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(Independent)   Qatar continues its charm offensive leading to the 2022 World Cup by failing to pay a French player two years' wages and trapping him in Qatar when he complains about it   (independent.co.uk) divider line 37
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2013-10-01 03:45:02 PM  
Shocked I am, etc etc.
 
2013-10-01 03:46:56 PM  
What if they had a World Cup and no one went?
 
2013-10-01 03:50:51 PM  
I'm pretty sure there's a french coach who's also stuck in Qatar, Stéphane Morello. I think 5 years.

From Grant Wahl:

Stéphane Morello, a French soccer coach who has been trapped in Qatar since 2009. He coached two Qatari clubs starting in 2007, and his sponsor was the Qatari Olympic Committee. He tells me when those club jobs ended, he was unable to get an exit visa and his guaranteed salary as part of his contract. He has been in limbo with his family ever since, and only in the next few weeks might he finally be able to leave Qatar now that French president François Hollande has gotten involved.
 
2013-10-01 03:58:25 PM  
You'd have to be out of your got-damned mind to go to Qatar to work.
 
2013-10-01 03:58:39 PM  
Qatar is one of a few countries I would absolutely refuse to go to for work. Some of my co-workers have gone and weren't too happy to have their passports revoked upon entering and not granted back until the project was done.
 
2013-10-01 04:11:12 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: You'd have to be out of your got-damned mind to go to Qatar to work.


Just imagine if Qatar had a sudden influx of millionaires coming there to work for about a month. The possibilities for bribes and human rights abuses are staggering!
 
2013-10-01 04:22:25 PM  

Stop going to Qatar. It's that simple.


They're known to do this on a regular, persistent, and malicious basis - the country's an "open prison" for foreigners, yet people still go there on promises of good pay. Qatar's a country of slavers. Stop volunteering to be slaves.
 
2013-10-01 04:24:16 PM  

gopher321: Shocked I am, etc etc.


So it was an electric Qatar then?
 
2013-10-01 04:33:17 PM  
Is any part of the middle east not completely screwed up right now?
 
2013-10-01 04:35:21 PM  

soopey: Qatar is one of a few countries I would absolutely refuse to go to for work. Some of my co-workers have gone and weren't too happy to have their passports revoked upon entering and not granted back until the project was done.


How is that practice even remotely kosher?
 
2013-10-01 04:39:25 PM  

van1ty: Is any part of the middle east not completely screwed up right now?


Kuwait.
 
2013-10-01 04:46:20 PM  
Hopefully, Raul can get out once his contract with Al Sadd is done.
 
2013-10-01 04:47:11 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: soopey: Qatar is one of a few countries I would absolutely refuse to go to for work. Some of my co-workers have gone and weren't too happy to have their passports revoked upon entering and not granted back until the project was done.

How is that practice even remotely kosher halal?


FTFY
 
2013-10-01 04:48:06 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: soopey: Qatar is one of a few countries I would absolutely refuse to go to for work. Some of my co-workers have gone and weren't too happy to have their passports revoked upon entering and not granted back until the project was done.

How is that practice even remotely kosher?


It's not and is supposed to be illegal.  It is condoned in practice by the government though.
 
2013-10-01 04:51:08 PM  

FrancoFile: JohnAnnArbor: soopey: Qatar is one of a few countries I would absolutely refuse to go to for work. Some of my co-workers have gone and weren't too happy to have their passports revoked upon entering and not granted back until the project was done.

How is that practice even remotely kosher halal?

FTFY


Revoked might be the wrong word. Effectively confiscated by the quasi-government company they were going to to help troubleshoot an issue.
 
2013-10-01 04:51:28 PM  
9 more years of fun and games until they host the World Cup!
 
2013-10-01 05:25:22 PM  
Total cluster fark  thats what this world cup will be.
 
2013-10-01 05:33:59 PM  
spacebison.com
 
2013-10-01 05:41:16 PM  
Welcome to Qatar.

Ha ha! You are now stuck in Qatar.
 
2013-10-01 05:52:00 PM  

van1ty: Is any part of the middle east not completely screwed up right now?



Hopefully the UAE is on that list.

/Might be in Dubai next year.
 
2013-10-01 05:56:04 PM  

The_Sponge: van1ty: Is any part of the middle east not completely screwed up right now?


Hopefully the UAE is on that list.

/Might be in Dubai next year.


They're pretty big on slave labor too.  And if you run afoul of the law AT ALL, including in a financial way, they'll just trap you like this guy.
 
2013-10-01 06:00:36 PM  

SpaceBison:


What's that supposed to be?
 
2013-10-01 06:02:55 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: SpaceBison:

What's that supposed to be?


Pearl in oyster.  Pearl harvesting used to be a deal in the Persian Gulf.
 
2013-10-01 06:22:14 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: The_Sponge: van1ty: Is any part of the middle east not completely screwed up right now?


Hopefully the UAE is on that list.

/Might be in Dubai next year.

They're pretty big on slave labor too.  And if you run afoul of the law AT ALL, including in a financial way, they'll just trap you like this guy.


Yeah, I might steer clear if it were me.
 
