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2013-10-02 07:00:45 AM
Not one new organization has mentioned that, thanks to this shutdown, we servicemembers overseas have to endure sports channel blackouts on AFN. This is an outrage.
 
2013-10-02 07:07:21 AM
And not one elected official will be inconvenienced in the slightest.

I think that this 'shutdown' will be the one that causes people to realize how inconsequential many elective federal services are.

F8ck Mitch, John, Harry, Nancy and Barry anyway. They've all done nothing for the past five years (Nancy and Harry go back longer) but create the most partisan federal government in forever.
 
2013-10-02 07:07:43 AM
My job is exempt, but it's fun working but not knowing if we'll actually get paid on time cuz, it's not like federal employees have bills and families to feed, house, and clothe.
 
2013-10-02 07:11:16 AM

Major Ethanolic: Not one new organization has mentioned that, thanks to this shutdown, we servicemembers overseas have to endure sports channel blackouts on AFN. This is an outrage.


Actually, I have seen that mentioned on NBC, CNN, and BBC.

Seems to be a slight push in the American media to claim that the shutdown isn't that unusual, why, it's almost routine!  That way they don't have to talk about the REASON for the shutdown.
 
2013-10-02 07:13:57 AM
Get yourself a Mac and don't worry about it.
 
WGJ
2013-10-02 07:23:44 AM
From what I've gathered in all of this is the republicans caused the shutdown, but the democrats are enjoying it more.
 
2013-10-02 07:28:45 AM

WGJ: From what I've gathered in all of this is the republicans caused the shutdown, but the democrats are enjoying it more.


It's like watching a little kid try to hold his breath until he DIES.
 
2013-10-02 07:34:41 AM
It's all part of the Shock Indoctrination project..disaster capitalism at it's highest point. ref. Naomi Klein
 
2013-10-02 07:36:42 AM
UsikFark:

It's like watching a little kid try to hold his breath until he DIES.

.... and when that kid dies, his parents blame the kid that is not holding its breath.

A better analogy:

Dems: "Sandwiches for everyone!"
GOP: "No, no sandwiches for everyone!"
Dems: "Sandwiches for Everyone!"
US Prez: "I agree with Dems"
SCOTUS: "I agree with US Prez and Dems"
GOP: "I'm holding my breath until you all agree with me!"
*GOP dies from suffocation*
GOP's Parents: "Why did my poor little helpless GOP  have to die?? Why were you all so cruel to GOP??"
 
2013-10-02 07:36:53 AM
It looks like most of them are correlated with social conservatives and faux budget hawks b***hing about the social safety net.
 
2013-10-02 07:37:29 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Major Ethanolic: Not one new organization has mentioned that, thanks to this shutdown, we servicemembers overseas have to endure sports channel blackouts on AFN. This is an outrage.

Actually, I have seen that mentioned on NBC, CNN, and BBC.

Seems to be a slight push in the American media to claim that the shutdown isn't that unusual, why, it's almost routine!  That way they don't have to talk about the REASON for the shutdown.


It started with NRO and the Moonie Times, I believe - they were pushing that silly narrative that this happens way more often with a Democratic majority in Congress.


/Sorry, but the partisanship that has poisoned the well has one source and one source only - the conservative echo chamber.  Limbaugh's ilk have been trying to preach a message of ideological purity above actual governance since the late 1980s.
 
2013-10-02 07:44:35 AM
So...... do I pro-rate my taxes now?
 
2013-10-02 07:44:43 AM
Maybe we should just wipe the drive and re-install the operating system clean.
 
2013-10-02 07:48:48 AM
Anybody here got a seaworthy raft that can fit a small family for sale? No, well how about just a Ukrainian bus pass.
 
2013-10-02 07:49:12 AM

dittybopper: Maybe we should just wipe the drive and re-install the operating system clean.


Upgrade the hardware while we're at it.
 
2013-10-02 07:52:16 AM

dittybopper: Maybe we should just wipe the drive and re-install the operating system clean.


If only it worked that way.

