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(Wisconsin Gazette)   Even before they awoke and found the national parks closed, citizens angry at the federal government had reached a Pew Research center high   (wisconsingazette.com) divider line 344
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2013-10-01 08:35:11 AM
fourchetteetmicrosillon.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-01 09:06:39 AM
And Google is trolling with the doodle
 
2013-10-01 09:35:49 AM
I got my hair cut by a VERY angry barber last night.

Wowswer.  For a moment there I thought she was going to scalp me and mail it to her Congressman.  Had to talk her down before we could get to the sideburns as they were a little close to some major arteries.
 
2013-10-01 09:38:44 AM
1) Say government doesn't work
2) Get elected
3) Make sure government doesn't work
4) Profit

Good work, conservatives. You proved your point. All you had to do was threaten the financial stability of the United States. You should be proud.
 
2013-10-01 09:40:13 AM

Car_Ramrod: 1) Say government doesn't work
2) Get elected
3) Make sure government doesn't work
4) Profit

Good work, conservatives. You proved your point. All you had to do was threaten the financial stability of the United States. You should be proud.


Oh you almost got me you magnificent troll you.
 
2013-10-01 09:40:44 AM
"Liberal Democrats were angrier with the federal government in October 2006, during the Bush administration ..."

Ahhh....this was when Michelle was not proud to be an American.

She is pleased now though.
 
2013-10-01 09:41:03 AM
And yet all those responsible for this massive over spending are still getting paid.
 
2013-10-01 09:41:47 AM
If you live in the NE you might have never even stepped foot in a federal park, even if you are a big hiker.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-10-01 09:41:57 AM
I wish they'd refine "Congress" to "those butthole republicans".
 
2013-10-01 09:42:15 AM

Car_Ramrod: 1) Say government doesn't work
2) Get elected
3) Make sure government doesn't work
4) Profit


www.lionking.org
And that, son, is how you get re-elected.
 
2013-10-01 09:43:40 AM
Not conservative enough?  Is that what 41% thinks?  Well prepare for more dysfunction.
 
2013-10-01 09:43:50 AM

netcentric: "Liberal Democrats were angrier with the federal government in October 2006, during the Bush administration ..."


that was when Iraq was at it's worst, not sure how old you are you might not remember it. I can't believe that was 7 years ago! some farkers could have been like 13 during that time!
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-01 09:44:19 AM
There is too much liberal vs. conservative in that article.  There are plenty of us that don't care about that, but care about how far both "sides" go in ass kissing their corporate buddies.
 
2013-10-01 09:44:52 AM

Car_Ramrod: 1) Say government doesn't work
2) Get elected
3) Make sure government doesn't work
4) Profit

Good work, conservatives. You proved your point. All you had to do was threaten the financial stability of the United States. You should be proud.


Why dont they just deem the budget passed in some bs reconcilliation process.
 
2013-10-01 09:45:41 AM
You elect the government you deserve. Why is our self esteem so low?
 
2013-10-01 09:48:29 AM

Headso: If you live in the NE you might have never even stepped foot in a federal park, even if you are a big hiker.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x653]


I just got back from a 4 day trip through Ariz/NM with my son and visited about a dozen parks, mostly grand canyon.  Beat the shutdown by a day.   If the grand canyon is truely shutting down then I can tell you that there are a few thousand angry German and Chinese tourist getting very pissed off as we speak.  Well, I guess the Navajo shops will keep them busy for a few days on "art" and frybread.
 
rpm
2013-10-01 09:49:39 AM

Magruda: You elect the government you deserve. Why is our self esteem so low?


You're assuming the government is validly elected. See: Gerrymandering.
 
2013-10-01 09:49:56 AM

orclover: If the grand canyon is truely shutting down

...

Yep, they're putting the big pool-cover back on.
 
