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(The New York Times)   See if you can figure out who the New York Times is blaming for the shutdown   (nytimes.com) divider line 97
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2013-10-02 08:18:21 AM
I'll accept it. It should have read petulant children masquerading as adults but it works as well
 
2013-10-02 08:34:56 AM
I'm not sure what they're driving at. Is it in a footnote or something?
 
2013-10-02 09:41:57 AM
Omarion?
 
2013-10-02 09:42:39 AM
Global warming climate change
 
2013-10-02 09:43:06 AM
Seems fairly accurate to me.
 
2013-10-02 09:43:27 AM
It's an editorial subtard...
 
2013-10-02 09:43:59 AM
You mean there are ways for Boner to shut the whole thing down?
 
2013-10-02 09:44:10 AM
The guy who's responsible.
 
2013-10-02 09:44:13 AM
Crab people?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-02 09:45:39 AM
Torgo from Manos: The Hands of Fate.
 
2013-10-02 09:45:55 AM
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2013-10-02 09:46:01 AM
Here's how congress normally works:

1) Pass a bill
2) Pay for said bill


Here's how Republican congress works:

1) Pass a bill
2-43) Attempt to defund said bill
44) Flip out and refuse to pay for anything unless said bill is defunded.


Had the Democrats known that this is how politics is supposed to work now, they should have simply done the same thing. Flip out and refuse to pay for anything unless Single Payer gets passed. Because that's how rational adults who aren't terrorists act. Or something.

/Face it Republicans. It is YOUR fault and nobody elses. You farking pay for the bills you pass.
 
2013-10-02 09:46:05 AM
I'm gonna take a guess that they are defying the trend and are actually blaming the people who are responsible. Do I win a puppy?
 
2013-10-02 09:47:59 AM

Headso: It's an editorial subtard...


THIS. Leftist editorial board has leftist editorial page.

It's when the Times runs their regular news articles through their race-and-gender transmogrifier that the paper earned its rep.  Not for nothing is there the old joke that the Times headline for Armageddon will be

WORLD ENDS
Women, Minorities Hardest Hit
 
2013-10-02 09:48:18 AM
The people who voted for these a$$hats?
 
2013-10-02 09:49:01 AM
They must have forgot that both sides must be equally bad at all times.

Don't worry, it won't happen again.
 
2013-10-02 09:49:07 AM
That would be the guy whose fault this all is.
 
2013-10-02 09:50:05 AM

Wellon Dowd: That would be the guy whose fault this all is.


ding ding ding
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-02 09:50:05 AM
MithrandirBooga:

Had the Democrats known that this is how politics is supposed to work now, they should have simply done the same thing. Flip out and refuse to pay for anything unless Single Payer gets passed. Because that's how rational adults who aren't terrorists act. Or something.

It certainly would have simplified the process, which took 20 some odd years to get any kind of reform passed... and then produce a bill that many thought didn't go far enough because of the COMPROMISE that needed to be made to get it passed.
 
2013-10-02 09:51:30 AM

Gulper Eel: Headso: It's an editorial subtard...

THIS. Leftist editorial board has leftist editorial page.

It's when the Times runs their regular news articles through their race-and-gender transmogrifier that the paper earned its rep.  Not for nothing is there the old joke that the Times headline for Armageddon will be

WORLD ENDS
Women, Minorities Hardest Hit


The Emporer's new suit is MAGNIFICENT, isn't it!!!
 
2013-10-02 09:51:35 AM
FoxNews was warning these idiots that it would not work and they would be blamed for it beforehand. Trying to say it is up for debate now as to who is at fault is even more sad and pathetic then the stupid shutdown.
 
2013-10-02 09:52:10 AM

Gulper Eel: Headso: It's an editorial subtard...

THIS. Leftist editorial board has leftist editorial page.

It's when the Times runs their regular news articles through their race-and-gender transmogrifier that the paper earned its rep.  Not for nothing is there the old joke that the Times headline for Armageddon will be

WORLD ENDS
Women, Minorities Hardest Hit


republicans think anything left of American Thinker is leftist.
 
2013-10-02 09:52:48 AM
!. This is on the Opinion page.
2. Every news outlet should be putting the blame right where it belongs. The time for "both sides are bad" is over.

Can you imagine the modern media reporting on major stories of the past? I shudder to think about CNN running a story about how German fashion designers were complaining about how all the ash from the concentration camps was causing the runways to get slippery making the models slip and fall.
 
2013-10-02 09:53:09 AM
As it's been said a few times, it's an editorial. It's also factually correct. Along with all of the Dems, there are enough people with an R after their name to end this BS, but Boehner won't bring it up for a vote.
 
2013-10-02 09:55:17 AM
There's nothing biased about saying those actively choosing to pursue a shutdown as a means to an end are responsible for a shutdown.
 
