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(Washington Post)   Breaking: Boehner, McConnell, Pelosi and Reid will be meeting at the White House with President Obama at 5:30 ET today. Will this standoff end?   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 625
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2013-10-02 05:10:28 PM

Somacandra: cameroncrazy1984: Saiga410: Bacontastesgood: Saiga410: Um you can negotiate your job and job roles at any time.

Your job contract wasn't written over 200 years ago on parchment.  The house passes a budget, or they aren't doing their job.  Our speaker has deliberately kept a budget from passing.  Not hard.

They did pass a budget.  It is not their fault the dems will not pass a clean version of it through the Senate.

It's not the Senate's job to rubber stamp the House budget. It IS the GOP's fault that they can't take losing.

Also, the Senate passed a budget and then spent the summer asking for a Conference Committee but the Republicans said no.


Yep, I mentioned that earlier in this thread, at least about the "passing a budget" part.
 
2013-10-02 05:10:48 PM

Skleenar: Dusk-You-n-Me: Oh this is a fun game! Let's also have the GOP vote in line with the will of the people on gun control, raising taxes on the wealthy, and immigration reform. Three quarters of Americans oppose Congress shutting down the federal government to block implementation of the Affordable Care Act. Will of the people doesn't mean dick to them, so don't hold it up like some righteous trophy. It ain't.

How about we have the GOP populate the House or Representative in proportion with the will of the people, too?


Dem votes only count for 3/5ths.

/actually about true in some states
 
2013-10-02 05:15:19 PM

FeFiFoFark: I have concluded that Fark is a liberal echo chamber.


/NTTAWWT


If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.
 
2013-10-02 05:16:44 PM

that bosnian sniper: This is just me, but I'd prefer he didn't. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I'd much rather he offer Boehner and McConnell a lifeline in exchange for turning on the tea party.


I see where you're coming from, but unless it comes with a written in blood assurance they will

A. Not do this with the debt ceiling in 2 weeks
B. Not do this with any future CRs
C. Name rational people to a conference committee to work with the Senate on an actual budget
D. Stop blocking judicial nominees in the Senate out of spite

then they can both fark off and hang from that life line.

This is more than just about the here and now.  It's about Presidents forevermore having to face situations like this whenever some nutjobs get enough votes in either party, and citizens across the country having to suffer as a result.  It needs to farking end or this nation is just going to be farked in the long run.
 
2013-10-02 05:20:16 PM

Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.


Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5
 
2013-10-02 05:20:29 PM
Well? It's 5:17 on the east cost. this is what i imagine:

Boehner  - staring at himself in the washroom mirror and chewing breath mints

Pelosi - on the phone to a moderate (R)

McConnell - eating lettuce leaves

Reid - stroking the boxing gloves he keeps in a desk drawer

Obama - on the phone with Bill Clinton and wishing he still smoked - for, you know, after the meeting
 
2013-10-02 05:22:22 PM

parasol: McConnell - eating lettuce leaves


I LOLed.
 
2013-10-02 05:22:54 PM

parasol: Well? It's 5:17 on the east cost. this is what i imagine:

Boehner  - staring at himself in the washroom mirror and chewing breath mints

Pelosi - on the phone to a moderate (R)

McConnell - eating lettuce leaves

Reid - stroking the boxing gloves he keeps in a desk drawer

Obama - on the phone with Bill Clinton and wishing he still smoked - for, you know, after the meeting

and dosing Boehner's & McConnell's iced tea with the ricin.
 
2013-10-02 05:23:16 PM
Meeting in 7 minutes...
 
2013-10-02 05:24:04 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.

Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5


This is 100% accurate.
 
2013-10-02 05:24:55 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.

Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5


That's actually a very concise and clever way to display the problem with media "balance".

Bravo, consider it stolen for future use!
 
2013-10-02 05:25:13 PM

parasol: Well? It's 5:17 on the east cost. this is what i imagine:

Boehner  - staring at himself in the washroom mirror and chewing breath mints

Pelosi - on the phone to a moderate (R)

McConnell - eating lettuce leaves

Reid - stroking the boxing gloves he keeps in a desk drawer

Obama - on the phone with Bill Clinton and wishing he still smoked - for, you know, after the meeting


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-02 05:25:21 PM

parasol: Obama - on the phone with Bill Clinton and wishing he still smoked - for, you know, after the meeting


I'm pretty sure that once he's out of office, those two are going to share a bowl. I'll bet Clinton has burned one down with W already.
 
