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(Fox News)   Republican plan to pass diet funding bills during the government "slimdown" fails to make it out of the House   (foxnews.com) divider line 91
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2013-10-02 09:55:13 AM
I guess fox is committed to solving the deficit through anorexia.
 
2013-10-02 10:05:40 AM
FOX is still calling it a "slimdown"?

I think I'm done with them.
 
2013-10-02 10:06:21 AM

Marcus Aurelius: FOX is still calling it a "slimdown"?


It's pretty ingeniuous - no word in the English language terrifies the Hoverround community more
 
2013-10-02 10:50:48 AM

Marcus Aurelius: FOX is still calling it a "slimdown"?


That's your word of the day from Minitrue.
 
2013-10-02 11:46:06 AM

Marcus Aurelius: FOX is still calling it a "slimdown"?

I think I'm done with them.


Yep. It's horrificially dickish of them and not even an  attempt appear fair or balanced.
 
2013-10-02 11:54:32 AM
Fox News: We attempting to change the center of the solar system to Fox News headquarter in New York City.

Some Texan: New York City?
Midwest Fox News viewers: New York City?

Southern Fox News viewer: Get a rope.
 
2013-10-02 11:56:54 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen, Newsspeak at its finest!
Double + good!
 
2013-10-02 11:58:12 AM
Fox news is Republican agit-prop, this "slimdown" nonsense is just more glaring proof of that.
 
2013-10-02 12:01:27 PM
cdn.dashburst.com
Stop dicking around and send a clean CR to the senate, farkwits.
 
2013-10-02 12:02:20 PM
I love how every Fox article attaches pictures of Obama looking angry.
 
2013-10-02 12:20:28 PM
I'm stunned this didn't work.
 
2013-10-02 12:30:15 PM
House GOP is so inept. This is pathetic. It's almost as pathetic as the fact that they hold enough power to affect our country in significant ways.
 
2013-10-02 12:34:24 PM
I thought the Republicans would have killed this concept once they realized they can't easily attach pork projects to small individual spending bills.
 
2013-10-02 12:53:21 PM

DamnYankees: I'm stunned this didn't work.


It'll probably work the second time around. The first time around, they were trying to pass it through a parliamentary procedure that would cut off debate to 20 minutes for each party, but require 2/3rds supermajority to pass.

The bills had majority votes, but lacked the supermajority necessary to pass.

If they bring it up again, it'll probably pass, where it will be tabled by the Senate. They're trying to use this to frame the Senate Democrats as blocking the reopening of the government.
 
2013-10-02 12:55:59 PM

RexTalionis: It'll probably work the second time around. The first time around, they were trying to pass it through a parliamentary procedure that would cut off debate to 20 minutes for each party, but require 2/3rds supermajority to pass.


Ya I know. It's just crazy they even brought it to the floor without knowing they could win. Remember, Nancy Pelosi never lost a vote. Not a single time.
 
2013-10-02 01:08:56 PM

DamnYankees: Remember, Nancy Pelosi never lost a vote. Not a single time.


Nancy Pelosi also had the advantage of running caucus that doesn't resemble angry bulls at the top of a narrow spiral stairway.
 
2013-10-02 01:10:30 PM

RexTalionis: They're trying to use this to frame the Senate Democrats as blocking the reopening of the government.


Except that the Democrats have made it crystal clear that anything that doesn't fully fund Obamacare is unacceptable, so being surprised that they don't accept it shouldn't surprise anyone.
 
2013-10-02 01:25:29 PM

nmrsnr: RexTalionis: They're trying to use this to frame the Senate Democrats as blocking the reopening of the government.

Except that the Democrats have made it crystal clear that anything that doesn't fully fund Obamacare is unacceptable, so being surprised that they don't accept it shouldn't surprise anyone.


Obamacare funding isn't threatened even a little bit.
 
2013-10-02 01:31:34 PM
Starvation: It's a (R) republicker bedrock value.
 
2013-10-02 01:32:47 PM
The parks funding bill went down by a tally of 252-176, the veterans programs by 264-164 and the D.C. government funding by 265-163.

There are 232 Republicans in the House.  If Boehner is willing to put up things that his own party members won't vote for, when why won't he go whole-hog and try a clean CR?
 
2013-10-02 01:32:59 PM
Slimdown?


i78.photobucket.com

 
2013-10-02 01:34:01 PM

nmrsnr: RexTalionis: They're trying to use this to frame the Senate Democrats as blocking the reopening of the government.

Except that the Democrats have made it crystal clear that anything that doesn't fully fund Obamacare is unacceptable, so being surprised that they don't accept it shouldn't surprise anyone.


The Affordable Care Act is settled legislation and has the force of law.
But these (R) rebublicker biatches are whining like they dropped their ice cream cones.
 
2013-10-02 01:34:27 PM

Karac: The parks funding bill went down by a tally of 252-176, the veterans programs by 264-164 and the D.C. government funding by 265-163.

There are 232 Republicans in the House.  If Boehner is willing to put up things that his own party members won't vote for, when why won't he go whole-hog and try a clean CR?


