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(New York Daily News)   A-Rod's latest defense: I was too stupid NOT to be tricked into taking steroids   (nydailynews.com) divider line 28
    More: Unlikely, Alex Rodriguez, Anthony Bosch, Brian McNamee, steroids, Vitamin B12, Florida Department of Health, Bud Selig, baseball commissioner  
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2013-10-03 11:25:13 AM  
A-Rod's "people" are the scum of the earth aren't they?  Especially with that dog-and-pony show they've set up outside of the offices where they're arbitrating this.
 
2013-10-03 11:29:49 AM  
That's the most convincing excuse I've heard yet.
 
2013-10-03 11:44:03 AM  
He sure jumped through a lot of unnecessary hoops to acquire what he believed to be perfectly legal supplements.
 
2013-10-03 11:45:10 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: He sure jumped through a lot of unnecessary hoops to acquire what he believed to be perfectly legal supplements.


Yup.  These are totally, 100% on the up-and-up.  But don't tell anybody!
 
2013-10-03 11:54:39 AM  
I thought the bigger issue was his trying to pay people off to keep the whole thing quiet. I mean, there's no doubt he took steroids right ? He admitted that already.

So why would he be trying to defend himself by denying he was taking steroids knowingly?

Also, for farks sake who cares? They should have just given him the same suspension as the other guys caught up in this and been done with it. I doubt ARod even appeals a 50 or 65 game suspension, but 200 games? You pretty much leave him no choice but to appeal. I also wonder if the Yankees weren't so desperate to get out of his contract if this whole thing would have turned into such a cluster fark.

/I'm guessing his suspension is reduced to 100 games, more than Braun but not so ridiculous
 
2013-10-03 11:54:56 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Yanks_RSJ: He sure jumped through a lot of unnecessary hoops to acquire what he believed to be perfectly legal supplements.

Yup.  These are totally, 100% on the up-and-up.  But don't tell anybody!


Yeah, let's just say he's full of shiat and be done with it.  He's getting suspended 211 games, he should just take his medicine and be done with it.
 
2013-10-03 11:56:21 AM  

js34603: I thought the bigger issue was his trying to pay people off to keep the whole thing quiet. I mean, there's no doubt he took steroids right ? He admitted that already.

So why would he be trying to defend himself by denying he was taking steroids knowingly?

Also, for farks sake who cares? They should have just given him the same suspension as the other guys caught up in this and been done with it. I doubt ARod even appeals a 50 or 65 game suspension, but 200 games? You pretty much leave him no choice but to appeal. I also wonder if the Yankees weren't so desperate to get out of his contract if this whole thing would have turned into such a cluster fark.

/I'm guessing his suspension is reduced to 100 games, more than Braun but not so ridiculous

awjeeznotthisshiatagain.jpg


It's a LOT more than just a Braun type act; I thought everyone knows that.
 
2013-10-03 12:00:50 PM  

Rwa2play: js34603: I thought the bigger issue was his trying to pay people off to keep the whole thing quiet. I mean, there's no doubt he took steroids right ? He admitted that already.

So why would he be trying to defend himself by denying he was taking steroids knowingly?

Also, for farks sake who cares? They should have just given him the same suspension as the other guys caught up in this and been done with it. I doubt ARod even appeals a 50 or 65 game suspension, but 200 games? You pretty much leave him no choice but to appeal. I also wonder if the Yankees weren't so desperate to get out of his contract if this whole thing would have turned into such a cluster fark.

/I'm guessing his suspension is reduced to 100 games, more than Braun but not so ridiculous

awjeeznotthisshiatagain.jpg

It's a LOT more than just a Braun type act; I thought everyone knows that.


Irrelevant. You can't use the law for one offense to punish another offense.

So you embezzled money? According to the murder law, you get death penalty. What?
 
2013-10-03 12:02:52 PM  
js34603: I thought the bigger issue was his trying to pay people off to keep the whole thing quiet. I mean, there's no doubt he took steroids right ? He admitted that already.

So why would he be trying to defend himself by denying he was taking steroids knowingly?


He admitted to using steroids in the early 2000s. This is about supposed steroid use in the past few years.
 
2013-10-03 12:12:04 PM  

rocky_howard: Rwa2play: js34603: I thought the bigger issue was his trying to pay people off to keep the whole thing quiet. I mean, there's no doubt he took steroids right ? He admitted that already.

