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(ESPN)   Cleveland Indians manager Terry Francona explains how they made it to the playoffs: "We stayed away from chicken and beer"   (espn.go.com) divider line 42
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2013-10-01 08:29:40 AM
Well what the hell will they sacrifice to Jobu?
 
2013-10-01 09:01:39 AM

dahmers love zombie: Well what the hell will they sacrifice to Jobu?

 
2013-10-01 09:04:36 AM
OH SNAP.  Nice to see that he's enjoying some success out of the cesspool that is Boston.
 
2013-10-01 09:18:57 AM
It's not as good as some of Luda's later work, but there's no reason to avoid it.
 
2013-10-01 09:26:58 AM
See, this is why I've always had trouble disliking Francona, even when he was with the Red Sox.  (It also helped that he didn't look like a scraggly-ass scumbag like half their players.)
 
2013-10-01 09:29:33 AM
Now that's funny.  I still can't believe how poorly the Red Sox treated Francona, but then again there aren't many people who left that organization without being smeared in the press.
 
2013-10-01 09:41:19 AM
I LOLed when I heard this yesterday. Nice to see him having some success in Cleveland and enjoying himself again.

I think Tito got run out of town by Red Sox management. They needed a scapegoat for their terrible collapse and he was it. If I were Francona, I would have been sick of Larry Lucchino's meddling in team affairs.

The Red Sox cancer began with Lucchino. Time for him to go.
 
2013-10-01 09:57:08 AM

Yanks_RSJ: Now that's funny.  I still can't believe how poorly the Red Sox treated Francona, but then again there aren't many people who left that organization without being smeared in the press.


I boycotted watching them last season, of course I didn't miss much. I knew Valentine was a hand-picked hire by ownership and it was going to be a shiatshow. Plus I was peeved by the whole Francona thing.

I have caught a few games this year, but not many.

I'm surprised they are doing so well this year, but I'm not gonna stand on a podium and be all "rah rah go sawks" because I haven't followed the team.

/I do hope Lucchino and Henry get Ebola though
 
2013-10-01 09:57:15 AM
Well played, Tito. Well played.

If the Indians end up playing the Red Sox, I'm curious to what the crowd reaction will be at Fenway.
Francona was very popular here and even though the collapse happened on his watch, Lucchino's backstabbing BS, after his firing made him a very sympathetic figure.
 
2013-10-01 10:02:04 AM

Yanks_RSJ: I still can't believe how poorly the Red Sox treated Francona


Yeah, it was a terrible thing. But the good news is no one was buying the garbage they were saying to smear him on the way out. It backfired quite a bit, actually. At least from what I have seen and heard.

soopey: I think Tito got run out of town by Red Sox management. They needed a scapegoat for their terrible collapse and he was it. If I were Francona, I would have been sick of Larry Lucchino's meddling in team affairs.


Yeah, it was clear there were issues if you read Francona's book. And maybe it was time for a shake-up... getting rid of all those ridiculous contracts to the Dodgers was fantastic. What's great is I haven't heard very much from Lucchino and the rest of the management group at all this year and that's a good thing. They need to shut up and stay in the background.
 
2013-10-01 10:03:54 AM

Primitive Screwhead: Well played, Tito. Well played.

If the Indians end up playing the Red Sox, I'm curious to what the crowd reaction will be at Fenway.
Francona was very popular here and even though the collapse happened on his watch, Lucchino's backstabbing BS, after his firing made him a very sympathetic figure.


He'll be cheered. A lot. People love them some Tito. But they'll still want to see him lose. At least, that'll be my approach.
 
2013-10-01 10:07:50 AM

fatalvenom: Yanks_RSJ: Now that's funny.  I still can't believe how poorly the Red Sox treated Francona, but then again there aren't many people who left that organization without being smeared in the press.

I boycotted watching them last season, of course I didn't miss much. I knew Valentine was a hand-picked hire by ownership and it was going to be a shiatshow. Plus I was peeved by the whole Francona thing.

I have caught a few games this year, but not many.

I'm surprised they are doing so well this year, but I'm not gonna stand on a podium and be all "rah rah go sawks" because I haven't followed the team.

