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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Vince Gilligan reveals alternate endings he had in mind for Breaking Bad, including having Walt make peanut brittle   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 65
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2013-10-02 08:30:50 AM
It ended exactly the way it needed too, a damn near perfect run for a show
 
2013-10-02 08:44:00 AM
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Maybe they will have blue frosting someday.
 
2013-10-02 08:44:05 AM
10.3 million viewers.
All waiting for Low Winter Sun to come on.
 
2013-10-02 08:53:04 AM
The peanut brittle thing could have actually been a really fun visual. Lots of the same motions and an end product that looks similar, but all of the "soul" is gone for him.

Personally, I thought a really cool way to end it would have been with Walt not being exposed to the public, but killed in a drug battle. The final scenes could have been the school holding a memorial for him in the gym, while a bunch of kids skip it to sneak off to the bathroom and indulge in some Blue Sky.
 
2013-10-02 09:15:27 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: It ended exactly the way it needed too, a damn near perfect run for a show


^this. I think the article kinda says, in a way, "hey, if you didn't like the ending we gave you, it could have been a HELL of a lot worse", lol!
 
2013-10-02 09:31:00 AM
Waiting for the arm-chair script writers to come in and tell us again how awful the finale was.
 
2013-10-02 09:32:46 AM

mafiageek1980: IdBeCrazyIf: It ended exactly the way it needed too, a damn near perfect run for a show

^this. I think the article kinda says, in a way, "hey, if you didn't like the ending we gave you, it could have been a HELL of a lot worse", lol!


The El Paso reference, to Walt dying in the arms of his Felina as Baby Blue played that was just a perfect wrap and masterful writing and I agree the article does have a hint of "Hey it could have been total shiat"
 
2013-10-02 09:35:46 AM
Ending would've been much better if it was revealed Walt was the key to understanding the island.
 
2013-10-02 09:40:06 AM
The only way they could have possibly ended it without people asking "Ok, but what happens next?" was for Walt to die. I'm sure the producers realized that if they didn't kill him they'd never get a moment's rest from fans asking that question.
 
2013-10-02 09:47:09 AM

Yes please: The only way they could have possibly ended it without people asking "Ok, but what happens next?" was for Walt to die. I'm sure the producers realized that if they didn't kill him they'd never get a moment's rest from fans asking that question.


No, they could have just had him go somewhere in isolation and take a quiet job like working on an oil rig or a lumber jack. I'm sure fans wouldn't have minded if that happened.
 
2013-10-02 09:50:34 AM
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2013-10-02 09:52:36 AM

Drubell: Ending would've been much better if it was revealed Walt was the key to understanding the island.


Or that the North Jersey mafia was fronting Uncle Jack's operation, so Walt needed to take them out too.
 
2013-10-02 09:52:43 AM

Carth: Yes please: The only way they could have possibly ended it without people asking "Ok, but what happens next?" was for Walt to die. I'm sure the producers realized that if they didn't kill him they'd never get a moment's rest from fans asking that question.

No, they could have just had him go somewhere in isolation and take a quiet job like working on an oil rig or a lumber jack. I'm sure fans wouldn't have minded if that happened.


But is he still cooking meth on the side? I mean, he is, right? Do the police ever catch up with him? What about his cancer, does that come back?
 
2013-10-02 09:57:56 AM
 
2013-10-02 10:06:28 AM

thornhill: Drubell: Ending would've been much better if it was revealed Walt was the key to understanding the island.

Or that the North Jersey mafia was fronting Uncle Jack's operation, so Walt needed to take them out too.


That would have been cool!  Then, in the final sce
 
2013-10-02 10:06:46 AM
I just wish they'd of shown Saul in some way... =(
 
2013-10-02 10:15:13 AM
Don't worry. Colbert is keeping Vince Giiligan chained up in the cellar until he writes more episodes. Colbert still has plenty of questions.
 
2013-10-02 10:15:16 AM

KellyX: I just wish they'd of shown Saul in some way... =(


A 30 second clip after the credits of Saul doing something mundane, like getting his mail, with no combover, no flashy clothes, would have been great.
 
2013-10-02 10:21:28 AM

thornhill: A 30 second clip after the credits of Saul doing something mundane, like getting his mail, with no combover, no flashy clothes, would have been great.


