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(Talking Points Memo)   Will the Senate override the house and pass the health care reform bill as written? Will the Tea Party politicians go through with the threatened shutdown? We find out today. It's your official Government Shutdown Threat thread   (talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
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2013-09-30 08:49:49 AM  
5 votes:
Okay guys, so I'm playing Civilization V and I just researched Obamacare.  Now all my cities are dying from sickness.  Help.
2013-09-30 02:07:05 PM  
3 votes:
Remember me????

www.killthehydra.com
2013-09-30 02:03:08 PM  
3 votes:

sprawl15: Mike_LowELL: Okay guys, so I'm playing Civilization V and I just researched Obamacare.  Now all my cities are dying from sickness.  Help.

[i.imgur.com image 585x299]


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2013-09-30 10:18:38 AM  
3 votes:
Not even 10AM central, and this is already getting depressing.  Let's liven things up a bit:

images.wikia.com


/even if you're not a pony fan
//it's still better than a government shutdown
2013-09-30 09:08:06 AM  
3 votes:

OlderGuy: if you want to keep America, we better clean house


Were you planning on starting with the Mexicans or did you want to stick with tradition and start with the Jews and homosexuals?
2013-09-30 08:42:02 AM  
3 votes:

Phineas: Anything that creates Democrat butthurt is OK with me.


^^^^^^^^ Hey, look everybody, it's part of the problem!!!!  ^^^^^^^^^
2013-09-30 08:34:48 AM  
3 votes:
Hi, everyone, whenever a Republican makes a prediction about the future, remember they seriously thought on Election Day that Mitt Romney was going to win
2013-09-30 06:17:25 PM  
2 votes:
At this point, I can sum up the GOP thusly:

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
2013-09-30 01:19:47 PM  
2 votes:

mrshowrules: wood0366: Two things:

Remember the credit rating for the UNITED STATES getting slashed the last time they pulled this shiat? To cause the credit rating of a first world country that seems to be the fiscal backbone of the planet slashed seems to be a rather bad idea.

Also, I'm still in the dark as to why 'tax and spend' seems to be a bad idea. I haven't heard any compelling reason why this /isn't/ the case.

Canada had its credit rating dropped in the 1980's.  You know how we recovered it?  By raising taxes.


 And that's why Canada is a post-apocalyptic hell hole that completely collapsed during the 2008-09 global economic meltdown.  How are you still able to post?
2013-09-30 11:54:36 AM  
2 votes:

SlothB77: If you don't have the money in the first place, don't eat the food.


Do you mean "order" the food or have you just never eaten somewhere that isn't a buffet?
2013-09-30 11:37:04 AM  
2 votes:

SlothB77: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Tman144: SlothB77: Is this the thread where we say republicans are terrorists for trying to control spending and prevent our country from bankrupting itself?

Right, republicans want to control spending. That's why they blew up the budget surplus the first chance they got.

Republicans only ever want to control spending when they're not the ones doing the spending.  They ran buck wild under George Bush when they had complete control.

We went to war.  That is a little different than spending money on pork.  Also, since we cut and ran from Iraq it is being overrun by al qaeda again, who is re-strengthening.  We saved money by getting out of Iraq ... until we get terrorized by Al Qaeda of Iraq.


I was told that the Mission was Accomplished way back in 2003.
2013-09-30 11:33:57 AM  
2 votes:

Aristocles: How much you wanna bet that BOB takes the free time to play golf?


Is golf more evil than clearing brush on a ranch? Is there a Scale of Evilness for Presidential Leiusure Activities we could refer to?
2013-09-30 11:25:40 AM  
2 votes:
To think all this could have been avoided with sane taxation policy, an educated electorate and honest government.

Ok, yeah, I realize how much of a pipe dream that was after typing it out.
2013-09-30 10:37:39 AM  
2 votes:

OlderGuy: And more food for thought...  ACA aka Obamacare authorizes the government to  monitor your bank accounts 'in near real time' and allows them to 'deduct' any fees and/ or penalties.. you can't stop it..  also, not connected with ACA, a push has been on for a while to enact a 1% transaction tax on your bank accounts.. all transactions..   did a GIS.. it,s there....  hows that hope and change working for you?


You left off the FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD
2013-09-30 08:58:45 AM  
2 votes:

sprawl15: [i.imgur.com image 585x299]


On it.  I also moved the capital from Washington to Wasilla to be safe.  Can't take any chances here.
2013-09-30 08:40:23 AM  
2 votes:

Brick-House: phrawgh: I certainly hope it is not too early to blame Obama!

