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(Politico)   GOP's new plan, in lieu of passing a CR, is to pass small, individual bills funding one program at a time, and they just won't pass one for Obamacare   (politico.com) divider line 73
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2013-10-01 01:55:13 PM
8 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-10-01 03:33:49 PM
6 votes:

In House GOP meeting, Gohmert pushed for military pay bill in conf. committee; Boehner replied: 'Louie, that bill has already been signed'

- Russell Berman (@russellberman) October 1, 2013


He are smart.
2013-10-01 03:44:38 PM
4 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: SnakeLee: I don't get how they can lie so blatantly and not get called out across the board, but here we are

They have FOX News carrying their water for them.


Yeah, see this isn't really a government "shutdown", it's more like a happy little "slimdown".

retired.talkingpointsmemo.com
2013-10-01 01:51:47 PM
4 votes:

skinnycatullus: Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.


Correct.

They have to specifically DEFUND it. Which will obviously never make it to the house or past the veto.

These are the most pig ignorant goatfarkers ever to attempt governing.
2013-10-01 09:17:26 PM
3 votes:
If they want piecemeal voting, then we should take to the most logical conclusion. Itemized voting for everything in every department.

All in favor of House Resolution 6,891,293 - "New Printer Toner for the Department of Agriculture's Forest And Fisheries Pennsylvania office, 2nd floor, Accounting Department's Network Printer Model Epson 4890G"
2013-10-01 03:46:10 PM
3 votes:

OhioUGrad: the repeated use of the word piecemeal in this thread has made me hungry for chicken


Make sure the GOP doesn't get to it first.
2013-10-01 03:25:27 PM
3 votes:
That poor, poor chicken.
2013-10-01 03:09:52 PM
3 votes:
Take it a step further! Insist that each individual government employee's time card be sent to Congress where it must be signed by a majority of both the House and Senate.

/Jethro Q. Bunn Whackett Buzzard Stubble and Boot Walrustitty 2016!
2013-10-01 01:25:35 PM
3 votes:
You don't have to be dumb as a rock to support the GOP, but it sure helps.
2013-10-01 01:22:44 PM
3 votes:
I'll eat one cookie, and drink some soda, but hell NO I ain't eating my vegetables!
2013-10-01 05:06:17 PM
2 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-10-01 04:32:18 PM
2 votes:

acchief: Dusk-You-n-Me: David Stockton, formerly of the Fed, estimates a shutdown costs 0.15 percent of GDP growth a week.- Annie Lowrey (@AnnieLowrey) October 1, 2013

I'm sure this will help with the dreaded economic uncertainty Republicans seem to be so concerned about.

Wow, that's alot. Scary almost even.
(0.15% => a factor of 0.0015 in growth)

Yeah, really scary.


I'm guessing you went to the coconut school of economics.
2013-10-01 04:13:28 PM
2 votes:

sdd2000: SkinnyHead: This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.

WHAT PORTION OF "OBAMACARE  ALREADY IS FUNDED" DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?


The Obamacare, the already, and the funded part most likely.


Why is skinnyhead refusing to negotiate with me in good faith for the 2 years of total fark that he owes me in one month bits.


----

So let me get this straight. The GOP is willing to find the government, but only if they do it as slowly as possible, one item at a time.
2013-10-01 04:03:14 PM
2 votes:
SKINNYHEAD,


You will buy me 2 years of total fark, but I want them in individual 1 month bits.


YOU HAVE UNTIL 6PM TODAY TO COMPLY!

//Its so sad that SkinnyHead is the best troll Ive seen in weeks.
2013-10-01 03:55:48 PM
2 votes:
I like how the GOP thinks they've won something.
2013-10-01 03:50:37 PM
2 votes:

serial_crusher: Are we sure healthcare is their endgame?  Maybe it's something else on the agenda.  Food stamps?  The US Postal Service?  NPR?  Planned Parenthood


stockpiling potatoes.
2013-10-01 03:49:34 PM
2 votes:
As much as I hate stooping down to someone's level, the GOP rhetoric is occupying WAY too much airtime in the news.