Camera pans in on a line of customers waiting, the camera pans up and we see its a Cinnabon store and the customers are waiting to get their treat. The camera pans further into the back of the store and we see an employee complaining about their husband. The camera turns and we see Saul in uniform and he utters

"What do I look like, you're marriage consultant?"
 
2013-10-02 10:23:07 AM

thornhill: KellyX: I just wish they'd of shown Saul in some way... =(

A 30 second clip after the credits of Saul doing something mundane, like getting his mail, with no combover, no flashy clothes, would have been great.


Hopefully "Better Call Saul" will run a plot line from the past, through the BB period, and into the future, featuring his involvement with WW, GF etc as a subplot. That would provide a vehicle to explain stuff like where Gus was from, what happens to Jessie, Skyler and WWJR afterwards.
 
2013-10-02 10:24:06 AM

KellyX: I just wish they'd of shown Saul in some way... =(


While driving home they cut to the inside of a Cinnabun to see Saul dealing with a moran customer and you see the Volvo drive past through the window.

I always thought it strange that Saul did not have the cash to not have to work after relocation.  He must have skimmed a mil or two off of Walt and Jesse over the two years.
 
2013-10-02 10:57:56 AM

Saiga410: KellyX: I just wish they'd of shown Saul in some way... =(

While driving home they cut to the inside of a Cinnabun to see Saul dealing with a moran customer and you see the Volvo drive past through the window.

I always thought it strange that Saul did not have the cash to not have to work after relocation.  He must have skimmed a mil or two off of Walt and Jesse over the two years.


Huh? When was it implied that Saul didn't have money stocked away? Unlike Walt, I imagine it's all sitting in overseas banks.
 
2013-10-02 10:59:13 AM

thornhill: KellyX: I just wish they'd of shown Saul in some way... =(

A 30 second clip after the credits of Saul doing something mundane, like getting his mail, with no combover, no flashy clothes, would have been great.


They should have done that with Huell. You know, at the end of the credits have a shot of Huell sitting in the safe house, checking his watch and holding his stomach like he's hungry.
 
2013-10-02 11:00:54 AM

thornhill: Saiga410: KellyX: I just wish they'd of shown Saul in some way... =(

While driving home they cut to the inside of a Cinnabun to see Saul dealing with a moran customer and you see the Volvo drive past through the window.

I always thought it strange that Saul did not have the cash to not have to work after relocation.  He must have skimmed a mil or two off of Walt and Jesse over the two years.

Huh? When was it implied that Saul didn't have money stocked away? Unlike Walt, I imagine it's all sitting in overseas banks.


Aww great now I am going to have to go work in a Cinnibun in Fargo to paraphrase.
 
2013-10-02 11:06:11 AM

Saiga410: KellyX: I just wish they'd of shown Saul in some way... =(

While driving home they cut to the inside of a Cinnabun to see Saul dealing with a moran customer and you see the Volvo drive past through the window.

I always thought it strange that Saul did not have the cash to not have to work after relocation.  He must have skimmed a mil or two off of Walt and Jesse over the two years.


If you're going to start a new life, you have to build it.  On top of that, it's better to get a job (even a shiatty one) than to sit around worrying that a hitman is going to get you at any second.  He had the money, but he was cautious - if not paranoid - and having a W-2 to send in couldn't hurt in regards to keeping the law from poking around.
 
2013-10-02 11:15:18 AM

Carth: No, they could have just had him go somewhere in isolation and take a quiet job like working on an oil rig or a lumber jack. I'm sure fans wouldn't have minded if that happened.


Once he admitted what we knew all along (that he cooked meth because he was good at it, not to provide for his family), the chance of him fading into obscurity was virtually nil.
 
2013-10-02 11:19:38 AM

mafiageek1980: IdBeCrazyIf: It ended exactly the way it needed too, a damn near perfect run for a show

^this. I think the article kinda says, in a way, "hey, if you didn't like the ending we gave you, it could have been a HELL of a lot worse", lol!


