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(Huffington Post)   House GOP: "How about this, Debt Ceiling Lift for Obamacare delay?" Senate Dem: "No, revise it. Be serious." House GOP: "How about this, Debt Ceiling Lift for Obamacare delay?" USA:"fark you"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 32
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2013-09-30 05:20:43 PM  
4 votes:

feckingmorons: I see the headline has it well put. The House proposed something, the Senate said no.

The senate didn't say, well can we delay it for 3 months? Can we compromise on something, they just said no. They have made up their minds not to negotiate and yet people fault the House.


 photos.imageevent.com
2013-09-30 08:00:16 PM  
3 votes:

feckingmorons: Carn: feckingmorons: I see the headline has it well put. The House proposed something, the Senate said no.

The senate didn't say, well can we delay it for 3 months? Can we compromise on something, they just said no. They have made up their minds not to negotiate and yet people fault the House.

feckingmorons, I demand you pay for TF for me for 1 year.

What do I get in return, a continuing resolution to fund the government? OK you've got a deal.


Why do you care about what you get in return? You're clearly just in it for yourself if all you care about is what you get in return. So just give Carn his 1 year of TF and we'll consider what we feel you deserve later.
2013-09-30 07:33:20 PM  
3 votes:

feckingmorons: I see the headline has it well put. The House proposed something, the Senate said no.

The senate didn't say, well can we delay it for 3 months? Can we compromise on something, they just said no. They have made up their minds not to negotiate and yet people fault the House.


How about this, you give me all your money and I get to kick you in the nuts every day? No, don't like that? What's your counter proposal? How often would you like to get kicked in the nuts after you give me all your money? Okay, how about this, you give me all your money and you get to get to receive my foot swiftly in your nuts every day. See, I've giving you something as part of the deal, my foot.

Why aren't you negotiating?
2013-09-30 06:58:59 PM  
3 votes:

vudutek: Dancin_In_Anson: what_now: Because we as a society have decided that health care is something we all pay for.

How much do you think you should be forced to pay for my heathcare?

How much do you think I should be forced to pay for our overbloated military?


Things that D_I_A is currently being forced to pay for:
- Housing relief for low-income families
- Oil subsidies to Exxon
- Agricultural subsidies to Monsanto
- Head Start programs for small children
- Food stamps for low-income families in Detroit
- The janitor whose job it is to clean the toilets at the Statue of Liberty
- Bamboo to feed the pandas at the National Zoo
- Hedge-trimming costs at Arlington National Cemetary
- President Obama's vacations
- My drink two weekends ago, which was paid for by my friend who is a Congressional staffer.

Thanks for the drink,  Dancing_in_Anson! I'll buy you one in return next time we hang.
2013-09-30 10:56:21 PM  
2 votes:
imageshack.us
2013-09-30 07:59:47 PM  
2 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Dancin_In_Anson: what_now: Because we as a society have decided that health care is something we all pay for.

How much do you think you should be forced to pay for my heathcare?

A: Enough to keep little poor kids from dying just because they're poor.


I was going to tell him a-buck-O-five.
2013-09-30 07:24:34 PM  
2 votes:
cinemafanatic.files.wordpress.com
2013-09-30 05:54:44 PM  
2 votes:

Carn: Rincewind53: Carn: feckingmorons: I see the headline has it well put. The House proposed something, the Senate said no.

The senate didn't say, well can we delay it for 3 months? Can we compromise on something, they just said no. They have made up their minds not to negotiate and yet people fault the House.

feckingmorons, I demand you pay for TF for me for 1 year.

If he doesn't at least pay for 1 month, he's being a complete absolutist. How dare he? It's his duty to compromise.

Ok ok, in order to keep the good faith negotiations going, I'll settle for 6 months.  Now that's a compromise!


Done. fecking, you now owe Carn six months of TF.
2013-09-30 05:50:35 PM  
2 votes:

Rincewind53: Carn: feckingmorons: I see the headline has it well put. The House proposed something, the Senate said no.

The senate didn't say, well can we delay it for 3 months? Can we compromise on something, they just said no. They have made up their minds not to negotiate and yet people fault the House.

feckingmorons, I demand you pay for TF for me for 1 year.

If he doesn't at least pay for 1 month, he's being a complete absolutist. How dare he? It's his duty to compromise.


Ok ok, in order to keep the good faith negotiations going, I'll settle for 6 months.  Now that's a compromise!
2013-09-30 05:20:58 PM  
2 votes:

Carn: feckingmorons: I see the headline has it well put. The House proposed something, the Senate said no.

