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2013-10-01 11:49:22 PM
whoa.

I'm not a tabletop gamer or anything, but .... whoa.
 
2013-10-01 11:52:06 PM
I backed this last time and its left me wondering why Reaper hates my wallet so much. *whimper* I will probably spend another stupid amount of money on this. The next reward is baby dragons. BABY DRAGONS!!!!! How can I say no to that!?!
 
2013-10-02 12:06:12 AM
So, how does this work?  You pay $100, and you get the starter set... plus everything listed in the massive pic, as the total amount sold goes up?  Or do you have to keep buying each new "level" or "bonus"?
 
2013-10-02 12:13:40 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: So, how does this work?  You pay $100, and you get the starter set... plus everything listed in the massive pic, as the total amount sold goes up?  Or do you have to keep buying each new "level" or "bonus"?


Based on the last one, your $100 set will grow as the total increases -- you also have the option of picking up certain pieces for an extra donation (like the $15 kraken).
 
2013-10-02 12:31:55 AM
Is this like an NFL draft pick trade deal? You give up your chance at losing your virginity, in exchange for some toys that potentially are worth more to you in the short term?
 
2013-10-02 12:32:23 AM
If the initial kickstarter was so successful why do they need another?
 
2013-10-02 12:36:09 AM
Looks like they're all plastic models.  Back in my day the models were all lead and we liked it.  We LOVED it.  chewing on the lead models all day.  It tasted sweet like a basilisk's tears.
 
2013-10-02 12:37:50 AM
[ogre.jpg]

/also, [ogre.jpg]
 
2013-10-02 12:38:09 AM

mrlewish: If the initial kickstarter was so successful why do they need another?


My guess is that they haven't sold nearly as much since.  And since the first did so well, why not see if it will do well again?  So far it seems to have been a safe bet for them.  This is probably not the last one we'll ever see.
 
2013-10-02 12:45:56 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: So, how does this work?  You pay $100, and you get the starter set... plus everything listed in the massive pic, as the total amount sold goes up?  Or do you have to keep buying each new "level" or "bonus"?


You could also pledge at the $1 level and then just pick up a few of the paid bonuses if that was what you were interested in. So lets say you only want a dragon statue, you do the $1 level then add $12 to get a dragon. Like Donnchadha said, the $100 level gets you everything in the purple picture, which will continue to expand as they hit more goals. You still have to pay extra if you want any of the orange pictures.
 
2013-10-02 12:46:40 AM
i1160.photobucket.com

Why couldn't we get a video game out of this?  It just seems like such a niche to be so popular on Kickstarter.
 
2013-10-02 12:51:14 AM
Gah, I've barely painted a third of the last giant box of these things. What are the odds my husband won't find out about this?

I'd better pick up more paint.
 
2013-10-02 12:54:30 AM

burning_bridge: My guess is that they haven't sold nearly as much since.


They been concentrating on fulfilling the orders from the previous Kickstarter and they just finished last week.
Aside for a very limited selection, the models from that Kickstarter have only been available to order for about a month.
 
2013-10-02 12:56:49 AM
Not enough pewter for me.
 
2013-10-02 01:20:18 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Not enough pewter for me.


Halfling in full plate FTW!
 
2013-10-02 01:34:59 AM
At least this time they were honest about screwing the brick and mortar retailers who got them on the map in the first place and just cut us out of the loop altogether, instead of the anemic offering we were given before.
 
2013-10-02 01:37:29 AM
I understand nothing in that link and little to nothing in this thread.

Am I too old or too young to get what's happening?
 
2013-10-02 01:40:41 AM

blue_2501: Why couldn't we get a video game out of this? It just seems like such a niche to be so popular on Kickstarter.


Someone, likely Fox, owns the rights to make a video game based on the franchise.  Though I suppose you could include buying the rights in the amount of money you'd want to hit, but who knows what the price tag is?  Oh, and there's this.
 
2013-10-02 01:50:25 AM

Decados: At least this time they were honest about screwing the brick and mortar retailers who got them on the map in the first place and just cut us out of the loop altogether, instead of the anemic offering we were given before.


