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(Daily Mail)   London Police use computer algorithms to predict where crimes will happen. Difficulty: When that was tried in the U.S., all that ever came up was a Google map of Wall Street   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 27
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2013-10-02 11:46:17 AM
As long as it can prevent horrors like this from occurring.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-10-02 01:16:16 PM
I'd be happier if the gov't would try to solve the problems that cause crime instead of chasing it from place to place.
 
2013-10-02 01:18:55 PM

Sybarite: As long as it can prevent horrors like this from occurring.

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That looks like such an incredibly British robbery.

"I would very much like it if you could give me your handbag."
"I'd prefer not."
"Would it help convince you if I were to push softly on your shoulder?"
"Oh bugger, it's tea time, I've got to go, but we can meet here tomorrow to finish this robbery."
 
2013-10-02 01:24:46 PM
They do try in North America to combat crime in high crime areas.
Then a couple of weeks later, the Prosecutor screams that the courts are getting clogged up and its time to stop fighting crime in high crime areas.

/Propaganda works good for the announcement of combating crime, but the reality costs money.
 
2013-10-02 01:28:06 PM
Here is an officer hard at work.

unitedmonkee.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-02 01:51:35 PM
FTFA: "The system was developed in America from the same kind of calculations used to predict earthquakes."

There are no calculations that can accurately predict earthquakes. All on can say is that the future frequency for a region is likely to be similar to the current frequency - e.g. over the next 10 years it is likely there will be 7 earthquakes greater than magnitude 4.
 
2013-10-02 02:02:24 PM
Los Angeles uses software called PredPol, developed at UCLA and other California universities.  New York City uses the Domain Awareness System from Microsoft, though I can't find much about how that works.
 
2013-10-02 02:02:37 PM
Stop and Frisk
 
2013-10-02 02:03:25 PM

HairBolus: FTFA: "The system was developed in America from the same kind of calculations used to predict earthquakes."

There are no calculations that can accurately predict earthquakes. All on can say is that the future frequency for a region is likely to be similar to the current frequency - e.g. over the next 10 years it is likely there will be 7 earthquakes greater than magnitude 4.


The same is true of the crime system, of course.  It doesn't predict when and where a crime will be committed, it only identifies statistical tendencies that can be used for risk management.
 
2013-10-02 02:07:29 PM
They'll kill the project when some news outlet uncovers that the crime map ends up matching certain demographic maps a little too closely for comfort.

\Race demographics
\\Yeah, I'm an arsehole
\\\But I'm not wrong
 
2013-10-02 02:33:43 PM
Isaac is unimpressed.

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2013-10-02 02:40:07 PM
Just show chicago all the time and it'll be 100% right
 
2013-10-02 02:51:05 PM
Well done on that title, subs

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2013-10-02 02:56:33 PM
London Police use computer algorithms to predict where crimes will happen. Difficulty: When that was tried in the U.S., all that ever came up was a Google map of Wall Street

So the program worked fine, but the criminals were allowed to walk?
 
2013-10-02 03:10:09 PM
Well, *that* algorithm is *obviously* farked if it didn't also return Capitol Hill!
 
2013-10-02 03:13:41 PM
The way I understand it, these "predicitve" systems show trends based on actual reports, so they're only predictive in the sense that future crimes are more likely to occur in areas where large numbers of crimes are already occurring.
 
2013-10-02 03:22:52 PM
I thought WATCH_DOGS was set in Chicago...
 
2013-10-02 03:35:15 PM

Cybernetic: The way I understand it, these "predicitve" systems show trends based on actual reports, so they're only predictive in the sense that future crimes are more likely to occur in areas where large numbers of crimes are already occurring.


Basically, but it accounts for time variation, so it extrapolates more/less crime in areas that have been showing new trends, and it also involves spatial correlation, to account for possible spillover in neighboring areas that have not previously been affected.
 
2013-10-02 03:47:08 PM
All they need is NUMB3RS.
 
2013-10-02 04:12:22 PM
Why did the article do a Minority Report reference when that movie used psychics? Should have referenced this instead, which uses a legit computer algorithm...

georgespigot.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-02 04:56:27 PM
No such thing.  Al Gore doesn't have any rhythm.
 
2013-10-02 05:38:06 PM
I can find Detroit on a map too.
 
2013-10-02 08:55:57 PM
Introducing the CHAV SNIFFER 2000!
 
2013-10-03 09:48:46 AM

taurusowner: They'll kill the project when some news outlet uncovers that the crime map ends up matching certain demographic maps a little too closely for comfort.

\Race demographics
\\Yeah, I'm an arsehole
\\\But I'm not wrong


It's more like a socio-economic demographic.
 
2013-10-03 09:50:12 AM

mutterfark: London Police use computer algorithms to predict where crimes will happen. Difficulty: When that was tried in the U.S., all that ever came up was a Google map of Wall Street

So the program worked fine, but the criminals were allowed to walk?


Walk? They more likely drove off in their top of the line BMW.
 
2013-10-03 10:20:05 AM

rocky_howard: Why did the article do a Minority Report reference when that movie used psychics? Should have referenced this instead, which uses a legit computer algorithm...

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See that computer though doesn't say where the crime will take place only that this person will either be killing someone or be killed.
 
2013-10-03 11:49:29 PM
It's Washington, subby.
 
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