How can we blame BOB, all he's done is play golf.


He is not a leader, he doesn't like America, he is out to destroy America, and he is doing it..  Our only hope now is that true Americans like Ted Cruz and the Conservative Party are joined by fellow Americans who are fed up with the antics of the Old Guard ( both parties) and throw them out.  Dump Obamacare and Obama, freeze the debt limit, and stop the reckless spending.  The Sleeping Giant better get off it's ass and get it's priorities in order, and do what needs to be done... the time is NOW !  Use it or lose it..   If obamacare is enacted, we,re done.  the government will be sleeping in our beds at night, looting our bank accounts, fully dictating how we live.. We are swirling the drain, people... get off your ass and put in the plug !
2013-09-30 08:35:17 AM  
2 votes:

Aristocles: hammer85: I love these assholes toying with my livelihood.  Because we all know its not like government employees have bills to pay or anything.

You're gonna get paid retroactively... you do know this, right?


Can they pay their mortgage, insurance, or credit car retroactively? Can they eat retroactively?

Can you be aborted, retroactively?

If the answer to all is yes, then by all means, proceed with the shutdown with my blessing.
2013-09-30 08:28:13 AM  
2 votes:

sprawl15: METH NAZIS KILL DUMBLEDORE


sprawl15, welcome to Fark.com.  You appear to be a new member.  Please consult the Forum Guidelines before posting.  If you have any questions about etiquette, you may consult a moderator.  If you have any questions about grammar and spelling, I recommend consulting 4chan.  That is all for now.  I hope I have made your day on Fark.com a pleasant experience.  If you have any other questions concerning thread etiquette, I will be happy to answer them.
2013-09-30 08:18:44 AM  
2 votes:

ransack.: Turfshoe: Is this the Breaking Bad thread?

I DIDN'T WATCH IT YET SILENCE


METH NAZIS KILL DUMBLEDORE
2013-09-30 08:17:29 AM  
2 votes:
www.ohgizmo.com
2013-09-30 08:17:04 AM  
2 votes:

Brick-House: Katolu: Brick-House: Turfshoe: Is this the Breaking Bad thread?

Obamscare as bad as method, so yeah

What method would that be?

By getting people addicted to government handouts instead of being self reliant.


Like farm and oil subsidies?
2013-09-30 08:11:44 AM  
2 votes:
Find out next week on SOAP!
2013-09-30 08:08:21 AM  
2 votes:
I expect reasoned and civil debate.
2013-09-30 03:41:21 PM  
1 vote:

Type_Hard: Looks like the House GOP is going to take another swing at Obamacare in the next round...

Shutdown looms as House GOP tries again on ObamaCare

/good luck with that..


What do they call doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
2013-09-30 02:27:58 PM  
1 vote:

LouDobbsAwaaaay: firefly212: Push come to shove, when the debt limit comes, and we're hours from sending the whole Global Economy into a tailspin, that idea may look a lot better to him.

I don't think he has the stones to do it.  He's a wimp.


Hell, I would have the coin minted, and bring it to the negotiations. Tell them to convince me NOT to walk over to the fed and deposit it, and start a kitchen timer for 30 minutes.
2013-09-30 02:18:43 PM  
1 vote:

I_C_Weener: trickymoo: I_C_Weener:

"If you prefer another spending cut target, a non-healthcare one, name the target!"


I'm very glad that you picked Tarkin; You want to show off your perceived power and will blow up any planet/ item that would make a big flashy boom, regardless of repercussions or public opinion.

The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the [democratically elected] Force
2013-09-30 01:59:33 PM  
1 vote:

trickymoo: I_C_Weener: James!: Democrats: We have to pay rent.
Republicans: I refuse to pay rent until you cancel your health insurance.
Democrats: What if we get sick?
Republicans: fark YOU! TREE OF LIBERTY!! CONSTITUTION!! SOCIALISM!!
Democrats: I want a new roommate.

Sorta.  Mine would be more along the lines of

Republicans:  I want to pay the rent, but you bought an insurance plan that we can't afford to pay AND pay rent.
Democrats:  We already bought it, quit whining.
Republicans:  Sorry.  We can't pay that and this and keep going this way.
Democrats:  Why not?  Its not our money.

