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(Daily Mail)   Good news: Scientists may have found a way to stop us from eating too much. Bad News: It involves LASERS fired into your brain   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 43
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2013-10-01 11:09:59 AM
People have their stomachs stabled together. They have their jaws wired shut. I think I read something to do with tape worms once. There's nothing I won't believe people will do to make them put down the fork besides voluntarily putting down the fork.
 
2013-10-01 11:16:59 AM
Way to go, laser-brain.
 
2013-10-01 11:18:09 AM
Bet this'll end well...
 
2013-10-01 11:19:02 AM
Paging LasersHurt to the thread for his insights.
 
2013-10-01 11:21:29 AM
Americans are great at blowing shiat up and they are as fat as hell. It makes sense to start weaponizing their diet.
 
2013-10-01 11:22:12 AM
Are they the same lasers that the 'wellness clinic' near me advertises? You know the ones that increase blood flow and reduce pain and inflammation for 49.99 a session? I shouldn't complain though, if you get your ears candled and a reflexology session you get a package deal discount.
 
2013-10-01 11:23:58 AM
mtbhousingcorp.com

What's next, sharks?
 
2013-10-01 11:24:06 AM
First mice, next... sharks.
 
2013-10-01 11:24:12 AM

cgraves67: Way to go, laser-brain.


Laugh it up, Fuzzball.
 
2013-10-01 11:24:46 AM
Good ol' lasers. Is there anything they can't do?
 
2013-10-01 11:24:48 AM

divx88: What's next, sharks?


*shakes tiny laser fist*
 
2013-10-01 11:27:44 AM
A .44 to the brain would also make someone lose weight.
 
2013-10-01 11:27:45 AM
Then when they don't aim the laser correctly they will create glowing eyed zombies!  It's the beginning of the end!  Better stock up on Guns, machetes and Snicker's bars.
 
2013-10-01 11:29:41 AM

divx88: [mtbhousingcorp.com image 625x324]

What's next, sharks?


Yes but apparently the treatment will cost....1 million dollars!
 
2013-10-01 11:30:55 AM
images.alphacoders.com

Wot are we gonna do tonight bwain?

The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try some to get some decent takeout food! Pinky! Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

I think so bwain. But what if Tim Hortons doesn't make a fettuccine Alfredo crueler?
 
2013-10-01 11:30:57 AM
I'm giving 5:1 odds that this turns into a fatty thread vs. a lasers thread.
 
2013-10-01 11:32:43 AM

The Smails Kid: I'm giving 5:1 odds that this turns into a fatty thread vs. a lasers thread.


"Go be lasers somewhere else." ?
 
2013-10-01 11:32:48 AM
Who's that? Flying at the speed of light?
Who's that? Full of might and out of sight?
When Apex City's getting fat,
He'll zap their brains and that is that!
Captain Laserbeam,
Captain Laserbeam!

"Must... resist.. temptation of cookies...
must use...  LASER WILLPOWER!"
 
2013-10-01 11:33:34 AM

Egoy3k: Are they the same lasers that the 'wellness clinic' near me advertises? You know the ones that increase blood flow and reduce pain and inflammation for 49.99 a session? I shouldn't complain though, if you get your ears candled and a reflexology session you get a package deal discount.


Reflexology works. I once walked barefoot across the gravel road on a camping and I needed a clean pair of pants because my intestines relaxed, CPR because my heart went of rhythm but on the plus side, my lungs cleared up and my head aches disappeared.
 
2013-10-01 11:33:35 AM
Whops the laser slipped.
 
2013-10-01 11:35:29 AM

Mugato: People have their stomachs stabled together. They have their jaws wired shut. I think I read something to do with tape worms once. There's nothing I won't believe people will do to make them put down the fork besides voluntarily putting down the fork.




I don't think this is new information--the part in the article about stimulating part of the hypothalamus. Orexin/hypocretin has been understood to regulate energy and appetite. Narcoleptics, who don't make enough of it, have an increased rate of obesity and in my experience when treatment isn't working well I specifically crave really awful carbs, obsessively. I'm otherwise a very light, small portion eater.

Was really hoping this was super innovative information but I can't tell that it is in the Daily Fail article. Narcoleptics usually show damage to the hypothalamus in autopsies, so I'd say you can't just stimulate it into working again.

Back to hoping the government's interest in super soldiers with no need for sleep finds a way to administer hypocretin aside from daily spinal injections.
 
2013-10-01 11:40:17 AM

The Smails Kid: I'm giving 5:1 odds that this turns into a fatty thread vs. a lasers thread.


'Spalding, get your foot off the laser!'
 
2013-10-01 11:40:57 AM
How else are the blimp-seeking missiles supposed to lock-on?
 
2013-10-01 11:45:46 AM
Laser beam's like a sawed off dream
 
2013-10-01 11:53:20 AM
So, if confronted with sharks with laser-beams on their heads, all we have to do is reverse the beams and the sharks won't be hungry?
 
2013-10-01 11:53:25 AM

Fallout Boy: Americans are great at blowing shiat up and they are as fat as hell. It makes sense to start weaponizing their diet.


Hell, dude.  They already started that a long time ago.

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2013-10-01 11:58:27 AM

Mugato: People have their stomachs stabled together. They have their jaws wired shut. I think I read something to do with tape worms once. There's nothing I won't believe people will do to make them put down the fork besides voluntarily putting down the fork.


