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(Some Raver)   Scientists might have found a cure for noise-induced hearing loss. Still no cure for cancer or dubstep   (thepositive.com) divider line 92
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2013-10-03 06:04:21 AM
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 COOP, THEY SAVE THAT LOVE MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND. MAKES PEOPLE WHO NEED PEOPLE THE LUCKIEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. ALTHOUGH, THEY NEVER SAID A DOGGONE THING ABOUT A CURE FOR HEARING LOSS.
 
2013-10-03 06:25:23 AM
Hope this works and is approved soon.
Turning your face away from the person you are speaking to so you can point your "good" ear at them is not conducive to a good conversation.
 
2013-10-03 06:40:05 AM

BATMANATEE: No cure for idiots who stood next to the speaker stacks during a Dinosaur Jr show.
/What?


Hey, I resemble that remark.

It would awesome if this works out.
 
2013-10-03 06:54:34 AM
HE SAYS HE THINKS HE KNOWS YOU
 
2013-10-03 06:55:30 AM
This far in and no Singles reference yet?
 
2013-10-03 06:57:04 AM
Last "way too loud" concert I went to was KMFDM. Worth the strobe blindness and temporary hearing loss. Roughly like being on the wrong end of a mortar barrage.
 
2013-10-03 07:05:42 AM
They just want to cure male pattern baldness, sneaky farkers...
 
2013-10-03 07:12:21 AM

wildcardjack: Last "way too loud" concert I went to was KMFDM. Worth the strobe blindness and temporary hearing loss. Roughly like being on the wrong end of a mortar barrage.


Odd, back in the 90's they weren't overloud, and they even brought sound reinforcement with them (Subs, of course).
 
2013-10-03 07:14:11 AM
NOOOOOO!!! I want those idiots with 10,000 watt bass amps in their cars to go deaf.
 
2013-10-03 07:28:29 AM
Disaster Area scoffs at your weak attempts at sound pressure level.
 
2013-10-03 07:29:25 AM
Unimpressed.

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2013-10-03 07:57:51 AM
Until now, it has been regarded as impossible to restore the sensory hair cells responsible for hearing once they have been lost, and the type of deafness often suffered by musicians and DJs was assumed to have been incurable.

Just a bit of a nitpick here, but isn't that's how it works? It's incurable until someone finds a cure?
 
2013-10-03 08:00:46 AM
Already covered above, but...

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2013-10-03 08:08:00 AM
Any hope for a cure for Qtip-induced hearing loss?

/not the rapper - I accidentally bopped my eardrum with an actual Qtip
 
2013-10-03 08:08:11 AM
I will volunteer to be their first test subject.
 
kth
2013-10-03 08:17:49 AM
This is relevant to my interests. The husband was a DJ in a dance club, and I stood next to way too many speakers in college.
 
2013-10-03 08:23:40 AM
I imagine success with this leading to a lot of people annoyed with how loud things are... Those hairs are all gonna get blasted away by the first Hulu commercial they're exposed to.
 
2013-10-03 08:39:34 AM

American Decency Association: Sinbox: BATMANATEE: No cure for idiots who stood next to the speaker stacks during a Dinosaur Jr show.
/What?

Could also sub in Blue Oyster Cult or My Bloody Valentine.

The three most painfully loud concerts I've ever attended, bar none.

I didn't get anywhere close to the speakers and my ears hurt for close to two weeks following.

Still love the bands' music but I'd definitely forewarn anybody thinking of seeing them to invest in 'plugs.


MBV indeed.  Amon Tobin now takes the loudest ever crown for me.  Gut busting stuff


I would have to say Ministry on their 1996 "Sphinctour".

I've also heard at Atari Teenage Riot used to be ridiculously loud live.
 
2013-10-03 08:43:31 AM
Hopefully this means more people in middle age sharing the world I already live in, leading to demand for quieter technology.  I'm seeing more and more products and locations simply not regard high-frequency noise pollution as a design consideration.  They figure pretty much anyone over 30 has wilfully destroyed their hearing and they're usually right.
 
