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(Livingston Daily)   To the three cyclists in Michigan that actually signal turns: you will now be allowed to use your right arm for right turns. For the rest, keep running red lights, stop signs and going the wrong way on one-way streets, as usual   (livingstondaily.com) divider line 116
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2013-10-02 04:05:42 PM
Don't forget to be smug, entitled jackasses!
 
2013-10-02 04:21:57 PM
subby sounds fat.
 
2013-10-02 04:22:38 PM
Left/Right politics are destroying this country.
 
2013-10-02 04:23:26 PM

dr_blasto: subby sounds fat.


I wonder if the turn signals on his hoveround work.
 
2013-10-02 04:25:09 PM
And this is in the politics tab why?
 
Bf+
2013-10-02 04:26:50 PM
There's no hate like bike hate.
 
2013-10-02 04:30:23 PM

Madcaplaff: And this is in the politics tab why?


For the same reason people puke in toilets.
 
2013-10-02 04:33:24 PM

Madcaplaff: And this is in the politics tab why?


Cuz moonies hate bikes
 
2013-10-02 04:34:10 PM
Good.

I hate signalling right turns.  It looks like I'm waving.
 
2013-10-02 04:36:52 PM
I had always assumed this was already acceptable.  It's the way I was taught to signal a right turn on a bike.
 
2013-10-02 04:38:17 PM
Are they called the tricyclists?
 
2013-10-02 04:38:25 PM
Maybe the submitter blames cyclists for the collapse of the auto industry in Michigan because, if they had bought cars, none of that would have happened.
 
2013-10-02 04:40:01 PM
Nothing makes me happier than the impotent rage of drivers who can't just run roughshod over every person and thing in their way with their gasoline-powered movement machines. I think the next time I run a stop sign I'm gonna do a little victory waggle with my butt at the fat slobs idling their way toward a stop. Guess what? If I go on a rampage with my bike I might break someone's arm or leg but I can't do that much damage before running out of steam and, besides, someone's gonna cold-cock me before things get too out of hand. Drivers, well, we have to restrain them through strictly-enforced laws because they could run over a herd of grandmothers before even noticing their iPad had been jostled out of their hands.

Sucks to be you, drivers. Sucks to be you.
 
2013-10-02 04:41:18 PM
I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants.  You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit.  You are on a bike and I will always win if there is a crash.
 
2013-10-02 04:42:29 PM
How about going the wrong way in a bike lane?  There are arrows in the lane for a reason.  Driving towards a car adds the speed of both colliding objects together and if you think you're going to be more likely to survive the crash I've got some great farmland to sell you in the middle of the Mojave.
 
2013-10-02 04:42:55 PM

theorellior: Nothing makes me happier than the impotent rage of drivers who can't just run roughshod over every person and thing in their way with their gasoline-powered movement machines. I think the next time I run a stop sign I'm gonna do a little victory waggle with my butt at the fat slobs idling their way toward a stop. Guess what? If I go on a rampage with my bike I might break someone's arm or leg but I can't do that much damage before running out of steam and, besides, someone's gonna cold-cock me before things get too out of hand. Drivers, well, we have to restrain them through strictly-enforced laws because they could run over a herd of grandmothers before even noticing their iPad had been jostled out of their hands.

Sucks to be you, drivers. Sucks to be you.


I can't wait to accidentally run over you.
 
2013-10-02 04:44:19 PM

theorellior: Nothing makes me happier than the impotent rage of drivers who can't just run roughshod over every person and thing in their way with their gasoline-powered movement machines. I think the next time I run a stop sign I'm gonna do a little victory waggle with my butt at the fat slobs idling their way toward a stop. Guess what? If I go on a rampage with my bike I might break someone's arm or leg but I can't do that much damage before running out of steam and, besides, someone's gonna cold-cock me before things get too out of hand. Drivers, well, we have to restrain them through strictly-enforced laws because they could run over a herd of grandmothers before even noticing their iPad had been jostled out of their hands.

Sucks to be you, drivers. Sucks to be you.


As a city pedestrian, fark you.
 