2013-10-02 09:56:49 AM

Headso: republicans think anything left of American Thinker is leftist.


New York Republicans will think anything you want them to if you make a big enough campaign contribution.
 
2013-10-02 09:59:32 AM
Don't you mean "Slim-down", subby?
 
2013-10-02 10:02:31 AM
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2013-10-02 10:04:33 AM
It's a combination of factors, probably many of them being designed by smart rich people.

First, Boehner wants to keep his job. If there's a successful revolt in the party, Boehner will lose his job as Speaker and will more or less become a has been. He'll have any importance that came from the job gone, and might even just slink away into the night.

Two, he has a real rival in Eric Cantor, who is more or less a sociopath with eyes on the prize. Not exactly a better scenario IMO for the world, but Boehner is pretty terrible.

Three, Boehner really is a hardline conservative (whore for money), and he's not going to get any less hardline (whorish) as time goes by.

Four, and this is the biggy: moderates are afraid to revolt and vote against the CR. Why? Club for Growth, other conservative orgs are actively trying to get these guys primaried. This is a strategy designed by some rich elitist pricks with money, I mean some real scumbags:

1) GOP says crazy sh*t, has crazy people in it. Starts a war with moderate members.
2) Moderate voters leave the GOP for being crazy. Now you have a higher percentage of crazy people running your party.
3) Next time you have a primary, there's more of a chance you'll get the crazy voters.
4) Money spent by guys with huge pocketbooks (i mean, HUGE) help them get elected. Combine that with the fact that everyone in the moderately conservative district 'have always voted GOP'. Combine that with the fact that Rush Limbaugh has brainwashed many of them. Combine that with good ol' anti-Obama racism. Combine that with gerrymandered districts.
5) Go back to #1.

At this point I'd rather Obama just declare them terrorists. They are in fact hurting people right now, hundreds of thousands of people who need money to live and eat and educate and pay for health expenses. When times get rough those people may not have the money needed to pay for vital healthcare for themselves, their families, and their children, and those die. Even if only a hundred people die because of the furloughs and the impacts on the lives of people...well let me say I hope it was worth it you assholes.

Obama also knows that if they were to bend over to those demands and delay the ACA even more people will suffer. It's a pretty easy decision.
 
2013-10-02 10:07:19 AM

Headso: It's an editorial subtard...


A good editorial makes a cogent argument based on a number of verifiable supporting points, and represents the views of the newspaper's editorial board. So the headline is in fact, correct. Its argument is also correct and convincing--rational people would not expect the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Executive Branch to be governed by one part of one party in 1/2 of the U.S. Legislative Branch through blackmail. Especially after the Senate and the President just won re-elections on the platform that the blackmailers are targeting. No one in these threads has presented a rational "other side" to this. Nor I suspect, can they.
 
2013-10-02 10:11:21 AM

bdub77: Obama also knows that if they were to bend over to those demands and delay the ACA even more people will suffer. It's a pretty easy decision.


When you give into blackmail once, you will get blackmailed again. This happened with the debt ceiling once already, which is why its happening now. There is every reason to think this will continue until the blackmailers reap the whirlwind.
 
2013-10-02 10:13:00 AM
The view from the op-ed pages: GOP takes a beating

Click through for excerpts from:

Kansas City Star
The Oregonian
Seattle Times
Los Angeles Times
San Francisco Chronicle
Arizona Republic
Albuquerque Journal
The Salt Lake Tribune
The Denver Post
Minneapolis Star-Tribune
Des Moines Register
Lexington Herald-Leader
Charleston Gazette
Newark Star-Ledger
Hartford Courant
Portland Press Herald
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Raleigh News & Observer
Concord Monitor
Honolulu Star-Advertiser
The Tennessean
Richmond Times-Dispatch
Chicago Tribune
 
2013-10-02 10:16:12 AM

Somacandra: bdub77: Obama also knows that if they were to bend over to those demands and delay the ACA even more people will suffer. It's a pretty easy decision.

When you give into blackmail once, you will get blackmailed again. This happened with the debt ceiling once already, which is why its happening now. There is every reason to think this will continue until the blackmailers reap the whirlwind.


It won't happen. The GOP needs to die as a party, but they are like the guys on a shipwreck who'd push women and children off the f*cking lifeboats so they could survive.

I'm hopeful this is the beginning of the end, and the moderates will successfully stage a coup, but I'm very doubtful. There simply aren't that many moderates left in that house and the ones remaining are chickenshiats.
 
2013-10-02 10:16:28 AM
The New York Times editorial appears to blame the right people.  Did I win?
 