Its a sad fact that manufacturing businesses often can't make it just selling through brick and mortar stores anymore because so many retail outlets shuttered their doors in the last 6 years. However the whole industry will get a big shake up when the cheap 3D printers become available in Jan 2014.

How long do you think it will take for crowdsourced figurine design to completely saturate the market? A year? 6 months? If your brick and mortar store makes a substantial amount of income on figurines you might want to think about how you can stay ahead of that trend.
 
2013-10-02 01:57:28 AM
Diammmm quickdrawI never even thought of using a 3D printer for minis.
 
2013-10-02 02:04:39 AM

Toriko: Diammmm quickdrawI never even thought of using a 3D printer for minis.


please tell me you are kidding?
/I don't even play these games and saw this a mile away.
 
2013-10-02 02:38:00 AM

quickdraw: However the whole industry will get a big shake up when the cheap 3D printers become available in Jan 2014.


Do you actually have a printer in mind? I'd love to see details.
I'm pretty skeptical about consumer level 3D printers coming out in the immediate future that will be able to print with that level of detail. But I'd love to be wrong, and I'm positive it will happen eventually.
 
2013-10-02 02:39:48 AM

Krieghund: quickdraw: However the whole industry will get a big shake up when the cheap 3D printers become available in Jan 2014.

Do you actually have a printer in mind? I'd love to see details.
I'm pretty skeptical about consumer level 3D printers coming out in the immediate future that will be able to print with that level of detail. But I'd love to be wrong, and I'm positive it will happen eventually.


http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/MakerBot-Replica to r-2-Desktop-3D-Printer/productID.282577600

Resolution to 100 microns.

Should be enough for these little plastic figurines.
 
2013-10-02 02:46:20 AM
Meanwhile, Postal 2 is at 6% of its goal just over halfway through its kickstarter.

It seems that good taste prevails all around!
 
2013-10-02 03:39:33 AM
I was thinking why I had never supported anything on Kickstarter...then I went to the site and it didn't take long to remind me.

It's like the worlds worst flea market.
 
2013-10-02 03:40:38 AM

OhioUGrad: I was thinking why I had never supported anything on Kickstarter...then I went to the site and it didn't take long to remind me.

It's like the worlds worst flea market.


What? You don't like getting "Deepest thanks" for ponying up $5?
 
2013-10-02 03:40:43 AM
Figurines are for people with poor imaginations.  REAL tabletop gamers grab whatever's handy and use it as needed.  A jar of beef bouillon = horde of gelatinous cubes.  Wine cork = one Ent.  Beer bottle caps = 1ea blood bat.
 
2013-10-02 04:45:11 AM

tillerman35: Figurines are for people with poor imaginations.  REAL tabletop gamers grab whatever's handy and use it as needed.  A jar of beef bouillon = horde of gelatinous cubes.  Wine cork = one Ent.  Beer bottle caps = 1ea blood bat.


Reminds me of the original character-based Hack & Rogue games.

Based on the friend I have who has thousands of these figures, they don't actually play with them much. The fun seems to be in collecting and painting them.
 
2013-10-02 04:49:48 AM
Goodgod I'm glad I stopped table top gaming!  My checking account would weep bitter tears.
 
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2013-10-02 05:04:10 AM
Ugh just looking at those things makes me feel compelled to drop copious amounts of money on them.
 
2013-10-02 05:42:44 AM

Torqueknot: Goodgod I'm glad I stopped table top gaming!  My checking account would weep bitter tears.


Honestly, I can get enough minis for a campaign at around $100.00.

Just be glad you're not into Warhammer: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-Dwarfs-Army-7000-points-Pro-Painted - Magnetized-Movement-Trays-/221289691471
 
2013-10-02 06:00:10 AM

xanadian: whoa.

I'm not a tabletop gamer or anything, but .... whoa.


This.
 
2013-10-02 06:20:49 AM
I don't understand the mentality of people who continue to fund these things even after they're many times beyond their goal. I guess maybe for the perks but that baffles me as well. How do you go 30+ times over your funding goal and still have any perks left?
 
2013-10-02 07:05:53 AM

abhorrent1: I don't understand the mentality of people who continue to fund these things even after they're many times beyond their goal. I guess maybe for the perks but that baffles me as well. How do you go 30+ times over your funding goal and still have any perks left?