All GOP members votes for those bills. Those votes all had 200+ votes for, but given procedural rules in the House they needed 2/3 to pass.
 
2013-10-02 01:35:12 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: I love how every Fox article attaches pictures of Obama looking angry.


I'd say it's probably an accurate representation of how the President is feeing about this whole thing.
 
2013-10-02 01:35:28 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-02 01:35:40 PM
Calling it a "slim down" is just another sign that the Republicans know they're eating their own shiat sandwich.

Enjoy, you made it you assholes.
 
2013-10-02 01:35:45 PM

James!: Obamacare funding isn't threatened even a little bit.


It is by Republicans.
 
2013-10-02 01:36:34 PM
The way they're now saying 'slim down' sounds in sync with cutting government excess. They want it to seem like a good thing to happen but will turn around and say Obama caused it to happen and it is therefore bad.
 
2013-10-02 01:36:44 PM
Fox is so inept that they waited until after the shut-down to try "re-branding" it. They should have been using the term for weeks prior. It would still be a dick move, but it wouldn't be so mind-numbingly obvious.
 
2013-10-02 01:38:21 PM
I love it when CNN has a Republican on for an interview. Without exception they sound like they're trying to get out of a murder charge. They sound like every interviewed criminal ever.
 
2013-10-02 01:38:37 PM

Marcus Aurelius: FOX is still calling it a "slimdown"?


"What was slightly horrible, was that from the stream of sound that poured out of his mouth it was almost impossible to distinguish a single word. Just once Winston caught a phrase -- 'complete and final elimination of Obamacare' -- jerked out very rapidly and, as it seemed, all in one piece, like a line of type cast solid. For the rest it was just a noise, a quackquack-quacking. And yet, though you could not actually hear what the man was saying, you could not be in any doubt about its general nature. He might be denouncing Obama and demanding sterner measures against terrorists and abortions, he might be fulminating against the atrocities of the Syrian government, he might be praising Sean Hannity or the heroes in Afghanistan -- it made no difference. Whatever it was, you could be certain that every word of it was pure orthodoxy, pure Fox News.

As he watched the eyeless face with the jaw moving rapidly up and down, Winston had a curious feeling that this was not a real human being but some kind of dummy. It was not the man's brain that was speaking, it was his larynx. The stuff that was coming out of him consisted of words, but it was not speech in the true sense: it was a noise uttered in unconsciousness, like the quacking of a duck."
 
2013-10-02 01:39:15 PM

nmrsnr: James!: Obamacare funding isn't threatened even a little bit.

It is by Republicans.


Nope, it's fully funded shut down or not.
 
2013-10-02 01:40:48 PM
Slimedown?
 
2013-10-02 01:40:49 PM

LessO2: Calling it a "slim down" is just another sign that the Republicans know they're eating their own shiat sandwich.

Enjoy, you made it you assholes.


The analogy I heard last night was they set the house on fire and now they are screaming someone go in and save my baby.
//aka let me pick and choose what gets funded
 
2013-10-02 01:41:23 PM

RexTalionis: DamnYankees: I'm stunned this didn't work.

It'll probably work the second time around. The first time around, they were trying to pass it through a parliamentary procedure that would cut off debate to 20 minutes for each party, but require 2/3rds supermajority to pass.

The bills had majority votes, but lacked the supermajority necessary to pass.

If they bring it up again, it'll probably pass, where it will be tabled by the Senate. They're trying to use this to frame the Senate Democrats as blocking the reopening of the government.


Can't the Senate just add permanent elimination of the debt ceiling to everything the House sends them and then just send it back to the House?
 
2013-10-02 01:42:27 PM

olddeegee: Fox is so inept that they waited until after the shut-down to try "re-branding" it. They should have been using the term for weeks prior. It would still be a dick move, but it wouldn't be so mind-numbingly obvious.


Calling it a "slimdown" before would've undercut their attempts to use it to put pressure on Senate Democrats.

It's still doing that, of course. It is interesting watching the Republican messaging/propaganda operation splinter on the shoals of reality.
 
2013-10-02 01:42:42 PM

DamnYankees: Karac: The parks funding bill went down by a tally of 252-176, the veterans programs by 264-164 and the D.C. government funding by 265-163.

There are 232 Republicans in the House.  If Boehner is willing to put up things that his own party members won't vote for, when why won't he go whole-hog and try a clean CR?

All GOP members votes for those bills. Those votes all had 200+ votes for, but given procedural rules in the House they needed 2/3 to pass.


So what you're saying is that Boehner is so bad at his job that he can't get something to pass even when he's got a hundred extra votes?
 
2013-10-02 01:43:01 PM

Ashyukun: [cdn.dashburst.com image 365x277]
Stop dicking around and send a clean CR to the senate, farkwits.


National Review has explained it: it's not that Republicans don't know the bill has the votes to pass clean or that they're rubbing the Tea Party's nose in the public response over the next week saying "see, if we try to play chicken on this it bites us on the ass", it's that Boehner is genuinely sure if he can get his caucus to fall in line and hold clear on the shut down and later the debt ceiling Obama and Reid will eventually have to give him significant concessions and they can win this.