2013-10-02 04:45:05 PM

Hyatus: How about going the wrong way in a bike lane?  There are arrows in the lane for a reason.  Driving towards a car adds the speed of both colliding objects together and if you think you're going to be more likely to survive the crash I've got some great farmland to sell you in the middle of the Mojave.


Some jurisdictions allow bicycles to go the opposite way down one-way streets.

CynicalLA: I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants.  You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit.  You are on a bike and I will always win if there is a crash.


Funny, the law says the cyclist is allowed to be on the road regardless of your road rage. I thought you were all concerned about the law? If the cyclist has to stop for stop signs you have to yield the road to another lawful vehicle. Sorry if that makes you angry.
 
2013-10-02 04:46:13 PM

meat0918: I hate signalling right turns. It looks like I'm waving.


Yeah, I use my left hand because it's the convention, but I always wonder while I'm doing it if I would be better off signaling with my right.
 
2013-10-02 04:46:14 PM

shmashmortion: As a city pedestrian, fark you.


Oh, I avoid pedestrians like the plague. They're even more clueless than drivers. Randomized accident vectors on two legs. No thanks.
 
2013-10-02 04:46:28 PM

theorellior: Hyatus: How about going the wrong way in a bike lane?  There are arrows in the lane for a reason.  Driving towards a car adds the speed of both colliding objects together and if you think you're going to be more likely to survive the crash I've got some great farmland to sell you in the middle of the Mojave.

Some jurisdictions allow bicycles to go the opposite way down one-way streets.

CynicalLA: I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants.  You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit.  You are on a bike and I will always win if there is a crash.

Funny, the law says the cyclist is allowed to be on the road regardless of your road rage. I thought you were all concerned about the law? If the cyclist has to stop for stop signs you have to yield the road to another lawful vehicle. Sorry if that makes you angry.


You may understand the law. I understand the legal system

and physics.
 
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2013-10-02 04:47:27 PM

CynicalLA: I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants.  You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit.  You are on a bike and I will always win if there is a crash.


You've just outed yourself, Emma.
 
2013-10-02 04:48:03 PM

CynicalLA: I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants.  You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit.  You are on a bike and I will always win if there is a crash.


The law says I have the right to the road. And, at least the law around here is that you have to be 3 feet from a cyclist when you pass. If you don't like the law, you're welcome to walk or take the bus.
 
2013-10-02 04:48:24 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: I can't wait to accidentally run over you.


Hahahah, if you can catch me. I've been dealing with farktards in cars for decades. You'll have to break some of those laws you're always going on about to run me over. Go on, punk. Do it. Put your money where your mouth is. Run over a cyclist. Feel the warm runny feeling of vindicated murder as the cops drag you from your drivers seat.
 
2013-10-02 04:48:35 PM

T-Servo: dr_blasto: subby sounds fat.

I wonder if the turn signals on his hoveround work.


As I was riding my bike last night, I saw a fat guy on a scooter/wheelchair thing with a flag. He had a dog on a leash and was in the middle of the road.

Going backward--as in reverse.
 
2013-10-02 04:49:51 PM

theorellior: shmashmortion: As a city pedestrian, fark you.

Oh, I avoid pedestrians like the plague. They're even more clueless than drivers. Randomized accident vectors on two legs. No thanks.


Well on average we're pretty slow. But there's not too much difference when dodging a car or speeding bike that thinks its ok to ignore a stop light
 
2013-10-02 04:49:58 PM

theorellior: Hyatus: How about going the wrong way in a bike lane?  There are arrows in the lane for a reason.  Driving towards a car adds the speed of both colliding objects together and if you think you're going to be more likely to survive the crash I've got some great farmland to sell you in the middle of the Mojave.

Some jurisdictions allow bicycles to go the opposite way down one-way streets.

CynicalLA: I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants.  You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit.  You are on a bike and I will always win if there is a crash.

Funny, the law says the cyclist is allowed to be on the road regardless of your road rage. I thought you were all concerned about the law? If the cyclist has to stop for stop signs you have to yield the road to another lawful vehicle. Sorry if that makes you angry.