Democrats need to make a concession: agree to delay Obamacare for a year if the GOP agrees to ban assault rifles... or a massive tax hike on the 1%.

Oh, that goes against your agenda?!?!?!  It's non-negotiable?!?!?!

Welcome to COMPROMISE 101, asshats....
2013-10-01 03:48:27 PM
2 votes:
No

POTUS can't have a line item budget

No piece-meal CR that will take the rest of the decade to get through

No

You have a clean bill, PUT IT UP FOR A VOTE

This is no longer a power play, a smart tactic, fiscal conservatism, or even a statement of ideology - this is a bunch of yahoos basically admitting they are so inexperienced and/or petty they need to examine the entire federal budget like a woman trying to find the "right" pair of black pumps while her husband slowly starves to death 100 feet from the food court

No
2013-10-01 03:46:58 PM
2 votes:
Obligatory?

 25.media.tumblr.com
2013-10-01 03:40:27 PM
2 votes:
Harry Reid's government shutdown.

i.imgur.com
2013-10-01 03:30:49 PM
2 votes:

Rann Xerox: That poor, poor chicken.


At this point they've raped that thing so many times it's nothing more than a glob of grease at the bottom of a KFC bucket.
2013-10-01 03:26:46 PM
2 votes:
Krauthammer came up this plan last night on O'Reilly, glad to see the house is scanning TV for ideas to complete their master plan.
2013-10-01 03:06:32 PM
2 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Tigger: These are the most pig ignorant goatfarkers ever to attempt governing.

That's not what they're attempting.  But the rest of your premise is sound.


I accept your correction.

These are the most pig ignorant goatfarkers ever to pig ignorantly goatfark
2013-10-01 02:45:18 PM
2 votes:
This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.
2013-10-01 02:09:45 PM
2 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: What part of "NO" don't those goatfarkers get?


Hmm, maybe we should rephrase it as "baa," followed by a swift headbutt to the groin. They might understand then.
2013-10-01 01:53:11 PM
2 votes:

skinnycatullus: Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.


Why must you ruin it for everyone?!
2013-10-01 07:33:24 PM
1 votes:

sprawl15: DamnYankees: In other words, Democrats are voting down bills they don't want to pass. Shocking.

Show me where in the Constitution it says that Democrats are allowed to vote no on bills.


t.qkme.me
2013-10-01 05:56:19 PM
1 votes:
Dumbass Republicans. For all this trouble, you'd think they fighting for the right of a small minority to deny health insurance for those who can't afford it or have pre-existing conditions.
2013-10-01 05:24:49 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: BojanglesPaladin: Heliovdrake: I think everyone in this thread needs to go ahead and use the report function at the bottom of the page to report skinnyhead for trolling.
No,  really... or put him on ignore...

What do you think he is doing that is Trolling?

Ironically? Refusing to compromise.


He has continued to refuse to even acknowledge that he owes me 2 years of total fark.

He has not ONCE come to the table in good faith to give me the 2 years of total fark that I want from him.

Which I want paid for in 1 month increments, not all at once.

Why one he even consider negotiating for my 2 years of total fark?
2013-10-01 05:12:14 PM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: What the fark is the end game?


They're going to end up getting the medical device tax repealed, and and about a 10 point drop on the generic ballot.  They could have easily gotten that yesterday.
2013-10-01 05:10:17 PM
1 votes:
BP would like you all to know that he takes pride in being wrong regardless of who agrees with any particular position that he takes.
2013-10-01 05:01:14 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: SkinnyHead: If that's the case, why object to piecemeal funding of everything else, everything that does not relate to Obamacare.

Why can't these "piecemeal" fundings be done all at once? Say, in a continuing resolution?


