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(Daily Mail)   Anthony Bourdain upsets the entire state of New Mexico after describing their Frito pie as a 'colostomy pie' and then claiming it's really a Texas dish   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 105
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2013-10-01 01:42:22 PM

Calmamity: Foxxinnia: Wait, I'm from New Mexico and I've never heard that Frito Pie was a New Mexico thing. We already have green chile. Why would we even want to claim the half-assed dish that is frito pie?

It's really more of a quirky tradition specific to the Santa Fe Plaza. Bourdain is talking out his ass.


He often does this half-ass skimming of a place he visits.  He has a few contacts and then rides whatever they have to say.  I say this liking the guy a lot, but, for example, his Berlin show was horribly disappointing.  He seemed to have no sense of Germany or Berlin beyond Dieter and Sprockets, and it showed, and he spent way too much time with some schlubby full-time diplomat from Britain.
 
2013-10-01 01:45:30 PM

Mateorocks: I can't seem to find the chili-cheese flavored Fritos anywhere these days. That's a shame.


I thought these were amazing. You're right, they did disappear. Total shame.
 
2013-10-01 01:46:28 PM

aszure: Mateorocks: I can't seem to find the chili-cheese flavored Fritos anywhere these days. That's a shame.

[bigboyconcessions.co image 361x504]

Check over in the snack section where stuff is packaged in tubes and cans rather than bags. You'll find (or least I did here in FL) a plethora of these:


Do want!
 
2013-10-01 01:48:04 PM

karmaceutical: We've passed peak-Bourdain long ago, methinks.


This x infinity
 
2013-10-01 01:55:43 PM

costermonger: On a semi-related note, as much as CNN provides ample evidence that they really don't know what the hell they're doing, they don't appear to be messing with Bourdain's show. I haven't seen the New Mexico episode yet, but the others come off as a more mature version of No Reservations.

And I really, really want to go to Granada.


I'm with you there.  In fact, every travel show I've seen that's involved Spain or Portugal has made me really, really, want to visit.
 
2013-10-01 01:57:57 PM

minoridiot: For some reason New Mexico thing that it is a native dish because some one started serving it in the 1960's.  But since there are articles in Texas newspapers going back to the 1940's with the recipe, I'm going to have to say it is a Texas invention.


Nobody cares really, people from PA and NJ argue all the time whether pork roll (aka "Taylor Ham") is a PA or NJ dish/invention.

Who the fark cares? It's delicious, it's like bacon and ham had a baby.

/I wonder what his opinion of Scrapple is
 
2013-10-01 02:03:37 PM

shortymac: minoridiot: For some reason New Mexico thing that it is a native dish because some one started serving it in the 1960's.  But since there are articles in Texas newspapers going back to the 1940's with the recipe, I'm going to have to say it is a Texas invention.

Nobody cares really, people from PA and NJ argue all the time whether pork roll (aka "Taylor Ham") is a PA or NJ dish/invention.

Who the fark cares? It's delicious, it's like bacon and ham had a baby.

/I wonder what his opinion of Scrapple is


I can't recall if he's ever done a show with it, I'm sure he probably has, but it seems like something that would be up his alley, he seems to always appreciate things made with organ meats, sausages of various types, and blood sausage, so scrapple would fit in well.

Also, getting a kick out of this post, I just had a scrapple and egg sandwich for lunch.
 
2013-10-01 02:06:37 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Calmamity: Foxxinnia: Wait, I'm from New Mexico and I've never heard that Frito Pie was a New Mexico thing. We already have green chile. Why would we even want to claim the half-assed dish that is frito pie?

It's really more of a quirky tradition specific to the Santa Fe Plaza. Bourdain is talking out his ass.

He often does this half-ass skimming of a place he visits.  He has a few contacts and then rides whatever they have to say.  I say this liking the guy a lot, but, for example, his Berlin show was horribly disappointing.  He seemed to have no sense of Germany or Berlin beyond Dieter and Sprockets, and it showed, and he spent way too much time with some schlubby full-time diplomat from Britain.


I'm not one to criticize (teehee), but expecting him to know the ins & outs of every country he visits is a bit absurd. If anything, place the blame on the guides.
 
2013-10-01 02:09:34 PM
CygnusDarius/It's like calling these a delicacy

That does look delicious though.
 
2013-10-01 02:11:34 PM
At his next stop in the state, somebody should give him the genuine warm crap in a bag so he'll know the difference.
 
2013-10-01 02:22:26 PM

Johnsnownw: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Calmamity: Foxxinnia: Wait, I'm from New Mexico and I've never heard that Frito Pie was a New Mexico thing. We already have green chile. Why would we even want to claim the half-assed dish that is frito pie?