/I do hope Lucchino and Henry get Ebola though


Same exact thing here. I've watched exactly zero games in the last two seasons despite being a Sox fan for 20 years prior. The way ownership threw Francona under the bus and then leaked his bogus "drug issues" to the press, I will never forgive those cock suckers.

P.S. Go Cleveland!
 
2013-10-01 10:14:52 AM

WinoRhino: He'll be cheered. A lot. People love them some Tito. But they'll still want to see him lose. At least, that'll be my approach.


Anybody who doesn't cheer for the manager who helped your team to two championships should be ashamed.
 
2013-10-01 10:27:40 AM

idesofmarch: Anybody who doesn't cheer for the manager who helped your team to two championships should be ashamed.


Not sure there was anyone around who didn't...
And when he returned in 2012 for Fenway's 100th celebration (he initially told management that he wouldn't) he got the biggest cheers of anyone. Not saying you disagree with my post-- I'm just saying that the only thing management accomplished by trying to make Tito a scapegoat was alienate themselves further.

enik: Same exact thing here. I've watched exactly zero games in the last two seasons despite being a Sox fan for 20 years prior. The way ownership threw Francona under the bus and then leaked his bogus "drug issues" to the press, I will never forgive those cock suckers.


I know a lot of people who feel the same. I didn't watch much last year because I disliked Valentine, I was angry at the management group, and I didn't like a lot of the players. But I started watching again as soon as they shipped Beckett and Gonzalez out to L.A., and was even more excited when Valentine was sent packing.
 
2013-10-01 10:36:02 AM

enik: Same exact thing here. I've watched exactly zero games in the last two seasons despite being a Sox fan for 20 years prior. The way ownership threw Francona under the bus and then leaked his bogus "drug issues" to the press, I will never forgive those cock suckers.

P.S. Go Cleveland!


This was the cherry on top of that shiat-sunday

The audio was incredibly douche-chill radio. Henry didn't help his cause in my eyes with this whole thing, but goddamn it was compelling radio.
 
2013-10-01 10:42:06 AM

idesofmarch: WinoRhino: He'll be cheered. A lot. People love them some Tito. But they'll still want to see him lose. At least, that'll be my approach.

Anybody who doesn't cheer for the manager who helped your team to two championships should be ashamed.


Agreed!
 
2013-10-01 10:53:39 AM

WinoRhino: idesofmarch: Anybody who doesn't cheer for the manager who helped your team to two championships should be ashamed.

Not sure there was anyone around who didn't...
And when he returned in 2012 for Fenway's 100th celebration (he initially told management that he wouldn't) he got the biggest cheers of anyone. Not saying you disagree with my post-- I'm just saying that the only thing management accomplished by trying to make Tito a scapegoat was alienate themselves further.


Indeed, I was supporting your assessment.  Boston's management was very, very stupid to blame and fire Francona, and everyone - fans especially - knows it.
 
2013-10-01 10:54:55 AM
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I believe!!!!!
 
2013-10-01 11:14:29 AM
Cleveland Indians manager Terry Francona explains how they made it to the playoffs: "We stayed away from chicken and beer benefited from a favorable schedule in September"

ftfy
 
2013-10-01 11:15:37 AM
Oh enough with the Tito ball-washing.  Things were hardly that black and white.  Of course the Sox ownership acted like fools.  BUT, the Sox *players* played like crap during the collapseS, Tito was far too loyal for far too long, and he didn't exactly do much to right the ship and prevent the losing.  It was time for a change.  Glad to see him doing well in Cleveland.  But he's neither a saint nor the best manager since Earl freakin' Weaver.
 
2013-10-01 11:49:06 AM
We should've got the live chicken.
 
2013-10-01 12:34:33 PM

beerrun: benefited from a favorable schedule in September


"They did it the hard way, by ending the season on 10-game winning streak against the White Sox, Astros and Twins.

I don't care if they played three teams from the North Pole, the Indians had to win all 10 of those games to win the wild-card spot.

Ten games in a row, all packed with pressure. Ten ways to mess up, 10 different days where Tribe fans probably had to fight off the feeling that somehow, their team would blow it.

I don't care that the Twins, White Sox and Astros had the three worst records in the American League.