2013-10-02 10:17:22 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: The view from the op-ed pages: GOP takes a beating

Click through for excerpts from:

Kansas City Star
The Oregonian
Seattle Times
Los Angeles Times
San Francisco Chronicle
Arizona Republic
Albuquerque Journal
The Salt Lake Tribune
The Denver Post
Minneapolis Star-Tribune
Des Moines Register
Lexington Herald-Leader
Charleston Gazette
Newark Star-Ledger
Hartford Courant
Portland Press Herald
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Raleigh News & Observer
Concord Monitor
Honolulu Star-Advertiser
The Tennessean
Richmond Times-Dispatch
Chicago Tribune


I like how the cartoon at the top showed both parties acting like children, when the truth is it's ONE PARTY ACTING LIKE CHILDREN.
 
2013-10-02 10:20:19 AM
bdub77:
I like how the cartoon at the top showed both parties acting like children, when the truth is it's ONE PARTY ACTING LIKE CHILDREN.

The media depends on the narrative that there's legitimate debate to get views.  If it's just "here's how the republicans screwed you today", then they can't bring on 2 "analysts" after each news item to fill all their dead-air.
 
2013-10-02 10:20:30 AM
Damn Liberal media!  They refuse to report the truth about Obummer's SLIM DOWN like those patriots at Fox News!

/I think I just gave myself a derp headache
 
2013-10-02 10:20:50 AM
Yes, well when Republicans decide to shut down the government, generally speaking they will be blamed for it.
 
2013-10-02 10:23:28 AM
Also let me just say, I respect that the Farkmins have to perpetuate the "b-b-b-b-both sides are bad" narrative to drive up drama and pageviews.  But it amuses me to no end that nobody is buying this bullshiat.
 
2013-10-02 10:25:19 AM
Emperor Palpatine says things in the Senate will remain as they are.
 
2013-10-02 10:25:49 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: The view from the op-ed pages: GOP takes a beating


Des Moines Register


Des Moines Register: "If Senate Democrats were to cave to this threat, federal budgets in the future would be held hostage to any pet project of either party. If that's the way the game is to be played, congressional Democrats could pass budget resolutions with some demands of their own: tighter controls on gun and ammo sales; elimination of limits on a woman's right to choose abortion; legalizing same-sex marriage in all 50 states; hefty tax increases on corporations; controls on greenhouse gas emissions; etc. What the American people have seen play out in Washington this week is a pathetic lack of leadership and statesmanship."


this is what I've been saying all along .Do they not realize that if this kind of brinkmanship becomes SOP, the other side can use it as well?
 
2013-10-02 10:26:34 AM
Starting to wonder if the House Republicans see this as a win-win.

Option 1: Defund/Delay Obama's signature legislation
Option 2: Destroy "Obama's" economy while pointing the finger, hope for the best

They don't care how it affects average Americans so long as they're "standing up to Obama."
 
2013-10-02 10:28:53 AM
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d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-02 10:43:09 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: The view from the op-ed pages: GOP takes a beating

Click through for excerpts from:

Kansas City Star
The Oregonian
Seattle Times
Los Angeles Times
San Francisco Chronicle
Arizona Republic
Albuquerque Journal
The Salt Lake Tribune
The Denver Post
Minneapolis Star-Tribune
Des Moines Register
Lexington Herald-Leader
Charleston Gazette
Newark Star-Ledger
Hartford Courant
Portland Press Herald
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Raleigh News & Observer
Concord Monitor
Honolulu Star-Advertiser
The Tennessean
Richmond Times-Dispatch
Chicago Tribune


Pishaw!  All left-leaning loons.

(at least that is what today's logicians on the right will say)
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-02 10:43:56 AM

TheAnalogKid: [img.fark.net image 850x650]


First uninspected meat goes to that headline writer.
 
2013-10-02 10:44:11 AM
I know that says "Opinion" but it seems chock full of fact.

For six months, the Senate has been demanding a conference with the House on the 2014 budget - talks that might have prevented the impasse in the first place. But the House leadership has adamantly refused, knowing it would not succeed in getting all the cuts to taxes and spending that it demands.

I'd like to call a conference for the House leadership to go eat a cactus.
 
2013-10-02 10:45:29 AM

d23: TheAnalogKid: [img.fark.net image 850x650]

First uninspected meat goes to that headline writer.


I'd like to ram my uninspected meat into his skull holes. Repeatedly.
 
2013-10-02 10:46:29 AM
Whenever people make snarky comments about the New York Times having a left-wing bent, I laugh as I recall Judith Miller beating the war drum for Iraq so hard that her arm nearly fell off.
 
2013-10-02 10:48:34 AM
Pretty much the Senate's fault for not passing a budget in the last 5 years.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-02 10:50:46 AM

TheManMythLegend: Pretty much the Senate's fault for not passing a budget in the last 5 years.


LOOK!  A SQUIRREL!
 
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