2013-10-02 05:25:55 PM

Somacandra: cameroncrazy1984: Saiga410: Bacontastesgood: Saiga410: Um you can negotiate your job and job roles at any time.

Your job contract wasn't written over 200 years ago on parchment.  The house passes a budget, or they aren't doing their job.  Our speaker has deliberately kept a budget from passing.  Not hard.

They did pass a budget.  It is not their fault the dems will not pass a clean version of it through the Senate.

It's not the Senate's job to rubber stamp the House budget. It IS the GOP's fault that they can't take losing.

Also, the Senate passed a budget and then spent the summer asking for a Conference Committee but the Republicans said no.


The tea Party has been planning this shutdown for a long time. It's what they wanted. Obamacare is just the excuse.
 
2013-10-02 05:25:55 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Dusk-You-n-Me: Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.

Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5

This is 100% accurate.


60% of the time, he is right every time.
 
2013-10-02 05:27:15 PM
 
2013-10-02 05:28:00 PM

Heliovdrake: ManateeGag: DamnYankees: Obama better just say "my offer is nothing". If he gives a farking thing its a disaster.

the only thing he should give Boehner and McConnell is his pimp hand

/and that biatch Pelosi too.

Thank you for the month of Totalfark!

/yay!


you are quite welcome.  I enjoy your antics.
 
2013-10-02 05:28:11 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.

Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5


But polls say that the majority of Americans don't like 4, so we should go with 5.
 
2013-10-02 05:31:09 PM
Breaking: Boehner, McConnell, Pelosi and Reid will be meeting at the White House with President Obama at 5:30 ET today.

I rather wonder what kind of hardcore action is going to happen???
 
2013-10-02 05:31:57 PM
Great line from Ed Kilgore today:

Now I don't know anything about the president's relationship with Boehner. But it's becoming a matter of national security for him to find some way to take him aside, maybe give the Speaker a cigarette from his secret stash, and say: "I will see you in Hell before I negotiate over the debt limit. And if you let a default happen, I will devote the rest of my presidency to making sure you, personally, bear the blame, and go down in history with our most despised traitors and criminals. For generations, little school children in Ohio will cross themselves and make hex signs when your name is mentioned. So do not,  do not, go back and tell your crazy people they can win if they just stick together."
 
2013-10-02 05:32:02 PM

Testiclaw: That's actually a very concise and clever way to display the problem with media "balance".

Bravo, consider it stolen for future use!


I stole it myself, via a tweet from this James Fallows article.
 
2013-10-02 05:32:07 PM

ComicBookGuy: Breaking: Boehner, McConnell, Pelosi and Reid will be meeting at the White House with President Obama at 5:30 ET today.

I rather wonder what kind of hardcore action is going to happen???


DVDA on Pelosi?
 
2013-10-02 05:33:05 PM

Lando Lincoln: Dusk-You-n-Me: Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.

Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5

But polls say that the majority of Americans don't like 4, so we should go with 5.


60% of Americans like 4, but only 30% like "the number that is smaller than 5".
 
2013-10-02 05:33:26 PM

Soup4Bonnie: CSpan video feed of Obama meeting


You almost got me!
 
2013-10-02 05:34:21 PM

ManateeGag: DVDA on Pelosi?


There's probably not enough viagra in the world to get Boehner and McConnell hard enough to simultaneously penetrate Nancy's anus.
 
2013-10-02 05:39:04 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Dusk-You-n-Me: Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.

Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5

This is 100% accurate.


I was going to suggest that the media response would be something like "Arithmetic classes across the country are being held up by the continued dispute over the value of 2+2. Democrats and some mainline Republicans insist 2+2=4 just as it has from the beginning of time. But conservatives in the GOP and especially Tea Party members say the value of 2+2 has changed due to burdensome government regulations, increased taxes, and gay marriage. Here's how 2+2=5 will effect you..."

But I guess that wasn't as concise.
 
Bf+
2013-10-02 05:39:18 PM

jst3p: cameroncrazy1984: Dusk-You-n-Me: Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.

Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5

This is 100% accurate.

60% of the time, he is right every time.



FoxNews: 2+2=7
 
2013-10-02 05:40:11 PM

KarmicDisaster: The tea Party has been planning this shutdown for a long time. It's what they wanted. Obamacare is just the excuse.


It's practically their dream come true. These are some departments that are closed or mostly closed:

USDA inspections, food stamps, the Smithsonian, National Science Foundation, Department of Commerce, Department of Education, National Labor Relations Board, OSHA, National Gallery of Art, Federal Trade Commission, National Parks, Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission, Federal Election Commission, Federal Communications Commission, FDIC Office of the Inspector General, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Consumer Product Safety Commission, Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, and U.S. courts close in ten days.

