds me a little of the Hunger Games. Punishing people for no reason other than to remind them that you exert totalitarian control over them.
 
2013-10-03 03:29:41 PM
images.sodahead.com

Jimmy?
 
2013-10-03 03:38:23 PM

The Goddamn Batman: When I was in high school a fight broke out in the gym. One of the participants grabbed a crutch from a nearby kid who had a broken leg, and proceeded to bash his opponent's face in. I'm pretty sure he was expelled.

/csb


That's fine for the kid that brought those dangerous crutches to school, but what happened to the kid who grabbed them away?!
 
2013-10-03 03:38:50 PM
Triblive sounds like a much more entertaining website than it actually is.
 
2013-10-03 03:42:20 PM
To be fair to the administrators, the article is wrong, she actually had an artificial leg.

www.socialbliss.com
 
2013-10-03 03:47:56 PM
Maybe they should drop the pretense and fire the teachers since they're just warehousing kids until they grow up. Save some money. The kids could get all their education off the internet.
 
2013-10-03 03:48:35 PM
What I got from TFA is that the schools went on lock down not because of a little girl with crutches, but because her father said he was going to shoot every one in the school.
 
2013-10-03 03:49:27 PM

BitwiseShift: Maybe they should drop the pretense and fire the teachers since they're just warehousing kids until they grow up. Save some money. The kids could get all their education off the internet.


Free range children?
 
2013-10-03 03:49:49 PM
Terrorists....won....etc.
 
2013-10-03 03:50:55 PM

AugieDoggyDaddy: What I got from TFA is that the schools went on lock down not because of a little girl with crutches, but because her father said he was going to shoot every one in the school.


Well somebody said they overheard this. This is all it takes to get your family harassed by the cops.
 
2013-10-03 03:50:57 PM
I agree that the school should have been on lockdown after someone was overheard saying he was going to "shoot everyone at the school." Considering the rash of mass shootings, it seems like a logical precaution to help prevent violence, and I think we'd all rather poke a little fun at a school for being overly cautious than for taking no action resulting in a bunch of injured and dead students, and I applaud the school for that (in a golf clap kind of way). But to turn a student away because she was on crutches? THAT'S stupid.
 
2013-10-03 03:51:12 PM

Ivo Shandor: [i.imgur.com image 255x296]




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2013-10-03 03:51:47 PM

Genju: Kingly Weevil: My younger brother was suspended from school yesterday for talking with another kid about where they would hide if someone shot up their school. Someone reported that he "wanted to shoot up the school." Because of zero tolerance policies, even though the school administration acknowledged that they knew he was the type of kid who would never, ever do something like that, he still got suspended.

It's so, so stupid.

To think 12 years ago I created an Unreal Tournament map based on the layout of my high school (football/baseball fields included). We even played it on LAN on school computers, and nobody gave a damn.


And to think that in '82 we brought actual weapons (rifles, mainly) to history class for a presentation. In that same class, someone brought in actual mace (not store bought pepper-spray) and was able to demonstrate it (albeit relatively safely).

/not fibbin'
 
2013-10-03 03:57:15 PM

MelGoesOnTour: Genju: Kingly Weevil: My younger brother was suspended from school yesterday for talking with another kid about where they would hide if someone shot up their school. Someone reported that he "wanted to shoot up the school." Because of zero tolerance policies, even though the school administration acknowledged that they knew he was the type of kid who would never, ever do something like that, he still got suspended.

It's so, so stupid.

To think 12 years ago I created an Unreal Tournament map based on the layout of my high school (football/baseball fields included). We even played it on LAN on school computers, and nobody gave a damn.

And to think that in '82 we brought actual weapons (rifles, mainly) to history class for a presentation. In that same class, someone brought in actual mace (not store bought pepper-spray) and was able to demonstrate it (albeit relatively safely).

/not fibbin'


That was before video games like GTA and Wii Bowling turned every kid into a psychopathic mass murderer.
 
2013-10-03 04:00:47 PM

spiral_fishcake: I agree that the school should have been on lockdown after someone was overheard saying he was going to "shoot everyone at the school." Considering the rash of mass shootings, it seems like a logical precaution to help prevent violence, and I think we'd all rather poke a little fun at a school for being overly cautious than for taking no action resulting in a bunch of injured and dead students, and I applaud the school for that (in a golf clap kind of way). But to turn a student away because she was on crutches? THAT'S stupid.


This.

And it's possible that the guy actually said something more along the lines of "It's not like she's going to shoot everyone in the school, she's on CRUTCHES" and the overhearer just heard "going to shoot everyone in the school".
 