If you can't go the speed limit then you shouldn't be blocking the road.   I will continue to get as close as possible and make them rethink their stupid plan.  Who wins if there is a crash is all that matters.
 
2013-10-02 04:50:18 PM

theorellior: Uranus Is Huge!: I can't wait to accidentally run over you.

Hahahah, if you can catch me. I've been dealing with farktards in cars for decades. You'll have to break some of those laws you're always going on about to run me over. Go on, punk. Do it. Put your money where your mouth is. Run over a cyclist. Feel the warm runny feeling of vindicated murder as the cops drag you from your drivers seat.


Do you mean 'again'?

Wasn't even charged the last time.

And it felt SO good.
 
2013-10-02 04:50:28 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: CynicalLA: I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants.  You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit.  You are on a bike and I will always win if there is a crash.

The law says I have the right to the road. And, at least the law around here is that you have to be 3 feet from a cyclist when you pass. If you don't like the law, you're welcome to walk or take the bus.


I'm not allowed to ride anywhere but the road or the MUP. Sidewalks are illegal, so not much choice but to be in the road or shoulder, if there is one.
 
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2013-10-02 04:50:51 PM

theorellior: shmashmortion: As a city pedestrian, fark you.

Oh, I avoid pedestrians like the plague. They're even more clueless than drivers. Randomized accident vectors on two legs. No thanks.


I'm thinking that was a joke-- While you're taking up valuable resources, he, as a pedestrian, is far more efficient than your earth-killing bike.
And as a shut-in, screw you wasteful pedestrians!
 
2013-10-02 04:50:52 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: You may understand the law. I understand the legal system

and physics.


Oh, look, another sanctimonious asshat who believes that the road is his because he uses gasoline instead of Cheerios to move around. And now you're talking about breaking the same laws you held sancrosanct just a few posts ago. What, the law's only good for cyclists? Where's that po-faced outrage at cyclists flaunting traffic laws? Awww, it's because you're mad you can't go fast! Poor driver!
 
2013-10-02 04:51:18 PM

Bf+: CynicalLA: I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants.  You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit.  You are on a bike and I will always win if there is a crash.

You've just outed yourself, Emma.


No crashes yet.
 
2013-10-02 04:52:09 PM

theorellior: Uranus Is Huge!: You may understand the law. I understand the legal system

and physics.

Oh, look, another sanctimonious asshat who believes that the road is his because he uses gasoline instead of Cheerios to move around. And now you're talking about breaking the same laws you held sancrosanct just a few posts ago. What, the law's only good for cyclists? Where's that po-faced outrage at cyclists flaunting traffic laws? Awww, it's because you're mad you can't go fast! Poor driver!


So you think it's kind of a dick move to get a rise out of the other side in a thread like this?
 
2013-10-02 04:52:14 PM

CynicalLA: If you can't go the speed limit then you shouldn't be blocking the road.


Change the law then, dumbfark. The law says I can take a lane and if you don't like it you can go chase yourself. Or get arrested for murder if you decided to clear the lane yourself. Sucks to be you.
 
2013-10-02 04:53:38 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: So you think it's kind of a dick move to get a rise out of the other side in a thread like this?


These threads are such a clusterfark of bullshiat posturing on all sides that I couldn't help but want to join the dogpile this time.
 
2013-10-02 04:53:53 PM

theorellior: Nothing makes me happier than the impotent rage of drivers who can't just run roughshod over every person and thing in their way with their gasoline-powered movement machines. I think the next time I run a stop sign I'm gonna do a little victory waggle with my butt at the fat slobs idling their way toward a stop. Guess what? If I go on a rampage with my bike I might break someone's arm or leg but I can't do that much damage before running out of steam and, besides, someone's gonna cold-cock me before things get too out of hand. Drivers, well, we have to restrain them through strictly-enforced laws because they could run over a herd of grandmothers before even noticing their iPad had been jostled out of their hands.

Sucks to be you, drivers. Sucks to be you.


The guy who wrote this comment would appreciate a little civility on the road.
 
2013-10-02 04:54:43 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Do you mean 'again'?

Wasn't even charged the last time.

And it felt SO good.


Ahh, a psychopath. Thanks for revealing the true face behind the wheel.
 