I think the logic is "If it's funded at $X and I think it's cool now, how much cooler will it be with $30X?"

/Help the Shantae: Half-Genie Hero kickstarter reach all it's stretch goals
//Please, I have so little in my life
 
2013-10-02 07:11:01 AM

OhioUGrad: I was thinking why I had never supported anything on Kickstarter...then I went to the site and it didn't take long to remind me.

It's like the worlds worst flea market.


Kickstarter can sometimes have some duds, but it is an invaluable source for funding products that may otherwise never have a chance to get the funding it needs to see the light of day.

/developer of a video game that was kickstarted and greenlit on Steam, so getting a kick etc
 
2013-10-02 07:38:20 AM

Drubell: OhioUGrad: I was thinking why I had never supported anything on Kickstarter...then I went to the site and it didn't take long to remind me.

It's like the worlds worst flea market.

Kickstarter can sometimes have some duds, but it is an invaluable source for funding products that may otherwise never have a chance to get the funding it needs to see the light of day.

/developer of a video game that was kickstarted and greenlit on Steam, so getting a kick etc


Sometimes? I looked through about 10-15 pages of stuff, didn't see one valuable item in the lot. I'm thinking the it can sometimes be beneficial for people who make valuable products. A lot of it seemed like lazy people who just want everything to be online or don't want to personally fund things (shows some real passion when you cannot fund your own CD or book).  I'm guessing it's useful for about 1% of the stuff on there.

/congrats on your funding
 
2013-10-02 08:05:29 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Krieghund: quickdraw: However the whole industry will get a big shake up when the cheap 3D printers become available in Jan 2014.

Do you actually have a printer in mind? I'd love to see details.
I'm pretty skeptical about consumer level 3D printers coming out in the immediate future that will be able to print with that level of detail. But I'd love to be wrong, and I'm positive it will happen eventually.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/MakerBot-Replica to r-2-Desktop-3D-Printer/productID.282577600

Resolution to 100 microns.

Should be enough for these little plastic figurines.


The problem with little home-based hobby desktop 3D printers is that their "ease of use as advertised" leaves a lot to be desired.  http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/home-3d-printers-take-us-on-a- m addening-journey-into-another-dimension/

Maybe 10 years down the road, they'll be awesome.  But for right now, you are probably better off sending your file for "3 handed drawves riding a dragon" out to some company who has a nice industrial-strength 3-D printer.
 
2013-10-02 08:07:13 AM

Beowoolfie: tillerman35: Figurines are for people with poor imaginations.  REAL tabletop gamers grab whatever's handy and use it as needed.  A jar of beef bouillon = horde of gelatinous cubes.  Wine cork = one Ent.  Beer bottle caps = 1ea blood bat.

Reminds me of the original character-based Hack & Rogue games.

Based on the friend I have who has thousands of these figures, they don't actually play with them much. The fun seems to be in collecting and painting them.


Hell yeah. The way we played, if you were willing to eat that bouillon cube, then you gained immunity to any further gelatinous cube attacks.

/Useful if Melgrim runs out of fire spells.
 
2013-10-02 09:04:37 AM

quickdraw: How long do you think it will take for crowdsourced figurine design to completely saturate the market? A year? 6 months? If your brick and mortar store makes a substantial amount of income on figurines you might want to think about how you can stay ahead of that trend.


There's always going to be a market for that stuff.  The fact of the matter is that most free/GPL/crowdsourced art absolutely sucks and when you add the design constraints of your average 3D printer, it's only going to get worse.  The only thing that widespread 3d printing will do is open a lot of these hobbies to people that previously avoided them because they were put off by the cost.
 
2013-10-02 09:19:57 AM
Never really cared much for tabletop figurines. I was pretty 'meh'....until I saw the Kraken. That thing is badass!
 
2013-10-02 10:22:16 AM

xanadian: whoa.

I'm not a tabletop gamer or anything, but .... whoa.


This. I've spent $100 on far less cool things. Strongly pondering getting in on this, though by the time I do so, I'd probably be in wave 25 shipping....Still, though....
 