2013-10-03 04:02:16 PM
So, that article sucked.  Did somebody ACTUALLY say they wanted to shoot up the school because their daughter was turned away for crutches?   Or was there no phone call at all?  Too late in the day to be confused.
 
2013-10-03 04:03:28 PM
We're closer and closer to this being a reality every day:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-03 04:05:26 PM

AugieDoggyDaddy: What I got from TFA is that the schools went on lock down not because of a little girl with crutches, but because her father said he was going to shoot every one in the school.


Agreed if that's what was said. Or did Busybody Bettie only tune into the end of a sentence and miss the context? For all we know he was saying, "Yeah, crutches are a weapon. Like she's going to shoot everybody at the school!" Not saying it went down like that, just saying we don't know enough. If dad said that, he's a dipshiat. The school's crutch nonesense was stupid from the get-go.
 
2013-10-03 04:10:37 PM
Government schools, government employees, home schooling bad
 
2013-10-03 04:12:53 PM

GloomCookie613: AugieDoggyDaddy: What I got from TFA is that the schools went on lock down not because of a little girl with crutches, but because her father said he was going to shoot every one in the school.

Agreed if that's what was said. Or did Busybody Bettie only tune into the end of a sentence and miss the context? For all we know he was saying, "Yeah, crutches are a weapon. Like she's going to shoot everybody at the school!" Not saying it went down like that, just saying we don't know enough. If dad said that, he's a dipshiat. The school's crutch nonesense was stupid from the get-go.


Why would the Dad be a dipshiat for saying that? Sounds like a pretty reasonable thing to say.
 
2013-10-03 04:20:27 PM
Justice for Uncle Hank!
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2013-10-03 04:26:33 PM
My boss's son was supspended from middle school earlier this week because he and another student put the pantyhose of his deceased grandmother over their heads and went into the office and pretended their hands were guns. Bonus: No children were traumatized; however, the secretary was frightened.
 
2013-10-03 04:31:09 PM
crutches are considered weapons

Long John Silver nods approvingly.
 
2013-10-03 04:49:16 PM
Next up, suspending blind students who use canes.
 
2013-10-03 04:54:28 PM
I was on crutches for a good portion of my high school career. I also got out of class early so that I could make it to the next class without having to fight through a wave of people in the hallways. I can only imagine how that would work today.

/horrified by what this country is becoming
 
2013-10-03 04:56:46 PM
It does not seem unreasonable that if a kid needs crutches at school that they also have a doctor's note.
 
2013-10-03 04:57:02 PM

StoPPeRmobile: The only thing stopping a bad guy with crutches is a good guy with crutches.

/i feel safer
/thank you Jesus and Obama


Not one mass crutches attack has been stopped by a civilian using crutches!!
 
2013-10-03 05:05:38 PM

MelGoesOnTour: Genju: Kingly Weevil: My younger brother was suspended from school yesterday for talking with another kid about where they would hide if someone shot up their school. Someone reported that he "wanted to shoot up the school." Because of zero tolerance policies, even though the school administration acknowledged that they knew he was the type of kid who would never, ever do something like that, he still got suspended.

It's so, so stupid.

To think 12 years ago I created an Unreal Tournament map based on the layout of my high school (football/baseball fields included). We even played it on LAN on school computers, and nobody gave a damn.

And to think that in '82 we brought actual weapons (rifles, mainly) to history class for a presentation. In that same class, someone brought in actual mace (not store bought pepper-spray) and was able to demonstrate it (albeit relatively safely).

/not fibbin'


Back in the day you could bring your gun to school during hunting season so you could go hunting right after school.  Schools even had "shooting teams"


It turns out the some schools still have "shooting teams" that are not the local gang members:



www.kinetonhighschool.org.uk

www.mnclaytarget.com



trapshooting team joins Delano High School family
www.mnclaytarget.com

Kenyon-Wanamingo Trap Shooting Team aims for high marks
 
2013-10-03 05:13:11 PM
There must have been a "turning point" that had to happen at which time things changed from being "reasonable" to being "unreasonable" in terms of when these zero-tolerance policies came to be.  I mean, for example, for decades it'd be fine for kids to play cops and robbers and then all of a sudden the game became verboten?!  I realize there has been all this gun violence, but I do wonder where it came from all of a sudden. I mean, it's not like guns were invented in teh last 10 years or so.
 
2013-10-03 05:20:30 PM
www.foxnews.com

Was she wearing a mask?
 
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