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2013-10-03 10:05:36 AM
Feinstein is today's GOP. What we formally knew as the GOP has become today's "assfarking incorporated party"
 
2013-10-03 10:11:12 AM
Not to sure we should worry about that or a budget. Seems many pols are headed home for the weekend...
 
2013-10-03 10:14:11 AM
Feinstein is a real piece of work. I can't believe she gets continually re-elected. Talk about someone who should be primaried...
 
2013-10-03 10:15:30 AM
Funny to hear critique coming from Russia Today, makes me wonder what Putin's thinking right now.  "American Congress won't pass his budget? We never have this problem in Russia.  Why doesn't Obama just have their families secretly killed?"
 
2013-10-03 10:20:14 AM
It's actually very simple this time.

The Senate passed a budget in March.

The House explicitly refused to even consider it, choosing instead to drag their feet so they could extort their demands out of the Senate by threatening to shutdown the government and default on US debt.

They even gave it a name, "Legislative Strike"
 
2013-10-03 10:32:16 AM
This article is a good way for me to confirm hating both parties (one more often than the other). Stupid old people trying to control all of our technology.
 
2013-10-03 10:35:50 AM

meat0918: It's actually very simple this time.

The Senate passed a budget in March.

The House explicitly refused to even consider it, choosing instead to drag their feet so they could extort their demands out of the Senate by threatening to shutdown the government and default on US debt.

They even gave it a name, "Legislative Strike"


I thought it was illegal to have public workers strike? I mean, they're willing to throw teachers in jail for trying to do so.

Why can't we throw Congressmen in jail?
 
2013-10-03 10:44:29 AM
It cant get passed because one man is worried he will lose his job as speaker if he puts forth a clean bill that already has enough votes on both sides. One man worried he will lose his 2nd job is willing to lay off millions to keep it.
 
2013-10-03 10:45:55 AM

meat0918: The Senate passed a budget in March.

The House explicitly refused to even consider it, choosing instead to drag their feet so they could extort their demands out of the Senate by threatening to shutdown the government and default on US debt.


Look, if you had the government run smoothly, then you'd run out of things to blame Obama for.  It was either this or two more years of Benghazi hearings.
 
2013-10-03 10:52:49 AM

meat0918: It's actually very simple this time.

The Senate passed a budget in March.

The House explicitly refused to even consider it, choosing instead to drag their feet so they could extort their demands out of the Senate by threatening to shutdown the government and default on US debt.

They even gave it a name, "Legislative Strike"


Obama sent his Budget Propsal 2 MONTHs late.   He even irked the Democrats who were at least trying.

The Senate had already passed theirs.    The House had already passed thiers.

Obama is not doing his job.   His proposal is to be presented first.   So that the House and Senate do not propose budgets that are DOA.   Why send up a resolution that is going to get vetoed???

By design,  Obama chose not to lead.    Not it is coming back to haunt him.
 
2013-10-03 10:55:16 AM
"reasonable articulable suspicion"

Oh Jesus Tapdancing Christ on a farking cracker.

This is what certain dipshiat legislators actually believe constitutes due process.  Apparently the average four-year-old has a better grasp of the fourth farking amendment than half of these asswipes.

// When I said I wished that both parties were somewhat viable and not dominated by crazy people, that didn't mean I wanted you to reinforce the "somewhat" part for the Democrats by giving Bachmann a run for her money on anti-American stupidity, Feinstein.
 
2013-10-03 11:01:00 AM

netcentric: meat0918: It's actually very simple this time.

The Senate passed a budget in March.

The House explicitly refused to even consider it, choosing instead to drag their feet so they could extort their demands out of the Senate by threatening to shutdown the government and default on US debt.

They even gave it a name, "Legislative Strike"

Obama sent his Budget Propsal 2 MONTHs late.   He even irked the Democrats who were at least trying.

The Senate had already passed theirs.    The House had already passed thiers.

Obama is not doing his job.   His proposal is to be presented first.   So that the House and Senate do not propose budgets that are DOA.   Why send up a resolution that is going to get vetoed???

