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2013-10-01 12:14:36 PM  
Not surprising in the least.

Remember folks: They aren't against Obama just because its Obama, they are against his policies.
 
2013-10-01 12:24:10 PM  
[paraphrase]Oh my God, you made me look stupid.[/paraphrase]


/Nope. That was allllllll you, sweetie.
 
2013-10-01 12:25:45 PM  
The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.
 
2013-10-01 12:26:48 PM  
"It's right there in the name!"

GOP target voter...
 
2013-10-01 12:28:25 PM  

HairBolus: The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.


yeah, they actually want it to be associated with him.  just like he said, when this is all said and done and popular you can bet the republican's won't be calling it "obamacare" any more.
 
2013-10-01 12:30:37 PM  

HairBolus: The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.


Right wingers spent 100's of millions to put the "Obamacare" label on it, and make it as negative and derogatory as possible. Trying to change the name would have been a losing battle.

Two years from now, the GOP will be doing everything they can to make everyone forget it is Obamacare by using any other name possible.
 
2013-10-01 12:30:45 PM  
I'm selling this new food called Divine delight. Its very low cost and its available everywhere. Looks like chocolate. Don't worry about the taste, as you will get used to it.

/Devine delight may actually be human waste, but is guaranteed.
//Guarantee expires as soon as you pay and get your receipt.

Bloody brainwashed morans who can't make a decision unless they are spoon fed their personal views and opinions.

/Now continue enjoying Bush jr's martial law. Because without paranoia, the war machine grinds to a halt. Paid for by the taxes you give to the military industrial complex and big oil.
 
2013-10-01 12:32:06 PM  
The only thing that most people really don't like is the individual mandate, which is unfortunately necessary for the whole thing to work.
 
2013-10-01 12:37:57 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: [paraphrase]Oh my God, you made me look stupid.[/paraphrase]


/Nope. That was allllllll you, sweetie.


I'm still not 100% sure that she was acknowledging that ACA and Obamacare are the same thing. She may have been saying "You made me look stupid" as in "I almost fell for your silly joke, but there is no way that I believe that ACA and Obamacare are the same thing. Nice try, though.". I really wouldn't be surprised if she walked away still believing that she was right all along.
 
2013-10-01 12:52:00 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The only thing that most people really don't like is the individual mandate, which is unfortunately necessary for the whole thing to work.


The Republican part of the plan.
 
2013-10-01 12:54:34 PM  

olddeegee: TuteTibiImperes: The only thing that most people really don't like is the individual mandate, which is unfortunately necessary for the whole thing to work.

The Republican part of the plan.


Hopefully it helps pave the way for single payer.  In a few years it can be pitched as 'get care for no out of pocket expense, stop having to pay premiums, and all for a tax increase that will cost you less than the premiums you're paying now'.
 
2013-10-01 12:55:24 PM  
Who is the better president, Barack Obama or PRESDERP O'BONKADONK?????
 
2013-10-01 12:58:38 PM  

mediablitz: HairBolus: The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.

Right wingers spent 100's of millions to put the "Obamacare" label on it, and make it as negative and derogatory as possible. Trying to change the name would have been a losing battle.

Two years from now, the GOP will be doing everything they can to make everyone forget it is Obamacare by using any other name possible.


The GOP actually has an out here.

None of the state-run health insurance exchanges or other programs associated with the ACA are actually called "Obamacare" anywhere.  They all have their own names.

So what Republicans are going to tell voters is "Look, I helped bring you the Kentucky Health Benefit Exchange so that you could choose your own health insurance from a private insurer in a competitive market, so that you didn't have to be forced to accept 'Obamacare' and have big government take over your health care."

I'm calling it now.  That is what they are going to say.  And since voters are stupid and uninformed, they will lap it up.
 
2013-10-01 01:11:28 PM  

Doc Daneeka: mediablitz: HairBolus: The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.

Right wingers spent 100's of millions to put the "Obamacare" label on it, and make it as negative and derogatory as possible. Trying to change the name would have been a losing battle.

Two years from now, the GOP will be doing everything they can to make everyone forget it is Obamacare by using any other name possible.

The GOP actually has an out here.

None of the state-run health insurance exchanges or other programs associated with the ACA are actually called "Obamacare" anywhere.  They all have their own names.

So what Republicans are going to tell voters is "Look, I helped bring you the Kentucky Health Benefit Exchange so that you could choose your own health insurance from a private insurer in a competitive market, so that you didn't have to be forced to accept 'Obamacare' and have big government take over your health care."

I'm calling it now.  That is what they are going to say.  And since voters are stupid and uninformed, they will lap it up.


It is already happening. Can't get the link right now. I believe it was Kentucky where the exchange name was being promoted, and the right wing dufus said "as long as it isn't Obamacare".
 