Everything else is on until the money runs out.

It's Christmas in Derpghanistan.
 
2013-10-02 05:41:13 PM

Bf+: jst3p: cameroncrazy1984: Dusk-You-n-Me: Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.

Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5

This is 100% accurate.

60% of the time, he is right every time.


FoxNews: 2+2=7


Fox news viewer:

2+2= Potato
 
2013-10-02 05:41:23 PM

Bf+: jst3p: cameroncrazy1984: Dusk-You-n-Me: Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.

Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5

This is 100% accurate.

60% of the time, he is right every time.


FoxNews: 2+2=7


i disagree FoxNews: 2+2 = AMERICA
 
2013-10-02 05:41:37 PM

Klom Dark: sinanju: If the GOP wants to negotiate, Obama should start with a comprehensive firearms ban in exchange for defunding Obamacare.  Not assault weapons -- firearms.  All of them.

No, don't tie in this gun grabbing crap. I'm a two time Obama voter, but do not agree with the gun-grabby stuff. It's too "American" for many Obama voters. That's an integral right of being a US Citizen: we can get guns if we want them.


I picked that example specifically because it is ridiculous.  As ridiculous as defunding Obamacare -- an act that would drive up the deficit -- while simultaneously claiming to be concerned about the debt limit.
 
2013-10-02 05:43:38 PM

dwrash: And they are voting in line with the will of the people.  At NO TIME EVER has the majority of Americans been FOR the ACA.. I think the last poll average last week was 38% for and 52% against... so the question is why are the democrats so entrenched in retaining a law that America DOES NOT WANT.

It's very interesting when you look at the real numbers... it seems dems. have been backed into a corner where it's more about saving face then abiding by the will of the people.


See, before it was the RIGHT of the House to keep passing these bills.   But sure, let's talk "will of the people."

The will of the people elected the representatives who first passed the ACA into law.  The will of the people elected the various Presidents who were empowered to make Supreme Court appointments, and the Supreme Court upheld the ACA as a constitutional law.  In our most recent election, the will of the people gave control of the Senate to the Democrats.  The will of the people re-elected Obama as President of the United States ( and the Republican candidate who said he would repeal the ACA was soundly defeated).  So the will of the people is being well represented when the Senate and the President tell the House "NO" to their repeated attempts to change the ACA.

Since this is the second time you haven't commented, I'm going to take that as your concession on the point that the House cannot pass a law where the Senate and the President are firmly united against the legislation. In the world of rubber-meets-the-road politics, the Republicans in the House are engaged in a futile action. What's worse, they are actively damaging the country be perpetuating this shutdown.
 
2013-10-02 05:43:59 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: KarmicDisaster: The tea Party has been planning this shutdown for a long time. It's what they wanted. Obamacare is just the excuse.

It's practically their dream come true. These are some departments that are closed or mostly closed:

USDA inspections, food stamps, the Smithsonian, National Science Foundation, Department of Commerce, Department of Education, National Labor Relations Board, OSHA, National Gallery of Art, Federal Trade Commission, National Parks, Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission, Federal Election Commission, Federal Communications Commission, FDIC Office of the Inspector General, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Consumer Product Safety Commission, Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, and U.S. courts close in ten days.

Everything else is on until the money runs out.

It's Christmas in Derpghanistan.


Based on what I've seen in freeperville you are depressingly correct - it went from amusing, to odd, to frightening awful fast
 
2013-10-02 05:47:01 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.

Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5


Stealing this. Thanks.
 
2013-10-02 05:47:13 PM

Shrugging Atlas: I see where you're coming from, but...


I never said it was an honest, good-faith offer. Such an offer is DOA in the House as things stand, if it even makes it to the floor for debate.

It  would on the other hand, provoke tea partiers to continue flying their true colors louder and prouder, and play divide-and-conquer between tea partiers and RINO's.
 
2013-10-02 05:48:31 PM

dwrash: And they are voting in line with the will of the people.  At NO TIME EVER has the majority of Americans been FOR the ACA.. I think the last poll average last week was 38% for and 52% against... so the question is why are the democrats so entrenched in retaining a law that America DOES NOT WANT.