If you prefer your scenario more, it neglects to mention that this insurance policy has already been written into the lease and shall be upheld.


lh4.googleusercontent.com

"If you prefer another spending cut target, a non-healthcare one, name the target!"
2013-09-30 01:56:35 PM  
1 vote:
Only a few more hours left!

i.qkme.me
2013-09-30 01:45:10 PM  
1 vote:

parasol: parasol: out of curiosity towards you smarter farkers

if shut down occurs and lasts until the debt ceiling limit deadline - and that passes without resolution what the hell happens to the country?  how, exactly, does the administration "fix" that sort of disaster?

can't happen, right?

Aristocles: Alright, stand back everyone, I'll handle this one.

To your first question: nothing.
To your second question: the BOB administration couldn't change a flat tire
To your third: You are correct. It's not gonna happen. The RINOs in the Teaparty and the GOP will cave like they always do. They're not willing to let BOB drive this country off the Grand Canyon.

Okay - your response is "nothing will happen and the nothing won't happen because the GOP won't let the country go off the Grand Canyon".  So, it's nothing but a potential going over a cliff.
(this is why I included "smart farkers") - will ignore this as "not helpful due to contrariness".


He is the new Bevets, only with fewer facts.
2013-09-30 01:38:05 PM  
1 vote:

Jormungandr: Mike_LowELL: Okay guys, so I'm playing Civilization V and I just researched Obamacare.  Now all my cities are dying from sickness.  Help.

Research "Universal Healthcare" quick!


It's actually a bug. Just find the a patch that fixes the "ALEC Rules" problem.
2013-09-30 01:09:54 PM  
1 vote:

parasol: out of curiosity towards you smarter farkers

if shut down occurs and lasts until the debt ceiling limit deadline - and that passes without resolution what the hell happens to the country?  how, exactly, does the administration "fix" that sort of disaster?

can't happen, right?


I'm given to understand that tax cuts for the wealthy fixes pretty much everything.
2013-09-30 12:46:19 PM  
1 vote:
Logic in Republican land.

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2013-09-30 12:29:36 PM  
1 vote:
Is it strange to think we could buy a couple less jet fighters and the ACA would be paid for?
2013-09-30 12:13:32 PM  
1 vote:
Dear Republicans:
michaelgraham.com

i1.ytimg.com
GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WORK THIS WAY. TAKE BACK THE SENATE AND WHITE HOUSE AND THEN REPEAL THE ACA. OR PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE WHICH IS NOT THE EXACT SAME BILL (BUT SUBMITTED BY YOU). UNTIL THEN STFU AND GBTW.

/is the ACA perfect? No. Single-payer would have been better. But the ACA is better than nothing.
//end rant
2013-09-30 12:03:43 PM  
1 vote:

DeaH: cman: DeaH: It's not negotiation unless both sides want opposite things. The Democrats want to avoid hurting the economy, so they want to raise the debt ceiling. If the Republicans think that's negotiable, then they want to harm the American economy. If that's what they want, who wants to give them anything?

They don't believe it will hurt the economy

It certainly hurt the economy the last time they didn't automatically raise the debt ceiling. The Republicans, as a whole, just cannot be that stupid, but, if they really are, then the Democrats only response can be a demand for the mass resignation of all Republicans.



Raise the debt ceiling but get some fiscal responsibility behind it.  Democrats just want government with a blank check and they are willing to wreck thing to get it.  The Democrats are the ones who should resign


Last shutdown was for 28 days and according to BBC radio this morning it was a pinprick on the overall  economy.
2013-09-30 12:03:02 PM  
1 vote:
i.imgur.com
2013-09-30 12:00:05 PM  
1 vote:

SlothB77: You guys talk like if the house wasn't controlled by a Republican majority, the democrats would spend frugally.  But we all know a Washington with democratic majorities in both branches would produce the kind of social largesse that would make Greece blush.  The Republicans in the house are the reason spending is being controlled to the extent it is under Obama


So the Republicans are shutting down the government for our own good?
2013-09-30 11:50:38 AM  
1 vote:
JusticeandIndependence:

Who is Bob?

Bob Dole.  But what he has to do with all this, I have no idea.
2013-09-30 11:44:03 AM  
1 vote:
Aristocles: Go ahead, defend the man that's holding America hostage!

Well - okay - orange isn't really that bad a color and, really, who doesn't tear up now and then? As for the drinking, i would probably, too, having to be Speaker of the House.
2013-09-30 11:33:05 AM  
1 vote:

HindiDiscoMonster: double post punchbuggy!
you owe me a coke.


