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(NPR)   Cell phones have become so entrenched in our psyche that we feel "phantom phone vibrations" and experience tremendous anxiety if we don't have our phones on us at all times   (npr.org ) divider line
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2013-10-01 01:26:34 AM  

WillofJ2: I think there is a bigger problem with people that get upset when they can not get instantly touch  with you, they call or text and expect a response in a certain amount of time and get anxious and put too much thought in to why there is not a response


Honestly?  Just straight up tell them.  The biggest offenders, anyway.  Had to go kind of tough love with my Mom as far as that went, but I have more breathing room now.  Well, now she'll follow up the one call immediately following the other (because I missed that first one?) with a ticked off email, but at least it's not 5 calls and then trying the SO if I don't respond in an hour.

Progress.

I love Google Voice transcribing voicemails straight to text message.  It makes filtering "is this a "Godmother in the ER" call, or "I decided I need to ask you this very second if you're coming home for a baptism in 5 weeks" call so much easier.
 
2013-10-01 01:27:21 AM  

WillofJ2: I think there is a bigger problem with people that get upset when they can not get instantly touch  with you, they call or text and expect a response in a certain amount of time and get anxious and put too much thought in to why there is not a response


I'm so old,

HOW OLD ARE YOU?!

I'm so old, that I remember when people didn't expect you to call them back until after you came home and had time to check the answering machine.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
2013-10-01 01:34:30 AM  

Ima4nic8or: You are preaching to the choir regarding the folks in the tricked out RVs. I don't get the point. If you are going to bring all your shiat why not just stay home? While my family and I were trying to get to sleep in our tent at 11 at night in the otherwise silent Sierra mountains two ass clowns rolled into the campground in separate truck/trailer combos. We had to listen to 10 minutes of each of them arguing with their wives over how to back into the spot and another 20 minutes of all sorts of clanging and banging as they set up all sorts of who knows what. I suspect us tenters actually have less work to set up our sites. We are certainly less noisy.

The funny thing is that the ass clowns left first thing in the morning. Something that really befuddled me. They had zero time to actually enjoy or explore the area before they moved on like bunch of roaches scurrying when the lights come on.


My guess?  They might've just been going fishing/hunting and it was less camping and more of a place to crash on the way to what they were doing.

Still, as a Older Young Person who has set up camp very late before, and often only got around to cooking dinner while everyone was pretty damn drunk... the lack of consideration boggles my mind.  Last time I went out we, again, were pretty drunk but the second anyone got too loud (pretty much the younger, born and raised city friend of ours) *everyone* started shushing him up while keeping an eye to see if the folks on the nearest site were stirring.

But as far as tent vs RV noise, you're totally right.  I can set mine up silently in the dark, and it's just a matter of knowing where my sleeping bag/sleeping pad/tent are before I get out of the car (or in my pack, but if there are RVs there I drove up).  Clanging around to find/set up sh-t just sounds so much louder with car doors open, I think, then when you're ostensibly in a walled room (but you're not really).
 
2013-10-01 01:34:35 AM  

tetsoushima: I wonder if this has to do with the monkey part of our brain that feels the need to get bugs off of our flesh.  Any evolutionary biologists in the house?  Ichthyologists?


Ichthyologists = fish scientists. Do you mean entomologists (bug scientists)?
 
2013-10-01 01:34:38 AM  

Notabunny: WillofJ2: I think there is a bigger problem with people that get upset when they can not get instantly touch  with you, they call or text and expect a response in a certain amount of time and get anxious and put too much thought in to why there is not a response

I'm so old,

HOW OLD ARE YOU?!

I'm so old, that I remember when people didn't expect you to call them back until after you came home and had time to check the answering machine.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!


30, and the biggest people I have problems with are my parents (mom mainly) and family, I have grown to hate having my phone on me and I leave it off at work and everyone acts like I am insane, and personally I am tired of other people at work constantly on their phones texting and other things on their phones while patients have things that need to be done
 
2013-10-01 01:35:39 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: WillofJ2: I think there is a bigger problem with people that get upset when they can not get instantly touch  with you, they call or text and expect a response in a certain amount of time and get anxious and put too much thought in to why there is not a response

Honestly?  Just straight up tell them.  The biggest offenders, anyway.  Had to go kind of tough love with my Mom as far as that went, but I have more breathing room now.  Well, now she'll follow up the one call immediately following the other (because I missed that first one?) with a ticked off email, but at least it's not 5 calls and then trying the SO if I don't respond in an hour.

Progress.