2013-10-01 01:18:44 PM  
www.mountainfm.com

Approves.

/hot like a freshly legalized VCR
 
2013-10-01 01:54:08 PM  
All I know right now is I have a job that isn't changing anything.

And the Milwaukee County administrator is floating the balloon of shutting down their employee healthcare and putting everyone on the ACA/OC program.  It will be interesting to see how this pans out in a place where the residents are disproportionately Democratic, run by Democrats, where the employees are predominantly Democratic.

/No snark--it will be interesting.
 
Bf+
2013-10-01 02:08:33 PM  

doublesecretprobation: HairBolus: The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.

yeah, they actually want it to be associated with him.  just like he said, when this is all said and done and popular you can bet the republican's won't be calling it "obamacare" any more.



I was expecting that day to be today, October 1st, 2013.
Now with the whole government shut down, it might be a little bit longer.
 
2013-10-01 02:09:17 PM  

mediablitz: HairBolus: The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.

Right wingers spent 100's of millions to put the "Obamacare" label on it, and make it as negative and derogatory as possible. Trying to change the name would have been a losing battle.

Two years from now, the GOP will be doing everything they can to make everyone forget it is Obamacare by using any other name possible.


I love how one of the GOP quotes from last week (from Cruz, I think) was basically something like "We have to repeal this before it goes public, because once people actually see this they'll decide that they like it and want to keep it, and we'll never be able to get rid of it then." This wasn't in some internal Republican memo, mind you; it was part of an interview with the press. What kind of sick philosophy is this? If something is popular, that's kind of the point of having it as a feature of a democracy.
 
2013-10-01 02:09:47 PM  

Doc Daneeka: mediablitz: HairBolus: The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.

Right wingers spent 100's of millions to put the "Obamacare" label on it, and make it as negative and derogatory as possible. Trying to change the name would have been a losing battle.

Two years from now, the GOP will be doing everything they can to make everyone forget it is Obamacare by using any other name possible.

The GOP actually has an out here.

None of the state-run health insurance exchanges or other programs associated with the ACA are actually called "Obamacare" anywhere.  They all have their own names.

So what Republicans are going to tell voters is "Look, I helped bring you the Kentucky Health Benefit Exchange so that you could choose your own health insurance from a private insurer in a competitive market, so that you didn't have to be forced to accept 'Obamacare' and have big government take over your health care."

I'm calling it now.  That is what they are going to say.  And since voters are stupid and uninformed, they will lap it up.


Except for the 20-odd Red states who said FARK YOU and refused to setup a state exchange, in the firm knowledge that Romney would win the election and make the ugliness go away.

\I'm looking at you, Brownback, you tool
 
2013-10-01 02:10:20 PM  

fickenchucker: All I know right now is I have a job that isn't changing anything.

And the Milwaukee County administrator is floating the balloon of shutting down their employee healthcare and putting everyone on the ACA/OC program.  It will be interesting to see how this pans out in a place where the residents are disproportionately Democratic, run by Democrats, where the employees are predominantly Democratic.

/No snark--it will be interesting.


Catholic church did it here. Spouses no longer covered. AHA is cheaper for the family and has better overall coverage. The whining when it was announced has turned 180 degrees.

Less cost, more coverage.
 
2013-10-01 02:14:25 PM  

HairBolus: The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.


So it's Obama's fault the GOP calls it Obamacare?

Got it.
 
2013-10-01 02:25:13 PM  

edmo: HairBolus: The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.

So it's Obama's fault the GOP calls it Obamacare?

Got it.


The GOP would have loved it if Obama or proxy said that "the ACA will help white people too!" to underlie their theme that all current policies are designed to transfer wealth to undeserving blacks.
 
2013-10-01 02:35:42 PM  
Daily reminder that adding a drop of water to a bottle of bleach doesn't make it drinkable.
 
2013-10-01 05:22:55 PM  
I have no problem with the individual mandate.

The government says that if you want the privilege of driving your car in America, you must buy collision insurance, to protect your fellow citizens from expenses you may be responsible for in case of accident.

I see absolutely no difference as compared to the individual mandate that all US citizens be required to purchase catastrophic health insurance, to protect your fellow citizens from expenses you may be responsible for in case of accident.

THEY ARE THE SAME THING.
 
2013-10-01 05:27:44 PM  
When they got to the part where they broke it down for that dude with the goatee I was ready to toss my keyboard through the screen.  Reminded me of when Maher sent a producer to Mississippi with a camera and a list of questions.
 
2013-10-01 05:56:23 PM  

Flappyhead: When they got to the part where they broke it down for that dude with the goatee I was ready to toss my keyboard through the screen.  Reminded me of when Maher sent a producer to Mississippi with a camera and a list of questions.


It was Alexandra Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi's daughter.