Yes, the show ended the way it needed to. And, considering the goals he set out to accomplish in the pilot (making enough money for his family to live on for the rest of their lives, etc), he did actually achieve what he set out to do. He just didn't expect the middle part of his plan to get so farked up as he went along. Lots of foreshadowing throughout the show came to a solid conclusion in the last episode.
 
2013-10-02 11:22:33 AM
The thing I still don't get is how he could put ricin in Linda's cigarette without anyone noticing.
 
2013-10-02 11:31:22 AM

you are a puppet: The thing I still don't get is how he could put ricin in Linda's cigarette without anyone noticing.


He put the Ricin in the Stevia packet, not the cigarette.

She is a creature of habit, he knows when she's going to be at the restaurant, and where she is going to sit. He laced one packet, then took all the others so it was the only packet of Stevia available to her, insuring she'd use it.
 
2013-10-02 11:35:27 AM

Free Radical: Waiting for the arm-chair script writers to come in and tell us again how awful the finale was.


Why bother? It was clearly the greatest masterwork ever produced by mankind and if you don't agree you're an arm chair script writer and think it was awful instead of just ok.

Never mind it wasn't even the best episode of the season. It is still beyond reproach and we don't dare question it lest the delicate sensibilities of the "true" fans get offended.

/I particularly liked how they beat us over the head with Lydia's poisoning, completely unlike the rest of the series where much was left for the viewer to figure out on their own...which was part of what made the show great
//oops arm chair script writing, my bad, beyond reproach, got ya
 
2013-10-02 11:37:40 AM

Whatthefark: thornhill: KellyX: I just wish they'd of shown Saul in some way... =(

A 30 second clip after the credits of Saul doing something mundane, like getting his mail, with no combover, no flashy clothes, would have been great.

They should have done that with Huell. You know, at the end of the credits have a shot of Huell sitting in the safe house, checking his watch and holding his stomach like he's hungry.


That would have been hilarious... and appropriate.
 
2013-10-02 11:41:56 AM

HST's Dead Carcass: you are a puppet: The thing I still don't get is how he could put ricin in Linda's cigarette without anyone noticing.

He put the Ricin in the Stevia packet, not the cigarette.

She is a creature of habit, he knows when she's going to be at the restaurant, and where she is going to sit. He laced one packet, then took all the others so it was the only packet of Stevia available to her, insuring she'd use it.


But if Libya had quit smoking then she wouldn't have even put the Stevia in her cigarette. Plothole?
 
2013-10-02 11:42:46 AM
I hope AMC and Gilligan put together a one time, one hour show called "Pinkman" where we get to see what Jesse did after he tore a*s out of that compound.
 
2013-10-02 11:46:30 AM

MJMaloney187: I hope AMC and Gilligan put together a one time, one hour show called "Pinkman" where we get to see what Jesse did after he tore a*s out of that compound.


I would have liked from him one more, "yeah, biatch!" as he drove off.
 
2013-10-02 11:52:48 AM
Anyone else secretely hope that Walt would wipeout his whole ungrateful family and start over.
 
2013-10-02 11:58:13 AM

MJMaloney187: I hope AMC and Gilligan put together a one time, one hour show called "Pinkman" where we get to see what Jesse did after he tore a*s out of that compound.


Probably got arrested almost immediately after he ran out of gas and wandered around on foot, looking like an escaped mental patient.
 
2013-10-02 12:00:51 PM

vwarb: The peanut brittle thing could have actually been a really fun visual.


Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVUcGNJfQWM
 
2013-10-02 12:09:00 PM

MJMaloney187: I hope AMC and Gilligan put together a one time, one hour show called "Pinkman" where we get to see what Jesse did after he tore a*s out of that compound.


A one hour show?.... they made a whole movie about it.  He keeps driving until he meets some girl in trouble and then races some supercars.
 
2013-10-02 12:23:06 PM
In an alternate ending Walter White converts to Judaism.   For the jokes.
 
2013-10-02 12:41:29 PM

flynn80: Anyone else secretely hope that Walt would wipeout his whole ungrateful family and start over.


Eh, the family got annoying at points but I never got the hate for them.  After re-watching seasons 1 and 2 last week, Walt was always kind of a dick.
 
2013-10-02 12:42:57 PM

thornhill: KellyX: I just wish they'd of shown Saul in some way... =(

A 30 second clip after the credits of Saul doing something mundane, like getting his mail, with no combover, no flashy clothes, would have been great.


