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2013-10-01 07:56:53 AM  
I thought they already won...
 
2013-10-01 07:57:50 AM  
Lesson to Republicans: When you court power by telling stupid, angry people how smart they are, eventually they're going to believe you and insist on their "right" to run everything.
 
2013-10-01 08:00:44 AM  

Aristocles: The so-called "Tea Party" are just a bunch of politicians now



You mean like a party of politicians?
 
2013-10-01 08:01:49 AM  
Tea Party is like winning the Special Olympics.
 
2013-10-01 08:02:30 AM  
Something about tigers.
 
2013-10-01 08:02:53 AM  
Boehner has to let them put the fork in the electrical socket or it goes on in perpetuity. They can't blame any repercussions on not being conservative enough this time.
 
2013-10-01 08:03:04 AM  
fta Boehner is in a bind. But it's a bind of the tea party's making.


Yeah, that'll happen when you're bad at your job.
 
2013-10-01 08:05:05 AM  

Aristocles: There's no such thing as the "Tea Party"

The so-called "Tea Party" are just a bunch of politicians now. So far, only a handful have even attempted to make good on their promises to bring economic stability back to the U.S.


And, yet, dumbocrats had them pegged from the start. What's more probable, that us libs have some sort of mystical powers to see into the future or that it's been obvious since 2008 to all but the willfully ignorant that these idiots never intended to do anything but wreck the place?
 
2013-10-01 08:05:09 AM  
Shooting your foot with a bazooka isn't exactly 'winning.'
 
2013-10-01 08:05:40 AM  

hinten: Aristocles: The so-called "Tea Party" are just a bunch of politicians now


You mean like a party of politicians?


To be fair the original tea party that started up in 2009 had more in common with the occupy movement than with the tea party we see today. In fact, if the occupy folks and the tea party had only realized they were each a side on the same coin the country would be a different place.
 
2013-10-01 08:05:51 AM  
I'd love for twenty-odd Republicans to get so sick of this crap and change party affiliation to Independent, elect Pelosi as speaker, and ram a crapload of moderate, centrist bills through the system.
 
2013-10-01 08:07:02 AM  

Aristocles: There's no such thing as the "Tea Party"

The so-called "Tea Party" are just a bunch of politicians now. So far, only a handful have even attempted to make good on their promises to bring economic stability back to the U.S.


Where stability == shut down everything.

/no one wins.
 
2013-10-01 08:08:34 AM  

stratagos: I'd love for twenty-odd Republicans to get so sick of this crap and change party affiliation to Independent, elect Pelosi as speaker, and ram a crapload of moderate, centrist bills through the system.


Dream big if you're going to dream, I say.
 
2013-10-01 08:09:16 AM  

NeverDrunk23: Shooting your foot with a bazooka isn't exactly 'winning.'


What, the Tea Party? Are you kidding me? These sorts of childish shenanigans play great in Peoria. Bear in mind that most of these dolts got elected in the first place by beating out moderate republicans and conservative democrats in their primaries by attacking them for compromising and accomplishing things for their districts even if it meant they didn't everything they'd like.

They're doing exactly what a sliver of "Real America" elected them to do: burn everything to the ground. Because if they can't have everything they want nobody can have anything even if they need it.
 
2013-10-01 08:10:58 AM  

stratagos: I'd love for twenty-odd Republicans to get so sick of this crap and change party affiliation to Independent, elect Pelosi as speaker, and ram a crapload of moderate, centrist bills through the system.


From what I remember from my government lessons, the House can dismiss any member of the House of Representatives with a 2/3rds majority vote.

If you're going to dream, dream of the non-Tea Derping GOP and the Democrats uniting to dismiss the 49 member Tea Derper Caucus for consistently undermining the functioning of our elected government.
 
2013-10-01 08:11:39 AM  

chasd00: To be fair the original tea party that started up in 2009 had more in common with the occupy movement than with the tea party we see today.


Ron Paul's little shindig got virtually no attention until he lost control of it. For all intents and purposes the "original" Tea Party was just a historical blip that did virtually nothing except lend its name to what became the Tea Party we know today.
 
2013-10-01 08:11:43 AM  

farker99: stratagos: I'd love for twenty-odd Republicans to get so sick of this crap and change party affiliation to Independent, elect Pelosi as speaker, and ram a crapload of moderate, centrist bills through the system.