AP:  Why don't you like Obama?  Is it because he's black?
Old Redneck: No, it's not because he's black it's because he's a half-breed.  He's black too, but he's a half-breed.
 
2013-10-01 05:58:22 PM  

Stig O'Tracy: I see absolutely no difference as compared to the individual mandate that all US citizens be required to purchase catastrophic health insurance, to protect your fellow citizens from expenses you may be responsible for in case of accident.


You don't have to own or drive a car.  Suicide is against the law.

Not the same thing.
 
2013-10-01 06:08:57 PM  
I can foresee a situation in the future where companies will just tell employees here's "X amount of money for coverage now go on the exchange and choose your own insurance". I don't know if that is a good idea or not.

FYI New York State had 2 million people trying to connect to their marketplace in the first two hours. Think there's a little pent up demand?
 
2013-10-01 07:37:48 PM  
Is Jimmy Kimmel really going to become the host of the Tonight Show? He is not funny, he is lame.
 
2013-10-01 08:16:38 PM  
Wow, the right wing has really one a number on the psyche of America. Nice PR smear campaign they've got going.
 
2013-10-01 08:18:18 PM  

red5ish: Is Jimmy Kimmel really going to become the host of the Tonight Show? He is not funny, he is lame.


up-ship.com
 
2013-10-01 08:35:17 PM  
Stig O'Tracy:


...if you want the privilege of driving your car in America, you must buy collision insurance..[...]


If you want the privilege of _____ in America, you must purchase catastrophic health insurance...[...]

THEY ARE THE SAME THING.


Please fill in the blank.
 
2013-10-01 08:37:41 PM  

mediablitz: HairBolus: The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.

Right wingers spent 100's of millions to put the "Obamacare" label on it, and make it as negative and derogatory as possible. Trying to change the name would have been a losing battle.

Two years from now, the GOP will be doing everything they can to make everyone forget it is Obamacare by using any other name possible.


I've already heard some people trying to claim Democrats were the ones that called it that first, and that it was never a derogatory term the GOP was using.
 
2013-10-01 08:52:33 PM  

meat0918: mediablitz: HairBolus: The confusing thing is that the Obama administration has embraced "Obamacare" rather than insisting that it is really called the ACA and that "Obamacare" is a derogatory name - I guess because they don't want to say "Obama" is derogatory. Google turns up people calling it it "N**ger care" without the asterisks so I guess "Obamacare" means the same to some.

Right wingers spent 100's of millions to put the "Obamacare" label on it, and make it as negative and derogatory as possible. Trying to change the name would have been a losing battle.

Two years from now, the GOP will be doing everything they can to make everyone forget it is Obamacare by using any other name possible.

I've already heard some people trying to claim Democrats were the ones that called it that first, and that it was never a derogatory term the GOP was using.


yeah those dems came up with teabagger too,  poor ol republicans.
 
2013-10-01 09:05:48 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The only thing that most people really don't like is the individual mandate, which is unfortunately necessary for the whole thing to work.


Living in Texas, I can assure you most of the dissatisfaction here is based on the idea that "lazy darkies are gettin' free stuff".
 
2013-10-01 09:17:07 PM  

fatbear: Stig O'Tracy:


...if you want the privilege of driving your car in America, you must buy collision insurance..[...]


If you want the privilege of _____ in America, you must purchase catastrophic health insurance...[...]

THEY ARE THE SAME THING.

Please fill in the blank.


Earning income. After all, if you don't have any income, and therefore no tax bill, the penalty is moot.
 
2013-10-01 09:38:16 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: fatbear: Stig O'Tracy:


...if you want the privilege of driving your car in America, you must buy collision insurance..[...]


If you want the privilege of _____ in America, you must purchase catastrophic health insurance...[...]

THEY ARE THE SAME THING.

Please fill in the blank.

Earning income. After all, if you don't have any income, and therefore no tax bill, the penalty is moot.


Gotta have a bank account to get ACA / OC.. fees and penalties will be deducted by the government.. did a GIS.. citation is there....
 
2013-10-01 11:11:18 PM  
The President likes to point out that the ACA was passed by the House and Senate, signed by the President and upheld by the Supreme Court. The original ACA bill - not the current one -  with an additional 20,000 pages of regulations, waivers for 1,231 corporate cronies of Obama, extension to set up the small business exchanges.  We still are holding our breaths as to what the Labor Unions will get. Did I forget about the 12 million + illegal aliens that are still a major strain to our health care system as they are most likely to utilize the Emergency Room - with out insurance. Hmmmmmmm..
 
2013-10-01 11:47:48 PM  
How about we have a one time choice in our life. One you can go the singer payer route with a bit higher taxes with no out of pocket expenses.  The other is lower taxes but you are forever excluded from Medicare/Medicaid   Social security etc.
 