So why would he be trying to defend himself by denying he was taking steroids knowingly?

Also, for farks sake who cares? They should have just given him the same suspension as the other guys caught up in this and been done with it. I doubt ARod even appeals a 50 or 65 game suspension, but 200 games? You pretty much leave him no choice but to appeal. I also wonder if the Yankees weren't so desperate to get out of his contract if this whole thing would have turned into such a cluster fark.

/I'm guessing his suspension is reduced to 100 games, more than Braun but not so ridiculous

awjeeznotthisshiatagain.jpg

It's a LOT more than just a Braun type act; I thought everyone knows that.

Irrelevant. You can't use the law for one offense to punish another offense.

So you embezzled money? According to the murder law, you get death penalty. What?


So: you conspired to commit murder, murder in the first, guilty on all counts...time served.  What?
 
2013-10-03 12:16:09 PM  
Who's the guy who wrote all of those signs and decided it would be a good idea to trivialize the civil rights movement?
 
2013-10-03 12:54:01 PM  

js34603: Also, for farks sake who cares? They should have just given him the same suspension as the other guys caught up in this and been done with it.


Because, as you wrote, he tried to interfere with the investigation.
 
2013-10-03 02:04:45 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: js34603: Also, for farks sake who cares? They should have just given him the same suspension as the other guys caught up in this and been done with it.

Because, as you wrote, he tried to interfere with the investigation.


So did Melky Cabrera.  I forget, how many extra games did they give him for creating a website for fictitious supplements again?

\Selective prosecution is still selective prosecution, regardless of how big an a-hole the guy is.
 
2013-10-03 02:24:07 PM  

scandalrag: So did Melky Cabrera.


Did they have proof?  Like, boxes and boxes of it?

/honestly don't remember
 
2013-10-03 02:28:33 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: js34603: Also, for farks sake who cares? They should have just given him the same suspension as the other guys caught up in this and been done with it.

Because, as you wrote, he tried to interfere with the investigation.


There's no proof of this besides the innuendo of the media carrying water for MLB and the Yankees.

Arod deserves 50 games like everyone else got. That's it.
 
2013-10-03 02:30:01 PM  

scandalrag: \Selective prosecution is still selective prosecution, regardless of how big an a-hole the guy is.


Cabrera wasn't part of this group. I don't think it is selective enforcement to decide enough is enough and we want to end this going forward.
 
2013-10-03 02:35:30 PM  

ElwoodCuse: There's no proof of this besides the innuendo of the media carrying water for MLB and the Yankees.


We don't know what there is proof of.  We will once the appeals process has played out.
 
2013-10-03 02:37:30 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: ElwoodCuse: There's no proof of this besides the innuendo of the media carrying water for MLB and the Yankees.

We don't know what there is proof of.  We will once the appeals process has played out.


They've made it sound like they have mountains of proof of misconduct.  I doubt they were bluffing.
 
2013-10-03 03:18:57 PM  

rocky_howard: Rwa2play: js34603: I thought the bigger issue was his trying to pay people off to keep the whole thing quiet. I mean, there's no doubt he took steroids right ? He admitted that already.

So why would he be trying to defend himself by denying he was taking steroids knowingly?

Also, for farks sake who cares? They should have just given him the same suspension as the other guys caught up in this and been done with it. I doubt ARod even appeals a 50 or 65 game suspension, but 200 games? You pretty much leave him no choice but to appeal. I also wonder if the Yankees weren't so desperate to get out of his contract if this whole thing would have turned into such a cluster fark.

/I'm guessing his suspension is reduced to 100 games, more than Braun but not so ridiculous

awjeeznotthisshiatagain.jpg

It's a LOT more than just a Braun type act; I thought everyone knows that.

Irrelevant. You can't use the law for one offense to punish another offense.

So you embezzled money? According to the murder law, you get death penalty. What?


Criminal law intentionally allows for variable punishments for the same crime depending on the specific circumstances. This isn't a guy caught stealing getting punished for murder instead of theft. This a a murderer getting the death penalty instead of 25 years.

Braun also was cooperating with MLB, a common reason for reduced sentences in criminal proceedings. We also don't know what was offered to Rodriguez to accept the suspension or threatened for the others if they appealed (effectively a plea bargain in criminal law). Then you also have the question of his actions, interfering with a police investigation can certainly get you more punishment in a criminal case.

