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(Livingston Daily)   To the three cyclists in Michigan that actually signal turns: you will now be allowed to use your right arm for right turns. For the rest, keep running red lights, stop signs and going the wrong way on one-way streets, as usual   (livingstondaily.com) divider line 21
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2013-10-03 09:23:18 AM
2 votes:

Muta: CynicalLA: I may speed but I never impede traffic. I'm always aware of my surroundings and go with the flow of traffic. The laws I break don't affect any other drivers and that's the big difference. Do you understand?

And what you don't understand is that by speeding you are breaking the law.  Reckless driving kills more people than bicycling.  You're a menace to society.



Speeding =/= reckless driving. When the state lowered speeds to 55 mph, driving at 60 didn't suddenly change from 'safe' to 'reckless'.

Traffic moving at different speeds is what causes accidents, not speeding per se. This is why impeding traffic is against the law. This has been pointed out multiple times during the thread. These posts have been ignored by the bicyclists who claim that the law states that cars are supposed to wait or go around. The law actually states that slower-moving vehicles are supposed to pull over and let the faster-moving traffic go past. This applies to bicycles, slow cars, farm equipment*, or really anything that can't keep up with traffic.


*In some states, certain farm equipment needs to have special warning signs and isn't allowed to travel on public roads at night. This isn't because drivers hate farmers; it's because a slow-moving vehicle (even a large one) creates a hazard, especially at night.
2013-10-02 04:44:19 PM
2 votes:

theorellior: Nothing makes me happier than the impotent rage of drivers who can't just run roughshod over every person and thing in their way with their gasoline-powered movement machines. I think the next time I run a stop sign I'm gonna do a little victory waggle with my butt at the fat slobs idling their way toward a stop. Guess what? If I go on a rampage with my bike I might break someone's arm or leg but I can't do that much damage before running out of steam and, besides, someone's gonna cold-cock me before things get too out of hand. Drivers, well, we have to restrain them through strictly-enforced laws because they could run over a herd of grandmothers before even noticing their iPad had been jostled out of their hands.

Sucks to be you, drivers. Sucks to be you.


As a city pedestrian, fark you.
2013-10-02 04:42:55 PM
2 votes:

theorellior: Nothing makes me happier than the impotent rage of drivers who can't just run roughshod over every person and thing in their way with their gasoline-powered movement machines. I think the next time I run a stop sign I'm gonna do a little victory waggle with my butt at the fat slobs idling their way toward a stop. Guess what? If I go on a rampage with my bike I might break someone's arm or leg but I can't do that much damage before running out of steam and, besides, someone's gonna cold-cock me before things get too out of hand. Drivers, well, we have to restrain them through strictly-enforced laws because they could run over a herd of grandmothers before even noticing their iPad had been jostled out of their hands.

Sucks to be you, drivers. Sucks to be you.


I can't wait to accidentally run over you.
2013-10-03 01:07:31 PM
1 votes:

aircraftkiller: bgilmore5: 4. You are capable of traveling within 10 mph of the posted speed limit.

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4. That isn't a requirement of driving on a road unless a minimum speed limit is posted.


The bicyclists in this thread keep saying this. That doesn't make it true. You're supposed to pull over and let people pass you if you can't keep up with the normal flow of traffic.
http://animatedtrafficlaw.org/atlc/2013/08/14/a-bicyclist-impeding-t ra ffic/
2013-10-03 10:03:34 AM
1 votes:

theorellior: Funny, the law says the cyclist is allowed to be on the road regardless of your road rage. I thought you were all concerned about the law? If the cyclist has to stop for stop signs you have to yield the road to another lawful vehicle. Sorry if that makes you angry.


The moment the following happens, I'll consider bikes the equivalent to cars on the roads:

1. You pay taxes for the infrastructure necessary. Bike lane paint isn't free.
2. The police actually enforce laws on cyclists.
3. You are required to have insurance for your bike.
4. You are capable of traveling within 10 mph of the posted speed limit.
5. Those seizure inducing headlights are outlawed.

Without these five points, particularly #1, you are nothing but mooches on society.
2013-10-03 08:30:52 AM
1 votes:

theorellior: Nothing makes me happier than the impotent rage of drivers who can't just run roughshod over every person and thing in their way with their gasoline-powered movement machines. I think the next time I run a stop sign I'm gonna do a little victory waggle with my butt at the fat slobs idling their way toward a stop. Guess what? If I go on a rampage with my bike I might break someone's arm or leg but I can't do that much damage before running out of steam and, besides, someone's gonna cold-cock me before things get too out of hand. Drivers, well, we have to restrain them through strictly-enforced laws because they could run over a herd of grandmothers before even noticing their iPad had been jostled out of their hands.

Sucks to be you, drivers. Sucks to be you.


Honestly, drivers should give bikers the same courtesy that bikers give pedestrians.  "On your right!" as you whiz up behind them. If they don't move, hit the little farker.  The world will not miss anyone on a bike. If they had any money, they'd be in a car.
2013-10-02 10:29:30 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: CynicalLA: If you can't go the speed limit then you shouldn't be blocking the road.