I was thinking they should do them piecemeal in many different parts, let's say one piecemeal spending bill for each House sub- committee covering they section of the government they oversee.  Then as each sub-committee sends its bill to the floor, they could be packaged together for the final vote. Kind of like when many people are making the same trip, they would take a bus instead of all going alone.  So, you put these bills on the bus, and you might need, I dunno, thirteen different buses to fit all the bills, and then send those thirteen buses to the House floor for a vote.  But if you're really pressed for time, you might even make a bus for all the buses, so instead of thirteen separate buses, you have one bus that holds all of the bills in each of the buses; a sort of Omni-bus, if you will. But the nice thing about this plan is that all of the Congressional sub-committees get to have their say on the budget that they've been assigned responsibility for by virtue of their committee assignment.

I'm still working out the kinks in this, but I think it could work. What do you think, Skinnyhead? Do you think Republicans should try this route?

/bus
2013-10-01 04:50:03 PM
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: Because we tried that, and we can't bring both sides together that way


Why not? Which side is unwilling to fund the government? Seems to me that's the goal of both sides, is it not?
2013-10-01 04:49:54 PM
1 votes:

Infernalist: Any bill coming from the House needs to have WIC and food assistance funding attached to it and sent back to the House for another vote.


And: applying Income Tax rates to ALL income, regardless of capital gains or whatever.
Remove the Social Security Cap on contributions.
Reduce the Inheritance Tax deduction to $500,000
Remove the Debt Ceiling vote  in perpetuity in adherence to the 14th Amendment
Remove all federal funding to any project in all the Blue states
Stop funding for planes and tanks the military doesn't even want.
2013-10-01 04:49:00 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: SkinnyHead: If that's the case, why object to piecemeal funding of everything else, everything that does not relate to Obamacare.

Why can't these "piecemeal" fundings be done all at once? Say, in a continuing resolution?


Because we tried that, and we can't bring both sides together that way.  We need to find a way to fund as much of the government as we can.  The piecemeal approach breaks things down in a way that forces both sides to fund as much of the government as possible.  You say that Obamacare is already funded, so what the heck?  We should give it a try.
2013-10-01 04:36:00 PM
1 votes:

amiable: Ever feel like John Boehner is trapped in his own personal purgatory where is is forced to try to sell gradually more insane Tea Party strategies all the while screaming "It's not going to work you dumb Farkers!!!!"   Do you think one day he is just going to snap?  I mean how much more degrading does this need to get for him?


i.imgur.com
2013-10-01 04:34:42 PM
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: If that's the case, why object to piecemeal funding of everything else, everything that does not relate to Obamacare.


Why can't these "piecemeal" fundings be done all at once? Say, in a continuing resolution?
2013-10-01 04:34:10 PM
1 votes:
Any bill coming from the House needs to have WIC and food assistance funding attached to it and sent back to the House for another vote.
2013-10-01 04:30:16 PM
1 votes:
Skinnyhead has yet to reply.


Its clear he is unwilling to negotiate for my 2 years of totalfark.

Why wont he negotiate?

Is he too busy hunting endangered animals (which he doesnt even eat or stuff, he just lets them rot)

Is he too busy stalking, capturing and skinning the homeless?
2013-10-01 04:28:02 PM
1 votes:

sdd2000: SkinnyHead: This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.

WHAT PORTION OF "OBAMACARE  ALREADY IS FUNDED" DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?


If that's the case, why object to piecemeal funding of everything else, everything that does not relate to Obamacare.  The House can send piecemeal bills to the Senate one by one.  Military pay?  Does Harry Reid object to that?  No, he already allowed that one.  How about National Parks?  Does Harry Reid object to that?  Let's find out.  We can go through the entire budget that way, funding as much as we can.
2013-10-01 04:23:46 PM
1 votes:

Ego edo infantia cattus: I think it's more like chicken pate by now.


Could that be...warm chicken pate?

/Ted Cruz will be in his bunk.
2013-10-01 04:19:18 PM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: The Senate should return each individual funding bill back to the senate with a rider that would eliminate the need for a debt ceiling vote.


Better yet, insert the Presidents 2013 budget in toto as a rider, and increase the top tax bracket to 89%.
ecl
2013-10-01 04:14:57 PM
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: OhioUGrad: the repeated use of the word piecemeal in this thread has made me hungry for chicken

I heard under Obamacare we will no longer be allowed to eat fried chicken. Only broccoli


I heard under Obamacare we will only be allowed three sheets of TP to wipe with.  Thanks Obama.
2013-10-01 04:09:59 PM
1 votes:

Deneb81: And when each comes back with a portion of funding for the missing Obamacare funds, Boehner should push that!

