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(NPR)   Obama's first interview since the shutdown: "This perpetual cycle of brinksmanship and crisis has to end once and for all"   (npr.org) divider line 148
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2013-10-01 07:26:53 AM  
Raising the debt ceiling is not raising the debt; it is simply saying Congress is authorizing the Treasury to pay for those things that Congress has already approved.

That's too difficult to understand for most Greek philosophers.
 
2013-10-01 07:30:31 AM  
Well, it's his fault for being a democrat.
 
2013-10-01 07:30:34 AM  
He should have done this from the start. Anybody who has raised a toddler knows that if you keep giving in, they just get worse and worse.
 
2013-10-01 07:39:47 AM  
Pot meet kettle


/ petulant spoiled child
 
2013-10-01 07:56:17 AM  
The Obvious tag also would work here.

SauronWasFramed: Pot meet kettle


/ petulant spoiled child


If you're calling President Obama the spoiled child, come here and let me slap you.
 
2013-10-01 07:56:27 AM  

SauronWasFramed: Pot meet kettle


/ petulant spoiled child


Yes, the same petulant spoiled child that just negotiated us out of another useless war instead of sending thousands of our soldiers to their deaths just to monetarily benefit his drinking buddies.

Oh, wait, your were just trolling.

Never mind.
 
2013-10-01 07:57:15 AM  
publicly
funded
elections
 
2013-10-01 07:58:24 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Well, it's his fault for being a democrat.


And black. Don't forget he has brown skin. Also call him BOB.
 
2013-10-01 08:00:55 AM  
All this time later, still as relevant...

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2013-10-01 08:02:26 AM  
Then why won't he give the GOP everything they want?  That's all he has to do.
 
2013-10-01 08:03:52 AM  
Crisis and Leviathan... And now Leviathan complains about a crisis.
 
2013-10-01 08:05:30 AM  

"This perpetual cycle of brinksmanship and crisis has to end once and for all," Obama said.


 About damned time.
 
2013-10-01 08:07:24 AM  
So he's going to arrest them all the house and senate for treason and have them work from Gitmo until they can function like human beings?
 
2013-10-01 08:09:12 AM  

Aristocles: Infernalist: "This perpetual cycle of brinksmanship and crisis has to end once and for all," Obama said.
 About damned time.

Yeah, yeah, yah... remember when he said something after the Gabby Giffords shooting about "civil discourse"?

How's that working out?


Republicans didn't listen to him and insisted on being uncivil.

Suprise suprise
 
2013-10-01 08:09:20 AM  

Aristocles: Yeah, yeah, yah... remember when he said something after the Gabby Giffords shooting about "civil discourse"?

How's that working out?


No change is the kind of change I can believe in from our Government...

So I don't think he's TECHNICALLY lied.
 
2013-10-01 08:10:39 AM  
stop responding to Aristocles
 
2013-10-01 08:12:41 AM  
Hey, BOB is here.
 
2013-10-01 08:14:54 AM  
And it WILL end once and for all.  As soon as he's out of office and in a prison cell.

/TIWRAB
 
2013-10-01 08:16:38 AM  

Aristocles: "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. government can't pay its own bills. ... I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit." - BOB


what were his list of demands?
 
2013-10-01 08:18:12 AM  

Kyosuke: Yes, the same petulant spoiled child that just negotiated us out of another useless war instead of sending thousands of our soldiers to their deaths just to monetarily benefit his drinking buddies


lol which war was this?

Ahh yes those Mexican tanks that were massing on the border.
 
2013-10-01 08:19:26 AM  

MugzyBrown: lol which war was this?


Syria and Iran come immediately to mind.

We could have gotten involved in Egypt's shiat too.
 
2013-10-01 08:19:45 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: Hey, BOB is here.


BOB is going to kick JoBo's ass.
 
2013-10-01 08:21:16 AM  

fluffy2097: Syria and Iran come immediately to mind.

We could have gotten involved in Egypt's shiat too.


So Obama successfully negotiated a peace treaty with countries we were never at war with and the only threat of war was from the US?
 
2013-10-01 08:22:22 AM  

MugzyBrown: fluffy2097: Syria and Iran come immediately to mind.

We could have gotten involved in Egypt's shiat too.

So Obama successfully negotiated a peace treaty with countries we were never at war with and the only threat of war was from the US?


Have you 'not' paid even the slightest attention to American foreign policy for the last 70 years?
 
2013-10-01 08:22:52 AM  
Are you seriously just figuring this out, Obama?
 