I love Google Voice transcribing voicemails straight to text message.  It makes filtering "is this a "Godmother in the ER" call, or "I decided I need to ask you this very second if you're coming home for a baptism in 5 weeks" call so much easier.


What is this google voice thing? I have a galaxy s3 is this message thing something I can use?
 
2013-10-01 01:49:10 AM  
I din't read the article, but it's a fact.  I used to drive thousands of miles a year with nothing except the chance of a passing care rendering service if I broke down.  Now, I can't drive to town without that sense of panic if I realize I've left it at home, and I don't even have a "smart" phone.
 
2013-10-01 01:50:08 AM  

WillofJ2: What is this google voice thing? I have a galaxy s3 is this message thing something I can use?


I also have a Galaxy S3 and use Google Voice. Google voice forwards calls/texts/voicemails to your cell transparently. I give my Google # to people that I don't necessarily want knowing my real number. At least that's one use for it. Heh.
 
2013-10-01 01:55:38 AM  
I'm another in the "I rarely use a cell phone" crowd.
Not because I don't want to, but because I can't afford to get a nice smartphone, so I'm still using my old Razr from 2005, which dies if it rings...

No phantom vibrations though, since It's always on silent!
 
2013-10-01 02:01:43 AM  
That must be the "Royal We"..Some of us don't have cell phones..
 
2013-10-01 02:52:59 AM  
funny I feel a lot better why load stone isn't with me
 
2013-10-01 03:16:49 AM  
It is a convenience, not an obligation.
 
2013-10-01 05:00:21 AM  

Anastacya: I went out to the post office today. Was gonna ping the bf to let him know about bringing him a drink, realized that I forgot my phone. Which is not unusual anymore. Ever since my mother canceled her cell phone, I have little need for it. Rather nice. If it wasn't for my lupus and the fact that I live so far from my... hell, anyone I have ever known, to be honest... I would cancel it. But I need something in case I go into an attack while out and about if I'm alone. It has happened before and scared the shiat out of me. Been a while, but I am cogent enough to know that the minute I don't have it is most likely when I will drive off into a ditch and no one will find me because I live in farking South Dakota.

/css I am sure


CSS.  Wanna fark?
 
2013-10-01 05:24:32 AM  
Don't you just hate it when they have a cellphone ring in a commercial on the radio when you are driving? And it's your ring tone. And you almost get in a wreck, answering your phone that's NOT ringing?

Sent from my hospital bed,
 
2013-10-01 05:57:57 AM  
For Valerie Kusler, who works on a 2,200-acre cattle ranch, the sensation is complicated by the cows. "The cows' moo is very muffled, it kinda sounds like ... errrrrr," she says. "So that's very similar to what my phone sounds like when it vibrates on my desk or in my purse."

s24.postimg.org
That explains it.
 
2013-10-01 06:03:26 AM  
When I miss a call from my Dad, he'll often berate me for not answering, as if it's my right to. I then explain it's my right to, or not answer. I explain that I own the phone, pay the bill, and if
I don't wanna answer, it's my right. Youcan almost hear him bind up like Sheldon when presented with and irrefutible argument.
He does have a concept of free will, but belieces it only applies to him.
 
2013-10-01 06:10:55 AM  

tuna fingers: I had a pager back in the day.  A baby pager for the birth of my first son.  I developed the phantom vibrations way back in 1997.  Yay Motorola!

[www.braddye.com image 320x255]


1984 for me. Weird!
 
2013-10-01 06:25:55 AM  
I have a custom vibe pattern set for my wife that is fairly distinct (five buzzes of varying lengths).

I've had the phantom buzz before but yesterday evening, I felt her buzz pattern while she was sitting next to me and the phone was on the arm of the chair.

So I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2013-10-01 06:43:19 AM  
This is ground breaking news!

/ 5 years ago
 
2013-10-01 07:21:12 AM  

Donnchadha: Well, maybe one day you'll be able to get a real job where you realize that you don't need to be "at work" 24/7 and can afford to turn the phone off.


Why would I turn it off? Did you miss the part where I also said it's the main method I use to keep in touch with family and friends?

Also, when did I say I disliked what I do? I probably made it sound worse than it is. I do need it on me at all times, but I thoroughly enjoy my day-to-day.

Best of luck in your life, maybe one day you'll be happy enough where you don't have to be snarky on an anonymous website.
 