2013-10-03 08:44:40 AM

lobotomy survivor: There is terrible dubstep. There is also some awesome dubstep. Looks like someone needs to realize that genre does not determine quality.


This. Skrillex does not represent the genre very well.

I've found Phutureprimitive and Celldweller to worth listening to. Also the the breakdown during 'Raise Your Weapon' (the album version) is a masterpiece of dirty dubstep style.

It's like any genre: a few are real stand-outs and most of it is crap.
 
2013-10-03 08:46:33 AM

Contents Under Pressure: I'll be impressed when they find a cure for tinnitus, which is not the same kind of hearing impediment. I've been to maybe 5 rock concerts in my whole life and have done all I can to prevent hearing loss due to noise, but have tinnitus anyway. It appears to run in the family.  I have a sibling who got it earlier than me and he's been to precisely 0 rock concerts in his life.

Still, epic win. I don't care how people lose their hearing. Being young and liking loud music is not a character flaw. It's just something people do.


Isn't tinnitus (maybe only in some cases) caused by hearing loss? Your brain is compensating for the higher pitched frequencies it can no longer hear? I know a sufferer who gets great relief when he wears his hearing aids, even though his hearing loss is mild.

I've a very mild case of it too, ten years clubbing (up to) four nights a week, best damned years of my life so I'm not sure I regret it.
 
2013-10-03 08:48:22 AM
As I understand it, hearing loss and tinnitus are parts of the same condition, The brain is looking for and replacing the signal from the dead sensory hairs.  In the 90's I tried a lot of doctors , a lot of treatments and spent thousands of dollars I would certainly be up for being in a clinical trial.

I got mine when I had both chickenpox and shingles at age 33.
 
2013-10-03 08:56:51 AM
I only have 50% of my hearing in each ear.
 
2013-10-03 09:08:52 AM

Konataism: In a thread about hearing loss, I feel I need to plug my ACS Pro custom earplugs. Yes they're expensive, but you only have two ears, and they last 5+ years. I got mine a few years ago, when I could no longer rationalize going to concerts without earplugs. Normal foam plugs both hurt my ears, and give off a terrible muffled sound. With these, the volume is just lowered - not distorted.

http://www.acscustom.com/
Mine: http://www.acscustom.com/us/index.php?option=com_content&view=article & id=105&Itemid=52

[www.acscustom.com image 500x363] /hot


$185?  Good Lawd that's a lot of money.  I had always wondered if somebody made a set of earplugs that worked like this.  I work in radio, so I go to concerts for promotions and stuff like that, so earplugs are a must.  For now the foam ones will have to do, but I'll put this on my "can I haz opulence?" wishlist.
 
2013-10-03 09:36:48 AM
Huh. Maybe this will help me with my left ear. I've had Meniere's since I was around 19, fortunately without the debilitating vertigo. However the tinnitus ranges from a mild background chord to a full-blown hair dryer stuffed in my ear.
 
2013-10-03 09:47:28 AM

ph0rk: wildcardjack: Last "way too loud" concert I went to was KMFDM. Worth the strobe blindness and temporary hearing loss. Roughly like being on the wrong end of a mortar barrage.

Odd, back in the 90's they weren't overloud, and they even brought sound reinforcement with them (Subs, of course).


Back in the 90's the main hazard was tequila being thrown about by Herr Watts.

/caught it in the eye at the '97 ATL show
/DISCOPENIS!
 
2013-10-03 09:48:06 AM

croesius: ph0rk: wildcardjack: Last "way too loud" concert I went to was KMFDM. Worth the strobe blindness and temporary hearing loss. Roughly like being on the wrong end of a mortar barrage.

Odd, back in the 90's they weren't overloud, and they even brought sound reinforcement with them (Subs, of course).

Back in the 90's the main hazard was tequila being thrown about by Herr Watts.

/caught it in the eye at the '97 ATL show
/DISCOPENIS!


Forgot to add, I'm currently playing Money, so I'm getting a kick, etc...
 