By design,  Obama chose not to lead.    Not it is coming back to haunt him.


You're adopted.
 
2013-10-03 11:01:12 AM

Jim_Callahan: "reasonable articulable suspicion"

Oh Jesus Tapdancing Christ on a farking cracker.

This is what certain dipshiat legislators actually believe constitutes due process.  Apparently the average four-year-old has a better grasp of the fourth farking amendment than half of these asswipes.

// When I said I wished that both parties were somewhat viable and not dominated by crazy people, that didn't mean I wanted you to reinforce the "somewhat" part for the Democrats by giving Bachmann a run for her money on anti-American stupidity, Feinstein.


Actually, that's a standard articulated by the Supreme Court a half century ago, but don't let that stop your BSAB-fest.
 
2013-10-03 11:11:50 AM

meat0918: It's actually very simple this time.

The Senate passed a budget in March.

The House explicitly refused to even consider it, choosing instead to drag their feet so they could extort their demands out of the Senate by threatening to shutdown the government and default on US debt.

They even gave it a name, "Legislative Strike"


But don't worry, people will still try to continue the false narrative that BSAB...
 
2013-10-03 11:13:05 AM

netcentric: Obama sent his Budget Propsal 2 MONTHs late


You do know that the president's budget proposal is largely symbolic. His job is merely to sign or veto what Congress sends him. And Congress has sent him nothing. For over six months, the Senate has been asking the House to negotiate. The House refused. Instead, they shut down the government and are trying to call that negotiation. Spin as hard as you like. This is a House Republican issue, They are at fault. And the public need to make sure they pay.

In the mean time, it would be helpful if the RNC offered to fund WIC instead of crying about people not being able to visit monuments. But I guess they are unable to show the slightest sign of human decency at this point.
 
2013-10-03 11:20:47 AM

BMulligan: Jim_Callahan: "reasonable articulable suspicion"

Oh Jesus Tapdancing Christ on a farking cracker.

This is what certain dipshiat legislators actually believe constitutes due process.  Apparently the average four-year-old has a better grasp of the fourth farking amendment than half of these asswipes.

// When I said I wished that both parties were somewhat viable and not dominated by crazy people, that didn't mean I wanted you to reinforce the "somewhat" part for the Democrats by giving Bachmann a run for her money on anti-American stupidity, Feinstein.

Actually, that's a standard articulated by the Supreme Court a half century ago, but don't let that stop your BSAB-fest.


AREA MAN PASSIONATE DEFENDER OF WHAT HE BELIEVES CONSTITUTION TO BE
 
2013-10-03 11:28:46 AM

DeaH: netcentric: Obama sent his Budget Propsal 2 MONTHs late

You do know that the president's budget proposal is largely symbolic. His job is merely to sign or veto what Congress sends him. And Congress has sent him nothing. For over six months, the Senate has been asking the House to negotiate. The House refused. Instead, they shut down the government and are trying to call that negotiation. Spin as hard as you like. This is a House Republican issue, They are at fault. And the public need to make sure they pay.

In the mean time, it would be helpful if the RNC offered to fund WIC instead of crying about people not being able to visit monuments. But I guess they are unable to show the slightest sign of human decency at this point.


I need to amend this - the president does not have to sign. He may also veto, and his veto and be overridden by a 2/3 vote in both chambers.

So, no, the problem is still the House.
 
2013-10-03 11:30:00 AM
It really is gerrymandering that has put us in this situation...when extremists get more power out of being extreme, you end up with an unusable system.  I would love to write the person who would be my congressman a strongly worded letter, but unfortunately, I am in a bubble of about 20 houses that are gerrymandered out of his district (apparently, my single neighborhood trends too diverse to be included with all the houses around us).

At the very least, they should limit gerrymandering to zipcodes...splitting zipcodes just to include different individual people to one district or another is farking retarded and blatantly political.
 