The senate didn't say, well can we delay it for 3 months? Can we compromise on something, they just said no. They have made up their minds not to negotiate and yet people fault the House.

feckingmorons, I demand you pay for TF for me for 1 year.


If he doesn't at least pay for 1 month, he's being a complete absolutist. How dare he? It's his duty to compromise.
2013-09-30 11:01:58 PM  
1 votes:
Well Democrats, are you gonna own this shutdown or are you gonna blame the House for something the Democrat-controlled Senate didn't wish to compromise on?
2013-09-30 10:17:37 PM  
1 votes:

feckingmorons: TuteTibiImperes: feckingmorons:

There are many people who simply don't want insurance, a 25 year old college student may forgo insurance for beer money, or perhaps he wants a $10K deductible policy. He would be penailized for that.

Anyone under 30 can buy a high deductible 'catastrophic loss' plan and be good in terms of the ACA.

Ideally I'd like to see that moved up to 40, but things like that can be negotiated once things are rolling.

Could you show me that somewhere? If that is true that is good news, but I've never seen it.

Why can't we fix it before we 'get it rolling' ?


It was actually in the link from one of your previous posts, here's the direct page.
2013-09-30 09:37:41 PM  
1 votes:
24.media.tumblr.com
2013-09-30 09:31:26 PM  
1 votes:

feckingmorons: People simply won't go into medicine


Yes, this is why Europe has no doctors. Only shamanistic apothecaries.
2013-09-30 08:33:43 PM  
1 votes:

feckingmorons: Carn: feckingmorons: I see the headline has it well put. The House proposed something, the Senate said no.

The senate didn't say, well can we delay it for 3 months? Can we compromise on something, they just said no. They have made up their minds not to negotiate and yet people fault the House.

feckingmorons, I demand you pay for TF for me for 1 year.

What do I get in return, a continuing resolution to fund the government? OK you've got a deal.


Why won't you compromise?  This intransigence will not stand!  Let it be known that I very generously compromised with you but you haven't yet compromised with me.  As a further sign of my good faith, I will knock it down to 5 months of TF for me.  Just buy me 5 months and we'll call it square!
2013-09-30 08:33:32 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: mediablitz: Ah, the old "forced" crybaby argumentWhat happens if you don't follow the law...any law?


By that logic, I am by extension "forced" to not murder you in your sleep.

Right now, I really  really  really  really  really REALLY want to do so, because of how badly you're arguing at present.  Seriously, it hurts.  It should be considered assault.  It's that bad.
2013-09-30 07:44:58 PM  
1 votes:
i25.photobucket.com

We get Obamacare and you get DeLay back?  Deal.
2013-09-30 07:24:02 PM  
1 votes:

Rincewind53: Dancin_In_Anson: And now we're going to add 'free' heathcare for all to that list because it (like everything else you listed) the government has determined to be a moral duty.

Sure, if you'll admit that adding free healthcare to that list is not qualitatively a different kind of "forcing" than "forcing" you to pay for this little guy's bamboo:
[cdn.freelancestar.com image 600x342]


You don't get it.  God wanted Pandas to be extinct.  The zoo ruined God's plan.  Why am I paying for such blasphemy?
2013-09-30 07:11:18 PM  
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: No, I think the government should appoint a panel of medical professionals to make those decisions


So you will willingly give control of decisions that affect your healthcare to some panel of professionals. It's ok though, because you live a healthy lifestyle so it really won't affect you in any way...it's the people like that guy over there that will be culled.
2013-09-30 07:03:51 PM  
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: Coco LaFemme: birdmanesq: DamnYankees: Honestly, I think its valid to do this over a CR. The thing is, if you think about it, a CR is basically saying "we will keep funding the government as it currently exists". Well, there's no particularly reason to see "as it currently exists" as the baseline. The baseline can be anything. In that sense, the GOP does have a right to do this. I think its stupid and bad policy and bad politics, but its fundamentally a valid way to negotiate. I just think they will lose.

The debt ceiling is entirely different, and not in any way a valid negotiating point.

This comes down to a failure to budget--likely an intentional decision to continue to have these negotiating points every 90 days.

And I think that "budget" issues should be differentiated from "policy" issues. So, as disgusted as I was by the Sequester, at least it was germane.

What do the goddamn Germans have to do with this?

Barack sounds vaguely German.  Like Barackwurst.


Well, his people are known for their sausages.

i1148.photobucket.com
2013-09-30 07:03:45 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: What happens if you don't follow the law...any law?


Right now the law is facing you to pay taxes that went directly into buying me a drink two weekends ago.