Yes there are certainly questions you can ask as to the validity of the suspension length, but appealing to criminal law isn't the best idea as it strongly supports different sentences based on specific circumstances.
 
2013-10-03 03:23:02 PM  

idesofmarch: Yanks_RSJ: ElwoodCuse: There's no proof of this besides the innuendo of the media carrying water for MLB and the Yankees.

We don't know what there is proof of.  We will once the appeals process has played out.

They've made it sound like they have mountains of proof of misconduct.  I doubt they were bluffing.


I would bet they had something pretty solid before doing this. The fallout if they don't will be crazy.

If he gets the suspension it is most likely the end of his career. So even if he doesn't expect to get off, his appeal allowed him to push as far as possible up the career HR list.
 
2013-10-03 03:35:07 PM  

dywed88: idesofmarch: Yanks_RSJ: ElwoodCuse: There's no proof of this besides the innuendo of the media carrying water for MLB and the Yankees.

We don't know what there is proof of.  We will once the appeals process has played out.

They've made it sound like they have mountains of proof of misconduct.  I doubt they were bluffing.

I would bet they had something pretty solid before doing this. The fallout if they don't will be crazy.

If he gets the suspension it is most likely the end of his career. So even if he doesn't expect to get off, his appeal allowed him to push as far as possible up the career HR list.


Indeed.

dywed88: If he gets the suspension it is most likely the end of his career. So even if he doesn't expect to get off, his appeal allowed him to push as far as possible up the career HR list.


Ha!  That's what you'd think, but I'd be amazed if he doesn't try to stay in shape so he can make good on the last couple years on his contract.  After all, they're worth tens millions on their own, and I think he's within a handful of home runs to score extra milestone pay.  I betcha he goes for it.
 
2013-10-03 03:38:18 PM  

idesofmarch: dywed88: If he gets the suspension it is most likely the end of his career. So even if he doesn't expect to get off, his appeal allowed him to push as far as possible up the career HR list.

Ha!  That's what you'd think, but I'd be amazed if he doesn't try to stay in shape so he can make good on the last couple years on his contract.  After all, they're worth tens millions on their own, and I think he's within a handful of home runs to score extra milestone pay.  I betcha he goes for it.


That's if the juice hasn't already started to break his body down first.  If his hip problems are due to PEDs, that's not getting any better unless he retires.
 
2013-10-03 03:39:54 PM  

dywed88: If he gets the suspension it is most likely the end of his career. So even if he doesn't expect to get off, his appeal allowed him to push as far as possible up the career HR list.


Funny, since he hit a grand slam last week which allowed him to broke that tied record and become the new Grand Slams King.
 
2013-10-03 03:59:29 PM  

Rwa2play: idesofmarch: dywed88: If he gets the suspension it is most likely the end of his career. So even if he doesn't expect to get off, his appeal allowed him to push as far as possible up the career HR list.

Ha!  That's what you'd think, but I'd be amazed if he doesn't try to stay in shape so he can make good on the last couple years on his contract.  After all, they're worth tens millions on their own, and I think he's within a handful of home runs to score extra milestone pay.  I betcha he goes for it.

That's if the juice hasn't already started to break his body down first.  If his hip problems are due to PEDs, that's not getting any better unless he retires.


s.mlkshk.com
 
2013-10-03 04:48:32 PM  

dywed88: rocky_howard: Rwa2play: js34603: I thought the bigger issue was his trying to pay people off to keep the whole thing quiet. I mean, there's no doubt he took steroids right ? He admitted that already.

So why would he be trying to defend himself by denying he was taking steroids knowingly?

Also, for farks sake who cares? They should have just given him the same suspension as the other guys caught up in this and been done with it. I doubt ARod even appeals a 50 or 65 game suspension, but 200 games? You pretty much leave him no choice but to appeal. I also wonder if the Yankees weren't so desperate to get out of his contract if this whole thing would have turned into such a cluster fark.

/I'm guessing his suspension is reduced to 100 games, more than Braun but not so ridiculous

awjeeznotthisshiatagain.jpg

It's a LOT more than just a Braun type act; I thought everyone knows that.

Irrelevant. You can't use the law for one offense to punish another offense.

So you embezzled money? According to the murder law, you get death penalty. What?