If the Indians finish 8-2 in the last 10 games, their season is over. They needed all 10, and they won all 10.
And in seven of those games, Tribe pitchers held the opposition to two or fewer runs. "

So don't sit there and act like we didn't earn it
 
2013-10-01 12:37:19 PM
That worked for the original chicken and beer team, too.
 
2013-10-01 01:16:19 PM

ltdanman44: beerrun: benefited from a favorable schedule in September

"They did it the hard way, by ending the season on 10-game winning streak against the White Sox, Astros and Twins.

I don't care if they played three teams from the North Pole, the Indians had to win all 10 of those games to win the wild-card spot.

Ten games in a row, all packed with pressure. Ten ways to mess up, 10 different days where Tribe fans probably had to fight off the feeling that somehow, their team would blow it.

I don't care that the Twins, White Sox and Astros had the three worst records in the American League.

If the Indians finish 8-2 in the last 10 games, their season is over. They needed all 10, and they won all 10.
And in seven of those games, Tribe pitchers held the opposition to two or fewer runs. "

So don't sit there and act like we didn't earn it


Amen!

No matter what the haters say, these are all still Major League baseball teams, and it is baseball. Anything can happen on any given day. The Indians kicked arse and took names.

As if the schedule makers knew those three teams would be garbage? Uh, the Tigers played the same schedule and finished one game better. I guess they benefited from a soft schedule too.
 
2013-10-01 01:17:55 PM

beerrun: Cleveland Indians manager Terry Francona explains how they made it to the playoffs: "We stayed away from chicken and beer benefited from a favorable schedule in September"

ftfy




This! They lose four of six to the team they played with a winning record.
 
2013-10-01 01:22:29 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: beerrun: Cleveland Indians manager Terry Francona explains how they made it to the playoffs: "We stayed away from chicken and beer benefited from a favorable schedule in September"

ftfy

This! They lose four of six to the only team they played with a winning record.
Still plan to root for them thou.

 
2013-10-01 01:34:43 PM

Coco LaFemme: OH SNAP.  Nice to see that he's enjoying some success out of the cesspool that is Boston.


Oh I SO want a CLE/BOS ALCS and then for the Tribe to win.  Just to see the look on Lucchino's mug when he realizes what just happened.

He'll know what Steinbrenner felt like when BOS came back from 0-3.
 
2013-10-01 01:44:19 PM
Fark you Jobu, I'll do it myself.
 
2013-10-01 01:49:55 PM

Rwa2play: Coco LaFemme: OH SNAP.  Nice to see that he's enjoying some success out of the cesspool that is Boston.

Oh I SO want a CLE/BOS ALCS and then for the Tribe to win.  Just to see the look on Lucchino's mug when he realizes what just happened.

He'll know what Steinbrenner felt like when BOS came back from 0-3.


Too bad that can't happen, since the Indians would play Boston in the division series if the get by Tampa tomorrow.
 
2013-10-01 01:56:19 PM

vdawg: Rwa2play: Coco LaFemme: OH SNAP.  Nice to see that he's enjoying some success out of the cesspool that is Boston.

Oh I SO want a CLE/BOS ALCS and then for the Tribe to win.  Just to see the look on Lucchino's mug when he realizes what just happened.

He'll know what Steinbrenner felt like when BOS came back from 0-3.

Too bad that can't happen, since the Indians would play Boston in the division series if the get by Tampa tomorrow.


Still, I'd give a year's pay just to see the look on Lucchino and Henry's face when CLE wins.
 
2013-10-01 02:18:28 PM

coheed_and_cambria: Oh enough with the Tito ball-washing.  Things were hardly that black and white.  Of course the Sox ownership acted like fools.  BUT, the Sox *players* played like crap during the collapseS, Tito was far too loyal for far too long, and he didn't exactly do much to right the ship and prevent the losing.  It was time for a change.  Glad to see him doing well in Cleveland.  But he's neither a saint nor the best manager since Earl freakin' Weaver.


World Series won during Tito's tenure: 2
World Series won during the previous 86 years: 0
 
2013-10-01 02:28:19 PM
Anyone who's lived in northeast Ohio for any length of time knows that the Tribe will blow it, and resoundingly.  The Cleveland Sports Curse will always manifest.  ALWAYS.
 