Dream big if you're going to dream, I say.


Oh I'm well aware that there isn't a chance in hell of this happening, but the shaudenfreude would be so very, very tasty...
 
2013-10-01 08:12:10 AM  

skozlaw: NeverDrunk23: Shooting your foot with a bazooka isn't exactly 'winning.'

What, the Tea Party? Are you kidding me? These sorts of childish shenanigans play great in Peoria. Bear in mind that most of these dolts got elected in the first place by beating out moderate republicans and conservative democrats in their primaries by attacking them for compromising and accomplishing things for their districts even if it meant they didn't everything they'd like.

They're doing exactly what a sliver of "Real America" elected them to do: burn everything to the ground. Because if they can't have everything they want nobody can have anything even if they need it.


True. Funny though that a Tea party win always hurts the tea party the most.
 
2013-10-01 08:12:43 AM  

stratagos: I'd love for twenty-odd Republicans to get so sick of this crap and change party affiliation to Independent, elect Pelosi as speaker, and ram a crapload of moderate, centrist bills through the system.




This. If nothing else, we'll get to watch all the Pelosi hating whargarble.
 
2013-10-01 08:13:57 AM  

Notabunny: fta Boehner is in a bind. But it's a bind of the tea party's making.


Yeah, that'll happen when you're bad at your job.


It's hard to make good choices when you're perpetually hung over. I'd hate to be Boehner's liver this morning.
 
2013-10-01 08:18:25 AM  
Sorry, Lib-U-Lardos - the Tea Party now owns your Communist asses.
 
2013-10-01 08:20:38 AM  

Aristocles: chasd00: hinten: Aristocles: The so-called "Tea Party" are just a bunch of politicians now


You mean like a party of politicians?

To be fair the original tea party that started up in 2009 had more in common with the occupy movement than with the tea party we see today. In fact, if the occupy folks and the tea party had only realized they were each a side on the same coin the country would be a different place.

As a right-wing Libertarian, I could have gotten on board with an Occupy/Tea Party Collabo


I think it could have gone down well so long as you had people who were willing to negotiate in good faith, and not just engage in an ideological circular argument.

At some point the failure of Congress comes down to electing the entirely wrong types of people to Congress, on top of whatever belief system they profess for running (or in some cases, not running) the government.
 
2013-10-01 08:21:27 AM  

chasd00: hinten: Aristocles: The so-called "Tea Party" are just a bunch of politicians now


You mean like a party of politicians?

To be fair the original tea party that started up in 2009 had more in common with the occupy movement than with the tea party we see today. In fact, if the occupy folks and the tea party had only realized they were each a side on the same coin the country would be a different place.


I don't remember the occupy movement as a gathering of antique racists hellbent on carrying out Fox News' orders that the Blah man be eliminated because Take My Country Back... I think the Occupiers were rallying against corruption and greed.
 
2013-10-01 08:22:14 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Sorry, Lib-U-Lardos - the Tea Party now owns your Communist asses.


I'm thinking it's the other way around, Bizarro.
 
2013-10-01 08:22:29 AM  
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2013-10-01 08:23:02 AM  
Are talking in the Charlie Sheen sense of the word here?

i293.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-01 08:24:24 AM  
the TeaTardican threat to have us default-- if successful-- will push us into socialism far more than anything Obama or any other elected 'libbylibwhoeverlived' has ever proposed, let alone enacted.
 
2013-10-01 08:25:42 AM  

Leader O'Cola: the TeaTardican threat to have us default-- if successful-- will push us into socialism far more than anything Obama or any other elected 'libbylibwhoeverlived' has ever proposed, let alone enacted.


Shhh, don't tell them that... They think they've won.
 
2013-10-01 08:27:25 AM  
Watching this mess unfold, I've been trying to decide whether it's just a cruel irony that the only political group with the backbone to fully stand up for their beliefs also have the most low-information supporters or if it's an inherent part of our political system. At the moment I'm going with it being an inevitable consequence of two party politics.
 
2013-10-01 08:28:50 AM  

The Numbers: Watching this mess unfold, I've been trying to decide whether it's just a cruel irony that the only political group with the backbone to fully stand up for their beliefs also have the most low-information supporters or if it's an inherent part of our political system. At the moment I'm going with it being an inevitable consequence of two party politics.