2013-10-01 06:23:43 PM  

soopey: FrancoFile: JohnAnnArbor: soopey: Qatar is one of a few countries I would absolutely refuse to go to for work. Some of my co-workers have gone and weren't too happy to have their passports revoked upon entering and not granted back until the project was done.

How is that practice even remotely kosher halal?

FTFY

Revoked might be the wrong word. Effectively confiscated by the quasi-government company they were going to to help troubleshoot an issue.


Would it be possible to go to your country's embassy, say you lost your passport, order another one, and get out of the country using that one?
 
2013-10-01 06:31:53 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: HaywoodJablonski: SpaceBison:

What's that supposed to be?

Pearl in oyster.  Pearl harvesting used to be a deal in the Persian Gulf.


Gotcha
 
2013-10-01 06:58:36 PM  
So Habs/Leafs isn't on TV in the states at all?
That sucks balls.
 
2013-10-01 07:55:10 PM  
Qatar is a civil-rights shiathole.  Sadly, the US tolerates this sort of stuff because we want bases in the Gulf region.  Also, what is to stop a French boat from parking in the Gulf and meeting a boat from Qatar carrying this guy?  This isn't occupied Europe that he wants to escape.
 
2013-10-01 07:56:42 PM  

soopey: So Habs/Leafs isn't on TV in the states at all?
That sucks balls.


http://www.atdee.net/66910/watch-toronto-vs-montreal-fr

C'est en Francais, mais c'est Habitents.
 
2013-10-01 09:00:06 PM  

State_College_Arsonist: Qatar is a civil-rights shiathole.  Sadly, the US tolerates this sort of stuff because we want bases in the Gulf region.  Also, what is to stop a French boat from parking in the Gulf and meeting a boat from Qatar carrying this guy?  This isn't occupied Europe that he wants to escape.


It's not that he can't leave.  It is that he wants to be paid for his service he gave his team for two years.

"Belounis, who played professionally in France, Switzerland and Malaysia, took legal action against El Jaish in February after 18 months during which the club, affiliated to the military, had failed to pay him under the terms of a five-year contract he signed in 2010. He has been told that under the kafala system of visa sponsorship, blamed for the inhuman treatment of Nepali workers, he will not be allowed to leave the country unless he drops the case."

At this point he should be praying that the deal isn't altered any further.
 
2013-10-01 09:36:18 PM  

Daedalus27: It's not that he can't leave. It is that he wants to be paid for his service he gave his team for two years.


-He shouldn't have to stay in the country for that.  If the club and it's ownership have interests in other countries, which is likely in this case, then he should be able to press his case from outside of Qatar.
 
2013-10-01 10:44:31 PM  

Gosling: JohnAnnArbor: The_Sponge: van1ty: Is any part of the middle east not completely screwed up right now?


Hopefully the UAE is on that list.

/Might be in Dubai next year.

They're pretty big on slave labor too.  And if you run afoul of the law AT ALL, including in a financial way, they'll just trap you like this guy.

Yeah, I might steer clear if it were me.


If you're going to work for a Qatari company, I'd worry about problems like this guy is having.  if your current employer has a regional office there, things are probably quite a bit better.  My company opened a regional office there because one of our major customers is opening a hospital there along with the medical school in Dubai, so it made more sense for us to have the people working on the project local, and then we have a foothold in the region.  Plus, the UAE was a better option than just about any other country in the Middle East.  While we've been in talks with the Saudi's about being the vendor for their health system, there has also been internal discussion of whether or not we should work with them because of how women are second class citizens in Saudi Arabia, considering our company was founded, and is still run by, a woman.
 
2013-10-01 11:13:36 PM  
I'd say we just send Sepp Blatter there a bit early so he can "oversee" the construction of the new facilities.
 
2013-10-02 02:01:26 AM  

van1ty: Is any part of the middle east not completely screwed up right now?


Not the Middle East but Morocco seems to be doing fine.

/since people keep acting like North Africa is the Middle East and Arab.
 
2013-10-02 01:17:24 PM  

TheJoe03: van1ty: Is any part of the middle east not completely screwed up right now?

Not the Middle East but Morocco seems to be doing fine.

/since people keep acting like North Africa is the Middle East and Arab.


Berber vs. Arab is more of a linguistic difference than an ethnological one.  Most people in Morocco self-identify as Arab.  Migrations from the Saudi Arabian peninsula into Morocco go back more than 1000 years.
 
2013-10-02 01:51:07 PM  

Nogrhi: gopher321: Shocked I am, etc etc.

So it was an electric Qatar then?


I thought that if you had an acoustic Qatar, it meant that you were a protest singer.
 
2013-10-02 10:56:22 PM  

FrancoFile: Most people in Morocco self-identify as Arab. Migrations from the Saudi Arabian peninsula into Morocco go back more than 1000 years.


So have migrations from Europe and other parts of Africa. Arab to me in strictly cultural and linguistic, much like the term Latino. Most NW Africans (that call themselves Arab) are Arabized Berbers, this isn't my opinion this is anthropological fact. So sure Berbers have that Arab history, but if that makes them Arab then wouldn't Arabs then be African since that's who first settled that region? Would Europeans be Asian since they originated there?

/Algerian American of Sephardic and Berber descent.
 
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