2013-10-01 08:23:59 AM  

Infernalist: Have you 'not' paid even the slightest attention to American foreign policy for the last 70 years?


I have.  You don't get credit for not starting a war.

I have successfully negotiated out of not robbing my neighbors house.  Give me a peace prize!
 
2013-10-01 08:24:51 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Are you seriously just figuring this out, Obama?


I think it's more of a case of the masses finally figuring it out.  I'm sure he's been wanting to say and do such things for a long while now, but he had to wait for the American people to slowly realize that the GOP/TP were complete shiatheads.

Now that a majority of Americans are angry at the GOP/TP for shutting down the government, he can act without worrying about them turning it around on him.
 
2013-10-01 08:25:23 AM  

Aristocles: "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. government can't pay its own bills. ... I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit." - BOB


I agreed a lot more with Senator Obama than President Obama.  What's really weird is so did most of the people in this thread.
 
2013-10-01 08:26:09 AM  
When this is over, there needs to be some Constitutional amendments over this sh*t. A portion of one political party shouldn't be able to grind the entire government to a halt over one law it doesn't like, with no resolutions until Congress gets around to agreeing on something.

This sh*t is why a two party system is f*cked. In countries with a parliamentary system, the government can call an election if a bunch of MPs decide they don't want to do their damn jobs.
 
2013-10-01 08:26:30 AM  

MugzyBrown: Infernalist: Have you 'not' paid even the slightest attention to American foreign policy for the last 70 years?

I have.  You don't get credit for not starting a war.

I have successfully negotiated out of not robbing my neighbors house.  Give me a peace prize!


If you'd robbed every other house on the block, not robbing one would be fairly notable.
 
2013-10-01 08:28:57 AM  

MugzyBrown: Infernalist: Have you 'not' paid even the slightest attention to American foreign policy for the last 70 years?

I have.  You don't get credit for not starting a war.

I have successfully negotiated out of not robbing my neighbors house.  Give me a peace prize!


You're not a Superpower, either.

Military adventurism has long been one of America's most gross sins on the world stage and we're not just prone to doing it, we seem to seek out situations where we can flex our military might and show the world who is still in charge.

The fact that Obama has only allowed us into one quickly resolved conflict where we played a secondary role, at best, is a sign that he's not that much of a warmonger.  We avoided getting into Syria when it really, honestly, would have been simpler to just bomb the shiat out of everything and go home.

War is easy, diplomacy is hard.  So, yes, he deserves credit for not falling into that easy habit of using our military to enforce our will upon smaller nations.  He's probably the first President since Eisenhower to show some military restraint.
 
2013-10-01 08:29:25 AM  
Is he gonna go "angry black man" on us all?  Then look like a petulent moron when he does?
 
2013-10-01 08:30:29 AM  

verbaltoxin: When this is over, there needs to be some Constitutional amendments over this sh*t. A portion of one political party shouldn't be able to grind the entire government to a halt over one law it doesn't like, with no resolutions until Congress gets around to agreeing on something.


Line item veto.
 
2013-10-01 08:30:49 AM  

SithLord: Is he gonna go "angry black man" on us all?  Then look like a petulent moron when he does?


(cringe)  That's bad.  Go to your room, and think about what you did.
 
2013-10-01 08:31:30 AM  

EnderWiggnz: stop responding to Aristocles


www.voxxi.com
 
2013-10-01 08:31:50 AM  

hinten: Raising the debt ceiling is not raising the debt; it is simply saying Congress is authorizing the Treasury to pay for those things that Congress has already approved.

That's too difficult to understand for most Greek philosophers.


If it were called something like "release of committed funds" rather than "debt ceiling," we'd never have seen this problem in the first place. It's also proof that teabaggers are an ignorant, if not downright stupid group. Politicians know they can just yell "debt ceiling!" and these morans will believe it to mean something else entirely. It shows what they think of their own supporters.
 
2013-10-01 08:34:52 AM  
Yeah, can't we all just stop bickering and do what Obama tells us to do?  Gosh, why is that so hard?!
 
2013-10-01 08:35:20 AM  

Infernalist: He's probably the first President since Eisenhower to show some military restraint.


People in Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, love the restraint they feel everytime a hellfire explodes.
 
2013-10-01 08:36:12 AM  

SithLord: Is he gonna go "angry black man" on us all?  Then look like a petulent moron when he does?


obama-kicking-down-the-door.gif
 
2013-10-01 08:36:27 AM  
What Obama needs to do is carry a large Board of Education into the House chamber and start administering.  But he should be careful, I hear the smell of alcohol is so strong from the Teabaggers partying that an errant spark may set off an explosion.
 