It's not "backbone." It's "disconnection from the way the world works."
 
2013-10-01 08:29:46 AM  

The Numbers: Watching this mess unfold, I've been trying to decide whether it's just a cruel irony that the only political group with the backbone to fully stand up for their beliefs also have the most low-information supporters or if it's an inherent part of our political system. At the moment I'm going with it being an inevitable consequence of two party politics.


"Blind Stupidity" is more accurate.
 
2013-10-01 08:29:52 AM  

markfara: The Numbers: Watching this mess unfold, I've been trying to decide whether it's just a cruel irony that the only political group with the backbone to fully stand up for their beliefs also have the most low-information supporters or if it's an inherent part of our political system. At the moment I'm going with it being an inevitable consequence of two party politics.

It's not "backbone." It's "disconnection from the way the world works."


And 'spite'.  You can't forget 'bitter spite' at being beaten in the last few election cycles.
 
2013-10-01 08:30:01 AM  
I am not sure how much he realizes this, but the shutdown could be a real a win-win for Boehner.
If Obama caves, then Boehner gets to claim victory.
If this thing backfires, then Boehner could use this loss to hang the Tea Party.

I doubt he has the balls and strategic thinking to really act on this, but if he could turn this around on them really easily.
 
2013-10-01 08:31:33 AM  

MrBallou: Notabunny: fta Boehner is in a bind. But it's a bind of the tea party's making.


Yeah, that'll happen when you're bad at your job.

It's hard to make good choices when you're perpetually hung over. I'd hate to be Boehner's liver this morning.


Just thought of that line from Hasselhoff's roast: his liver's so black and bloated it's probably auditioning for the understudy of Precious.
 
2013-10-01 08:32:03 AM  

blastoh: I am not sure how much he realizes this, but the shutdown could be a real a win-win for Boehner.
If Obama caves, then Boehner gets to claim victory.
If this thing backfires, then Boehner could use this loss to hang the Tea Party.

I doubt he has the balls and strategic thinking to really act on this, but if he could turn this around on them really easily.


Obama won't cave.  The polls already show that a vast majority of Americans are blaming the GOP for this.  Not the TP.  The GOP.

Boehner is screwed.  The longer this goes on, the more people are going to get angry, but if he calls an end to it, the TP will set fire to everything and primary everyone in the GOP.
 
2013-10-01 08:32:14 AM  

The Numbers: Watching this mess unfold, I've been trying to decide whether it's just a cruel irony that the only political group with the backbone to fully stand up for their beliefs also have the most low-information supporters or if it's an inherent part of our political system. At the moment I'm going with it being an inevitable consequence of two party politics.


I think it's the overly simplistic nature of the beliefs more than the two-party system itself.
 
2013-10-01 08:34:27 AM  

Infernalist: blastoh: I am not sure how much he realizes this, but the shutdown could be a real a win-win for Boehner.
If Obama caves, then Boehner gets to claim victory.
If this thing backfires, then Boehner could use this loss to hang the Tea Party.

I doubt he has the balls and strategic thinking to really act on this, but if he could turn this around on them really easily.

Obama won't cave.  The polls already show that a vast majority of Americans are blaming the GOP for this.  Not the TP.  The GOP.

Boehner is screwed.  The longer this goes on, the more people are going to get angry, but if he calls an end to it, the TP will set fire to everything and primary everyone in the GOP.


Doesn't matter who the public blames in opinion polls if people don't show up come election time.
 
2013-10-01 08:34:33 AM  
The Tea Party is winning against the Republicans

These shenanigans might not cost Republicans any seats in the House.  Shutting will make it very hard for Republicans to take the Senate.  Wasn't there talk of Republicans taking the Senate a couple months ago?  Will this make 3 elections where Teabaggers screw up taking control of all of Congress?  Just imaging what Teabaggers could be "accomplishing" now had they just shown a little restraint.
 
2013-10-01 08:34:48 AM  

Infernalist: The polls already show that a vast majority of Americans are blaming the GOP for this. Not the TP. The GOP.


But I have been assured repeatedly that the TP/GOP represent the overwhelming majority of Americans!
 
2013-10-01 08:35:45 AM  

blastoh: I am not sure how much he realizes this, but the shutdown could be a real a win-win for Boehner.
If Obama caves, then Boehner gets to claim victory.
If this thing backfires, then Boehner could use this loss to hang the Tea Party.