2013-10-01 09:53:08 AM

Vtimlin: Car_Ramrod: 1) Say government doesn't work
2) Get elected
3) Make sure government doesn't work
4) Profit

Good work, conservatives. You proved your point. All you had to do was threaten the financial stability of the United States. You should be proud.

Why dont they just deem the budget passed in some bs reconcilliation process.


Because that still requires an up/down vote in both houses.  It's enough to side step a fillibuster but not the opposition of one of the two congressional chambers.
 
2013-10-01 09:53:36 AM

rpm: Magruda: You elect the government you deserve. Why is our self esteem so low?

You're assuming the government is validly elected. See: Gerrymandering.


Why then would a democracy allow gerrymandering to happen?
 
2013-10-01 09:53:49 AM

bopis: Car_Ramrod: 1) Say government doesn't work
2) Get elected
3) Make sure government doesn't work
4) Profit

Good work, conservatives. You proved your point. All you had to do was threaten the financial stability of the United States. You should be proud.

Oh you almost got me you magnificent troll you.


Which part is wrong? I'm sure having our national credit rating drop is no big deal. Neither is stopping spending when growth is already anemic. Yep, no way will our country be negatively affected by these shenanigans.

And if you're suggesting the right-wing isn't sabotaging the government on purpose, I'd like to point out I'm the wallet inspector for your particular region, so you should send it right over.
 
2013-10-01 09:54:45 AM
Where is budget genius Paul Ryan?
 
2013-10-01 09:54:45 AM

brap: I got my hair cut by a VERY angry barber last night.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-01 09:55:53 AM

Magruda: rpm: Magruda: You elect the government you deserve. Why is our self esteem so low?

You're assuming the government is validly elected. See: Gerrymandering.

Why then would a democracy allow gerrymandering to happen?


It's been an issue since the nation's birth.  Neither side wants to do anything about it because both sides use it extensively after each census report.
 
2013-10-01 09:56:41 AM
So kids, we now know how the insane shiat that we read in the history books happen.

No more do you have to try to comprehend and say to yourself, "How could they let this happen?"

You now are experiencing it first hand.

/enjoy the ride
 
2013-10-01 09:56:50 AM
Some notable closings and partial closings with number of people furloughed...

Closed

EEOC - 2,057
FCC - 1,716
Export/Import Bank of the United States - 392
Federal Trade Commission - 893
National Science Foundation - 1,700
Smithsonian - 3,514

partially open

Department of Veterans Affairs - 14,224
Civilian military workers - 400,000
Department of Interior - 58,765
Department of Justice - 17,742
Department of Labor - 13,350
Department of Commerce - 40,234
Department of Homeland Security - 31.295
EPA - 15,136
IRS - 85,764
Treasury - 997
Social Security Administration - 18,006
NASA  - 17,883
 
2013-10-01 09:59:00 AM
I wonder how many House Republicans bought straddles a few days ago...
 
2013-10-01 09:59:24 AM
17% think that everything's fine. Who the **** are those people?
 
2013-10-01 10:00:02 AM

Infernalist: Magruda: rpm: Magruda: You elect the government you deserve. Why is our self esteem so low?

You're assuming the government is validly elected. See: Gerrymandering.

Why then would a democracy allow gerrymandering to happen?

It's been an issue since the nation's birth.  Neither side wants to do anything about it because both sides use it extensively after each census report.


It would also be a hard problem to solve purely from a mathematical perspective.  How do you draw districts that are "compact" in a logical way?  It's easy to define the problem: "Find district boundaries with a minimum total length that divide a state's population equally into N districts.", but solving that is a difficult global optimization problem.
 
2013-10-01 10:01:14 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: I wonder how many House Republicans bought straddles a few days ago...


Sounds like fun.
 
2013-10-01 10:01:31 AM

olddeegee: 17% think that everything's fine. Who the **** are those people?


Do you remember the last shutdown?  A few people stay home from work, for a couple weeks, and get back paid when they show back up again.  Nothing earth shattering isn't getting anything more than a delay.  Breach the debt ceiling and we may be talking about some real problems, but this is relatively small potatoes.
 