I can't give you a coke over the internet.  Have some TF.
2013-09-30 11:31:24 AM  
1 vote:
SlothB: We went to war.  That is a little different than spending money on pork.

 I guess I can always consider no-bid government contracts for Halliburton "ham" - still not kosher, tho.
2013-09-30 11:20:34 AM  
1 vote:

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Republicans only ever want to control spending when they're not the ones doing the spending.  They ran buck wild under George Bush when they had complete control.


Yeah but remember, Bush wasn't a real fiscal conservative like every republican is now.
2013-09-30 11:12:06 AM  
1 vote:

I_C_Weener: James!: SlothB77: Is this the thread where we say republicans are terrorists for trying to control spending and prevent our country from bankrupting itself?

This is the equivalent of saying "We need to save money, stop paying our bills".

Or, stop paying ridiculous stuff, pay the bills instead...but we aren't borrowing any more to pay borrowed debt.

Or at least that is what it should be about.  Instead,  its about the Republicans saying that, but hanging an albatross around the negotiations by cutting Obamacare instead of...you know...useful stuff.  And the Senate refusing to come up with alternatives to raising the debt celing.

Republicans...no raising the debt ceiling...also we hate Obamacare, so we'll raise it if you drop that....so neither of us win.

Democrats...we have to raise the debt ceiling, period.

Buncha kids.


Democrats: We have to pay rent.
Republicans: I refuse to pay rent until you cancel your health insurance.
Democrats: What if we get sick?
Republicans: fark YOU! TREE OF LIBERTY!! CONSTITUTION!! SOCIALISM!!
Democrats: I want a new roommate.
2013-09-30 11:00:15 AM  
1 vote:

I_C_Weener: Prank Call of Cthulhu: I_C_Weener: spartacus_prime: Whoever wins, we lose.

If we changed the procedure in Congress to something like this, we all win.

a.  To propose a bill, you must either in man to man combat or by picking a champion, defeat the Majority Leader or Speaker.

b.  To filibuster, you must be able to hold the floor against a pack of rabid wolves let loose in the chamber.

c.  To propose an amendment which increases spending for the benefit of your constituents, you have to prove the existence of Big Foot with hair samples, and photographic evidence.

BUST A DEAL, FACE THE WHEEL!!!

/Also, d. Everytime you run for re-election, you lose a digit. Or appendage, once the digits are gone.

I like these ideas.  Keep them coming.


Every time someone has the floor to speak they are suspended with cables over a shark tank. Cables are automatically controlled by a computer running an American idol style voting scheme. Everyone watching at home can text 'up' or 'down' to raise or lower them an inch.

That'll get people watching c-span.
2013-09-30 10:56:09 AM  
1 vote:

ariseatex: I considered bringing in a cake today.  I couldn't decide whether to write "Yay! I'm non-essential!" or "Cake makes everything better...right?"  Then I realized it would take just one person not "finding it funny" to make a scene, so I brought nothing.

Maybe I'll bring a "welcome back" cake when this is all said and done.


Should have gone with, "Good luck, we're all counting on you"

\\or "Pray for Mojo"
2013-09-30 10:38:43 AM  
1 vote:

InmanRoshi: I'm not over exaggerating when I say I can smell the booze wafting from members as they walk off the floor.

- Ginger Gibson (@GingerGibson) September 29, 2013


I just assume most of our nation's lawmakers are tanked most of the time.  It's the most plausible explanation.
2013-09-30 10:34:53 AM  
1 vote:

spartacus_prime: Whoever wins, we lose.


If we changed the procedure in Congress to something like this, we all win.

a.  To propose a bill, you must either in man to man combat or by picking a champion, defeat the Majority Leader or Speaker.

b.  To filibuster, you must be able to hold the floor against a pack of rabid wolves let loose in the chamber.

c.  To propose an amendment which increases spending for the benefit of your constituents, you have to prove the existence of Big Foot with hair samples, and photographic evidence.
2013-09-30 10:32:30 AM  
1 vote:
I'm not over exaggerating when I say I can smell the booze wafting from members as they walk off the floor.
- Ginger Gibson (@GingerGibson) September 29, 2013

For all those asking for names, sorry, I didn't get close enough to figure out the source of the smell.
- Ginger Gibson (@GingerGibson) September 29, 2013

I def saw more than 1 member of congress putting a few back on Penn earlier. Ran into 2 in the liquor store.
- KateNocera (@KateNocera) September 29, 2013
2013-09-30 10:24:35 AM  
1 vote:
0.tqn.com
2013-09-30 10:07:20 AM  
1 vote:

cman: DeaH: It's not negotiation unless both sides want opposite things. The Democrats want to avoid hurting the economy, so they want to raise the debt ceiling. If the Republicans think that's negotiable, then they want to harm the American economy. If that's what they want, who wants to give them anything?

