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2013-09-30 11:24:57 PM
So... we should totally ban marijuana then? Is that what you're saying?
 
2013-09-30 11:50:24 PM

Donnchadha: So... we should totally ban marijuana then? Is that what you're saying?


No, no. Subby is clearly saying: 420, blaze it!

/After all, you don't want cancer, do you?
 
2013-09-30 11:59:28 PM
Using marijuana as an anti-emetic seems perfectly reasonable, but taking the kid off of chemo was an incredibly stupid decision.
 
2013-10-01 12:02:11 AM
This headline is dangerously ignorant.  MJ doesn't cure cancer and has never been used for that purpose.
 
2013-10-01 12:04:02 AM

CPT Ethanolic: This headline is dangerously ignorant.  MJ doesn't cure cancer and has never been used for that purpose.


http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofession al /page4
 
2013-10-01 12:07:07 AM

timujin: CPT Ethanolic: This headline is dangerously ignorant.  MJ doesn't cure cancer and has never been used for that purpose.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofession al /page4


Or, on a more scholarly note:

http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/abs/6603236a.html

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/21/17/6475.abstract

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/308/3/838.abstract

http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/content/70/5/1612.abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/66/13/6748.abstract
 
2013-10-01 12:19:43 AM

timujin: timujin: CPT Ethanolic: This headline is dangerously ignorant.  MJ doesn't cure cancer and has never been used for that purpose.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofession al /page4

Or, on a more scholarly note:

http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/abs/6603236a.html

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/21/17/6475.abstract

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/308/3/838.abstract

http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/content/70/5/1612.abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/66/13/6748.abstract


I don't think you're listening.

It's never been used for that purpose. It's dangerous and should be banned.

None of your "facts" or "evidence" will change the fact of what I feel should be true.
 
2013-10-01 01:26:42 AM
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2013-10-01 01:47:19 AM

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Here's your music for that scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16RCvtziXj0
 
2013-10-01 02:34:34 AM
Colorado mom chooses cannabis over chemotherapy to fight's son's leukemia

So the leukemia belongs to the son of the fight?
 
2013-10-01 02:51:44 AM
I do love weed, but new age medicine is complete bullshiat
 
2013-10-01 03:05:54 AM
 
2013-10-01 03:12:35 AM

timujin: timujin: CPT Ethanolic: This headline is dangerously ignorant.  MJ doesn't cure cancer and has never been used for that purpose.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofession al /page4

Or, on a more scholarly note:

http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/abs/6603236a.html

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/21/17/6475.abstract

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/308/3/838.abstract

http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/content/70/5/1612.abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/66/13/6748.abstract


all that is interesting and good and all that, but REPLACING chemo for a blunt is just plain stupid.
 
2013-10-01 03:23:15 AM

log_jammin: timujin: timujin: CPT Ethanolic: This headline is dangerously ignorant.  MJ doesn't cure cancer and has never been used for that purpose.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofession al /page4

Or, on a more scholarly note:

http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/abs/6603236a.html

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/21/17/6475.abstract

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/308/3/838.abstract

http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/content/70/5/1612.abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/66/13/6748.abstract

all that is interesting and good and all that, but REPLACING chemo for a blunt is just plain stupid.


I'm not saying what she did was right, I'm only countering the "marijuana doesn't cure cancer and has never been used for that purpose" and "new age medicine" arguments with, you know, facts.  Your opinion is that doing what she did is stupid, my opinion is that... well, I'm glad it's a decision I don't have to make.

/You ever know anyone who's gone through chemo?
//and no "blunt" was involved
 
2013-10-01 05:08:59 AM

timujin: I'm not saying what she did was right, I'm only countering the "marijuana doesn't cure cancer and has never been used for that purpose" and "new age medicine" arguments with, you know, facts.


which is why I didn't say MJ can't cure cancer. I didn't know.

timujin: Your opinion is that doing what she did is stupid


My opinion is that replacing doctor approved treatment for MJ(that has only worked on some types of cancer in animals) is stupid.her son got lucky IMO. I'm glad he's ok, but she's not a doctor.

timujin: /You ever know anyone who's gone through chemo?


My dad just started. we found out he has esophageal cancer about a month ago. things aren't looking good.
 
2013-10-01 05:22:22 AM
log_jammin:
timujin: /You ever know anyone who's gone through chemo?

My dad just started. we found out he has esophageal cancer about a month ago. things aren't looking good.


Sorry to hear that, I've had a lot of family and friends go through it.  Best of luck to your dad.
 
2013-10-01 05:55:08 AM
1. Give patient a hardcore, lenghtly chemotherapy session
2.1 Give patient marijuana / ear candles / Acai berries
2.2 Cancer subsides
3. OH WOW ear candles / marijuana / Acai berries cure cancer!!!!1 Nothing to do with that massive chemotherapy they got, that's preposterous!
 