Criminal law intentionally allows for variable punishments for the same crime depending on the specific circumstances. This isn't a guy caught stealing getting punished for murder instead of theft. This a a murderer getting the death penalty instead of 25 years.

Braun also was cooperating with MLB, a common reason for reduced sentences in criminal proceedings. We also don't know what was offered to Rodriguez to accept the suspension or threatened for the others if they appealed (effectively a plea bargain in criminal law). Then you also have the question of his actions, interfering with a police investigation can certainly get you more punishment in a criminal case.

Yes there are certainly questions you can ask as to the validity of the suspension length, but appealing to criminal law isn't the best idea as it strongly supports different sentences based on specific circumstances.


That's great but this isn't criminal law, it's employment law.  The employment contract has specific suspensions for PED use and/ or possession. Again, it's kind of hard to get around the whole let Melky Cabrera off for the same thing precedent.  Employment law is very big on uniform enforcement of the rules.

idesofmarch: scandalrag: So did Melky Cabrera.

Did they have proof?  Like, boxes and boxes of it?

/honestly don't remember


They only had the domain registered to his agent and the IP address of his agent uploading the HTML to the website.  So not boxes and boxes but much less open to interpretation.
 
2013-10-03 06:56:30 PM  

ElwoodCuse: DrewCurtisJr: js34603: Also, for farks sake who cares? They should have just given him the same suspension as the other guys caught up in this and been done with it.

Because, as you wrote, he tried to interfere with the investigation.

There's no proof of this besides the innuendo of the media carrying water for MLB and the Yankees.

Arod deserves 50 games like everyone else got. That's it.


If they don't have proof, then you're right. I have to think that MLB has something big though, or they wouldn't be going through with it this way.
 
2013-10-03 07:22:04 PM  

scandalrag: dywed88: rocky_howard: Rwa2play: js34603: I thought the bigger issue was his trying to pay people off to keep the whole thing quiet. I mean, there's no doubt he took steroids right ? He admitted that already.

So why would he be trying to defend himself by denying he was taking steroids knowingly?

Also, for farks sake who cares? They should have just given him the same suspension as the other guys caught up in this and been done with it. I doubt ARod even appeals a 50 or 65 game suspension, but 200 games? You pretty much leave him no choice but to appeal. I also wonder if the Yankees weren't so desperate to get out of his contract if this whole thing would have turned into such a cluster fark.

/I'm guessing his suspension is reduced to 100 games, more than Braun but not so ridiculous

awjeeznotthisshiatagain.jpg

It's a LOT more than just a Braun type act; I thought everyone knows that.

Irrelevant. You can't use the law for one offense to punish another offense.

So you embezzled money? According to the murder law, you get death penalty. What?

Criminal law intentionally allows for variable punishments for the same crime depending on the specific circumstances. This isn't a guy caught stealing getting punished for murder instead of theft. This a a murderer getting the death penalty instead of 25 years.

Braun also was cooperating with MLB, a common reason for reduced sentences in criminal proceedings. We also don't know what was offered to Rodriguez to accept the suspension or threatened for the others if they appealed (effectively a plea bargain in criminal law). Then you also have the question of his actions, interfering with a police investigation can certainly get you more punishment in a criminal case.

Yes there are certainly questions you can ask as to the validity of the suspension length, but appealing to criminal law isn't the best idea as it strongly supports different sentences based on specific circumstances.

That's great but this isn't criminal law, it's employment law.  The employment contract has specific suspensions for PED use and/ or possession. Again, it's kind of hard to get around the whole let Melky Cabrera off for the same thing precedent.  Employment law is very big on uniform enforcement of the rules.

idesofmarch: scandalrag: So did Melky Cabrera.

Did they have proof?  Like, boxes and boxes of it?

/honestly don't remember

They only had the domain registered to his agent and the IP address of his agent uploading the HTML to the website.  So not boxes and boxes but much less open to interpretation.


Someone else brought up references to criminal law claiming it as an argument against the uneven penalties.

As for the employment contract, there is plenty of leeway in the CBA for flexible penalties determined by MLB.
 
2013-10-03 09:50:48 PM  
The suspension amount is BS. Hell, the whole situation is stupid. People now think these are the only guys juicing, even though they failed as many tests as the guys who are "clean". Stupidest thing is there are dozens, if not hundreds, of similar clinics around the US that athletes still use. These guys only got caught because of a pissed off former employee.
 
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