They don't believe it will hurt the economy


They specifically want to hurt the economy and America, because America rejected them in the last election.   They'll never grow to love America half as much as they hate it when a black Democrat is in office.   Right now they're like the homicidal psycho ex-boyfriend who goes to their ex-girlfriend's place of work and guns her and her co-workers down screaming "If I can't have you, no one can."
2013-09-30 10:06:38 AM  
1 vote:

there their theyre: Man the trolls are out this morning.


seriously.  the comments in this thread have been truly retarded.
2013-09-30 10:05:09 AM  
1 vote:

OlderGuy: zeroman987: QueenMamaBee: Aristocles: hammer85: I love these assholes toying with my livelihood.  Because we all know its not like government employees have bills to pay or anything.

You're gonna get paid retroactively... you do know this, right?

That doesn't pay the bills that are due during the shutdown... you do know that, right?

Actually, if you aren't essential, as about 900,000 people are categorized, you don't get back pay unless it is approved by congress. So, through no fault of their own, 900,000 gov't employees don't get paid because 20 potatoes want to privatize medicare and give another handout to their petrol buddies.

I am someone who should be the bread and butter for the republican party. I am very cautious when it comes to change and want to make sure any change to the status quo is well reasoned and debated to ensure its the right course; basically I am a conservate. However, I will never ever vote for any person with an (R) next to their name. They blew it. Anyone who votes for Republicans is not a conservative, at this point the republican party is filled with Fundys waiting for the apocalypse, the uber rich, and the unimformed.

No R voted for Obamacare..  would you buy something sight unseen?   I don't think so.. yet " lets pass the bill first.. NOW.... then we will see what,s in it"  ...  well, now we are seeing what,s in it...  I don't think most Americans are jumping with joy.. and it will get worse, and it won't get better.. Those that want to save this country are not D or R, who are too busy following the guy with the 'O' flute..  Hopefully we will wake up... we are 16+ trillion in debt ( actual number more like 70 trillion), printing 85 billion a month of currency based on air..  and all bubbles burst, in the end... our 'burst' will affect the world....  and the concussion will take us out... if that is what you want, keep on dickin' the chickin..... won't affect me much, but I feel bad for my nieces and nephews and those with families....  they will get to see the 'American Dream' turn into the 'North American Nightmare'....   think about it.......


You are a twit. There was plenty of time to read the ACA, that is why the members of congress have staffers: to read the legislation and advise them on it. These staffers are decently paid, intelligent, and will go on to do important things. This excuse of "sight unseen" is hokem and everyone knows it including you. How much do you get paid by the Kochs to spread this drivel?

It is potatoes like you that have ruined this country. You take and take and take and don't want to give back or even admit that you took anything. GFY troll.
2013-09-30 10:01:18 AM  
1 vote:

DeaH: cman: DeaH: It's not negotiation unless both sides want opposite things. The Democrats want to avoid hurting the economy, so they want to raise the debt ceiling. If the Republicans think that's negotiable, then they want to harm the American economy. If that's what they want, who wants to give them anything?

They don't believe it will hurt the economy

It certainly hurt the economy the last time they didn't automatically raise the debt ceiling. The Republicans, as a whole, just cannot be that stupid, but, if they really are, then the Democrats only response can be a demand for the mass resignation of all Republicans.


If Republicans want to cut the government services that are riddled with corruption and services that yield no results then we should absolutely call on them to resign.
2013-09-30 10:00:15 AM  
1 vote:

Fubini: Say what you will about congress, but we have one of the more productive governments in the world.


Kinda like a productive cough.
2013-09-30 09:58:16 AM  
1 vote:

cman: Uranus Is Huge!: Given how amazingly clairvoyant the Fark Derp Spreaders have been to date, I'm somewhat comforted by their doom & gloom predictions.

Using such verbose terms disregards the common educated person in their comprehension and enshrines oneself to neural entries of grand pomposity.


Somebody took a bong-hit!