It's really more of a quirky tradition specific to the Santa Fe Plaza. Bourdain is talking out his ass.

He often does this half-ass skimming of a place he visits.  He has a few contacts and then rides whatever they have to say.  I say this liking the guy a lot, but, for example, his Berlin show was horribly disappointing.  He seemed to have no sense of Germany or Berlin beyond Dieter and Sprockets, and it showed, and he spent way too much time with some schlubby full-time diplomat from Britain.

I'm not one to criticize (teehee), but expecting him to know the ins & outs of every country he visits is a bit absurd. If anything, place the blame on the guides.


Who picks the guides?  Who claims to be giving a good glimpse into the places he visits?
 
2013-10-01 02:22:47 PM

James!: It is a Texas dish.

I do two kinds.  One is traditional fritos, chili and cheese.  The other is a little fancier in that I replace the fritos with cornbread.


Yep, I'd never heard of it before I moved to San Antonio some years ago. I've long since moved away, but I still make one from time to time. It's awful junk but so damn good. If you really wanna die mix a frito pie with ramen noodles and velveeta to make the worlds most awfully awesome chili mac.

/I sound fat
//I'm not
///okay maybe a little
 
2013-10-01 02:34:46 PM
The Frito company started in San Antonio. I'd bet one of the first things done with it was Frito pie in that chili laden city. If fact, I'd bet the Frito chip was invented to eat chili.

The fact the idea wasn't printed on ads and bags since the beginning was just a lack of creativity in marketing.

farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2013-10-01 02:38:28 PM

basemetal: I thought green chillies was the New Mexico thing.


Maybe he should have used Green Chile Casserole on the show instead:

http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/green-chile-chicken-casserole-100000 00 550015/
 
2013-10-01 02:43:21 PM

Calmamity: Foxxinnia: Wait, I'm from New Mexico and I've never heard that Frito Pie was a New Mexico thing. We already have green chile. Why would we even want to claim the half-assed dish that is frito pie?

It's really more of a quirky tradition specific to the Santa Fe Plaza. Bourdain is talking out his ass.


Yep. The Plaza is nothing more than a tourist trap where out-of-staters get to experience what they believe to be "the simple grace and charm of old New Mexico, The Land of Enchantment."
 
2013-10-01 02:50:46 PM

offmymeds: Calmamity: Foxxinnia: Wait, I'm from New Mexico and I've never heard that Frito Pie was a New Mexico thing. We already have green chile. Why would we even want to claim the half-assed dish that is frito pie?

It's really more of a quirky tradition specific to the Santa Fe Plaza. Bourdain is talking out his ass.

Yep. The Plaza is nothing more than a tourist trap where out-of-staters get to experience what they believe to be "the simple grace and charm of old New Mexico, The Land of Enchantment."


Oh, puleeze. Marble Brewing is right next to the 5 and Dime, and their beer is excellent.
 
2013-10-01 02:51:21 PM

costermonger: On a semi-related note, as much as CNN provides ample evidence that they really don't know what the hell they're doing, they don't appear to be messing with Bourdain's show. I haven't seen the New Mexico episode yet, but the others come off as a more mature version of No Reservations.

And I really, really want to go to Granada.


Bourdain and his crew got pretty badly farked around by the Food Network years ago, so I'd imagine that his contract with CNN is such that he's basically independent and delivers the shows, which they then can chose to air or not air, but that they can't cut them
 
2013-10-01 03:00:01 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Who picks the guides?  Who claims to be giving a good glimpse into the places he visits?


No idea to your first question (probably the producers), but I never took No Reservations to be a travel show in the traditional sense, and I don't think it was ever claimed to be. He usually explored some aspect of some city, and if you were a broad view of a country, you probably weren't going to get it.

The CNN show doesn't seem to be as tightly focused this way - I don't get the impression there are going to be episodes of Parts Unknown that take place entirely within one neighborhood in one city, as happened from time to time on No Reservations - but it's better for this change, in my opinion.
 
2013-10-01 03:07:42 PM

Dwight_Yeast: costermonger: On a semi-related note, as much as CNN provides ample evidence that they really don't know what the hell they're doing, they don't appear to be messing with Bourdain's show. I haven't seen the New Mexico episode yet, but the others come off as a more mature version of No Reservations.

And I really, really want to go to Granada.

Bourdain and his crew got pretty badly farked around by the Food Network years ago, so I'd imagine that his contract with CNN is such that he's basically independent and delivers the shows, which they then can chose to air or not air, but that they can't cut them


Likely. I was just surprised by the bull-fighting scene in the Spain episode; Travel Channel never would've aired that in it's entirety.
 