2013-10-01 10:02:51 AM

nelsonal: Breach the debt ceiling and we may be talking about some real problems


Does anyone know when this will actually happen?  weeks? months?
 
2013-10-01 10:02:52 AM

Headso: If you live in the NE you might have never even stepped foot in a federal park, even if you are a big hiker.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x653]


I always thought it was wild that the federal government basically owns Nevada.
 
2013-10-01 10:05:07 AM
Honestly, the people angered by the whole government shut-down are those who benefit or expect to benefit from government activities. Federal parks closed? Does this mean that Ol' Faithful stops erupting, or just that there will be less visitors, trashing up the place? D.C. has become an unashamed money-orgy, yet the government can't seem to spare money for meeting its obligation to the veterans who have given so much for us. Infrastructure is crumbling all around us, yet we have no trouble sending billions to other countries to repair mosques.  If nothing else, it's time to stop, and start asking hard questions for every single federal expenditure: Is it necessary? Are we actually getting something for our money?
 
2013-10-01 10:05:41 AM

jshine: TheShavingofOccam123: I wonder how many House Republicans bought straddles a few days ago...

Sounds like fun.


It takes a wide stance to be a republicker.
 
2013-10-01 10:06:00 AM

Peter von Nostrand: And Google is trolling with the doodle


What doodle?
 
2013-10-01 10:06:45 AM

HAMMERTOE: Honestly, the people angered by the whole government shut-down are those who benefit or expect to benefit from government activities. Federal parks closed? Does this mean that Ol' Faithful stops erupting, or just that there will be less visitors, trashing up the place? D.C. has become an unashamed money-orgy, yet the government can't seem to spare money for meeting its obligation to the veterans who have given so much for us. Infrastructure is crumbling all around us, yet we have no trouble sending billions to other countries to repair mosques.  If nothing else, it's time to stop, and start asking hard questions for every single federal expenditure: Is it necessary? Are we actually getting something for our money?


*citation needed*
 
2013-10-01 10:06:50 AM

jshine: Infernalist: Magruda: rpm: Magruda: You elect the government you deserve. Why is our self esteem so low?

You're assuming the government is validly elected. See: Gerrymandering.

Why then would a democracy allow gerrymandering to happen?

It's been an issue since the nation's birth.  Neither side wants to do anything about it because both sides use it extensively after each census report.

It would also be a hard problem to solve purely from a mathematical perspective.  How do you draw districts that are "compact" in a logical way?  It's easy to define the problem: "Find district boundaries with a minimum total length that divide a state's population equally into N districts.", but solving that is a difficult global optimization problem.


It's not insurmountable. There are plenty of algorithms out there that do this.
 
2013-10-01 10:06:56 AM

HAMMERTOE: Honestly, the people angered by the whole government shut-down are those who benefit or expect to benefit from government activities. Federal parks closed? Does this mean that Ol' Faithful stops erupting, or just that there will be less visitors, trashing up the place? D.C. has become an unashamed money-orgy, yet the government can't seem to spare money for meeting its obligation to the veterans who have given so much for us. Infrastructure is crumbling all around us, yet we have no trouble sending billions to other countries to repair mosques.  If nothing else, it's time to stop, and start asking hard questions for every single federal expenditure: Is it necessary? Are we actually getting something for our money?


Way to minimize the issue....


Some notable closings and partial closings with number of people furloughed...