/Why do we keep electing stubborn anti-progress a holes?
//Right, congress is the opposite of progress.
 
2013-10-02 07:58:04 AM
A novel way to fix things in DC.

Every election vote for the candidate that spends the least amount of money trying to get elected.

Rinse and repeat as needed to get a government that WORKS.
 
2013-10-02 07:59:02 AM

EvilVanMan: dittybopper: Maybe we should just wipe the drive and re-install the operating system clean.

If only it worked that way.

/Why do we keep electing stubborn anti-progress a holes?
//Right, congress is the opposite of progress.


Because of their stance on abortion. Nothing indicates ability to budget like a sky god litmus test.
 
2013-10-02 08:00:37 AM

RDixon: A novel way to fix things in DC.

Every election vote for the candidate that spends the least amount of money trying to get elected.

Rinse and repeat as needed to get a government that WORKS.


I didn't even file. Vote for me.
 
2013-10-02 08:02:10 AM

UsikFark: RDixon: A novel way to fix things in DC.

Every election vote for the candidate that spends the least amount of money trying to get elected.

Rinse and repeat as needed to get a government that WORKS.

I didn't even file. Vote for me.


You have to file to be a candidate.
 
2013-10-02 08:04:06 AM

EvilVanMan: dittybopper: Maybe we should just wipe the drive and re-install the operating system clean.

If only it worked that way.

/Why do we keep electing stubborn anti-progress a holes?
//Right, congress is the opposite of progress.


First, I'm going to challenge an assumption of yours:  Sometimes progress isn't.  I think we can all come up with examples of that, no matter where you stand on the ideological spectrum.

Also, we've been electing stubborn a-holes since the founding of the Republic, and probably even before then.  That's actually a feature, not a bug.  I *WANT* stubborn a-holes in there to prevent some things from being passed into law, and part of the cost of that is that sometimes, those stubborn a-holes will prevent things that I want.   The flip side of that, though, is that a Congress that is amenable to compromise on everything is one that is very likely to pass things that you find completely abhorrent.
 
2013-10-02 08:06:31 AM
Why don't we all just chill the fark out and let our political leaders do what they're supposed to do.

Truth be told, I can see how some can enjoy all this handwringing and fingerpointing, but in the end it's just sport for us.
 
2013-10-02 08:16:14 AM

upndn: So...... do I pro-rate my taxes now?


No. The Taxed Enough Already party said nothing about paying no tax during their shutdown, so please continue to line their pockets, citizen.
 
2013-10-02 08:17:59 AM
My suggestion for a compromise.

1. The tax on medical devices goes away (even many Democrats say this is a bad idea) in exchange Congress and their lackeys and assorted boot lickers get to keep their Obamacare exemptions subject to renewal each fiscal year


2. A six month delay in the individual mandate and in exchange Congress otherwise fully funds Obamacare

3. Debt Ceiling negotiations will not be tied to Obamacare in exchange Congress agrees to send a balance budget amendment and line item veto amendment to the states for ratification-or non-ratification (I would like to throw a term limits Amendment in there but I figure that would be pushing)

Other possible give and take items

Food Stamp funding
Obamacare birth control/abortion exemptions for religious reasons

/Just call me Solomon
 
2013-10-02 08:18:32 AM

IamKaiserSoze!!!: And not one elected official will be inconvenienced in the slightest.

I think that this 'shutdown' will be the one that causes people to realize how inconsequential many elective federal services are.

F8ck Mitch, John, Harry, Nancy and Barry anyway. They've all done nothing for the past five years (Nancy and Harry go back longer) but create the most partisan federal government in forever.


Both sides are bad.  The current partisanship is equally the fault of the Dems and the GOP.  I think the only way to solve this problem is to boot out all the bums and vote in new Republicans to solve it.
 
2013-10-02 08:19:45 AM

WGJ: From what I've gathered in all of this is the republicans caused the shutdown, but the democrats are enjoying it more.


I am still trying to understand this logic.  Republican controlled House passed a resolution.  Democrat controlled Senate says, "No."