2013-10-01 02:28:39 PM

The Bestest: coheed_and_cambria: Oh enough with the Tito ball-washing.  Things were hardly that black and white.  Of course the Sox ownership acted like fools.  BUT, the Sox *players* played like crap during the collapseS, Tito was far too loyal for far too long, and he didn't exactly do much to right the ship and prevent the losing.  It was time for a change.  Glad to see him doing well in Cleveland.  But he's neither a saint nor the best manager since Earl freakin' Weaver.

World Series won during Tito's tenure: 2
World Series won during the previous 86 years: 0


Best manager they had in 9 decades, and all it took was one bad month of baseball from the "Best Team Evah" for Red Sox management to turn him into a pill-popping incompetent.
 
2013-10-01 02:38:42 PM
As he does every day, Francona made the short commute from his downtown apartment to Progressive Field on his Vespa scooter

He vaguely remembers planting a kiss on designated hitter Jason Giambi



Terry sounds a little "fabulous", doesn't he?
 
2013-10-01 02:40:56 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Anyone who's lived in northeast Ohio for any length of time knows that the Tribe will blow it, and resoundingly.  The Cleveland Sports Curse will always manifest.  ALWAYS.


If they get to and beat the RedSox that would be hilarious. How can anyone not like Terry F?
 
2013-10-01 03:48:39 PM
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Love Terry and his passion for Cleveland (as a whole city) and how he cares deeply about his players and the game. He's a stand up guy.

/Can't wait to go to the Wildcard game tomorrow night!
//Even bough LDS tickets in case they make it that far
///#Windians! (Yes, that's a thing in Cleveland right now.. It's better than Brohio...)
 
2013-10-01 03:50:34 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Anyone who's lived in northeast Ohio for any length of time knows that the Tribe will blow it, and resoundingly.  The Cleveland Sports Curse will always manifest.  ALWAYS.


The thing about curses is that sometimes they get broken - sometimes somebody sells their soul to Satan to make it happen (see: 2004), but it happens.  Have hope!
 
2013-10-01 04:15:57 PM
Hahaha, good for you Francona.
 
2013-10-01 04:46:42 PM
I think it's pretty damned funny, and I'm a Sox fan.  I mean, yes, he let people get too comfortable and all, but we're talking about adults here.  They need to be held responsible for being dicks just as much as Tito or Lucchino, if not WAY more.  And besides, Lucchino was the dick who decided to make it all out to be Tito's fault, and he did it because he didn't want to be blamed for being a lucky jackass.  And that's all before we talk about the ball-washing by all the idiot pinkhats who've been driving the normal fans nuts with their stupidity.

Either way, only a guy who's in the Hall of Fame and has his number on the right field facade had more wins and games managed for Boston, and very few have a better winning percentage than him.  Hell, only one manager other than him can even claim two rings for Boston.  Either way, he gets plenty of credit for what happened in 2004 and 2007 in my book.
 
2013-10-01 07:49:54 PM
The chicken and beer industries are NOT happy about this storyline.
 
2013-10-01 09:11:56 PM

idesofmarch: Pants full of macaroni!!: Anyone who's lived in northeast Ohio for any length of time knows that the Tribe will blow it, and resoundingly.  The Cleveland Sports Curse will always manifest.  ALWAYS.

The thing about curses is that sometimes they get broken - sometimes somebody sells their soul to Satan to make it happen (see: 2004), but it happens.  Have hope!


So true. There's was literally no chance in 2004, but Terry and his team found a way to break through.
 
2013-10-01 09:59:38 PM

enik: idesofmarch: Pants full of macaroni!!: Anyone who's lived in northeast Ohio for any length of time knows that the Tribe will blow it, and resoundingly.  The Cleveland Sports Curse will always manifest.  ALWAYS.

The thing about curses is that sometimes they get broken - sometimes somebody sells their soul to Satan to make it happen (see: 2004), but it happens.  Have hope!

So true. There's was literally no chance in 2004, but Terry and his team found a way to break through.


If by 'team found a way to break through' you mean 'somebody made a contract with The Beast,' then yes.  Because nothing will convince me that anything else could be responsible.
 
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