2013-10-01 08:37:03 AM  
 
2013-10-01 08:37:10 AM  

Kyosuke: verbaltoxin: When this is over, there needs to be some Constitutional amendments over this sh*t. A portion of one political party shouldn't be able to grind the entire government to a halt over one law it doesn't like, with no resolutions until Congress gets around to agreeing on something.

Line item veto.


Already been tried. Clinton briefly had that power. We need the option for the Tea Party to go off, form their own dumbass party, elect their own MPs, and then we can dissolve the Federal Parliament when they try to shut our government down and shirk their own duties.
 
2013-10-01 08:38:29 AM  

serial_crusher: Yeah, can't we all just stop bickering and do what Obama tells us to do?  Gosh, why is that so hard?!


Yeah.. if your heart decides to ignore your brain and stop beating.. that's no biggie, right?
 
2013-10-01 08:39:00 AM  

MugzyBrown: Infernalist: He's probably the first President since Eisenhower to show some military restraint.

People in Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, love the restraint they feel everytime a hellfire explodes.


Such a saint you are, showing compassion and sympathy for enemies of the United States and its peoples.
 
2013-10-01 08:39:53 AM  
"This perpetual cycle of brinksmanship and crisis has to end once and for all "


'...there is no operating budget. The last time the Senate passed a budget was April 29, 2009. Nearly the entirety of Obama's time as President has been this way. For the Senate to abrogate its basic fiduciary responsibilities in such a major way is .... dickish.'


Obama.... do a little work.    Put forth some effort on a budget.    Get your team of Democrats in the Senate to do some little work.      If you can't even accomplish that much then you might not deserve to be president.
 
2013-10-01 08:41:27 AM  

InmanRoshi: While Quinnipiac's poll showed that the Affordable Care Act remains polarizing - 45 percent support it while 47 percent are opposed - 58 percent said they are opposed to Congress cutting off funding for the law. Seventy-four percent said they disapprove of congressional Republicans while only 17 percent said they approve - their lowest score ever in Quinnipiac's polling.

Democrats in Congress came out marginally better in the poll - 32 percent approve while 60 percent disapprove - but the party may enter next year's midterm elections with an upper-hand over the GOP.
The poll showed that voters gave the nod to a generic Democrat over a generic Republican ahead of the 2014 congressional races, 43 percent to 34 percent. According to Quinnipiac, that's the widest advantage enjoyed by Democrats on that particular question.

As Washington enters yet another fiscal battle, the poll found more Americans backing President Obama than Republicans on Capitol Hill. Fifty-five percent said gridlock is due to the GOP's determination to block any of Obama's proposals, while just 33 percent blame the president's lack of skill. Majorities said they trust Obama more than congressional Republicans on helping low income families and helping the middle class, while pluralities trust the president over the GOP on health care and the economy.


This long reported statistic fails to elaborate that of the 47% that oppose Obamacare, a sizable percentage of that group oppose it BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH.

Yes, that statistic has lumped the pro-Obamacare liberals who wanted it to do more...with the anti-Obamacare people.

Because, otherwise, people would realize that a vast majority of Americans like Obamacare.

LIBERAL MEDIA.
 
2013-10-01 08:42:14 AM  

Infernalist: Such a saint you are, showing compassion and sympathy for enemies of the United States and its peoples.


static.guim.co.uk

Enemy of the United States.
 
2013-10-01 08:42:51 AM  

netcentric: "This perpetual cycle of brinksmanship and crisis has to end once and for all "


'...there is no operating budget. The last time the Senate passed a budget was April 29, 2009. Nearly the entirety of Obama's time as President has been this way. For the Senate to abrogate its basic fiduciary responsibilities in such a major way is .... dickish.'


Obama.... do a little work.    Put forth some effort on a budget.    Get your team of Democrats in the Senate to do some little work.      If you can't even accomplish that much then you might not deserve to be president.


(eyeroll)
 
2013-10-01 08:43:58 AM  
A big problem is that when government is working properly, it's about as interesting as an accounting convention but that total snooze-fest doesn't sell on Faux Noise. Many are making oodles of money on the near-total dysfunction of our government so they're intent on keeping this going rather than do what's right for our nation.
 
2013-10-01 08:44:26 AM  

netcentric: Put forth some effort on a budget.


You don't pay attention to the news much, do you?
 
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