The Muthaship: Lord_Baull: Is it me, or does putting barricades in front of a public area just because there's no one to pick up trash around the area sound really stupid?It is, but it aids the left's message.
Lawnchair: Lord_Baull: Is it me, or does putting barricades in front of a public area just because there's no one to pick up trash around the area sound really stupid?No, not just you. I'm a lefty-lefty, but there's a lot of dumb drama going on here too. I've already hit a couple of federal websites that are blacked out (some Library of Congress links, some Census Factfinder figures). I mean, seriously, the servers are there. They're presumably still plugged in (enough to give me the "shut down" message anyway). Blocking the info is pedantic. Seriously... websites run by Orthodox Jews don't shut down for the Sabbath (on the "we're not doing work by leaving this running" reasoning). There's no reason to shut down the websites. Or public grounds. I know, employees can't work, but get the Boy Scouts out to pick up trash or whatever.
Amos Quito: OMG!Just went to the Grand Canyon National Park webpage: www.nps.gov/grca/THEY CLOSED THE GRAND CANYON![arizonablogging.net image 550x311]Where will all the water from the Colorado River go now?
Ker_Thwap: How the holy hell can people be treating this article as a left vs. right contest? Veterans come in all flavors.
dr_blasto: sendtodave: See? We can still have government services without having to pay for them!WWII memorial is not in the Constitution, farkers! Go make your own and open it to the invisible hand!
Harry Freakstorm: WW II Vet1: The memorial is closed!WW II Vet2: Do we call the park or the police?WW II Vets: Let's call the Park Police!WW II Vets: CALLING THE PARK POLICE!Park Police: What's all this then. Are any of you endangered squirrels? There doesn't seem to be as many around as there used to be.WW II Vet: Why is the park closed?Park Police: Because there's no one here who can run it. No bloody money in the budget, matey.WW II Vet: Well, we can run it. All we have to do is clean up after ourselves.PP: What? You think you have what it takes to be a GS-12 slash 4 dot 9 Park maintainer (second class)? I think not.Sergeant Major: Sorry. Sorry. This isn't making any sense at all. Why is the Park Police speaking in a British accent? Yes. We get it. Services are cut. Now, all of you, be off. Go.
skozlaw: So arrest them (and King) for trespassing. And slap King with additional charges of disturbing the peace and interfering with police duties.Shutdown means shutdown. If you don't like it, don't vote for lunatics that do things like this.
Cataholic: Amos Quito: OMG!Just went to the Grand Canyon National Park webpage: www.nps.gov/grca/THEY CLOSED THE GRAND CANYON![arizonablogging.net image 550x311]Where will all the water from the Colorado River go now?Mount Rushmore is closed as well.We are paying Christo $10 Million to cover it up so that nobody can see it. Because it's closed.
vrax: MarkEC: Is it reasonable that some penalties of the law are delayed for a year but not the individual penalty? How many exceptions have been given? Is it reasonable that it's been 3 years since the law was passed but the exchanges are not ready? Is it fair in your opinion that a lot of people are having their insurance rates tripled? I work for a company with less than the required 50, but it offered health insurance, guess what? I have family members that have been told they are not going to work more than 30 hours per week because of the ACA. Tough shiat for them? The ACA as written is horrible. Can we have a discussion about what should replace it or are you too much of a partisan to actually discuss solutions instead of throwing blame around?If you think that the ACA is horrible, you can also thank the GOP. It should have been called GOPCare. As it stands now, it's what we have, it is better than what we had, but it can still use some work. The GOP plan right now is to postpone until they can defund and overturn. That's it! They don't want something better like single-payer. They want the status quo. They have proven that they are unable to deal in good faith, so why should anyone deal with them?!
tagkc: [350f2h3jkir93bsly2c4imnks5.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com image 650x650]Hey look! The RNCC is even blaming the closure on the Democrats.
ElwoodCuse: Tell me something. It's still "we the people", right?
spidermilk: I visited Yosemite last year and 3 park rangers were loading a guy who had died on the trail onto a stretcher.
Deep Contact: Hope they all lit up Lucky Strikes and beat up the guards.
AngryJailhouseFistfark: topcon: What's to "shut down?" It's a little monument you can walk around. It could exist for the next century(ies) without anyone touching it.Except this is Homeland and if some jackass trips and busts his head open on a marble column or drowns in the fountain you know that they sue the shiat out of the US Park Service.
I_C_Weener: How is the internet still on? Isn't that part of Skynet which is part of the government?
DamnYankees: The WWII Memorial still sucks.
stovepipe: Anybody checked in on the freepers to see what they think about all this? I'd check but I don't have the stomach for it today.
Lost Thought 00: parkke0108: Remember, what they're doing on the hill doesn't mean everyone else has to be stupid too. I'm not surprised that the cops didn't force the vets out, and good on them for that. I think that the rangers at the national parks should let people in too, despite the shutdown.If a shopping mall shuts down would you suggest that it be left unlocked as well?
skozlaw: Amos Quito: Logic: Close parks - lay off 400 Federal Parks staffers bc "no money".Assign 4000 armed Federal guards to keep people from visiting closed parks.Did you just make that up yourself or did some other right-wing crackpot make it up and you're just repeating it?
Karma Chameleon: I can respect the idea of this, but they are also breaking the law. Being a veteran does not entitle you to special treatment., or being above the law. Sorry.
grumpfuff: skozlaw: Carousel Beast: It's amazing how many idiot Farkers here think the people involved must be ZOMG TEAHDISTS. You know, because no WW2 vets voted for Roosevelt.The "person involved" in that comment was Steve King, tea party darling who has spoken at numerous tea party rallies and enjoy wide support among tea party adherents.I have no idea what you think Roosevelt has to do with the fact that Steve King is a teaderp.In fairness to King, he has blamed the Tea Party for the shutdown and compared them to terrorists. He wants to repeal Obamacare, yes, but he thinks this is the wrong way to do it.
DubyaHater: topcon: What's to "shut down?" It's a little monument you can walk around. It could exist for the next century(ies) without anyone touching it.Because without police around to monitor the area, fights could break out. Eventually some asshole will pull a gun and people subsequently die.Bad things can happen when large groups of people come together
sendtodave: See? We can still have government services without having to pay for them!
topcon: What's to "shut down?" It's a little monument you can walk around. It could exist for the next century(ies) without anyone touching it.
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