How is this Republican caused?  Doesn't this simply say that both parties suck?
 
2013-10-02 08:21:36 AM

dittybopper: Maybe we should just wipe the drive and re-install the operating system clean.


It is a hardware issue not a software issue.
 
2013-10-02 08:21:47 AM

dittybopper: EvilVanMan: dittybopper: Maybe we should just wipe the drive and re-install the operating system clean.

If only it worked that way.

/Why do we keep electing stubborn anti-progress a holes?
//Right, congress is the opposite of progress.

First, I'm going to challenge an assumption of yours:  Sometimes progress isn't.  I think we can all come up with examples of that, no matter where you stand on the ideological spectrum.

Also, we've been electing stubborn a-holes since the founding of the Republic, and probably even before then.  That's actually a feature, not a bug.  I *WANT* stubborn a-holes in there to prevent some things from being passed into law, and part of the cost of that is that sometimes, those stubborn a-holes will prevent things that I want.   The flip side of that, though, is that a Congress that is amenable to compromise on everything is one that is very likely to pass things that you find completely abhorrent.


Indeed.

It seems it's early enough for me to not know better than to stay out of polotics. My half-baked comment about the seeming pointlessness (at least that's what I intended, and I really need more coffee) of re-electing the same people time and time again whilst constantly biatching that congress is the problem with the country fell quite short.

I'll go back to biatching about work and football like the average american.

/Should've stayed in bed
 
2013-10-02 08:22:21 AM

hasty ambush: My suggestion for a compromise.


I've got one.

Have the House send a clean bill to the Senate, with a couple of non-PPACA related riders.  One would repeal the Hughes Amendment.  The other would remove federal law enforcement dollars provided to states who continue to have either of the following:
1. Magazine capacity restrictions less than 20 rounds, or
2. That will not issue CCW licenses on a "Shall Issue" basis.

Then we'd see just how important the Affordable Care Act is.
 
2013-10-02 08:22:54 AM

hasty ambush: A six month delay


Why?

If it's such a terrible, terrible thing, what good does delaying it do?

Then:

hasty ambush: 3. Debt Ceiling negotiations will not be tied to Obamacare in exchange Congress agrees to send a balance budget amendment and line item veto amendment to the states for ratification-or non-ratification (I would like to throw a term limits Amendment in there but I figure that would be pushing)


Sure, that makes sense--Let's agree not to cause an artificial crisis if you just give us all of these holy grails we've been salivating over for for years but can't get through a normal legislative process.   That's not at all like saying you won't take a hostage if the targets just hand you over a lot of money you can't make yourself on the open market.  Not at all.
 
2013-10-02 08:25:03 AM
EvilVanMan: Indeed.

It seems it's early enough for me to not know better than to stay out of polotics. My half-baked comment about the seeming pointlessness (at least that's what I intended, and I really need more coffee) of re-electing the same people time and time again whilst constantly biatching that congress is the problem with the country fell quite short.

I'll go back to biatching about work and football like the average american.

/Should've stayed in bed



No, no, no!  You're an integral part of the process!  The female dogging about the process is part of the process itself.
 
2013-10-02 08:26:11 AM

Bruce Campbell: I am still trying to understand this logic. Republican controlled House passed a resolution. Democrat controlled Senate says, "No."

How is this Republican caused? Doesn't this simply say that both parties suck?


There's something called "context" and "content" you might want to investigate.
 
2013-10-02 08:26:38 AM
My guess is that the world wont end.

If it does, then at least the Mayan calendar was only a little out.
 
2013-10-02 08:26:41 AM
Would you like to restart in safe mode, with no guns and universal free healthcare (recommended)
 
2013-10-02 08:26:53 AM

hasty ambush: My suggestion for a compromise.