2013-10-03 09:57:00 AM

Don Piano: I only have 50% of my hearing in each ear.


Well, God gave you two, so you're still at 100%!!!
 
2013-10-03 10:07:22 AM

American Decency Association: I SAID THIS IS RELEVANT TO MY INTERESTS!


Piss is prevalent on Pinterest? I suspected as much but this confirms it.
 
2013-10-03 11:25:23 AM

Sgygus: Finally, a cure for having heard the Who in concert.


You are forgiven.
 
2013-10-03 11:25:42 AM
I have hearing aids in both ears, so this is really cool.

/it was alice in chains for me
 
2013-10-03 11:27:21 AM

Head_Shot: Don Piano: I only have 50% of my hearing in each ear.

Well, God gave you two, so you're still at 100%!!!


That's the joke.
 
2013-10-03 12:18:13 PM

dragonchild: Hopefully this means more people in middle age sharing the world I already live in, leading to demand for quieter technology.  I'm seeing more and more products and locations simply not regard high-frequency noise pollution as a design consideration.  They figure pretty much anyone over 30 has wilfully destroyed their hearing and they're usually right.


Blenders. I don't know what the problem is, I bought a blender recently and it is the loudest, noisiest thing in the kitchen. Which I don't understand because companies advertise the quietest dishwasher, the quietest fridge, then you get this blender that sounds like a 1940s centrifugal jet engine inhaling a toolbox.
 
2013-10-03 01:01:35 PM
Believe me, Hearing aids are NOT the solution. I worked in a shipyard, pounding metal for thirty years, and played RnR as a hobby/sideline. I have tinnitus, nerve damage, age-based loss, and calcification of the middle ear . Being a musician, I'm attuned to the tones, and hearing aids amplify only a narrow range. It sucks. I can barely tune my guitar nowadays.Protect your ears, you're gonna miss the hearing later in life.

/retired, but they consider the middle ear thing my fault
//so I'm stretching out my aids, with superglue and tape.
///really
////$3000 a pop
 
2013-10-03 01:32:16 PM

Mikeyworld: ////$3000 a pop


That's thievery along the same lines as optometrists.
 
2013-10-03 02:22:05 PM

o'really: Head_Shot: Don Piano: I only have 50% of my hearing in each ear.

Well, God gave you two, so you're still at 100%!!!

That's the joke.


What's the joke?
 
kth
2013-10-03 02:59:24 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Mikeyworld: ////$3000 a pop

That's thievery along the same lines as optometrists.


THIS.

The deaf Mr. Kth had stupidly expensive hearing aids which died a couple of years ago. We can't afford new ones that aren't crap. We were going to buy the crap ones with my HSA money from my company last year, but the klutz fell down a flight of stairs and we bought an unseparated shoulder instead.
 
2013-10-03 03:16:22 PM

lobotomy survivor: There is terrible dubstep. There is also some awesome dubstep. Looks like someone needs to realize that genre does not determine quality.


QFT.  Shackleton is deadly deep.

//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi5fVlVRous
 
2013-10-03 05:45:47 PM

kth: Quantum Apostrophe: Mikeyworld: ////$3000 a pop

That's thievery along the same lines as optometrists.

THIS.

The deaf Mr. Kth had stupidly expensive hearing aids which died a couple of years ago. We can't afford new ones that aren't crap. We were going to buy the crap ones with my HSA money from my company last year, but the klutz fell down a flight of stairs and we bought an unseparated shoulder instead.


Unbelievable. If there's one thing the home 3D printing thing SHOULD do is bring down the cost dramatically for such things. The electronics should be doable by any competent hobbyist or EE. Does the hearing aid cost include a hearing test printout of your frequency response curve or do they hide crucial information so you have to buy the hearing aid at the same place?
 
2013-10-03 06:29:11 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: kth: Quantum Apostrophe: Mikeyworld: ////$3000 a pop

That's thievery along the same lines as optometrists.

THIS.