Let's assume for a minute that not one single citizen wants the ACA (other than Obama) and that implementing it will mean the end of anything good in the universe. This still isn't the way to deal with that. Funding the government isn't optional. It must be done. There's nothing to negotiate there. The government must be funded. I keep seeing people post that it's entirely reasonable to use the CR as negotiating leverage, but it isn't. The only things that are negotiable are things that the nation can do without, and that does not include funding for the government.
There is a legislative process for addressing bad/unpopular laws. Now, House Republicans have tried to repeal it 40+ times and failed without having bothered to offer an alternative or propose changes to the existing law. They either need to go back to the drawing board or simply concede defeat. If they're serious about their opposition, they'll work up legislation to either change or replace the ACA. They have to understand by now that simply repealing it won't happen and continuing to try is a waste of time and money.
Also, imagine for a minute if Obama had received a clean CR and instead of signing it demanded immediate amnesty and citizenship for every illegal alien in the country, then gone on to accuse Republicans of being unwilling to negotiate in the face of a government shutdown and then perhaps you'll start to understand why so many people are outraged at the Republicans for what's going on now.
 
2013-10-02 05:53:17 PM

naturalbornposer: InmanRoshi: naturalbornposer: Slaves2Darkness: NFA: If Obama has any balls at all, he'll have Boehner arrested for treason and then go on TV and announce the rest of the GOP is next.

If he did I would start the revolution. Understand I'm a liberal Democrat, but if the President starts arresting people for shiat like this it's time to execute people like you.

Agreed. Different beliefs are different. We're supposed to work together, not stonewall each other like the present government is doing. If we tried to erradicate everyone that disagrees with what we think is "right", everyone dies.

You are not correctly diagnosing what is going on here.

There already is "comprimise", and bipartisan support to pass a clean CR bill.   If Boehner let it hit the Congressional Floor, which has already cleared with bipatisan support in the Senate, it would easily pass with votes from both sides of the aisle.

The issue is that a small faction of neo-confederate, anti-government insurrectionists and anarchists who believe they have been sent to Washington by their constituents to sabotage government from the inside.   They're holding our   governance hostage by the threat of the gun.  The Republican Party leadership is too weak and dickless to get them to fall in line, and the Democrats can't set a precedent of rewarding hostage taking tactics.

The thing to remember is this "minority" you describe represents a large portion of the nation, not ten fringe extremists. This us and them attitude is going to split this nation in half, if not quarters (yay fractions!). Both sides are to blame for demonizing each other. Even in a 70-30 win, 30% of our nation feels they're getting shafted. Not 30 people, 30 percent. In a nation of over three hundred million that is 90,000,000 people feeling like someone else is dictating their lives against their will. Let that set in. You don't like it when its done to you.


Hey, a large portion of the nation likes to smoke weed as well. It's still a violation of Federal law, and of state/local law in most places. That's what the ACA is - the law of the land. Tough shiat that people are unhappy about something I am certain most of them do not even partially understand. It. Is. The. Farking. Law. Did I mention it's the law? It's the law.
 
2013-10-02 05:58:42 PM

sinanju: Klom Dark: sinanju: If the GOP wants to negotiate, Obama should start with a comprehensive firearms ban in exchange for defunding Obamacare.  Not assault weapons -- firearms.  All of them.

No, don't tie in this gun grabbing crap. I'm a two time Obama voter, but do not agree with the gun-grabby stuff. It's too "American" for many Obama voters. That's an integral right of being a US Citizen: we can get guns if we want them.

I picked that example specifically because it is ridiculous.  As ridiculous as defunding Obamacare -- an act that would drive up the deficit -- while simultaneously claiming to be concerned about the debt limit.


OK, I got ya now. Guess I had a Woosh moment... :)
 
2013-10-02 06:00:48 PM

parasol: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: KarmicDisaster: The tea Party has been planning this shutdown for a long time. It's what they wanted. Obamacare is just the excuse.

It's practically their dream come true. These are some departments that are closed or mostly closed:

USDA inspections, food stamps, the Smithsonian, National Science Foundation, Department of Commerce, Department of Education, National Labor Relations Board, OSHA, National Gallery of Art, Federal Trade Commission, National Parks, Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission, Federal Election Commission, Federal Communications Commission, FDIC Office of the Inspector General, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Consumer Product Safety Commission, Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, and U.S. courts close in ten days.

Everything else is on until the money runs out.

It's Christmas in Derpghanistan.

Based on what I've seen in freeperville you are depressingly correct - it went from amusing, to odd, to frightening awful fast


That's the thing, there won't be any deal. That's why the Teaparty is asking for their impossible laundry list as well as defunding ACA.  Their goal was to "shuterdown". They have accomplished that, and they aren't going to give that sense of power up. They have accomplised more economic terrorism with this attack than any group of terrorists ever did, and until regular republicans revolt and kick them out, which is going to take a lot, they will persist because attacking the US government was their goal.
 