Change the law then, dumbfark. The law says I can take a lane and if you don't like it you can go chase yourself. Or get arrested for murder if you decided to clear the lane yourself. Sucks to be you.


He doesn't need to murder you. He can just huck a baseball, or a bag of flour/rice, or a bucket of sand at you...

/hope you managed to commit thatlicense plate number to memory before your face ate the curb
//not to give any farkers ideas
2013-10-02 06:09:40 PM
1 votes:
Most of you farktards that think they own the road just don't have the patience to be delayed 5 to 10 seconds on your journey. If there is no shoulder, even if there is a shoulder, cyclists are entitled to be in the travel lane. That's a fact. Just slow down for a second and go around. It's not difficult. If you see red every time you see someone on a bike and lump us all into the douchebag category, go fark yourself with a freaking porcupine.

To all those saying most cyclists ignore the law, you're delusional.
2013-10-02 06:03:01 PM
1 votes:
This thread just proves cyclist are assholes.
2013-10-02 05:14:21 PM
1 votes:
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2013-10-02 05:07:18 PM
1 votes:
For the record, I will always do what the law says I am required to do to avoid an accident. Sadly, many cyclist mistake the law for a steel safety cage.
2013-10-02 05:05:57 PM
1 votes:

CynicalLA: The cyclists that decide to use the highway instead of the bike path are the ones that really piss me off. I hope you don't do that.


So, when you're on the highway you follow every traffic law and never speed, right? Because you're all law-abiding like that, right? I mean, fark the scofflaw cyclists, you're better than they are.
2013-10-02 04:58:53 PM
1 votes:
Duty of Bicycle Operator: Operation On Roadway. VC 21202
a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
When overtaking and passing another bicycle or motor vehicle proceeding in the same direction.
When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions (including, but not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes) that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge. For purposes of this section, a "substandard width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.
b) Any person operating a bicycle on a one-way street or highway with two or more marked traffic lanes, may ride as near the left-hand curb or edge of such roadway as practicable.



If the cyclists followed these rules I wouldn't have a problem.  But most don't.
2013-10-02 04:54:43 PM
1 votes:

Uranus Is Huge!: Do you mean 'again'?

Wasn't even charged the last time.

And it felt SO good.


Ahh, a psychopath. Thanks for revealing the true face behind the wheel.
2013-10-02 04:50:52 PM
1 votes:

Uranus Is Huge!: You may understand the law. I understand the legal system

and physics.


Oh, look, another sanctimonious asshat who believes that the road is his because he uses gasoline instead of Cheerios to move around. And now you're talking about breaking the same laws you held sancrosanct just a few posts ago. What, the law's only good for cyclists? Where's that po-faced outrage at cyclists flaunting traffic laws? Awww, it's because you're mad you can't go fast! Poor driver!
2013-10-02 04:50:28 PM
1 votes:

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: CynicalLA: I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants.  You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit.  You are on a bike and I will always win if there is a crash.

The law says I have the right to the road. And, at least the law around here is that you have to be 3 feet from a cyclist when you pass. If you don't like the law, you're welcome to walk or take the bus.


I'm not allowed to ride anywhere but the road or the MUP. Sidewalks are illegal, so not much choice but to be in the road or shoulder, if there is one.
2013-10-02 04:49:51 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: shmashmortion: As a city pedestrian, fark you.

Oh, I avoid pedestrians like the plague. They're even more clueless than drivers. Randomized accident vectors on two legs. No thanks.


Well on average we're pretty slow. But there's not too much difference when dodging a car or speeding bike that thinks its ok to ignore a stop light
2013-10-02 04:48:24 PM
1 votes:

Uranus Is Huge!: I can't wait to accidentally run over you.


Hahahah, if you can catch me. I've been dealing with farktards in cars for decades. You'll have to break some of those laws you're always going on about to run me over. Go on, punk. Do it. Put your money where your mouth is. Run over a cyclist. Feel the warm runny feeling of vindicated murder as the cops drag you from your drivers seat.
2013-10-02 04:48:03 PM
1 votes:

CynicalLA: I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants.  You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit.  You are on a bike and I will always win if there is a crash.


The law says I have the right to the road. And, at least the law around here is that you have to be 3 feet from a cyclist when you pass. If you don't like the law, you're welcome to walk or take the bus.
2013-10-02 04:40:01 PM
1 votes:
Nothing makes me happier than the impotent rage of drivers who can't just run roughshod over every person and thing in their way with their gasoline-powered movement machines. I think the next time I run a stop sign I'm gonna do a little victory waggle with my butt at the fat slobs idling their way toward a stop. Guess what? If I go on a rampage with my bike I might break someone's arm or leg but I can't do that much damage before running out of steam and, besides, someone's gonna cold-cock me before things get too out of hand. Drivers, well, we have to restrain them through strictly-enforced laws because they could run over a herd of grandmothers before even noticing their iPad had been jostled out of their hands.

Sucks to be you, drivers. Sucks to be you.
2013-10-02 04:25:09 PM
1 votes:
And this is in the politics tab why?
 
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