2013-10-03 11:30:15 AM

DeaH: netcentric: Obama sent his Budget Propsal 2 MONTHs late

You do know that the president's budget proposal is largely symbolic. His job is merely to sign or veto what Congress sends him. And Congress has sent him nothing. For over six months, the Senate has been asking the House to negotiate. The House refused. Instead, they shut down the government and are trying to call that negotiation. Spin as hard as you like. This is a House Republican issue, They are at fault. And the public need to make sure they pay.

In the mean time, it would be helpful if the RNC offered to fund WIC instead of crying about people not being able to visit monuments. But I guess they are unable to show the slightest sign of human decency at this point.


Uhhhhmmm...  no

The shutdown is because the federal government doesn't have a budget for fiscal 2014.    Oct 1st started the Fiscal Year.

"The reason it doesn't have a budget is because the Republican-led House passed a budget calling for $3.5 trillion in spending, the Democratically controlled Senate passed a budget calling for $3.7 trillion in spending, and President Obama issued a proposal calling for $3.77 trillion in spending. This happened back in the spring. The House and the Senate passed their budget plans in late March. The president's proposal, the last to be issued came out on April 10th.     Two months too late.... "

In the end,  these 8 years are the OBAMA years.   Not the Pelosi years, the Reid dynasty or Boehner years...    it is up to him to hold peoples feet to the fire.

Now he is going to have to offer something, because he didn't make sure to get a spending plan in place when there was more time.     He was not doing his job.    He still isn't.

Obama deserves credit for this slimdown....

http://reason.com/archives/2013/10/01/let-us-be-clear-obama-deserves -c hief-res
 
2013-10-03 11:35:47 AM

netcentric: DeaH: netcentric: Obama sent his Budget Propsal 2 MONTHs late

You do know that the president's budget proposal is largely symbolic. His job is merely to sign or veto what Congress sends him. And Congress has sent him nothing. For over six months, the Senate has been asking the House to negotiate. The House refused. Instead, they shut down the government and are trying to call that negotiation. Spin as hard as you like. This is a House Republican issue, They are at fault. And the public need to make sure they pay.

In the mean time, it would be helpful if the RNC offered to fund WIC instead of crying about people not being able to visit monuments. But I guess they are unable to show the slightest sign of human decency at this point.

Uhhhhmmm...  no

The shutdown is because the federal government doesn't have a budget for fiscal 2014.    Oct 1st started the Fiscal Year.

"The reason it doesn't have a budget is because the Republican-led House passed a budget calling for $3.5 trillion in spending, the Democratically controlled Senate passed a budget calling for $3.7 trillion in spending, and President Obama issued a proposal calling for $3.77 trillion in spending. This happened back in the spring. The House and the Senate passed their budget plans in late March. The president's proposal, the last to be issued came out on April 10th.     Two months too late.... "

In the end,  these 8 years are the OBAMA years.   Not the Pelosi years, the Reid dynasty or Boehner years...    it is up to him to hold peoples feet to the fire.

Now he is going to have to offer something, because he didn't make sure to get a spending plan in place when there was more time.     He was not doing his job.    He still isn't.

Obama deserves credit for this slimdown....

http://reason.com/archives/2013/10/01/let-us-be-clear-obama-deserves -c hief-res



Please explain how the GOP controlled House refusing a conference committee for 6 months to negotiate  the differences in the House and Senate budgets is Obama's fault. Obama is not the Speaker of the House. He can not bring bills up for vote in the House.

To say this is anyone's fault but Boehner's is a lie.
 
2013-10-03 11:39:07 AM
The answer is that the budgeting process has completely broken down in recent years, and the two men most responsible for that breakdown are President Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. For three consecutive years - 2010, 2011, and 2012 - the Democrat-controlled Senate did not pass a budget bill because Reid knew that it would be a political liability to do so.

Passing a budget that detailed the Democrats' plans for spending and revenue as official policy would have exposed the "something for nothing" swindle that Reid and his colleagues are perpetrating on the American people. Republican challengers campaigning against Democrat senators could have cited their votes for the budget bill, saying that the incumbent voted for this, that, or the other unpopular component of the measure. Reid and the Democrats knew this. They knew very well that the federal deficit was spiraling out of control, that there was not enough tax revenue to pay the mushrooming cost of entitlement programs (Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment, et cetera), and certainly there wasn't enough revenue to pay for all the boondoggles and giveaways the Democrats voted for in the name of "stimulus."