2013-10-01 03:08:31 PM

basemetal: Bourdain described the southern delicacy

No, not delicacy.........concession stand food........

/and it has to have yellow mustard


also, not southern.
 
2013-10-01 03:31:18 PM
you are upset about Frito Pie??

really?

/have been craving Frito pie since I watched the episode
//love me some Tony Bordain
///Frito Pie is Texan, end of story
 
2013-10-01 03:39:43 PM
In Louisiana we call em Chili Fritos,   my mom says she remembers eating them in the 1950s.

I remember at gas stations, fairs, football games, you could get them, topped with lettuce, tomatoes, onions, chilli, cheese and jalepenos.
 
2013-10-01 04:05:40 PM

theflatline


I remember at gas stations, fairs, football games, you could get them, topped with lettuce, tomatoes, onions, chilli, cheese and jalepenos.


It sounds like some sour cream would go well with that.
 
2013-10-01 04:32:01 PM

DMZ DEATH: Mateorocks: I can't seem to find the chili-cheese flavored Fritos anywhere these days. That's a shame.

I thought these were amazing. You're right, they did disappear. Total shame.


There's some in the vending machine downstairs.

\Lives in Texas.
 
2013-10-01 04:35:48 PM

Maud Dib: DMZ DEATH: Mateorocks: I can't seem to find the chili-cheese flavored Fritos anywhere these days. That's a shame.

I thought these were amazing. You're right, they did disappear. Total shame.

There's some in the vending machine downstairs.

\Lives in Texas.


Yes you are right...there are some downstairs, but only three left.  I just bought one.
 
2013-10-01 04:51:13 PM

findthefish: Maud Dib: DMZ DEATH: Mateorocks: I can't seem to find the chili-cheese flavored Fritos anywhere these days. That's a shame.

I thought these were amazing. You're right, they did disappear. Total shame.

There's some in the vending machine downstairs.

\Lives in Texas.

Yes you are right...there are some downstairs, but only three left.  I just bought one.


You....bastards.....( shaking fist)
 
2013-10-01 05:27:39 PM
I lived in Dona Ana for years and this is first ive heard of this crap in bag called fritos pie. Id in no way claim this to be a New Mexico culinary delight. Id go with a nice Hatch Green Chile Relleno.
 
2013-10-01 05:31:12 PM

TuteTibiImperes: costermonger: On a semi-related note, as much as CNN provides ample evidence that they really don't know what the hell they're doing, they don't appear to be messing with Bourdain's show. I haven't seen the New Mexico episode yet, but the others come off as a more mature version of No Reservations.

And I really, really want to go to Granada.

I'm with you there.  In fact, every travel show I've seen that's involved Spain or Portugal has made me really, really, want to visit.


A couple of friends of mine go to Spain every year. They are crazy about that place. It's gorgeous and you get decent bang for your buck.
 
2013-10-01 05:33:40 PM

shortymac: minoridiot: For some reason New Mexico thing that it is a native dish because some one started serving it in the 1960's.  But since there are articles in Texas newspapers going back to the 1940's with the recipe, I'm going to have to say it is a Texas invention.

Nobody cares really, people from PA and NJ argue all the time whether pork roll (aka "Taylor Ham") is a PA or NJ dish/invention.

Who the fark cares? It's delicious, it's like bacon and ham had a baby.

/I wonder what his opinion of Scrapple is


My work "husband" is from NJ. He is always whining about how he can't get pork roll here. Frankly, it sounds pretty scrumptious. I would definitely give it a try.
 
2013-10-01 05:39:49 PM
We used to eat Frito pie for lunch in school when I was growing up in Austin. So healthy.
 
2013-10-01 05:57:58 PM
Getting closer to needing a BOURDAIN tag, mods.
 
2013-10-01 06:04:54 PM
Um, chucking together whatever's in the pantry and putting some meat in it is a  British tradition from the 1700s or earlier, it's called a Casserole.

Calling it something different and using modern pantry contents instead of an 18th century larder doesn't actually make it a new dish.
 
2013-10-01 06:14:26 PM
I first had Frito pie in the elementary school cafeteria. I tried to get mom to make it at home but she would just pat me on the head and give me a "later" response which I came to understand meant I am not feeding this family Frito Pie. Same with franks-n-beans

Mom took her cooking seriously.

I still like Frito Pie
 
2013-10-01 06:58:39 PM

James!: It is a Texas dish.

I do two kinds.  One is traditional fritos, chili and cheese.  The other is a little fancier in that I replace the fritos with cornbread.


had that for dinner sunday. good eating
 
2013-10-01 07:06:44 PM

Fark It: Anthony Bourdain's show is the only thing worth watching on CNN.


Sadly this.