2013-10-01 06:01:10 AM
Cancer never goes into remission by itself.
 
2013-10-01 06:02:23 AM
I see big pharma is alive and well on Fark.
 
2013-10-01 06:03:02 AM

timujin: This isn't flax seed oil or shark cartilage.


How DARE you mock flax seen oil?!?
 
2013-10-01 06:04:42 AM
According to the article, the medical professionals called child services into, due to concern for the child.  BS.  They got called in to cover the behinds of all the mandated reporters.  Nothing like losing your license over a parent not being 100% compliant.
 
2013-10-01 06:05:16 AM
If this is truly working for the kid, fantastic and Mom made the right move. Hell, any farker with cancer would huff Jenkum if it put the C into remission.
 
2013-10-01 06:12:57 AM
This can't be true because the DEA refuses to re-schedule marijuana and no government agency would lie.
 
2013-10-01 06:17:01 AM
How does the mother know it's in remission?
 
2013-10-01 06:19:19 AM
Meh..yawn!  The gov't is in remission too.

/yep
//bored trolling
 
2013-10-01 06:22:48 AM

timujin: cman: I do love weed, but new age medicine is complete bullshiat

I'm just going to copypasta this from above, let me know once you've read them.  This isn't flax seed oil or shark cartilage.

http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/abs/6603236a.html

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/21/17/6475.abstract

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/308/3/838.abstract

http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/content/70/5/1612.abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/66/13/6748.abstract


You should actually read the articles you link to. There's no serious support for MJ as an anticancer drug in any of those papers. For example, in a tiny pilot study of 9 patients, they observed changes in tumors of 2 of them. Not even a cure, just a reduction in tumor growth, possibly. Its all speculative.
 
2013-10-01 06:24:38 AM

cman: I do love weed, but new age medicine is complete bullshiat


I like cheese, but skateboards are noisy.
 
2013-10-01 06:25:32 AM
Marijuana. Is there anything it can't doob?
 
2013-10-01 06:47:12 AM
See? That's why I smoke weed all the time. So I don't get cancer in the first place, or depression, or bored, or full, or rich.
 
2013-10-01 06:51:43 AM
www.replikultes.net

Sarah Whittle?

No wonder she was seeing all that strange shiat.
 
2013-10-01 06:53:04 AM
This is why the AMA should have been allowed to do cannabis research starting years ago.
Instead the Gov stuck by Big Pharm with their heads up the ass saying 'there is no medical value'

I know cannabis is a great pain reliever and muscle relaxant. All other uses are possible but we just dont know.
 
2013-10-01 06:53:07 AM
Ignoring the entire body of knowledge of cancer fighting in favor of what YOU think will work better doesnt make you a genius. It makes you Jenny McCarthey. Probably a very lucky Jenny McCarthey.

Glad that the child got better. I'm not a monster for Gods sake.
 
2013-10-01 06:56:43 AM
I used to be firmly of the opinion that  'all drugs are bad'
I dont do any illegal drugs - I dont even do tobacco or alcohol

but I know one of the people in this little story - http://news.ukcsc.co.uk/change-view-cannabis-oil-saved-mothers-life/

so I'm getting a kick out of these replies

/don't intend to try recreational drugs myself
//I am In favour of legalisation
 
2013-10-01 06:58:47 AM

XYNHR: 1. Give patient a hardcore, lenghtly chemotherapy session
2.1 Give patient marijuana / ear candles / Acai berries
2.2 Cancer subsides
3. OH WOW ear candles / marijuana / Acai berries cure cancer!!!!1 Nothing to do with that massive chemotherapy they got, that's preposterous!


Kinda what I was thinking....
 
2013-10-01 07:00:39 AM
weed and clinical vs alternative medicine in a single thread?

it's more flamey than you think
 
2013-10-01 07:01:23 AM
"Riddle says Landon is now in remission."

Maybe we should wait until a professional makes an assessment, hmmm? Maybe one did, but the article sure doesn't state he's actually in remission.
 
2013-10-01 07:07:18 AM
You open up a fresh box of commas, Subby?
 
2013-10-01 07:07:38 AM
But I have been assured by many a farker that people in favor of medical marijuana are just dirty hippies who want to get high.

How can this be ?
 
2013-10-01 07:08:15 AM

CPT Ethanolic: This headline is dangerously ignorant.  MJ doesn't cure cancer and has never been used for that purpose.


Good point. Except for the part where you are dead wrong.
 
2013-10-01 07:08:52 AM

log_jammin: that has only worked on some types of cancer in animals


umm, apart from all the human beings that it has worked for, where all other treatments failed them. So, yeah, just like you well poisoned, sorry, said.
 