Were you forced to buy me a drink?
2013-09-30 07:03:35 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: unyon: And don't drag freedom into the equation without considering the freedom from fear:

I fear my government more than I fear going broke.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume you're not suffering from a chronic life threatening illness while having substandard insurance.

img.pandawhale.com
2013-09-30 07:01:21 PM  
1 votes:

nmrsnr: ust out of curiosity, are you for the repeal of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, WIC, SNAP, and food stamps as well?


I don't have a problem with safety net programs. I think that SS is a farce and after watching how Medicare took care of my Father in the year preceding his death, (after paying into it from it's inception) I'm not a big fan of it either.

TuteTibiImperes: with a few limited exceptions


Who will make those? You?

vudutek: How much do you think I should be forced to pay for our overbloated military?


The military budget need cutting...big time.

mediablitz: Ah, the old "forced" crybaby argument


What happens if you don't follow the law...any law?
2013-09-30 07:00:39 PM  
1 votes:

Tigger: El_Perro: Dancin_In_Anson: what_now: Because we as a society have decided that health care is something we all pay for.

How much do you think you should be forced to pay for my heathcare?

How much do you think you should be forced to pay for my roads?  My police?

It is a cornerstone of republican economist shills that not a single one of them got to the chapter on externalities.


Externalities don't exist in the free market.

And, you know, free riders are those who are dependent on welfare.
2013-09-30 06:56:29 PM  
1 votes:

Coco LaFemme: birdmanesq: DamnYankees: Honestly, I think its valid to do this over a CR. The thing is, if you think about it, a CR is basically saying "we will keep funding the government as it currently exists". Well, there's no particularly reason to see "as it currently exists" as the baseline. The baseline can be anything. In that sense, the GOP does have a right to do this. I think its stupid and bad policy and bad politics, but its fundamentally a valid way to negotiate. I just think they will lose.

The debt ceiling is entirely different, and not in any way a valid negotiating point.

This comes down to a failure to budget--likely an intentional decision to continue to have these negotiating points every 90 days.

And I think that "budget" issues should be differentiated from "policy" issues. So, as disgusted as I was by the Sequester, at least it was germane.

What do the goddamn Germans have to do with this?


Barack sounds vaguely German.  Like Barackwurst.
2013-09-30 06:55:21 PM  
1 votes:

birdmanesq: DamnYankees: Honestly, I think its valid to do this over a CR. The thing is, if you think about it, a CR is basically saying "we will keep funding the government as it currently exists". Well, there's no particularly reason to see "as it currently exists" as the baseline. The baseline can be anything. In that sense, the GOP does have a right to do this. I think its stupid and bad policy and bad politics, but its fundamentally a valid way to negotiate. I just think they will lose.

The debt ceiling is entirely different, and not in any way a valid negotiating point.

This comes down to a failure to budget--likely an intentional decision to continue to have these negotiating points every 90 days.

And I think that "budget" issues should be differentiated from "policy" issues. So, as disgusted as I was by the Sequester, at least it was germane.


What do the goddamn Germans have to do with this?
2013-09-30 06:30:57 PM  
1 votes:
fark it.

Shoot the Hostage. Let's get this rolling.
2013-09-30 06:09:52 PM  
1 votes:

FlashHarry: a market-based solution, which obamacare is


It is ANYTHING but market based.
2013-09-30 06:00:40 PM  
1 votes:

feckingmorons: I see the headline has it well put. The House proposed something, the Senate said no.

The senate didn't say, well can we delay it for 3 months? Can we compromise on something, they just said no. They have made up their minds not to negotiate and yet people fault the House.


You can't possibly be this stupid without having some sort of court-appointed guardian. Are they supposed to let you on the internet this time of day?
2013-09-30 05:47:32 PM  
1 votes:

feckingmorons: I see the headline has it well put. The House proposed something, the Senate said no.

The senate didn't say, well can we delay it for 3 months? Can we compromise on something, they just said no. They have made up their minds not to negotiate and yet people fault the House.


It's almost as if 'people' are smarter than you isn't it?
2013-09-30 05:36:07 PM  
1 votes:
The Senate should send it back with one addition - agree to delay only the individual mandate for a year, but with rate freezes on all insurance policies so that the companies don't use it as an excuse to jack up premiums, and in exchange for that the GOP agrees to support legislation eliminating the need for a vote over the debt ceiling forevermore, it will just increase automatically by the needed amount from here out.
2013-09-30 05:18:38 PM  
1 votes:

feckingmorons: I see the headline has it well put. The House proposed something, the Senate said no.

The senate didn't say, well can we delay it for 3 months? Can we compromise on something, they just said no. They have made up their minds not to negotiate and yet people fault the House.


feckingmorons, I demand you pay for TF for me for 1 year.
 
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