2013-10-02 04:56:01 PM

theorellior: Uranus Is Huge!: Do you mean 'again'?

Wasn't even charged the last time.

And it felt SO good.

Ahh, a psychopath. Thanks for revealing the true face behind the wheel.


I stencil little bike helmets under my driver's side window after each kill.
 
2013-10-02 04:56:36 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: The guy who wrote this comment would appreciate a little civility on the road.


Fark civility. Drivers are like cows: they want nothing more than to kill you and everyone you love. I ride like I've got a target on my back.
 
2013-10-02 04:56:47 PM
Why is this in the Politics tab?
 
2013-10-02 04:57:46 PM

meat0918: Good.

I hate signalling right turns.  It looks like I'm waving.


That is exactly what happened to me.  I was approaching an intersection and a cop was waiting on the other side so I though, "hmmm, I better signal my right turn else the cop will be a dick and give me a ticket".  I Put my left hand up at a right angle to signal the turn and the cop waved back.  After that I figured if it was possible for a cop not to recognize the hand signal for a right turn then it was pretty likely that a normal motorist wouldn't either.  After that, the one time a week when I would signal a right turn, I just stuck my right arm out.
 
2013-10-02 04:58:04 PM

theorellior: Uranus Is Huge!: The guy who wrote this comment would appreciate a little civility on the road.

Fark civility. Drivers are like cows: they want nothing more than to kill you and everyone you love. I ride like I've got a target on my back.


Well, if you're blowing through stop signs and ignoring laws because your feet are stuck to the pedals, you'd better be.
 
2013-10-02 04:58:04 PM

theorellior: Uranus Is Huge!: The guy who wrote this comment would appreciate a little civility on the road.

Fark civility. Drivers are like cows: they want nothing more than to kill you and everyone you love. I ride like I've got a target on my back.


lolwut?
 
2013-10-02 04:58:27 PM
Internet tough guys, internet tough guys everywhere.
 
2013-10-02 04:58:53 PM
Duty of Bicycle Operator: Operation On Roadway. VC 21202
a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
When overtaking and passing another bicycle or motor vehicle proceeding in the same direction.
When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions (including, but not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes) that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge. For purposes of this section, a "substandard width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.
b) Any person operating a bicycle on a one-way street or highway with two or more marked traffic lanes, may ride as near the left-hand curb or edge of such roadway as practicable.



If the cyclists followed these rules I wouldn't have a problem.  But most don't.
 
2013-10-02 04:59:41 PM
Ooh, bike thread! We need more of them, as cyclists have officially passed Apple product owners and college liberals as the most easily trolled demographic on Fark.
 
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2013-10-02 05:00:51 PM

Muta: meat0918: Good.

I hate signalling right turns.  It looks like I'm waving.

That is exactly what happened to me.  I was approaching an intersection and a cop was waiting on the other side so I though, "hmmm, I better signal my right turn else the cop will be a dick and give me a ticket".  I Put my left hand up at a right angle to signal the turn and the cop waved back.  After that I figured if it was possible for a cop not to recognize the hand signal for a right turn then it was pretty likely that a normal motorist wouldn't either.  After that, the one time a week when I would signal a right turn, I just stuck my right arm out.


Heh-- This happened to a friend of mine.
How many drivers knbow what that signal means, anyway-- I just point.
me...that way... OK?
 
2013-10-02 05:00:56 PM

CynicalLA: I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants.  You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit.


I stay as far to the right that is safe.
 
2013-10-02 05:01:21 PM

theorellior: CynicalLA: If you can't go the speed limit then you shouldn't be blocking the road.

Change the law then, dumbfark. The law says I can take a lane and if you don't like it you can go chase yourself. Or get arrested for murder if you decided to clear the lane yourself. Sucks to be you.


I would still be alive and you would be roadkill.  I think you have it backwards.
 
2013-10-02 05:01:31 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Well, if you're blowing through stop signs and ignoring laws because your feet are stuck to the pedals, you'd better be.


Say, you wouldn't have heard of any drivers in this thread expressing their desire to kill cyclists or anything, have you? That might have something to do with it.
 
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