1. The tax on medical devices goes away (even many Democrats say this is a bad idea) in exchange Congress and their lackeys and assorted boot lickers get to keep their Obamacare exemptions subject to renewal each fiscal year


2. A six month delay in the individual mandate and in exchange Congress otherwise fully funds Obamacare

3. Debt Ceiling negotiations will not be tied to Obamacare in exchange Congress agrees to send a balance budget amendment and line item veto amendment to the states for ratification-or non-ratification (I would like to throw a term limits Amendment in there but I figure that would be pushing)

Other possible give and take items

Food Stamp funding
Obamacare birth control/abortion exemptions for religious reasons

/Just call me Solomon


There is no give and take. These would only be concessions. The tea party has nothing to offer not only due to the fact that they don't have a single constructive idea between them all, but also because they are the minority party pretending to be a majority. The citizens of this country voted resoundingly against what they had to offer, and it is only due to their asshole friend Gerry Mander back in 2010 that they hold a house majority.
 
2013-10-02 08:27:51 AM

IamKaiserSoze!!!: And not one elected official will be inconvenienced in the slightest.

I think that this 'shutdown' will be the one that causes people to realize how inconsequential many elective federal services are.

F8ck Mitch, John, Harry, Nancy and Barry anyway. They've all done nothing for the past five years (Nancy and Harry go back longer) but create the most partisan federal government in forever.


Yeah, you're half right. The problem is not that the federal government is partisan. The problem is that one partisan side thinks it's OK to wreck the economy in order to refight battles they lost at the ballot box. The 2008-09 Congress was one of the most productive in history in terms of amount and significance of legislation passed. The Republican Congresses of 2010 and 2012 have passed virtually NOTHING.
 
2013-10-02 08:36:08 AM

espiaboricua: UsikFark:

It's like watching a little kid try to hold his breath until he DIES.

.... and when that kid dies, his parents blame the kid that is not holding its breath.

A better analogy:

Dems: "Sandwiches for everyone!"
GOP: "No, no sandwiches for everyone!"
Dems: "Sandwiches for Everyone!"
US Prez: "I agree with Dems"
SCOTUS: "I agree with US Prez and Dems"
GOP: "I'm holding my breath until you all agree with me!"
*GOP dies from suffocation*
GOP's Parents: "Why did my poor little helpless GOP  have to die?? Why were you all so cruel to GOP??"

GOP passes out, falls over striking frontal lobe, goes into a short coma.  Comes to, but with more brain damage.
GOP: "Hey, I've had a vision from gawd when I was out and I've got an even better idea now..."
 
2013-10-02 08:38:40 AM

Skleenar: There's something called "context" and "content" you might want to investigate.


Not really.  Seems pretty straightforward to me.  If one party can resolve to pass an act via parliamentary procedure, one party should be equally able to void its enforcement via parliamentary procedure.

This is a pissing match going back to the original cloture vote in 2010 on an at the time yet-to-be formed bill.  This confirms to me that, in fact, both parties suck.
 
2013-10-02 08:45:41 AM

Bruce Campbell: Not really. Seems pretty straightforward to me. If one party can resolve to pass an act via parliamentary procedure, one party should be equally able to void its enforcement via parliamentary procedure.


You're forgetting the fact that "one" party has tried 40 times to void another party's act via parliamentary procedure and failed, and now has decided that what they really need to get their way is to drag the US economy over a cliff to get the leverage they need to attempt yet again to void it.

And add to the mixture that this petulant "party" isn't really a party at all, but just a radical faction within one of the actual parties.

Sure, your way of describing it seems really very logical and even handed.  It just leaves out the important details.
 
2013-10-02 08:46:45 AM

Bazzlex001: hasty ambush: My suggestion for a compromise.

1. The tax on medical devices goes away (even many Democrats say this is a bad idea) in exchange Congress and their lackeys and assorted boot lickers get to keep their Obamacare exemptions subject to renewal each fiscal year


2. A six month delay in the individual mandate and in exchange Congress otherwise fully funds Obamacare

3. Debt Ceiling negotiations will not be tied to Obamacare in exchange Congress agrees to send a balance budget amendment and line item veto amendment to the states for ratification-or non-ratification (I would like to throw a term limits Amendment in there but I figure that would be pushing)

Other possible give and take items

Food Stamp funding
Obamacare birth control/abortion exemptions for religious reasons

/Just call me Solomon

There is no give and take. These would only be concessions. The tea party has nothing to offer not only due to the fact that they don't have a single constructive idea between them all, but also because they are the minority party pretending to be a majority. The citizens of this country voted resoundingly against what they had to offer, and it is only due to their asshole friend Gerry Mander back in 2010 that they hold a house majority.