2013-10-02 12:25:45 AM  
I want to watch it but I fear I will toss my laptop to the ground with rage on how stupid the people will be.
 
2013-10-02 04:33:56 AM  

Realist29: The President likes to point out that the ACA was passed by the House and Senate, signed by the President and upheld by the Supreme Court. The original ACA bill - not the current one -  with an additional 20,000 pages of regulations, waivers for 1,231 corporate cronies of Obama, extension to set up the small business exchanges.  We still are holding our breaths as to what the Labor Unions will get. Did I forget about the 12 million + illegal aliens that are still a major strain to our health care system as they are most likely to utilize the Emergency Room - with out insurance. Hmmmmmmm..


You mean the undocumented workers the illegal employers hire?

Oh wait. The same workers who support the economy to do jerbs US Americans won't do, pay sales (and often income) taxes, keep produce and construction costs low and aren't the 43 Million born and raised US Americans who had to use the ER for basic services too?
 
2013-10-02 07:26:53 AM  

OlderGuy: itcamefromschenectady: fatbear: Stig O'Tracy:


...if you want the privilege of driving your car in America, you must buy collision insurance..[...]


If you want the privilege of _____ in America, you must purchase catastrophic health insurance...[...]

THEY ARE THE SAME THING.

Please fill in the blank.

Earning income. After all, if you don't have any income, and therefore no tax bill, the penalty is moot.

Gotta have a bank account to get ACA / OC.. fees and penalties will be deducted by the government.. did a GIS.. citation is there....


If you don't make enough to file a tax return - about $10,000 - you don't have to pay a penalty.

If you do make enough money and don't pay the penalty, the IRS is specifically not permitted to collect it except by withholding part of your refund. They aren't allowed to charge anything extra on top either.

The key to understanding the situation is that the people who wrote the act were sane and reasonable and not out to get you.

"Taxpayers who are required to pay a penalty but fail to do so will receive a notice from Internal 
Revenue Service (IRS) stating that they owe the penalty. If they still do not pay the penalty, the 
IRS can attempt to collect the funds by reducing the amount of their tax refund in the future. 
However, individuals who fail to pay the penalty will not be subject to any criminal prosecution 
or penalty for such failure. The Secretary of Treasury cannot file notice of lien or file a levy on 
any property for a taxpayer who does not pay the penalty "

Quote from:  http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41331.pdf
 
2013-10-02 07:31:23 AM  

pdee: Stig O'Tracy: I see absolutely no difference as compared to the individual mandate that all US citizens be required to purchase catastrophic health insurance, to protect your fellow citizens from expenses you may be responsible for in case of accident.

You don't have to own or drive a car.  Suicide is against the law.

Not the same thing.


The requirement that you buy health insurance is no more onerous than the income tax system in the first place, because the penalty doesn't apply unless you are required to file a tax return.

You are in fact not required to pay a tax on breathing - that's just a paranoid fantasy being repeated by paranoid people.
 
2013-10-02 07:53:03 AM  

fatbear: Stig O'Tracy:


...if you want the privilege of driving your car in America, you must buy collision insurance..[...]


If you want the privilege of _____ in America, you must purchase catastrophic health insurance...[...]

THEY ARE THE SAME THING.

Please fill in the blank.



Healthcare?
 
2013-10-02 08:11:49 AM  
Wyalt Derp:

Please fill in the blank.


Healthcare?


That would be nice, but it doesn't work that way (and won't any time soon)

If you go to the ER for a *real* emergency, nobody checks your insurance status before they treat you. You get the healthcare even if you don't have the insurance. That's not going to change in the foreseeable future.
 
2013-10-02 03:34:04 PM  
itcamefromschenectady: If you don't make enough to file a tax return - about $10,000 - you don't have to pay a penalty.
If you do make enough money and don't pay the penalty, the IRS is specifically not permitted to collect it except by withholding part of your refund. They aren't allowed to charge anything extra on top either.
"Taxpayers who are required to pay a penalty but fail to do so will receive a notice from Internal 
Revenue Service (IRS) stating that they owe the penalty. If they still do not pay the penalty, the 
IRS can attempt to collect the funds by reducing the amount of their tax refund in the future. 
However, individuals who fail to pay the penalty will not be subject to any criminal prosecution 
or penalty for such failure. The Secretary of Treasury cannot file notice of lien or file a levy on 
any property for a taxpayer who does not pay the penalty "
Quote from:  http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41331.pdf


That "glitch" will be fixed in a few months so they can get the money government rightly deserves.
 
2013-10-02 06:11:06 PM  

SnapeShots: i
That "glitch" will be fixed in a few months so they can get the money government rightly deserves.


There is no glitch. They withhold the money from your tax refund. If you don't make any money, they'll just wait until you do.

They're not actually forcing you to buy anything, or pay a single penny if you don't already have to file an income tax return.
 
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