After I heard that "some" of the items that were withdrawn from auction were Todd's FBI badge and Huell's skeleton, I fully expected to see Huell's rotting carcass found in the hotel room.
 
2013-10-02 12:52:37 PM

Big Beef Burrito: MJMaloney187: I hope AMC and Gilligan put together a one time, one hour show called "Pinkman" where we get to see what Jesse did after he tore a*s out of that compound.

Probably got arrested almost immediately after he ran out of gas and wandered around on foot, looking like an escaped mental patient.


I'm trying not to think that he met the same fate as Mr. Pink at the end of Reservoir Dogs. I watched the end three times. I figure he had about a 5 minute head start. That's pretty close depending on how isolated the compound was. In my mind, Jesse went to Badger's house, took a shower, did a couple bong hits and slept for 2 days. After that ... maybe he went to Kodiak and fished salmon with his smoking hot wife and her girlfriend(s).
 
2013-10-02 01:00:18 PM
All of those alternate endings sound bad, and I'm glad they went where they did.

A part of me was disappointed that Walt wasn't racing frantically back from New Hampshire in order to poison Brock with the ricin and shoot up Jane and Andrea's graves with the M60, which would have given us a fitting final chapter to what is essentially the "Really Bad Stuff Happens to Jesse Pinkman Show", but this was good too.
 
2013-10-02 01:18:32 PM

Zombie Eater: Saiga410: KellyX: I just wish they'd of shown Saul in some way... =(

While driving home they cut to the inside of a Cinnabun to see Saul dealing with a moran customer and you see the Volvo drive past through the window.

I always thought it strange that Saul did not have the cash to not have to work after relocation.  He must have skimmed a mil or two off of Walt and Jesse over the two years.

If you're going to start a new life, you have to build it.  On top of that, it's better to get a job (even a shiatty one) than to sit around worrying that a hitman is going to get you at any second.  He had the money, but he was cautious - if not paranoid - and having a W-2 to send in couldn't hurt in regards to keeping the law from poking around.


I think Saul had lots of money stashed away, and he didn't go to Omaha.  He clearly wanted nothing to do with Walt anymore at that point, so why not spin a tale in case Walt does come looking for him later?  He was very adept at money laundering, so it seems unlikely he was keeping his whole fortune in cash in the office safe. Saul is likely in Puerto Rico and living very well off his millions in laundered drug money, while running a bar or souvenir shop as cover.  If he isn't, he needs to find a much more capable Vacuum Cleaner Repairman.
 
2013-10-02 01:22:30 PM

Big Beef Burrito: MJMaloney187: I hope AMC and Gilligan put together a one time, one hour show called "Pinkman" where we get to see what Jesse did after he tore a*s out of that compound.

Probably got arrested almost immediately after he ran out of gas and wandered around on foot, looking like an escaped mental patient.


Yeah, I don't get all of the people who think there is a great mystery of what Jesse and Skyler will do next.

Jesse has no money and is a fugitive. He there are one of three outcomes for him: 1) Eventually gets arrested, goes to jail for a very longtime; 2) Somehow manages to strike a deal with the Feds, gets his jail time reduced; 3) Lives the rest of his life off the grid.

As for Skyler, she's going to be doing jail time. From looking at the family finances the Feds are going to see that Walt was laundering money through the car wash. Given that she ran the carwash and has a background as an accountant, nobody is going to buy the ignorance defense. And there is probably plenty of evidence to show her active role in the laundering. Revealing the location of Hank's grave will maybe get a year knocked off her sentence. Someone needs to go to jail, and with Walt dead, that weight falls to her.
 
2013-10-02 01:29:03 PM

thornhill: Big Beef Burrito: MJMaloney187: I hope AMC and Gilligan put together a one time, one hour show called "Pinkman" where we get to see what Jesse did after he tore a*s out of that compound.

Probably got arrested almost immediately after he ran out of gas and wandered around on foot, looking like an escaped mental patient.

Yeah, I don't get all of the people who think there is a great mystery of what Jesse and Skyler will do next.