We're doomed.
 
2013-10-02 01:43:10 PM

olddeegee: Fox is so inept that they waited until after the shut-down to try "re-branding" it. They should have been using the term for weeks prior. It would still be a dick move, but it wouldn't be so mind-numbingly obvious.


It's because they wanted Obama to look bad with the shutdown. But because people are more pissed at Republicans for it, they want to sugarcoat it so it seemed like a good thing.

"Shutdown? No no it's a slimdown. You hate big government? Well what we did was shink it!"
 
2013-10-02 01:43:39 PM

Kornchex: Can't the Senate just add permanent elimination of the debt ceiling to everything the House sends them and then just send it back to the House?


They can. Reporting this morning is that Dems are starting to think about adding a debt ceiling increase to the CR demand.

The thing is, if the Dems want to change their own bill, it needs to go through a regular vote again. That means a filibuster and cloture. It will take, like, 5 days,
 
2013-10-02 01:43:50 PM

Kornchex: Can't the Senate just add permanent elimination of the debt ceiling to everything the House sends them and then just send it back to the House?


They could, but it would look petty. They look like the adults in the room right now, smacking away the GOP's hands as they keep trying to steal a cookie before dinner.
 
2013-10-02 01:45:29 PM

nmrsnr: RexTalionis: They're trying to use this to frame the Senate Democrats as blocking the reopening of the government.

Except that the Democrats have made it crystal clear that anything that doesn't fully fund Obamacare is unacceptable, so being surprised that they don't accept it shouldn't surprise anyone.


Regardless of what these teatards try to do, they have to pass a bill that actively defunds Obamacare. If they do nothing, its funded.
 
2013-10-02 01:46:53 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: [i.imgur.com image 240x180]


OH MY GOD, i needed that laugh.  Ladies and gentlemen, THAT is on-point political commentary on today's GOP.
 
2013-10-02 01:47:29 PM

kidgenius: Regardless of what these teatards try to do, they have to pass a bill that actively defunds Obamacare. If they do nothing, its funded.


Exactly right. That's why this tactic makes NO SENSE AT ALL. This entire plan is founded on the idea that the GOP will use the negative consequences of a shutdown to force the Dems to make changes to Obamacare. if you reduce the negative consequences, you're getting rid of the very leverage over the Democrats you were trying to establish!
 
2013-10-02 01:48:45 PM

js34603: antidisestablishmentarianism: I love how every Fox article attaches pictures of Obama looking angry.

I'd say it's probably an accurate representation of how the President is feeing about this whole thing.


That's fair, but Fox would use this picture:

www.westernjournalism.com

In a fluff story about the president pardoning a turkey on thanksgiving.
 
2013-10-02 01:50:25 PM
Someone pointed this out online:

img.fark.net

A few things.

If the "slimdown" strategy is supposed to be their way of showing us that the shutdown isn't bad, then why are they saying that Obama is making it more hurtful than it has to be.

If the "slimdown" isn't supposed to be a bad thing, it shouldn't be hurting anyone in Fox's eyes right?
 
2013-10-02 01:50:26 PM

WizardofToast: olddeegee: Fox is so inept that they waited until after the shut-down to try "re-branding" it. They should have been using the term for weeks prior. It would still be a dick move, but it wouldn't be so mind-numbingly obvious.

It's because they wanted Obama to look bad with the shutdown. But because people are more pissed at Republicans for it, they want to sugarcoat it so it seemed like a good thing.

"Shutdown? No no it's a slimdown. You hate big government? Well what we did was shink it!"


The only leverage Republicans have is being more resistant to public outcry to fix the situation through compromise, but they also know they're going to get a majority of the blame. In other words, they have to convince people it's a bad enough situation that Democrats should give in to GOP demands, but also convince them that it's not a big enough deal to get angry at Republicans for making these demands.
 
2013-10-02 01:53:33 PM
Republicans, you voted to starve, so we starve.  You can vote to feed everyone, or you can vote for everyone to continue to starve, but you won't be favoring anyone over any other.
 
2013-10-02 01:53:39 PM

Mrtraveler01: Someone pointed this out online:

[img.fark.net image 850x637]

A few things.

If the "slimdown" strategy is supposed to be their way of showing us that the shutdown isn't bad, then why are they saying that Obama is making it more hurtful than it has to be.

If the "slimdown" isn't supposed to be a bad thing, it shouldn't be hurting anyone in Fox's eyes right?


It's like the White House Tour issue: if you feel any discomfort, it's because Obama is unilaterally changing policy to screw you because removing funding from non-military discretionary spending doesn't mean it has to result in a loss of services you support.
 
2013-10-02 01:58:54 PM

Mrtraveler01: Someone pointed this out online:

[img.fark.net image 850x637]

A few things.

If the "slimdown" strategy is supposed to be their way of showing us that the shutdown isn't bad, then why are they saying that Obama is making it more hurtful than it has to be.

If the "slimdown" isn't supposed to be a bad thing, it shouldn't be hurting anyone in Fox's eyes right?


You sound unduly amazed that Fox manages to do a complete 180 in less than a tweet.
 
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