Adding to this, there was not enough revenue to pay the cost of Obamacare, which Democrats rammed through Congress in March 2010 on a party-line vote. Passing an actual budget would have made clear the unsustainable fiscal nightmare into which Democrat policies have plunged the nation during the Obama Age, and so Harry Reid simply didn't pass a budget for three years.


So here we are.
 
2013-10-03 11:44:40 AM

max_pooper: To say this is anyone's fault but Boehner's is a lie.


In fairness, though, you are responding to a post written by a notorious liar.
 
2013-10-03 11:55:56 AM
Feinstein is a real piece of work. I would be hard pressed to name a bigger authoritarian in the GOP.

i.imgur.com


It's all for your own good, of course. Because Feinstein is smarter than you and she knows what's good for you, whereas you can't be trusted.
 
2013-10-03 11:59:06 AM

Elegy: I would be hard pressed to name a bigger authoritarian in the GOP.


Really? Then you're not trying very hard. I'm not about to defend Princess Di - I've loathed that woman longer than a lot of Farkers have been alive - but your statement is more than a little hyperbolic.
 
2013-10-03 12:24:04 PM
I don't know why the NSA is tracking phones, just read that site, all the people you need to keep an eye on are right there in the comments.

That's A LOT of crazy in one place.
 
2013-10-03 12:35:45 PM

BMulligan: Elegy: I would be hard pressed to name a bigger authoritarian in the GOP.

Really? Then you're not trying very hard. I'm not about to defend Princess Di - I've loathed that woman longer than a lot of Farkers have been alive - but your statement is more than a little hyperbolic.


Feinstein has voted to expand federal wiretapping powers and reduce the checks and balances in FISA. She was the cosponsor for one of the PATRIOT act extensions. She's a certified "if I can I'm going to take your guns" nut. She supports the death penalty. She supported free speech restrictions like the flag desecration amendment and COICA. She has taken an extremely hard stance on whistleblowers and leakers. She's an ardent supporter of the MPAA and RIAA stance on copyright infringement and copyright law.

For serious, Feinstein is one of the most authoritarian senators in the senate today, and her preference is to wield the power of the state like a club, and clobber you into submission.
 
2013-10-03 12:36:42 PM

Zeb Hesselgresser: The answer is that the budgeting process has completely broken down in recent years, and the two men most responsible for that breakdown are President Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. For three consecutive years - 2010, 2011, and 2012 - the Democrat-controlled Senate did not pass a budget bill because Reid knew that it would be a political liability to do so.

Passing a budget that detailed the Democrats' plans for spending and revenue as official policy would have exposed the "something for nothing" swindle that Reid and his colleagues are perpetrating on the American people. Republican challengers campaigning against Democrat senators could have cited their votes for the budget bill, saying that the incumbent voted for this, that, or the other unpopular component of the measure. Reid and the Democrats knew this. They knew very well that the federal deficit was spiraling out of control, that there was not enough tax revenue to pay the mushrooming cost of entitlement programs (Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment, et cetera), and certainly there wasn't enough revenue to pay for all the boondoggles and giveaways the Democrats voted for in the name of "stimulus."

Adding to this, there was not enough revenue to pay the cost of Obamacare, which Democrats rammed through Congress in March 2010 on a party-line vote. Passing an actual budget would have made clear the unsustainable fiscal nightmare into which Democrat policies have plunged the nation during the Obama Age, and so Harry Reid simply didn't pass a budget for three years.

So here we are.



True we are here now.    And for the 2015 Budget, where will we be?     Is the President working on it as we speak, or is he calling for a tee time for this weekend?
 
2013-10-03 12:45:39 PM

netcentric: DeaH: netcentric: Obama sent his Budget Propsal 2 MONTHs late

You do know that the president's budget proposal is largely symbolic. His job is merely to sign or veto what Congress sends him. And Congress has sent him nothing. For over six months, the Senate has been asking the House to negotiate. The House refused. Instead, they shut down the government and are trying to call that negotiation. Spin as hard as you like. This is a House Republican issue, They are at fault. And the public need to make sure they pay.