GoodScout: Getting closer to needing a BOURDAIN tag, mods.


Not until we get the "Walken" tag back.
 
2013-10-01 07:07:40 PM
My Mom was from southern NM, and her version of Frito Pie was a little different.  It was called Taco Salad, and started with a bunch of Fritos on a plate, then layers of taco meat, refried beans, lettuce, diced tomatoes, onions, salsa, cheese, guacamole, and/or whatever else floated your boat.  I make it for my kids sometimes when I'm missing her...
 
2013-10-01 07:52:50 PM

Iggie: My Mom was from southern NM, and her version of Frito Pie was a little different.  It was called Taco Salad, and started with a bunch of Fritos on a plate, then layers of taco meat, refried beans, lettuce, diced tomatoes, onions, salsa, cheese, guacamole, and/or whatever else floated your boat.  I make it for my kids sometimes when I'm missing her...


I was going to say that this was called "taco salad" when I would have it at a friend's house as a kid (my mom would *never* "cook" like that so I never got it at home). It certainly isn't anything new and it didn't get called "New Mexico" or "Texas" either and wasn't served in a bag.
 
2013-10-01 08:11:46 PM
Frito Pie is disgusting.  Let Texas win this one.
 
2013-10-01 09:18:30 PM
Don't "pies" usually have a crust?

OK, so you can take an apple pie and scramble the hell out of it, and still get away with saying that you are eating apple pie, but at least the damned thing was created a certain way first. Otherwise, isn't it more of cobbler or a crumble or something?
 
2013-10-01 09:20:22 PM
 
2013-10-01 10:28:31 PM

Newbaca: Frito Pie is disgusting.  Let Texas win this one.


Texas already beats NM based on the barbeque and Tex Mex, Frito Pie is just another notch on the belt. Step your game up NM!
 
2013-10-01 11:31:09 PM
Good thing Bourdain didn't call them Mexican....So many in Santa Fe refer to themselves as "Spanish"
 
2013-10-01 11:41:01 PM

FormlessOne: Even Dean Winchester wouldn't eat that pie.


After the turducken slammer incident, I wouldn't put anything past him.
 
2013-10-01 11:53:21 PM

happydude45: minoridiot: For some reason New Mexico thing that it is a native dish because some one started serving it in the 1960's.  But since there are articles in Texas newspapers going back to the 1940's with the recipe, I'm going to have to say it is a Texas invention.

Yes, shortly after Fritos were invented in Dallas.


Frito-Lay may be headquartered in a Dallas suburb, but they were invented in San Antonio.
 
2013-10-02 12:45:19 AM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Frito Pie IS a Texas dish.  Frito's are from Dallas area.

But New Mexico doesn't need or want it.  Their stuff with green chiles is fantastic.  Enchaladas, tacos, whatever.  That's the state dish.


We love our green chiles so much that we even pour green chile sauce over green chile rellenos.
 
2013-10-02 02:00:22 AM

basemetal: I thought green chillies was the New Mexico thing.


No, New Mexico style has shards of blue Meth sprinkled on top.
 
2013-10-02 10:04:53 AM
Christ, if that's all it takes to get their panties in a knot, I want to see what happens when they send Gordon Ramsay down there to review the dish.

/"This is farking terrible"
//<State implodes>
 
2013-10-02 10:43:17 AM

TuteTibiImperes: shortymac: minoridiot: For some reason New Mexico thing that it is a native dish because some one started serving it in the 1960's.  But since there are articles in Texas newspapers going back to the 1940's with the recipe, I'm going to have to say it is a Texas invention.

Nobody cares really, people from PA and NJ argue all the time whether pork roll (aka "Taylor Ham") is a PA or NJ dish/invention.

Who the fark cares? It's delicious, it's like bacon and ham had a baby.

/I wonder what his opinion of Scrapple is

I can't recall if he's ever done a show with it, I'm sure he probably has, but it seems like something that would be up his alley, he seems to always appreciate things made with organ meats, sausages of various types, and blood sausage, so scrapple would fit in well.

Also, getting a kick out of this post, I just had a scrapple and egg sandwich for lunch.


Damn, I live in Canada now and I really want some!

I have to smuggle it back in the cooler every time.
 
2013-10-02 11:40:58 AM
he is correct
 
2013-10-02 02:40:59 PM

wildcardjack: The Frito company started in San Antonio. I'd bet one of the first things done with it was Frito pie in that chili laden city. If fact, I'd bet the Frito chip was invented to eat chili.

The fact the idea wasn't printed on ads and bags since the beginning was just a lack of creativity in marketing.

[farm3.staticflickr.com image 502x640]


I'm curious why that package says Bethesda, MD. Wiki was no help.
 
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