Closed

EEOC - 2,057
FCC - 1,716
Export/Import Bank of the United States - 392
Federal Trade Commission - 893
National Science Foundation - 1,700
Smithsonian - 3,514

partially open

Department of Veterans Affairs - 14,224
Civilian military workers - 400,000
Department of Interior - 58,765
Department of Justice - 17,742
Department of Labor - 13,350
Department of Commerce - 40,234
Department of Homeland Security - 31.295
EPA - 15,136
IRS - 85,764
Treasury - 997
Social Security Administration - 18,006
NASA  - 17,883
 
2013-10-01 10:07:07 AM
THANKS OBAMA!!!!

media.tumblr.com
 
2013-10-01 10:07:40 AM

Headso: nelsonal: Breach the debt ceiling and we may be talking about some real problems

Does anyone know when this will actually happen?  weeks? months?


Oct. 17th
 
2013-10-01 10:08:21 AM

Smoking GNU: Peter von Nostrand: And Google is trolling with the doodle

What doodle?


They are not trolling.  It's scheduled way in advance.   http://www.google.com/doodles/about
 
2013-10-01 10:08:59 AM

Headso: nelsonal: Breach the debt ceiling and we may be talking about some real problems

Does anyone know when this will actually happen?  weeks? months?


Oct 17

Keep in mind an average gov't shutdown lasts eight days. How can the Republicans, after screaming so loud, NOT pitch a fit over the debt ceiling?
 
2013-10-01 10:09:24 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: I wonder how many House Republicans bought straddles a few days ago...


It's ok - they have a wide stance spread
 
2013-10-01 10:09:38 AM

Headso: nelsonal: Breach the debt ceiling and we may be talking about some real problems

Does anyone know when this will actually happen?  weeks? months?


October 17th
 
2013-10-01 10:09:49 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-01 10:10:15 AM
Gerrymandering happens when

1.  Four grandmas and men in tri-cornered hats or loud 'we must have our way' groups with group-identity political fixations find the most obnoxious, and politically or religiously smarmy guy or gal to support and vote for that person into the local primary for state assembly
2.  Ten equally brilliant people actually VOTE in the election for state assembly and Senate
3.  These devoted wackos then align themselves together in the state capitals, give strange over-the-top press conferences, and periodic town halls with their 4 to 10 constituents
4.  If they get into office when the latest census results are released, then they ...
5.  Use art and drafting skills gained from pre-school to draw up maps that benefit those grumpy constituents who voted
5.  Everyone then gets screwed because the party with the most grumps or fanatics then get to screw the country over in Washington regardless of the actual make up of the state.

Bless you, Elbridge Gerry
 
2013-10-01 10:10:22 AM

Headso: nelsonal: Breach the debt ceiling and we may be talking about some real problems

Does anyone know when this will actually happen?  weeks? months?


Unless both parties suddently get a deathwish, it's unlikely to happen until the foreigners buying our debt decide to stop.  If it does happen, much depends on what gets prioritized (basically pick between miliatry paychecks, social security payments, or debt payments) one of those three isn't getting paid at least temporarily the one that doesn't is likely to be pretty unhappy (how unhappy determines how badly things suck here and abroad).
 
2013-10-01 10:11:06 AM

HAMMERTOE: Honestly, the people angered by the whole government shut-down are those who benefit or expect to benefit from government activities. Federal parks closed? Does this mean that Ol' Faithful stops erupting, or just that there will be less visitors, trashing up the place? D.C. has become an unashamed money-orgy, yet the government can't seem to spare money for meeting its obligation to the veterans who have given so much for us. Infrastructure is crumbling all around us, yet we have no trouble sending billions to other countries to repair mosques.  If nothing else, it's time to stop, and start asking hard questions for every single federal expenditure: Is it necessary? Are we actually getting something for our money?


Without government to protect you, your soft, spoiled, born-on-third-base-thinks-he-hit-a-triple ass would last maybe fifteen seconds. So in your case, no - we aren't getting our money's worth - you aren't worth shiat - too selfish to be any good to society. A parasite, actually.
 
2013-10-01 10:11:20 AM

biyaaatci: [i.imgur.com image 738x422]


I guess "We are closed because this country is run by a bunch of incompetent babies that can't even do a simple task that they were elected to perform." doesn't fit on a sign.
 
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