2013-10-01 07:10:24 AM
FTA: "If a little old marijuana plant is going to do all of this, then why is he on morphine? Why is he on Ativan? Why is he on Xanax?" asked Riddle.

Those are drugs for anxiety and pain. They have nothing to do with curing cancer.
 
2013-10-01 07:12:49 AM
OMG!

Big pharma!

Weed saves!

lol
 
2013-10-01 07:13:46 AM

jcmjx: FTA: "If a little old marijuana plant is going to do all of this, then why is he on morphine? Why is he on Ativan? Why is he on Xanax?" asked Riddle.

Those are drugs for anxiety and pain. They have nothing to do with curing cancer.


Oh, trust me, they do. Lots.

Y'know what else does these things, plus stimulates the appetite taken by the chemo? Hitler.
 
2013-10-01 07:15:03 AM
umm.. sorry, I meant to say Cannabus, but there's some pretty poisoned opinions here that subconsciously made the change happen as I typed.
 
2013-10-01 07:20:06 AM
Don't even need to RTFA - unless there's absolute scientific evidence that proves the weed did it, it was his immune system that fought it off, which I admit might have been more relaxed and stoned out of its head (and therefore effective) than it would have been if it had been suppressed through chemotherapy.

Nice he's in remission, not entering into pro-con weed debate, just saying it is extremely unlikely that weed is a cancer cure.  And by extremely unlikely, I mean hell no it isn't.
 
2013-10-01 07:20:40 AM

uttertosh: well poisoned


uh huh. I poisoned the well by going off of one of the links   timujin posted.

"However, the antitumoral effect of cannabinoids has never been tested in humans. "

I believe it was the Nature article.

Now go on back and finish reading your new copy of High Times and relax a little bit.
 
2013-10-01 07:23:28 AM
I couldn't tell from RTFA if the cannabis pills were used instead of the chemo or used to help the kid deal with the chemo since he was vomiting like 50 times a day from it and nothing would help him deal with that.
All I know is, my sister has progressive MS (Multiple Sclerosis)-she went from looking and acting fairly normal to being in a wheel chair in a matter of like 5 years after being diagnosed and can't do much of anything except write using the speech recognition software I got her. She use to be large framed(hey, sounds better than saying overweight)-now she's as skinny as Starvin Marvin from South Park. She takes the same pills this kid is getting, and has a prescription from her regular doctor, not someone you pay $25 for to get a card. She has actually been involved in some studies using it, but she has never smoked anything. It has helped her a great deal in managing pain, feeling hungry-she's so skinny now- and helping with her depression. I know a lot of people abuse the drug, but I do feel it helps people like my sister who has tried every other treatment available.
 
2013-10-01 07:32:30 AM
Maybe it's just the ingredients in Funyons that caused a remission.
 
2013-10-01 07:35:17 AM

Zizzowop: I couldn't tell from RTFA if the cannabis pills were used instead of the chemo or used to help the kid deal with the chemo since he was vomiting like 50 times a day from it and nothing would help him deal with that.
All I know is, my sister has progressive MS (Multiple Sclerosis)-she went from looking and acting fairly normal to being in a wheel chair in a matter of like 5 years after being diagnosed and can't do much of anything except write using the speech recognition software I got her. She use to be large framed(hey, sounds better than saying overweight)-now she's as skinny as Starvin Marvin from South Park. She takes the same pills this kid is getting, and has a prescription from her regular doctor, not someone you pay $25 for to get a card. She has actually been involved in some studies using it, but she has never smoked anything. It has helped her a great deal in managing pain, feeling hungry-she's so skinny now- and helping with her depression. I know a lot of people abuse the drug, but I do feel it helps people like my sister who has tried every other treatment available.


FTFA: "Riddle found an alternative -- medical marijuana in the form of capsules."

key words in bold.

www.wired.com
/Sorry, had to :P
 
2013-10-01 07:45:15 AM

log_jammin: uttertosh: well poisoned

uh huh. I poisoned the well by going off of one of the links   timujin posted.

"However, the antitumoral effect of cannabinoids has never been tested in humans. "

I believe it was the Nature article.

Now go on back and finish reading your new copy of High Times and relax a little bit.


never been tested in humans in an official, government authorized double blind control study. IRL, otoh - nah, fuggedaboudit, that's jus personal anecdote, and is just hippie dippie faith healing, huh? amariteoramarite?

There's those in this thread that are equating the personal results experienced by real cancer sufferers out there with crystal/faith/prayer healers, and likening CBD oil to snake oil.

this is well poisoning, whichever way you paint it.

/dislikes HT mag, fwiw...
//dislikes people who well poison based on lack of gov approved science - when gov just doesn't approve the science in the first place.
///has personal experience with approved science cancer treatment, and the emaciated state it left his father in.
 
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