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(Politico)   GOP's new plan, in lieu of passing a CR, is to pass small, individual bills funding one program at a time, and they just won't pass one for Obamacare   (politico.com) divider line 381
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2013-10-01 01:20:13 PM  
There's no chance in hell they do this - the last time they tried to do this a few months ago the GOP couldn't even get these bills out of committee due to an internal revolt.
 
2013-10-01 01:22:20 PM  
Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.
 
2013-10-01 01:22:44 PM  
I'll eat one cookie, and drink some soda, but hell NO I ain't eating my vegetables!
 
2013-10-01 01:23:19 PM  

skinnycatullus: Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.


You are correct. Makes all this even more hilarious.
 
2013-10-01 01:23:36 PM  

skinnycatullus: Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.


No one said these were smart people.
 
2013-10-01 01:25:35 PM  
You don't have to be dumb as a rock to support the GOP, but it sure helps.
 
2013-10-01 01:33:14 PM  

skinnycatullus: Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.


shhhhhhh
 
2013-10-01 01:51:47 PM  

skinnycatullus: Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.


Correct.

They have to specifically DEFUND it. Which will obviously never make it to the house or past the veto.

These are the most pig ignorant goatfarkers ever to attempt governing.
 
2013-10-01 01:53:11 PM  

skinnycatullus: Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.


Why must you ruin it for everyone?!
 
2013-10-01 01:54:03 PM  

DamnYankees: There's no chance in hell they do this - the last time they tried to do this a few months ago the GOP couldn't even get these bills out of committee due to an internal revolt.


Yup.  And the Democrats could say they won't fund any of these, but then one that makes a little sense could get to the Senate and the Dems will vote for it, which will have the House GOP crying about how unfair it is that they did that.

I hate to say it, but the Republicans are way better at messaging on this than I thought they would be.  They have front position on every news site blaming the Senate and lying about exemptions.  I don't get how they can lie so blatantly and not get called out across the board, but here we are.
 
2013-10-01 01:55:00 PM  

Tigger: skinnycatullus: Umm... I may be wrong, but the ACA is already funded. That's why the Marketplace is open today.

Correct.

They have to specifically DEFUND it. Which will obviously never make it to the house or past the veto.

These are the most pig ignorant goatfarkers ever to attempt governing.


sorry 'never make it to the senate'

point about pig ignorant goatfarkers obviously stands.
 
2013-10-01 01:55:13 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-01 01:58:37 PM  

SnakeLee: I don't get how they can lie so blatantly and not get called out across the board, but here we are


They have FOX News carrying their water for them.
 
2013-10-01 02:01:56 PM  
What part of "NO" don't those goatfarkers get?

/yeah, yeah... two letters is a lot for them...
 
2013-10-01 02:06:18 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: SnakeLee: I don't get how they can lie so blatantly and not get called out across the board, but here we are

They have FOX News carrying their water for them.


There are huge groups of people who given a choice between adjusting their point of view and being right versus being wrong, looking stupid, lying and not having to change what they are saying, will pick the latter.

It doesn't make sense to sane people.
 
2013-10-01 02:08:28 PM  
The Senate should return each individual funding bill back to the senate with a rider that would eliminate the need for a debt ceiling vote.
 
2013-10-01 02:09:06 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The Senate should return each individual funding bill back to the senate House with a rider that would eliminate the need for a debt ceiling vote.


FTFM
 
2013-10-01 02:09:45 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: What part of "NO" don't those goatfarkers get?


Hmm, maybe we should rephrase it as "baa," followed by a swift headbutt to the groin. They might understand then.
 
2013-10-01 02:31:33 PM  

Tigger: These are the most pig ignorant goatfarkers ever to attempt governing.


That's not what they're attempting.  But the rest of your premise is sound.
 
2013-10-01 02:34:32 PM  

SnakeLee: I hate to say it, but the Republicans are way better at messaging on this than I thought they would be.


They've always been better at getting their message across.

They know you need to get out there and SHOW people what they should believe. The Democrats still think that letting events speak for themselves is an effective counter to this.
 
2013-10-01 02:44:22 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The Senate should return each individual funding bill back to the senate with a rider that would eliminate the need for a debt ceiling vote.


And all the rest of the funding attached with a simple majority vote after cloture.  They can easily do that.  Then after the first one goes back to the house and Boehner refuses to do anything with it, laugh their asses off as the Senate Republicans have to filibuster any additional House bills.
 
2013-10-01 02:44:32 PM  
The more I think about it, the more insane this plan is. The whole point of this entire thing is that the House needs the Senate and the President to affirmatively defund Obamacare. Funding everythign else piecemeal does literally nothing to make that happen. Everything the House R's are willing to fund, the Democrats are also willing to fund. They might as well just pass the CR if they are going to do this.
 
2013-10-01 02:45:18 PM  
This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.
 
2013-10-01 02:49:54 PM  

SkinnyHead: This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.


You're SO above average!
 
2013-10-01 02:58:31 PM  

DamnYankees: The more I think about it, the more insane this plan is.


It's a Republican plan. What else did you expect?
 
2013-10-01 03:04:53 PM  
Tea Qaeda spokesperson Michele Bachmann has already claimed GOP ownership of the shutdown: "It's exactly what we wanted, and we got it." She also thinks a miracle from God will force Obama to defund the ACA.

So you knuckledragging redneck apolgists can stop pretending that A) this shutdown is anyone's fault but the GOP's, and B) that your party isn't pants-on-head crazy.
 
2013-10-01 03:05:53 PM  

SkinnyHead: This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.


