cirby: ...except half a million people didn't "sign up."Half a million visits, about 7100 actual applications, ZERO actually got insurance - because the people who issue the insurance through the site haven't actually been trained yet.Oops.
Dansker: Is the lack of a public option one of them? From my distant vantage point that seems like the biggest flaw.
BojanglesPaladin: Dansker: In the comment of yours, that I replied to first, you sounded like you thought the 1 in 7 signing up would be the end result of all this money and effort.That is an inference you drew, not something I implied. When we are talking about first DAYS results, I have no idea why you would jump to the conclusion that I really meant from now into the indefinite future.
BojanglesPaladin: Dansker: Excactly. I was trying to show you that your math was wrong; "all this money and effort" is for MORE than 15% of 15% of the US population.The most recent CBO estimate, to which I linked, says that the ACA will reduce the number of uninsured by 25 million over ten years.That doesn't answer where you got the 1.1 Billion number from, or why you are using it.
SnapeShots: less than half a million people
BojanglesPaladin: It seems it was actually much, much less....645,000
Cyclometh: I was finally able to get onto my state's exchange website, which had problems the last couple of days.After going through a lengthy application process and filling out endless forms, I was presented with a list of potential choices for insurance coverage for my family.These plans are incredible. Deductibles around a thousand dollars, waived for most stuff, annual max out of pocket that's a little higher than I'd like, but livable... $20 office visits, $10 prescriptions, 80% coinsurance with an out of pocket max that will sting but won't kill me.They're PPO plans, we get to keep our current doctors, pay less, and with credits our premiums will be less than the cost of my car payment.I knew the ACA was going to be good, but this- this is beyond anything I could have expected. As a freelancer and small business owner, this will make my life so much simpler, and enable me to focus on growing my business instead of worrying about having to go back to work in the corporate sector.I farking love it.
qorkfiend: cubic_spleen: unexplained bacon: if it's not perfect in its first two days it's a failure so we should go back to the old system which was...um, perfect.ah the good ol' reliable GOP, rooting for America to fail since 2008 1938 1860.FTFYFTFTFY.
BojanglesPaladin: TNel: Any number above zero at the end of the year is a win in my book. Damn poor people shouldn't have insurance am I right?That's an awfully low and simple minded threshold.Keep in mind that the truly poor can already get Medicare/Medicaid, especially with the expansion, and not all the Exchange plans are actually better than plans that were available on the individual market.So some of these people may end up paying as much and possibly more (especially the single, young, healthy ones) than they had before.
Peki: I was waiting for the website to come back up. It's up? I'll go sign up./says I should be eligible for Medicaid, but who knows if that means I'll actually get help for what's wrong with me
IdBeCrazyIf: Hasn't it only been 2 days jack assmitter?half a million in two days is pretty decent, especially when for a portion of the time the website experienced failure
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