Bigdogdaddy: Maybe the democrats should have sent the bill back to the house with a gun ban attatched. They'd crap a bullet.
Aristocles: No, you see, the Majority of Americans are pro-Second Amendment, and the Majority of Americans are anti-Obamacare.Failed analogy fails
foo monkey: Aristocles: No, you see, the Majority of Americans are pro-Second Amendment, and the Majority of Americans are anti-Obamacare.Failed analogy fails[Citation needed]
Kibbler: That's not accurate. The vast majority of Americans support background checks at gun shows.
FullMetalPanda: You missed the newest angle/trick the Republicans did. They also added that everyone in the government has to be on Obamacare.They didn't change anything else just added that and insists that's why the Democrats refuse to pass it because they don't want to be on Obamacare.
quatchi: Seriously, watching Cruz pretend that his opposition to the ACA was based on concern that it wasn't good enough and then pretending that Congress still had time to act after his showboating/ attention whoring fauxibuster BS the other day made me feel like I was taking crazy pills.Add in Blitzer throwing not even softball but nerfball questions the whole interview and I was suddenly reminded quite forcefully why I try not to watch that shiat in anything but small doses anymore.
Smoking GNU: foo monkey: Aristocles: No, you see, the Majority of Americans are pro-Second Amendment, and the Majority of Americans are anti-Obamacare.Failed analogy fails[Citation needed]Y U respond to Aristotrolly?
KyngNothing: And by the way, the actual quote from the President, which isn't even mentioned in this newsmax "article":If you had a Republican president in here and a Democratic speaker said, "We're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless you pass background checks on guns. We're not going to pass the debt ceiling unless you raise the corporate income tax by 30 percent," you know, that Republican president would find him- or herself in a similar position. That's not how our Constitution was designed. Raising the debt ceiling is not raising the debt; it is simply saying Congress is authorizing the Treasury to pay for those things that Congress has already approved.
Jonnadiah: Arkanaut://Also last I checked it's 49% against on Obamacare -- a plurality perhaps, but not a majority.But only 37% of Americans support the repeal of the Affordable Care Act! Because herpderp.
Arkanaut: Jonnadiah: Arkanaut://Also last I checked it's 49% against on Obamacare -- a plurality perhaps, but not a majority.But only 37% of Americans support the repeal of the Affordable Care Act! Because herpderp.Good point -- that stat is a lot more relevant.
crab66: "Anything I slightly disagree with is worse than Hitler."
lawboy87: I am holding out hope that every Congress Critter who lines up to support the Vitter agreement (and I hope there are a bunch) would be met with their entire staffs resigning en masse.Having lived and worked in DC for well over a decade and knowing lots of congressional staffers (from both parties) I would imagine that they are all taking that as a kick in the face that they did not deserve. While the Democratic staffers could kind of laugh it offarknowing it's never going to happen and their bosses would never support) I've got a feeling there's a bunch of Republican staffers out there this morning who feel they just got fed to the wolves in an effort by one of their own to score a few cheap political points. My guess is that a lot of them will remain bitter about how they are being "used" for quite some time to come. Vitter (and anyone else on record as supporting this idea) better be prepared to be firmly and regularly farked over for some time to come by the staffs of just about every other congressional office out there.
EyeballKid: When can the bombing of Confederate states begin?
foo monkey: Aristocles: No, you see, the Majority of Americans are pro-Second Amendment, and the Majority of Americans are anti-Obamacare.Failed analogy failsLet's see...Are there any other indicators on which the public will can be measured outside of hand picked polls inciting knee-jerk reactions? Like maybe an election? During which two huge issues on the table were gun rights and the repeal of ObamaCare? And didn't several million more people vote against those two issues than voted for it? Didn't you lose, and I mean MISERABLY lose?
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