Problem: Obamacare is already funded through mandatory spending.
 
2013-10-01 03:05:57 PM  

SkinnyHead: This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.


um... obamacare is already funded. you do know that, right?
 
2013-10-01 03:06:32 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Tigger: These are the most pig ignorant goatfarkers ever to attempt governing.

That's not what they're attempting.  But the rest of your premise is sound.


I accept your correction.

These are the most pig ignorant goatfarkers ever to pig ignorantly goatfark
 
2013-10-01 03:06:34 PM  
That's going to take a while. A long time actually. Apparently thee guys don't read the appropriations bills either.
 
2013-10-01 03:08:46 PM  
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"
 
2013-10-01 03:09:52 PM  
Take it a step further! Insist that each individual government employee's time card be sent to Congress where it must be signed by a majority of both the House and Senate.

/Jethro Q. Bunn Whackett Buzzard Stubble and Boot Walrustitty 2016!
 
2013-10-01 03:10:41 PM  
Banning omnibus spending bills and bill riders is an excellent idea.
 
2013-10-01 03:10:44 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The Senate should return each individual funding bill back to the House with a rider that would eliminate the need for a debt ceiling vote.


I was going to suggest they simply put the Senate budget on as a rider, but I like your notion better.

Marcus Aurelius: You're SO above

far from average!

FTFY?
 
2013-10-01 03:19:19 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: SkinnyHead: This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.

Problem: Obamacare is already funded through mandatory spending.


Why do you see that as a problem?
 
2013-10-01 03:22:40 PM  
All of this bullshiate isnt even about a real budget- this is about a continuing resolution to keep spending at current levels until mid December- when we would have to do this all over again.

They are arguing over funding the government for 6 weeks.
 
2013-10-01 03:23:26 PM  

vernonFL: All of this bullshiate isnt even about a real budget- this is about a continuing resolution to keep spending at current levels until mid December- when we would have to do this all over again.

They are arguing over funding the government for 6 weeks.


Mid-December would be 10 weeks. Mid-November is 6 weeks.
 
2013-10-01 03:24:16 PM  
Oops
 
2013-10-01 03:25:27 PM  
That poor, poor chicken.
 
2013-10-01 03:25:27 PM  
until nothing but the military passes the purity test, of course.

all it takes is a drudge link saying the national park system benefits abortions, DC trashmen get healthcare, or something goofy like that... and boehner's sitting all alone again.
 
2013-10-01 03:25:56 PM  

FlashHarry: SkinnyHead: This sounds like a good idea.  Fund everything in piecemeal fashion except Obamacare, and that effectively ends Harry Reid's government shutdown.  They've already done it once for military pay.  Senate agreed to that.  Fund everything else (except Obamacare) in the same way.

um... obamacare is already funded. you do know that, right?


You realize who you're talking to?
 
2013-10-01 03:26:32 PM  

DamnYankees: The more I think about it, the more insane this plan is. The whole point of this entire thing is that the House needs the Senate and the President to affirmatively defund Obamacare. Funding everythign else piecemeal does literally nothing to make that happen. Everything the House R's are willing to fund, the Democrats are also willing to fund. They might as well just pass the CR if they are going to do this.


Actually I think this is a great plan. There is a ton of Pork projects that might not make it through this process. Obamacare would keep going, but the budget could really get a good decent trimming.
 
2013-10-01 03:26:46 PM  
Krauthammer came up this plan last night on O'Reilly, glad to see the house is scanning TV for ideas to complete their master plan.
 
2013-10-01 03:26:54 PM  
Here's their brilliant plan:

They offered the Senate a bill that funded everything but Obamacare. It failed.

Now they will offer several bills that fund everything but Obamacare. It will not fail, because...


This is even worse than their attempt at the piecemeal idiocy previously, because then the clever plan was to get a vote on things that they believed some vulnerable Democrats wouldn't vote against, that wouldn't pass as part of the combined bill. That's not the case this time. The vulnerable Democrats already voted against all of the nice bits with delaying Obamacare attached. Splitting it into several pieces makes absolutely no difference, but such is their desperation that this seems like a novel new strategy.
 
2013-10-01 03:28:05 PM  

MindStalker: DamnYankees: The more I think about it, the more insane this plan is. The whole point of this entire thing is that the House needs the Senate and the President to affirmatively defund Obamacare. Funding everythign else piecemeal does literally nothing to make that happen. Everything the House R's are willing to fund, the Democrats are also willing to fund. They might as well just pass the CR if they are going to do this.

Actually I think this is a great plan. There is a ton of Pork projects that might not make it through this process. Obamacare would keep going, but the budget could really get a good decent trimming.


Ah yes - "pork". The conservative word for "spending I don't like".
 
2013-10-01 03:28:08 PM  
They would need House Dems to vote for this in order to pass it before it gets shot down in the Senate which they've already said they would do before it ever got near Obama's desk.

It is just more theater.  They will hold out until the debt ceiling and I fear even past that.  You won't get a CR anytime soon.  They are going to chuck the baby and the bath water.
 
2013-10-01 03:28:46 PM  
Are.... are they that passive aggressive?

I mean, it still counts.  It is still on the books.  ACA hasn't gone away.
 
2013-10-01 03:29:57 PM  
So once again, the Republicans are "shutting down the government" by funding the government.
 
2013-10-01 03:30:06 PM  
memedepot.com
 
2013-10-01 03:30:49 PM  

Rann Xerox: That poor, poor chicken.


At this point they've raped that thing so many times it's nothing more than a glob of grease at the bottom of a KFC bucket.
 
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