2013-10-01 08:07:16 AM  
my cell phone is a crappy little flip phone and its about four years old.  i forget to charge it because i use it so rarely, so half the time its dead.  i make about 6 phone calls a month and that's all i use it for.

i sort of want to upgrade to a smartphone, but they want an extra 30 bucks a month for the minimum data plan and i refuse to pay that much.
 
2013-10-01 08:09:42 AM  
The phantom vibrations cease eventually. I used to wear a pager in the 90s for work and would get the phantom vibrations for a few years after I stopped carrying it, I'm guessing about five years. I used to carry it in that little jeans pocket above the right-hand front pocket, that way it was firmly against me and I didn't have to rely on hearing it but just had to feel the vibration - it was a noisy work environment.
So it's probably due to me not carrying one that it's ended, the only other factor is that I no longer have a stressful job that demands I wear one, not sure if that's made me more relaxed and jumpy.
 
2013-10-01 08:32:57 AM  

ornithopter: tetsoushima: I wonder if this has to do with the monkey part of our brain that feels the need to get bugs off of our flesh.  Any evolutionary biologists in the house?  Ichthyologists?

Ichthyologists = fish scientists. Do you mean entomologists (bug scientists)?


timpyles.files.wordpress.com

For the record, I made the first Farside reference in this thread.
 
2013-10-01 09:07:36 AM  
I just got rid of my cell phone and I'm doing just fine. If there's one human invention that I could erase from history forever, cell phones would be it.

/old and crotchety
//not really
///get off my lawn anyway
 
2013-10-01 09:20:08 AM  
Grew up with a party line (shared line with the neighbor) on the wall of the house.  Therefore people knew it was flat out rude to call every ten minutes, or after 9:00 pm disturbing several families.

Tech has obviously changed, but I still have no desire to have every impulsive thought shared among my friends and family.  It's easy, I've trained my family not to text me by flat out not responding to brainless texts.  I'll glance at the phone about as often as I check my email, once or twice per day.

When we talk in person we have deep meaningful conversations in which we have news to share with each other.  I prefer this to a running commentary.
 
2013-10-01 09:51:15 AM  
In America, you've know you've 'made it' when you no longer have the need or necessity to carry a cell phone around all the time.

that is True Freedom.


CallCentric.
 
2013-10-01 09:52:44 AM  
Cell Phone = Dog leash.


ain't Freedom great!
 
2013-10-01 11:03:31 AM  

Ima4nic8or: The funny thing is that the ass clowns left first thing in the morning.  Something that really befuddled me.  They had zero time to actually enjoy or explore the area before they moved on like bunch of roaches scurrying when the lights come on


CSB/ I was camping up on the cape with a lady friend, and two Quebecouis roll in @ 3 AM.
They are flaming gay, and thrashing about in the dark, and finally, I hear them say in French, Screw this, we're going to a hotel. And they leave.
I get up at dawn, and they have tossed out a brand new tent, identical to mine, and a cooler with enough food and beer for a weekend.
So hey, free tent and food.
End CSB.
 
2013-10-01 11:16:52 AM  
The only thing I can't stand about phones now is texting. It's useful if you want to send one message at a time to each other over a span of time but this thing of having entire conversations via texting is for the birds unless you're at a funeral or something.
 
2013-10-01 11:30:47 AM  
Okay, yes... I admit it. I've felt "phantom vibrations" from my phone, only to realize it's not in my pocket.

I just chalked it up to getting old age tremors or something. Nerve damage. Twitchy jeans. I dunno.

So this is a thing?
 
2013-10-01 11:31:27 AM  

Pick: Don't you just hate it when they have a cellphone ring in a commercial on the radio when you are driving? And it's your ring tone. And you almost get in a wreck, answering your phone that's NOT ringing?

Sent from my hospital bed,


I hate it more when a song has a police siren in it, and I happen to listen to it in my car.
 
2013-10-01 11:42:14 AM  
Solution...

walyou.com
 
2013-10-01 12:10:35 PM  

basemetal: What's this "We" shiat?

/You, maybe.........


This
 
2013-10-01 12:29:52 PM  

sure haven't: maybe one day you'll be happy enough where you don't have to be snarky on an anonymous website.


d2gbom735ivs5c.cloudfront.net
 
2013-10-01 12:39:19 PM  

sure haven't: Donnchadha: Well, maybe one day you'll be able to get a real job where you realize that you don't need to be "at work" 24/7 and can afford to turn the phone off.

Why would I turn it off? Did you miss the part where I also said it's the main method I use to keep in touch with family and friends?