It's compromise!


We've got a reasonable proposal for ending Harry Reid's shutdown on the table, but it looks like some of you just don't want it to end.  The National Parks shouldn't be the battleground for Obamacare.  We should fund those things that we agree should get funding, and confine the battle only to those things in controversy.
2013-10-01 04:04:09 PM
1 votes:

heap: Headso: heap: Skyrmion: [img.fark.net image 742x600]

holy. boiled. owl. shiat.

i think foxnews.com just broke my wookie.

It's nice that derpers have their own language to describe things, it makes it easy to know who they are.

it's just straight up 'i reject your reality and substitute my own' type stuff, but without even a casual wink given to how self deluded they aim to be.


Hey don't knock it, their unskewed polls and echo chamber worked to get Romney elected... remember those sweet fireworks over boston habah?
2013-10-01 04:03:08 PM
1 votes:

Skyrmion: Marcus Aurelius: SnakeLee: I don't get how they can lie so blatantly and not get called out across the board, but here we are

They have FOX News carrying their water for them.

Yeah, see this isn't really a government "shutdown", it's more like a happy little "slimdown".

[retired.talkingpointsmemo.com image 742x600]


Silmdowns sounds double plus good.
2013-10-01 04:02:17 PM
1 votes:

acchief: parasol: No

 - this is a bunch of yahoos basically admitting they are so inexperienced and/or petty they need to examine the entire federal budget like a woman trying to find the "right" pair of black pumps while her husband slowly starves to death 100 feet from the food court

What have you got against examining the entire federal budget? It's about time somebody went through it with a finetooth comb and got rid of all the bloat.


The time to itemize your belongings for your homeowners insurance is not while the house is currently on fire.
2013-10-01 04:01:17 PM
1 votes:

Headso: heap: Skyrmion: [img.fark.net image 742x600]

holy. boiled. owl. shiat.

i think foxnews.com just broke my wookie.

It's nice that derpers have their own language to describe things, it makes it easy to know who they are.


it's just straight up 'i reject your reality and substitute my own' type stuff, but without even a casual wink given to how self deluded they aim to be.
2013-10-01 03:56:50 PM
1 votes:

heap: Skyrmion: [img.fark.net image 742x600]

holy. boiled. owl. shiat.

i think foxnews.com just broke my wookie.


It's nice that derpers have their own language to describe things, it makes it easy to know who they are.
2013-10-01 03:55:30 PM
1 votes:
SI heard this on the radio this morning. I think it was Laura Ingram who had a GoP Senator on. He told her "we got these small bills through to make sure that our military would be and individual bills for other essential employees. Yesterday Obama gave a speech and listed Parks and other government services. So we are going to go down that list and make sure that one by one each one gets funded. Then we can say 'OK Mr. Obama, we have compromised now it is your turn, delay the individual mandate for one year."

It was kinda surreal, they are going to cave on 'shutting down the govenrnment' one CR at a time and then try to act like they took the high road.

And then I got sad, because I realized most of the people listening to that show would buy it.
2013-10-01 03:54:49 PM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: There's no chance in hell they do this - the last time they tried to do this a few months ago the GOP couldn't even get these bills out of committee due to an internal revolt.


If they couldn't even pass a farm bill, there is no way that the majority of government gets funded by this process.  Basically, they're trying to break government down into small enough pieces that they can drown each individual piece in the bathtub.
2013-10-01 03:52:05 PM
1 votes:
Amendments to add all funding to each bill. And a debt ceiling increase.

That's a compromise. The republicans get the funding they want, and the government reopens. Win win.
2013-10-01 03:50:59 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: House Republicans are trying to pressure Democrats on their side of the dome. The bills will come up under suspension of the rules, which means they must garner two-thirds of the chamber for passage.

i.imgur.com

And they raised the threshold for passage to 2/3?