I doubt he has the balls and strategic thinking to really act on this, but if he could turn this around on them really easily.


All Boner cares about is a tanning bed and a scotch.
 
2013-10-01 08:37:51 AM  

qorkfiend: Infernalist: blastoh: I am not sure how much he realizes this, but the shutdown could be a real a win-win for Boehner.
If Obama caves, then Boehner gets to claim victory.
If this thing backfires, then Boehner could use this loss to hang the Tea Party.

I doubt he has the balls and strategic thinking to really act on this, but if he could turn this around on them really easily.

Obama won't cave.  The polls already show that a vast majority of Americans are blaming the GOP for this.  Not the TP.  The GOP.

Boehner is screwed.  The longer this goes on, the more people are going to get angry, but if he calls an end to it, the TP will set fire to everything and primary everyone in the GOP.

Doesn't matter who the public blames in opinion polls if people don't show up come election time.


At this moment, you would be correct.  And were this happening 20 years ago, you could be reliably sure that the population would have largely forgotten this mess by November of the following year.

However, this isn't 20 years ago.  This is 2013 and we have youtube and google and wiki and a thousand and one streaming databases and news sites that store stuff 'forever.'

The anger toward the Derpers and the GOP is here and alive and all that needs doing is simply stoking it for a few months.

Thankfully, the GOP and the TP are both immensely retarded and will help the Democrats by continuing to be asshats way into 2014.
 
2013-10-01 08:38:39 AM  

The Numbers: Watching this mess unfold, I've been trying to decide whether it's just a cruel irony that the only political group with the backbone to fully stand up for their beliefs also have the most low-information supporters or if it's an inherent part of our political system. At the moment I'm going with it being an inevitable consequence of two party politics.


It's not backbone when you think that the only reason that you haven't repealed Obamacare is because you aren't trying hard enough. It's confusing real life with the Green Lantern Corps.
 
2013-10-01 08:39:45 AM  

NeverDrunk23: skozlaw: NeverDrunk23: Shooting your foot with a bazooka isn't exactly 'winning.'

What, the Tea Party? Are you kidding me? These sorts of childish shenanigans play great in Peoria. Bear in mind that most of these dolts got elected in the first place by beating out moderate republicans and conservative democrats in their primaries by attacking them for compromising and accomplishing things for their districts even if it meant they didn't everything they'd like.

They're doing exactly what a sliver of "Real America" elected them to do: burn everything to the ground. Because if they can't have everything they want nobody can have anything even if they need it.

True. Funny though that a Tea party win always hurts the tea party the most.


They're none too bright.
 
2013-10-01 08:40:02 AM  
talkingpointsmemo.com
 
2013-10-01 08:42:23 AM  

InmanRoshi: [talkingpointsmemo.com image 550x602]


Funny thing is, that would be true even if their Congressional pay was deferred until a budget was worked out.  Not that it would matter to the Teahadists.  Some men just want to see the world burn.
 
2013-10-01 08:42:24 AM  
 
2013-10-01 08:44:14 AM  

InmanRoshi: [talkingpointsmemo.com image 550x602]


I had to look it up, but it makes me happy that's real.
 
2013-10-01 08:44:27 AM  

The Numbers: Watching this mess unfold, I've been trying to decide whether it's just a cruel irony that the only political group with the backbone to fully stand up for their beliefs also have the most low-information supporters or if it's an inherent part of our political system. At the moment I'm going with it being an inevitable consequence of two party politics.


It's not exclusive to politics.  High degrees of ignorance often go hand in hand with high degrees of certitude.
 
2013-10-01 08:45:55 AM  

InmanRoshi: [talkingpointsmemo.com image 550x602]


that's great.
 
2013-10-01 08:46:32 AM  

InmanRoshi: As Washington enters yet another fiscal battle, the poll found more Americans backing President Obama than Republicans on Capitol Hill. Fifty-five percent said gridlock is due to the GOP's determination to block any of Obama's proposals, while just 33 percent blame the president's lack of skill. Majorities said they trust Obama more than congressional Republicans on helping low income families and helping the middle class, while pluralities trust the president over the GOP on health care and the economy.


Then God save me, I agree with Boehner.  It's time for the Congress to listen to the American people!
 
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