2013-10-02 06:04:13 PM
He needs to be in Oprah, and have her say 'you get nothing!  and you get nothing!  Everyone gets nothing!'

Then she walks out, and he says 'so yeah, that's what i'm offering in exchange for you doing your job and passing the CR'.
 
2013-10-02 06:06:21 PM

theknuckler_33: cameroncrazy1984: Dusk-You-n-Me: Bane of Broone: If agreeing that 2+2=4 makes it an echo chamber then yes.

Dem: 2+2=4
Rep: 2+2=5
Media: 2+2=4.5

This is 100% accurate.

I was going to suggest that the media response would be something like "Arithmetic classes across the country are being held up by the continued dispute over the value of 2+2. Democrats and some mainline Republicans insist 2+2=4 just as it has from the beginning of time. But conservatives in the GOP and especially Tea Party members say the value of 2+2 has changed due to burdensome government regulations, increased taxes, and gay marriage. Here's how 2+2=5 will effect you..."

But I guess that wasn't as concise.


I like both. *Smart'd
 
2013-10-02 06:06:57 PM
Random question - if the government is shutdown, how is C-SPAN working? Does it have some other funding source?
 
2013-10-02 06:09:01 PM

DamnYankees: Random question - if the government is shutdown, how is C-SPAN working? Does it have some other funding source?


"C-SPAN is a nonprofit organization, funded by a 6-cent per subscriber affiliate fee paid by its cable and satellite affiliates" according to Wikipedia.
 
2013-10-02 06:10:06 PM

DamnYankees: Random question - if the government is shutdown, how is C-SPAN working? Does it have some other funding source?


www.c-span.org
 
2013-10-02 06:10:36 PM

DamnYankees: Random question - if the government is shutdown, how is C-SPAN working? Does it have some other funding source?


http://lmwtfy.de/?q=c-span
 
2013-10-02 06:11:18 PM

DamnYankees: Random question - if the government is shutdown, how is C-SPAN working? Does it have some other funding source?


C-SPAN is actually privately-run, funded by cable/satellite subscription fees.
 
2013-10-02 06:12:28 PM
Damn you all.
 
2013-10-02 06:13:30 PM
I heard that C-Span isn't actually funded by the government at all.  Can someone please confirm this?
 
2013-10-02 06:15:41 PM

cameroncrazy1984: dwrash: I never said they were to be a rubber stamp... they can only propose amendments, they cannot create NEW legislation, NEW legislation has to originate in the House.

Uh, then explain why the Senate was able to pass a budget that didn't originate in the House?


I'd rather he go to www.Thomas.gov, and then explain what all those Bills with designations beginning "S.xyz" are, if not Senate Bills.
 
2013-10-02 06:18:49 PM

KarmicDisaster: parasol: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: KarmicDisaster: The tea Party has been planning this shutdown for a long time. It's what they wanted. Obamacare is just the excuse.

It's practically their dream come true. These are some departments that are closed or mostly closed:

USDA inspections, food stamps, the Smithsonian, National Science Foundation, Department of Commerce, Department of Education, National Labor Relations Board, OSHA, National Gallery of Art, Federal Trade Commission, National Parks, Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission, Federal Election Commission, Federal Communications Commission, FDIC Office of the Inspector General, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Consumer Product Safety Commission, Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, and U.S. courts close in ten days.

Everything else is on until the money runs out.

It's Christmas in Derpghanistan.

Based on what I've seen in freeperville you are depressingly correct - it went from amusing, to odd, to frightening awful fast

That's the thing, there won't be any deal. That's why the Teaparty is asking for their impossible laundry list as well as defunding ACA.  Their goal was to "shuterdown". They have accomplished that, and they aren't going to give that sense of power up. They have accomplised more economic terrorism with this attack than any group of terrorists ever did, and until regular republicans revolt and kick them out, which is going to take a lot, they will persist because attacking the US government was their goal.


Which sort of begs the question - if nothing but for historians - are the Tea Party members so ignorant as to their own government and it's underpinnings (ie why the FDA is nice to have) or are they already living so far off the grid they really DON'T care?
Keeping in mind this "faction" is comprised of preppers and self-proclaimed patriots and so on? (NTTIAWIT)
Its an interesting mix of "don't need gov't programs because I am a "have" and "don't need gov't programs because I am paranoid and self-reliant"
The comments from this group scare me - because, as has been mentioned here for days? They don't seem to care about the complex fiscal structure of the US and how many ways things can go wrong.
They don't need to - they are "ready for the revolution"
 
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