2013-10-02 11:23:37 AM
Now I just need to kick start a project to 3d print me some friends to play with.
 
2013-10-02 12:21:14 PM
It's almost as though they had people passing around their link for them...
 
2013-10-02 12:30:02 PM

asquian: xanadian: whoa.

I'm not a tabletop gamer or anything, but .... whoa.

This. I've spent $100 on far less cool things. Strongly pondering getting in on this, though by the time I do so, I'd probably be in wave 25 shipping....Still, though....


We dropped $400 (by selling some of our extra Dwarven Forge sets) on this last year. We were literally in the last shipping wave because we had so many minis. And yes, we will definitely be buying into this Kickstarter as well, but probably not $400 worth.
 
2013-10-02 02:58:36 PM
Also, not a tabletop/warhammer whatever the hell they're used for gamer but . I kind of want the mouslings and rats for chess pieces. I could paint the white squares yellow and make a cheese board!
 
2013-10-02 04:06:15 PM
Okay... I never got the minis obsession, and I was a gamer. I had some lead minis and some plastic minis. I had Bloodbowl (the original set). I played a little Warhammer... Not much, but I get the gist of it.

And I still never got the minis obsession. They're really no different than the cheap plastic army men and animals/dinosaurs I played with as a kid... And I got over that. I don't understand the need for all your game tokens to look exactly like the creature/person they're representing. At some point, you're no longer gaming and you're playing with toys. You're playing Army Men like you did when you were 9 years old.

Except you're spending hundreds of dollars more than you did then.

So no... I don't get this AT ALL,  but I don't begrudge gamers their weird obsession with figurines. It's at least better than most toy collectors who need to buy every new action figure, yet leave it in the package, on the card, in mint condition. At least gamers play with the toys they buy.
 
2013-10-02 07:26:53 PM

ZeroCorpse: Okay... I never got the minis obsession, and I was a gamer. I had some lead minis and some plastic minis. I had Bloodbowl (the original set). I played a little Warhammer... Not much, but I get the gist of it.

And I still never got the minis obsession. They're really no different than the cheap plastic army men and animals/dinosaurs I played with as a kid... And I got over that. I don't understand the need for all your game tokens to look exactly like the creature/person they're representing. At some point, you're no longer gaming and you're playing with toys. You're playing Army Men like you did when you were 9 years old.

Except you're spending hundreds of dollars more than you did then.

So no... I don't get this AT ALL,  but I don't begrudge gamers their weird obsession with figurines. It's at least better than most toy collectors who need to buy every new action figure, yet leave it in the package, on the card, in mint condition. At least gamers play with the toys they buy.

For one, it's a very creative hobby because you paint the minis. For two, they're useful in your campaign. There's also something really cool about having a mini that's just used for your PC. I have one super-awesome knight figurine painted by a friend of mine that's my knight in Pendragon, the best RPG campaign I ever played in. Although it's been 10 years since we played it, that mini has a lot of sentimental value for me because I love that character, and campaign, and it was painted by one of my oldest (meaning, known the longest, not aged) friends.

This is Fergus. The runes on the banner were drawn free-hand by my friend.

i.imgur.com

The map the mini is on is for my zombie apocalypse Pathfinder game. The cobblestone tile the ipad cord is resting on is a large 24x36" board that I use to build encounters for the zombie game, since it takes place in a city and I need to be able to set up a variety of locations. The clear graph paper is actually graph paper I created in InDesign and printed out in poster form on transparent sheets and then taped together using scrapbooking photo adhesive.

 
2013-10-02 08:16:33 PM
Ah yes Reaver. I might drop a dollar to support them but my loyalties lie with Warmachine/Hordes./yes I did donate to the Warmachine Tactics kickstarter.
 
2013-10-02 10:32:44 PM

Mike Chewbacca: he clear graph paper is actually graph paper I created in InDesign and printed out in poster form on transparent sheets and then taped together using scrapbooking photo adhesive.


Nice idea! We use laminated graph paper and then dry erase markers to roughly indicate buildings, but my husband always designs these fantastic hand-drawn maps for the world. Clear graph paper over the top would be great!
 
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