Also, when did I say I disliked what I do? I probably made it sound worse than it is. I do need it on me at all times, but I thoroughly enjoy my day-to-day.

Best of luck in your life, maybe one day you'll be happy enough where you don't have to be snarky on an anonymous website.


firedaily.com
 
2013-10-01 01:14:05 PM  

the ha ha guy: sure haven't: I work in management and run a side business, and need to be contactable 24 hrs a day.


Are you paid 24 hours a day? No? Then you don't "need" to be contactable 24/7.

I do have (and use) a personal cell phone, but my employers only get the number to my google voice box, and if they do insist on me having a cell phone, they pay for it, and it gets turned off when my shift ends.

Sure, I do get in occasional arguments when some noob can't figure out the coffee maker and decides that the network engineer is the person to call, but otherwise I'm completely free from my job on weekends and holidays.


"Exempt" employees (such as myself) who are employed in a managerial capacity can often be required to be contactable 24/7. Legally (and yes I have researched this as well as spoken to a labor attorney - who happens to be a friend) my company does not need to compensate me for my 24/7 coverage beyond my agreed upon salary. Of course, knowing what you are getting into in a situation such as this you should be savvy enough to negotiate a wage that compensates appropriately for job expectations. Given my annual salary and benefits I don't kvetch about the occasional calls I get.

Obviously, in the IT field, the ball could go either way depending on state laws as well as the arrangement and status that have been declared by the employer/employee so as in many things mileage can vary....
 
2013-10-01 01:19:22 PM  
I haven't used the ringer on my phone in a decade (other then when I'm sleeping and need to it on just in case). I have had phantom leg vibrations in my right side for a few years now. I even get them when I'm not carrying my phone. Kind of annoying really. As for being obsessive about looking at my phone? 100% guilty. My job has required me to be 24/7 on-call for about 10 years now and as such I'm always reading emails, checking texts, etc. A few weeks ago I wanted to see how often I looked at my phone so I consciously made note every time I did it for a day and it was kind of sick how impulsive it was. Now I make an effort to set times (when not at work) that I will scan emails and try to avoid the cell as much as I can get away with.
 
2013-10-01 02:54:04 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: He's got a better job now, but In This Economy kids with degrees searching desperately for work are a f--king dime a dozen.  You know you can be replaced, and you know what it's like if you leave.  My Dad weathered through it til things picked up and headhunters started contacting him.  Again, less likely to happen if you're less than 5 years out of school.



If you've made it to the wage negotiation stage, chances are they're going to hire you whether you have a 24/7 leash or not. All you have to do is determine your on-call hours, ask them to provide the phone, and you're all set. If they refuse to do even that much for you, chances are they're just going to replace you with a cheaper employee in a few weeks anyway.
 
2013-10-01 03:40:57 PM  

MechaPyx: If people are that dependent on a phone imagine how farked they'll be if they're constantly jacked into something like Google glass.


Actually with Glass I can quickly look up at a notification/text/email and deem it not important instead of having to previously dig out my phone to check.
 
2013-10-01 08:58:07 PM  
"Phantom Vibrations" are nothing more than nerve reactions to stimulus. More often than not, it's a case of an object rubbing against near-surface bones, around the collarbone or the hip bone, or in more sensitive-to-touch areas like the crook of the inner thigh. It happens to everyone pretty much all the time, however, if we feel something ACTUALLY vibrating there(I.E. a phone in the pocket or a bluetooth neck-worn headset), it programs us to be aware of that particular nerve twitch response, and to assign to it, in our minds, that that means a phone is ringing. Simply put, we've always felt them, our brains have just never had an interpreting assignment for them.
 
2013-10-01 09:19:30 PM  
Got a tech support request at 5pm. It's currently 6. I might respond tonight... might.

/Guy sounds really desperate
//Phone in pants pocket
///Not wearing them
 
2013-10-02 10:29:39 AM  

vharshyde: "Phantom Vibrations" are nothing more than nerve reactions to stimulus. More often than not, it's a case of an object rubbing against near-surface bones, around the collarbone or the hip bone, or in more sensitive-to-touch areas like the crook of the inner thigh. It happens to everyone pretty much all the time, however, if we feel something ACTUALLY vibrating there(I.E. a phone in the pocket or a bluetooth neck-worn headset), it programs us to be aware of that particular nerve twitch response, and to assign to it, in our minds, that that means a phone is ringing. Simply put, we've always felt them, our brains have just never had an interpreting assignment for them.


So if I rub enough on a sensitive spot eventually it will start stimulating itself? Bullshiate!
 
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