That's not going to happen.
2013-10-01 03:50:12 PM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: mainstreet62: Defunding this makes our troops vulnerable to attack.

Also if the troops don't get paid they're released from their contracts. Basically if the paychecks don't show up, they can walk.


Military is not effected by the shutdown.  Jeez people I thought we were smarter than that.  Plus NO not getting paid doesn't mean they can walk, for the love of god.  When you were a kid and the bus didn't show up within 10 min of it's scheduled time that meant you had a free day off of school too huh?
2013-10-01 03:47:43 PM
1 votes:
Up next:

Harry Reid attaches legislation to each piecemeal funding measure that makes gerrymandering illegal.
2013-10-01 03:47:30 PM
1 votes:

Skyrmion: img.fark.net


holy. boiled. owl. shiat.

i think foxnews.com just broke my wookie.
2013-10-01 03:45:36 PM
1 votes:
Wow this sounds great just do it and maybe to save time just write it all down on one paper.
2013-10-01 03:45:17 PM
1 votes:
the repeated use of the word piecemeal in this thread has made me hungry for chicken
2013-10-01 03:42:32 PM
1 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: In House GOP meeting, Gohmert pushed for military pay bill in conf. committee; Boehner replied: 'Louie, that bill has already been signed'- Russell Berman (@russellberman) October 1, 2013

He are smart.


Louie Gohmert is proof positive that someone in a persistent vegetative state can still maintain a meaningful quality of life.
2013-10-01 03:40:47 PM
1 votes:
Quick question: let's say the Senate agreed to this stupid plan, and they funded every program one-by-one with separate bills. Approximately how long would that take?
2013-10-01 03:39:47 PM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: The Senate should return each individual funding bill back to the senate with a rider that would eliminate the need for a debt ceiling vote.


Better, amend the bill replacing all of the text of the bill with a clean CR, just don't change the title. Then when they don't bring it back up for a vote, you say see they wouldn't even consider it.
2013-10-01 03:31:58 PM
1 votes:
Wouldn't that take a very long time?
2013-10-01 03:19:19 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: SkinnyHead: This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.

Problem: Obamacare is already funded through mandatory spending.


Why do you see that as a problem?
2013-10-01 03:06:34 PM
1 votes:
That's going to take a while. A long time actually. Apparently thee guys don't read the appropriations bills either.
2013-10-01 03:05:53 PM
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.


Problem: Obamacare is already funded through mandatory spending.
2013-10-01 02:58:31 PM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: The more I think about it, the more insane this plan is.


It's a Republican plan. What else did you expect?
2013-10-01 02:49:54 PM
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.


You're SO above average!
2013-10-01 02:44:22 PM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: The Senate should return each individual funding bill back to the senate with a rider that would eliminate the need for a debt ceiling vote.


And all the rest of the funding attached with a simple majority vote after cloture.  They can easily do that.  Then after the first one goes back to the house and Boehner refuses to do anything with it, laugh their asses off as the Senate Republicans have to filibuster any additional House bills.
2013-10-01 02:08:28 PM
1 votes:
The Senate should return each individual funding bill back to the senate with a rider that would eliminate the need for a debt ceiling vote.
2013-10-01 02:06:18 PM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: SnakeLee: I don't get how they can lie so blatantly and not get called out across the board, but here we are

They have FOX News carrying their water for them.


There are huge groups of people who given a choice between adjusting their point of view and being right versus being wrong, looking stupid, lying and not having to change what they are saying, will pick the latter.

It doesn't make sense to sane people.
2013-10-01 01:55:00 PM
1 votes:

Tigger: skinnycatullus: Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.

Correct.

They have to specifically DEFUND it. Which will obviously never make it to the house or past the veto.

These are the most pig ignorant goatfarkers ever to attempt governing.


sorry 'never make it to the senate'

point about pig ignorant goatfarkers obviously stands.
2013-10-01 01:33:14 PM
1 votes:

skinnycatullus: Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.


shhhhhhh
2013-10-01 01:23:36 PM
1 votes:

skinnycatullus: Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.


No one said these were smart people.
 
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