The deaf Mr. Kth had stupidly expensive hearing aids which died a couple of years ago. We can't afford new ones that aren't crap. We were going to buy the crap ones with my HSA money from my company last year, but the klutz fell down a flight of stairs and we bought an unseparated shoulder instead.

Unbelievable. If there's one thing the home 3D printing thing SHOULD do is bring down the cost dramatically for such things. The electronics should be doable by any competent hobbyist or EE. Does the hearing aid cost include a hearing test printout of your frequency response curve or do they hide crucial information so you have to buy the hearing aid at the same place?


My originals were programmable and all that. They (Miracle Ear, btw) tuned them for free every year until..all of a sudden, they quit. I couldn't get them adjusted, even for a fee because the program was deleted by the company (the servicer didn't have it no more). I went to an independant, who told me that the program was propriatary and NOBODY had it. So I'm stuck with slowly unhearable ears. One, finally, self-destructed. The case just disintegrated into little pieces. I've been painting the other with super glue on occasion ever since (it gets cracks, then I glue it). I bought an over-the-ear high-power one at a thrift store and carved the earpiece so's it was comfortable, and now I have different tones on each side.

/$3k is middle-of-road in hearing aids
//most are noe programmable and unless you have the program, you ain't gonna work it, anyway
///hell, just the ear molds cost $125 ea.
 
2013-10-03 07:05:18 PM

Mikeyworld: Quantum Apostrophe: kth: Quantum Apostrophe: Mikeyworld: ////$3000 a pop

That's thievery along the same lines as optometrists.

THIS.

The deaf Mr. Kth had stupidly expensive hearing aids which died a couple of years ago. We can't afford new ones that aren't crap. We were going to buy the crap ones with my HSA money from my company last year, but the klutz fell down a flight of stairs and we bought an unseparated shoulder instead.

Unbelievable. If there's one thing the home 3D printing thing SHOULD do is bring down the cost dramatically for such things. The electronics should be doable by any competent hobbyist or EE. Does the hearing aid cost include a hearing test printout of your frequency response curve or do they hide crucial information so you have to buy the hearing aid at the same place?

My originals were programmable and all that. They (Miracle Ear, btw) tuned them for free every year until..all of a sudden, they quit. I couldn't get them adjusted, even for a fee because the program was deleted by the company (the servicer didn't have it no more). I went to an independant, who told me that the program was propriatary and NOBODY had it. So I'm stuck with slowly unhearable ears. One, finally, self-destructed. The case just disintegrated into little pieces. I've been painting the other with super glue on occasion ever since (it gets cracks, then I glue it). I bought an over-the-ear high-power one at a thrift store and carved the earpiece so's it was comfortable, and now I have different tones on each side.

/$3k is middle-of-road in hearing aids
//most are noe programmable and unless you have the program, you ain't gonna work it, anyway
///hell, just the ear molds cost $125 ea.


I'm more and more repulsed by the unscrupulous attitude of the so-called "professionals" of this world. Optometrists, veterinarians, these audio schmucks, etc. They just collude into a de-facto oligopoly and pretend like they're offering you these incredibly complex services.

Yet we are all supposed to be "educated" by going to university for half our lives, BUT we're too stupid to measure our own hearing, we must trust these selfless professionals who are just there out of the goodness of their hearts...

Disgusting state of affairs.

In the meantime the 3D printing crowd prints out the 50 thousandth Yoda coffee cup and pats itself on the back.

I wonder what the big problem is with hearing aids. People were making them back in the days when the electronics were tube-based and was carried on a belt with daily battery swaps.

I guess the real problem is that these professionals generally collude into buying the correct laws to prevent competition.

/That's usually the way it works, the loudest proponents of a "free market" are generally the first in line to rig the market against being free.
 
2013-10-03 11:13:34 PM
Mikeyworld:  ....I have tinnitus, nerve damage, age-based loss, and calcification of the middle ear....

////$3000 a pop


That is about the price I paid... Similar story.
/plus chronic infections and a punky drainage system.
//Insurance doesn't cover the hardware... Had to get a loan...
 
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