So compromise only goes one way? We only have one party in the country and anyone else is a trouble maker? Seriously? Maybe I disagree with the president on this and am happy to have people in Congress to represent my views. My husband even works for the Federal government and we support the shut down. Yes, there are people different from you. This new bill is a mess and I hated the idea when Republicans came up with it in the first place. Why not just focus on providing medical care in extreme cases and for immunizations,etc and leave the rest to the public to decide what to do. Republicans aren't Libertarians and do believe in some government help. That is why they are compromise more than come up with new ideas. Libertarians on the other hand want to strip the government. The older I get the more Libertarian I become.

To be honest, I am sick of the partisan crap on both sides. Michelle Bachman is really getting on my nerves. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi need to retire!
 
2013-10-02 08:49:21 AM
Crap! That was the worst grammar! I will never post again on three hours sleep! Have to take the baby to the doctor because he was wheezing all night. Seriously though, I am sick of the ignorant comments!
 
2013-10-02 08:49:37 AM
So our favorite things to shut down the government over are: Abortion, defense spending, Israel, pay, and fundraisers.

Makes PERFECT sense.
 
2013-10-02 08:53:26 AM

ninotchka: So compromise only goes one way?


That's a little rich considering you are commenting to the person responding to the comment that said the "wise" compromise out of this situation was to give the GOP everything they wanted, and in return they promise, for realsies this time, to not try to destroy full faith and credit of the US government.
 
2013-10-02 08:55:11 AM
If you look at this list there seems to be a theme...the President, House and Senate all negotiating and coming up with a compromise.  A little give and take from all sides.  That's what makes this time different.  The House Republicans are not negotiating.  They are just sitting there like a spoiled little sh*t holding their breath and stomping their feet like a two year old wanting a toy from the dollar store.
 
2013-10-02 08:58:22 AM

ninotchka: Why not just focus on providing medical care in extreme cases and for immunizations,etc and leave the rest to the public to decide what to do


Extreme cases?  So basically take the most expensive and high-risk folks and have the government take care of them and let the private sector reap the profits of less risky policy holders?

I'm willing to bet that if there was a national referendum on what to do with respect to health care, we'd have a single payer system.
 
2013-10-02 08:59:56 AM

Skleenar: ninotchka: So compromise only goes one way?

That's a little rich considering you are commenting to the person responding to the comment that said the "wise" compromise out of this situation was to give the GOP everything they wanted, and in return they promise, for realsies this time, to not try to destroy full faith and credit of the US government.


The GOP already got their compromise--sequester cuts made permanent.  Why are people on the right so quick to forget this?
 
2013-10-02 09:03:13 AM

Skleenar: Sure, your way of describing it seems really very logical and even handed.


You are correct.  As even handed as a cloture vote on a trillion dollar plus law.
 
2013-10-02 09:14:13 AM

Bruce Campbell: Skleenar: Sure, your way of describing it seems really very logical and even handed.

You are correct.  As even handed as a cloture vote on a trillion dollar plus law.


Perspective.
 
2013-10-02 09:15:01 AM
if the people you voted in as your representatives don't give a shiat, why should I?
but, ignore all this bullshiat and keep putting the same idiots in charge of your future.
you get exactly what you deserve
 
2013-10-02 09:18:40 AM
What happens if the government stays shut down? I mean seriously when I read those previous shut downs they were not over serious idealogical and dogmatic position splits that we have today. So, what happens if the government stays shut down for say six weeks? What happens if in addition no debt ceiling deal is reached? Then after six weeks the 2014 continuing resolution or budget can not be agreed upon?
 
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