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2013-10-02 12:16:47 AM  
2 votes:
Here's my experience with LOST.

Lost Season One: "Hey, look here.  We got a mysterious island, lots of compelling characters with rich pasts, and some sort of crazy mystery.  Dead people appear, there are magic numbers, haunting voices, weird ancient radio transmissions, and a group of feral demon-people in the woods who know some kind of secret.  What the hell is really going on here?  You wanna know?"

Me: "Yes!  This is good, tell me more."

Lost Season Two: "Well, apparently, it's all about this... like, this cool old New-Agey science expedition from the '70s called the Dharma Initiative.  They built all these cool retro bunkers with mystical symbols, there's a clicky timer of doom, pneumatic tubes to deliver messages -- ain't that stuff so cool?  What was the Dharma Initiative doing?  What did they discover?"

Me: "Gosh!  I don't know, but this is enthralling.  So about this Alvar Hanso guy who founded Dharma...."

Lost Season Three: "Huh?  Oh, never mind him for now.  You know those feral Other people?  Turns out they have a modern village, and are led by this brilliant, awesome, insane, charismatic madman named Ben Linus.  BEN LINUS, people, he's the mastermind here.  He's the total mastermind, nobody can fark with Ben, he has all these plans, it's crazy..."

Me: "Oh, cool, he's a great villain, so what is Ben going to..."

Lost Season Four: "Actually forget all that.  Ben... eh, he was really just this creepy usurper guy.  No, the person who really knows what's going on here is Charles Widmore.  CHARLES WIDMORE and his wife, they are the ones behind everything, they know it all.  Ben is going to go to war with Widmore, and it will be so farking epic you will not be able to believe it!

Me: "Hot damn!  I can't wait to see how that plays out!

Lost Season Five: "Huh?  Sorry, i'm... i'm drunk.  Ben and who now?  I'm past all that, i have all these new ideas!  So... like... okay, Locke is dead.  Ben kills Widmore's guys, i guess.  And the losties are traveling through time... hey, you wanna go back in time to the '70s and see Dharma in its prime?  Yeah!  Look, Ben's a little kid, and... the whole thing with the clicky timer... of doom... it like.... it releases energy.  Which is bad i guess.  Remember when i said Locke was dead?  Nah, he's alive, there he is... and he's going back in time... atomic bomb... uhh, Richard Alpert visits him as a kid.... what does it all mean...."

Me: "....yikes.  So now what?

Lost Season Six: "Hey, what if there was an alternate timeline where the plane never crashed?  Yeah, look how boring there lives are over there!  But it's all strange somehow, what's going on?  Well, i will tell you!  Here are all the secrets you've waited years to hear!  Umm... Locke is really the Smoke Monster, the Smoke Monster is the bad guy, Jacob's the good guy, they fight over the Island because..... MAGIC LIGHT.  And you know what else?  PSYCH!!!  It wasn't an alternate timeline at all, it was... THE AFTERLIFE.  Oh, the all died at some point, but they reunite in heaven, isn't that sweet?  Ah, what a ride.  And those Voices on the Island?  They were the voices of dead people.  Yes.  Sorry if i just blew your mind."

Me: "Oh, fark you.  I'm watching Breaking Bad."

And fark Lindelof.
2013-10-01 11:45:06 AM  
2 votes:
Well deserved. Lindelof grifted us to make himself rich. I wouldn't hate him so much if he didn't outright lie. I remember around season 2 when he openly promised to the media that he had the entirety of Lost penciled in, and that every single mystery would follow logically from the purposeful actions of cast members. He promised that the story would unfold like a Rube Goldberg machine without any reliance on mysticism or hand waving. He made this promise dishonestly in order to trick people into continuing to watch the show so that he could make as much money as possible. To hell with that guy.
2013-10-01 10:04:13 PM  
1 vote:
Anybody who honestly thought Lost would ever be able to satisfactorily tie up all its loose ends as of the end of the second season deserves what they got.
2013-10-01 07:19:06 PM  
1 vote:
Full confession: I am one of those LOST nerds who spent hours after every episode online, dissecting each shot, spent more hours than I care to remember Googling stuff like comparative religion, Casimir Effect and so on and who, three years later still has nerd rage at how the whole sixth season played out.

As fans know, Lindelof and Cuse were brought in to run the show after JJ Abrams made it clear he wasn't going to be a showrunner for it. There's two things that fuel my nerd rage:

1. Lindelof and Cuse lied, they lied through their effing teeth. It seems pretty clear now that they got busted on their big "reveal" (that the Island was purgatory or some form of afterlife) fairly early on and they freaked out. Why not just say "Hahahaha, you fanboys/girls and the Internet, busted!" and go on with that guiding idea? Instead, they jerked the story around so that by the sixth season they were flat-out doing stuff that contradicted what had happened in the first three seasons. They had great explanations in place for stuff like the numbers: the Valenzetti Equation and Magnus Hanso and the DeGroots and we get.....a wheel that randomly picks out people? The less said about Jack putting his big penis in a vagina, erm, putting that big rock in a hole to stop the Island from sinking, the better.

2. The way they treated characters. Lindelof has said that his favorite was Jack (scheduled to die in the pilot originally) because he was everything a short, balding, Jewish guy from Teaneck wasn't. So, we get story after story about flat-out the most boring character of the original cast and a glow of white light in a church filled with people who hated Jack in "real life" to cap it off. Locke? Murdered and his body taken over, the final chapter of a sad demise. Ben? Reduced to doing cringe-inducing wuvy-duvy scenes with the sideways Danielle. Waaaaaallllllltttttt? Sorry dude, you went through puberty, we didn't make any plans for that, we're just going to have you end as another plot line never resolved. Michael? WAAAAAAALLLLLLTTTTTT! Desmond? Ends up helping Kate, who he never really gave two seconds of thought about during the run of the show.

Oh well. At least the blast door map explained why there were polar bears on a tropical island.

/Mmmmm....nerd rage......mmmmmmmm
2013-10-01 05:34:16 PM  
1 vote:

lesliessexxy: I really really enjoyed the "Lost" finale.

I did, too. Ultimately, all the mysterious island stuff was better off just being mysterious island stuff, and it was more important to me to see the characters find some measure of happiness, even if it was in some strange afterlife scenario.

But I do have bones to pick with Lindeloff, who - unlike Vince Gilligan - brings something up with no intent on resolving it, or does so by posing an even bigger unresolved question. His plots don't make any damned sense, and it's as if he's just writing for the moment, ignoring what came before and worrying about where everything's going later (or never).

Breaking Bad wasn't a mystery. It was a specific character's story, told in a grounded way, and it deserved an ending that wrapped everything up logically (at least within the internal logic set up by the show).
2013-10-01 11:56:52 AM  
1 vote:

hubcity: But I! I! I! I! I! I! I! I! I! I! I! I! I! I! I! I! I! I! *liked* the series finale of The Prisoner...

2013-10-01 09:48:43 AM  
1 vote:
If the guy who wrote Lost gets this harassment, nobody involved with making Heroes should ever have a moment's rest again.
2013-10-01 09:05:02 AM  
1 vote:
Like many, I didn't like the Lost ending, but that was three years ago -- let it go.
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