That tells me the problem with the brain, not the stomach. This procedure may actually work.
 
2013-10-01 11:59:01 AM
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2013-10-01 12:03:40 PM
www.wildsound-filmmaking-feedback-events.com

Similiar pic already in thread, but I felt it needed the air quotes.
 
2013-10-01 12:07:24 PM

BigNumber12: Paging LasersHurt to the thread for his insights.


I predict some... discomfort.
 
2013-10-01 12:08:13 PM

i.dailymail.co.uk"No, mister Bond: I expect you to DIET."

 
2013-10-01 12:10:20 PM
Well...no. The laser just shut off the mouses hunger reflex, so even though they were "hungry" they wouldn't eat.

Also the problem with most people is we enjoy eating. It stimulates feel-good chemicals and makes us happy. We usually eat socially which makes the experience even better. We eat when we are sad to boost our mood levels. None of this have anything to do with being hungry, so how would a laser that shuts off hunger response help?
 
2013-10-01 12:16:45 PM

Mugato: People have their stomachs stabled together. They have their jaws wired shut. I think I read something to do with tape worms once. There's nothing I won't believe people will do to make them put down the fork besides voluntarily putting down the fork.


Now there is the sound of externally projected self-loathing if ever there was one.

I'm not saying everyone who says "put down the fork, fatty!" sounds fat, but... you sound fat.
 
2013-10-01 12:23:18 PM
This technique is called optogenetics and each mice was in roughly 20-minute bursts.

/ftfa
//I think they accidentally something.
 
2013-10-01 12:31:47 PM
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2013-10-01 12:31:58 PM

semiotix: I'm not saying everyone who says "put down the fork, fatty!" sounds fat, but... you sound fat.


That's pretty funny.
 
2013-10-01 12:32:08 PM

hailin: Well...no. The laser just shut off the mouses hunger reflex, so even though they were "hungry" they wouldn't eat.

Also the problem with most people is we enjoy eating. It stimulates feel-good chemicals and makes us happy. We usually eat socially which makes the experience even better. We eat when we are sad to boost our mood levels. None of this have anything to do with being hungry, so how would a laser that shuts off hunger response help?


Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. I don't eat a whole big bag of chips or three slices of cake because i feel "hungry". They should try offering candy (or whatever the mouse equivalent would be) to the mice who've had their hunger turned off and see if they still won't eat. I bet they offered them lab blocks or whatever bland and horrible food they get all the time anyway. They could also try feeding the hungry mice and the non-hungry mice at the same time. Would some non-hungry mice just eat the food because they might not get a chance to later? Surely there's more to overeating than hunger?
 
2013-10-01 12:50:42 PM
www.technovelgy.com

/Is interested in this new research
 
2013-10-01 01:21:33 PM
Oh  .  .  .  so the NSA van in front of my house is helping with my diet?
Well that's a load off.
 
2013-10-01 02:39:04 PM

Jodeo: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x538]"No, mister Bond: I expect you to DIET."


WINNER.
 
2013-10-01 02:48:59 PM
Optogenetics is a very hot technique in neuroscience research. I have a lot of colleagues using it... Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets Karl Deisseroth &  Edward Boyden a Nobel some day.If you're interested in learning more, here are a few resources:

http://video.mit.edu/watch/optogenetics-controlling-the-brain-with-l ig ht-7659/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optogenetics

http://thebrainbank.scienceblog.com/2013/08/05/controlling-the-brain -w ith-light-where-are-we-at-with-optogenetics/
 
2013-10-01 05:27:43 PM
<looks in mirror at fatness>

Fire away, doc.
 
2013-10-01 08:00:47 PM

CrazyGerbilLady: hailin: Well...no. The laser just shut off the mouses hunger reflex, so even though they were "hungry" they wouldn't eat.

Also the problem with most people is we enjoy eating. It stimulates feel-good chemicals and makes us happy. We usually eat socially which makes the experience even better. We eat when we are sad to boost our mood levels. None of this have anything to do with being hungry, so how would a laser that shuts off hunger response help?

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. I don't eat a whole big bag of chips or three slices of cake because i feel "hungry". They should try offering candy (or whatever the mouse equivalent would be) to the mice who've had their hunger turned off and see if they still won't eat. I bet they offered them lab blocks or whatever bland and horrible food they get all the time anyway. They could also try feeding the hungry mice and the non-hungry mice at the same time. Would some non-hungry mice just eat the food because they might not get a chance to later? Surely there's more to overeating than hunger?



But if you are a human and not a mouse, and were actually making a conscious effort to eat less in an attempt to lose weight, taking the hunger part out of the equation may just make it that much easier to succeed. It does make it a lot easier to say 'no' to that delicious piece of cake if you are not hungry. Hunger is a strong and primitive motivator that is difficult to ignore.

To be honest, I only eat when I'm hungry, but I'm still fat. It could be that I get hungry more than thin people. It seems logical to me that hunger manifests itself differently in different people, and it's pretty darn difficult to accurately assess how hungry you feel, as opposed to how hungry I feel. Maybe for thin people it is a small niggly thing that is easily ignored, whereas to others it is more powerful and inclined to invade your every thought until it is sated.

All I know is if you can ignore feeling hungry, then you don't feel hungry the same way I do.
 
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