Jesse has no money and is a fugitive. He there are one of three outcomes for him: 1) Eventually gets arrested, goes to jail for a very longtime; 2) Somehow manages to strike a deal with the Feds, gets his jail time reduced; 3) Lives the rest of his life off the grid.

As for Skyler, she's going to be doing jail time. From looking at the family finances the Feds are going to see that Walt was laundering money through the car wash. Given that she ran the carwash and has a background as an accountant, nobody is going to buy the ignorance defense. And there is probably plenty of evidence to show her active role in the laundering. Revealing the location of Hank's grave will maybe get a year knocked off her sentence. Someone needs to go to jail, and with Walt dead, that weight falls to her.


Yeah, but what's Walt's body count? It's perfectly plausible that her life and the lives of her kids were in danger because Walt was a homicidal maniac. The fact that Hank is dead should shore up her argument that he probably would have killed them too if she crossed him. I call hung jury.

Option 3 is the only option for Jesse.
 
2013-10-02 01:29:41 PM

thornhill: As for Skyler, she's going to be doing jail time. From looking at the family finances the Feds are going to see that Walt was laundering money through the car wash. Given that she ran the carwash and has a background as an accountant, nobody is going to buy the ignorance defense. And there is probably plenty of evidence to show her active role in the laundering. Revealing the location of Hank's grave will maybe get a year knocked off her sentence. Someone needs to go to jail, and with Walt dead, that weight falls to her.


I can see Skylar getting off, and not even using an ignorance defense. I mean she can use the location of Hank and Gomie's bodies as a bargaining chip. Throw in some sort of character testimony from her sister (the widow of a fallen officer) about how it wasn't her fault. Add in the fact that even a half decent lawyer could spin a "she feared for her life and her kids so she went along with her violent husband" thing. Add in the fact that kingpin Heisenberg is dead, as are the Nazi's who killed Hank and the whole blue meth operation is shut down. Based on all of that I could see them cutting a deal where she gets charged but doesn't serve any jail time and the feds get to keep the car wash (and maybe her house) to save the expense of going to trial and any bad publicity it might lead to.
 
2013-10-02 01:32:50 PM

mafiageek1980: IdBeCrazyIf: It ended exactly the way it needed too, a damn near perfect run for a show

^this. I think the article kinda says, in a way, "hey, if you didn't like the ending we gave you, it could have been a HELL of a lot worse", lol!


On the final Talking Bad, Gilligan said that he and the writers ran through every possible permutation of an ending for the show, and the one they went with was the one they thought was the best.

Personally, I hope they shot at least one of the completely insane ones, partially to throw people off the trail but mainly just so we could see it.
 
2013-10-02 01:39:26 PM
I'm glad it didn't just suddenly cut to black like the ending of The Sopra
 
2013-10-02 01:49:34 PM

mechgreg: thornhill: As for Skyler, she's going to be doing jail time. From looking at the family finances the Feds are going to see that Walt was laundering money through the car wash. Given that she ran the carwash and has a background as an accountant, nobody is going to buy the ignorance defense. And there is probably plenty of evidence to show her active role in the laundering. Revealing the location of Hank's grave will maybe get a year knocked off her sentence. Someone needs to go to jail, and with Walt dead, that weight falls to her.

I can see Skylar getting off, and not even using an ignorance defense. I mean she can use the location of Hank and Gomie's bodies as a bargaining chip. Throw in some sort of character testimony from her sister (the widow of a fallen officer) about how it wasn't her fault. Add in the fact that even a half decent lawyer could spin a "she feared for her life and her kids so she went along with her violent husband" thing. Add in the fact that kingpin Heisenberg is dead, as are the Nazi's who killed Hank and the whole blue meth operation is shut down. Based on all of that I could see them cutting a deal where she gets charged but doesn't serve any jail time and the feds get to keep the car wash (and maybe her house) to save the expense of going to trial and any bad publicity it might lead to.


The problem with that defense is that her brother-in-law is in the DEA -- she clearly had someone to turn to for help and protection if she feared her husband. Also, what evidence can she offer up for this defense except hearsay? There's no evidence of abuse, no police reports. Further, the Feds are eventually going to talk to Ted Beneke. He has his own legal problems which the Feds could use to pressure him to testify against Skyler.
 
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