In the mean time, it would be helpful if the RNC offered to fund WIC instead of crying about people not being able to visit monuments. But I guess they are unable to show the slightest sign of human decency at this point.

Uhhhhmmm...  no

The shutdown is because the federal government doesn't have a budget for fiscal 2014.    Oct 1st started the Fiscal Year.

"The reason it doesn't have a budget is because the Republican-led House passed a budget calling for $3.5 trillion in spending, the Democratically controlled Senate passed a budget calling for $3.7 trillion in spending, and President Obama issued a proposal calling for $3.77 trillion in spending. This happened back in the spring. The House and the Senate passed their budget plans in late March. The president's proposal, the last to be issued came out on April 10th.     Two months too late.... "

In the end,  these 8 years are the OBAMA years.   Not the Pelosi years, the Reid dynasty or Boehner years...    it is up to him to hold peoples feet to the fire.

Now he is going to have to offer something, because he didn't make sure to get a spending plan in place when there was more time.     He was not doing his job.    He still isn't.

Obama deserves credit for this slimdown....

http://reason.com/archives/2013/10/01/let-us-be-clear-obama-deserves -c hief-res


Citing ReaKach (the "Koch" is pronounced "Tard") does not help your case. At all. You can throw as much slime as you want. The Republicans shut the government down. For six months, the Democrats in the Senate have been asking the House to come negotiate. The Senate budget even had Republicans vote for it, unlike the silly Ryan budget that counted on savings from Obamacare, you know, the same Obamacare that the Republicans shut the government down over.

Obama is doing his job. His job is to sign or veto a budget. What budget has been delivered to his desk?

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.ht ml
 
2013-10-03 12:56:15 PM
I'll just leave this here:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I, therefore, intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt." Barack Obama ~ 2006
 
2013-10-03 12:58:00 PM

cman: Feinstein is today's GOP. What we formally knew as the GOP has become today's "assfarking incorporated party"


It's instructive to find that today's liberals consider somebody like Feinstein too conservative.

bdub77: Feinstein is a real piece of work. I can't believe she gets continually re-elected. Talk about someone who should be primaried...


I think they're having trouble cloning Karl Marx, so it might be a while.
 
2013-10-03 01:03:00 PM

Elegy: BMulligan: Elegy: I would be hard pressed to name a bigger authoritarian in the GOP.

Really? Then you're not trying very hard. I'm not about to defend Princess Di - I've loathed that woman longer than a lot of Farkers have been alive - but your statement is more than a little hyperbolic.

Feinstein has voted to expand federal wiretapping powers and reduce the checks and balances in FISA. She was the cosponsor for one of the PATRIOT act extensions. She's a certified "if I can I'm going to take your guns" nut. She supports the death penalty. She supported free speech restrictions like the flag desecration amendment and COICA. She has taken an extremely hard stance on whistleblowers and leakers. She's an ardent supporter of the MPAA and RIAA stance on copyright infringement and copyright law.

For serious, Feinstein is one of the most authoritarian senators in the senate today, and her preference is to wield the power of the state like a club, and clobber you into submission.


Aside form the gun thing (which doesn't particularly move me personally, but reasonable people may reasonably disagree), what you've just described is a "moderate Republican." Like I said, I loathe the woman, but her policy positions are not out of the mainstream, I'm sorry to say.
 
2013-10-03 04:01:37 PM
Which government are you talking about? The elected one or the self-appointed body of obstructionist parasites who tout democracy but really know nothing about it?
 
2013-10-04 07:48:13 AM

jjorsett: cman: Feinstein is today's GOP. What we formally knew as the GOP has become today's "assfarking incorporated party"

It's instructive to find that today's liberals consider somebody like Feinstein too conservative.

bdub77: Feinstein is a real piece of work. I can't believe she gets continually re-elected. Talk about someone who should be primaried...

I think they're having trouble cloning Karl Marx, so it might be a while.


You calling me a Liberal?
 
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