Somebody took a bong-hit!
2013-09-30 09:49:17 AM  
1 vote:
Given how amazingly clairvoyant the Fark Derp Spreaders have been to date, I'm somewhat comforted by their doom & gloom predictions.
2013-09-30 09:45:09 AM  
1 vote:

HindiDiscoMonster: there their theyre: Man the trolls are out this morning.

they are not even trying either... just kind of phoning it in.


To the contrary; I have no doubt they are trying to the best of their capabilities.
2013-09-30 09:43:53 AM  
1 vote:

OlderGuy: zeroman987: QueenMamaBee: Aristocles: hammer85: I love these assholes toying with my livelihood.  Because we all know its not like government employees have bills to pay or anything.

You're gonna get paid retroactively... you do know this, right?

That doesn't pay the bills that are due during the shutdown... you do know that, right?

Actually, if you aren't essential, as about 900,000 people are categorized, you don't get back pay unless it is approved by congress. So, through no fault of their own, 900,000 gov't employees don't get paid because 20 potatoes want to privatize medicare and give another handout to their petrol buddies.

I am someone who should be the bread and butter for the republican party. I am very cautious when it comes to change and want to make sure any change to the status quo is well reasoned and debated to ensure its the right course; basically I am a conservate. However, I will never ever vote for any person with an (R) next to their name. They blew it. Anyone who votes for Republicans is not a conservative, at this point the republican party is filled with Fundys waiting for the apocalypse, the uber rich, and the unimformed.

No R voted for Obamacare..  would you buy something sight unseen?   I don't think so.. yet " lets pass the bill first.. NOW.... then we will see what,s in it"  ...  well, now we are seeing what,s in it...  I don't think most Americans are jumping with joy.. and it will get worse, and it won't get better.. Those that want to save this country are not D or R, who are too busy following the guy with the 'O' flute..  Hopefully we will wake up... we are 16+ trillion in debt ( actual number more like 70 trillion), printing 85 billion a month of currency based on air..  and all bubbles burst, in the end... our 'burst' will affect the world....  and the concussion will take us out... if that is what you want, keep on dickin' the chickin..... won't affect me much, but I feel bad for my nieces and nephews and those with famili ...


You know, I did think about it...for quite a while, and I've decided:

That post was full of derp.
2013-09-30 09:37:57 AM  
1 vote:

hasty ambush: While food inspections are essential do we really need a national raisin reserve?


really do we need raisins at all they are pretty gross i mean i know i dont want any mr obama stop making me pay for them
2013-09-30 09:34:56 AM  
1 vote:

Oblio13: Why does everyone seem to think that a few days without a huge, intrusive bureaucracy would be the end of the world?

The government shutting down "non-essential services" is like unemployed people going on strike. Most "non-essential services" are things it shouldn't be doing in the first place. 

Our leaders are alarming us so that we'll put pressure on their political opponents. Instead of being their frightened dupes, we should be telling them to make these cuts permanent.


Yeah. F*ck repairing the roads in Colorado before winter sets in. And who needs the EPA to monitor the contamination as the result of the recent flooding?
2013-09-30 09:17:03 AM  
1 vote:

OlderGuy: Publikwerks: This is such a bad move by the GOP. There is no way the Senate even looks at the House bill, and polls show that people are going to blame the GOP for the shutdown. And a majority of Americans are ambivalent about the ACA. So if they win, they don't win anything from moderates. And if they force the shutdown, they lose big.

Meanwhile, Democrats can just sit back and watch. They have passed a clean CR, so they can say "we've done our part" and walk away. They win if the House caves, they win if the House doesn't cave.

Matter of fact, the longer and more painful the shutdown is, the better it is for the Democrats. All they have to do is turn their DVR's on and record everything for next fall.

You are wrong.   The People know who is pushing this.. Obamacare is a disaster, the worst is yet to come.. all know it, many won't admit it.. Obama and the Old Guard don't care.. they got theirs already, now they want to take what little we have.. It is plain for all to see who is pushing this.. if you think 2010 was a wakeup, wait for 2014 and 2016...  if you want to keep America, we better clean house !  The Establishment is old and corrupt, only interested in furthering their cause at our expense.. it,s time to retire the 'good ol' boys'...  take off the blinders and look around.. we have regulated ourselves out of what made this country great..  everybody used to buy Quality from us.. now we buy Crap from them... One entity is causing this, plus all of their followers who don't want to give up the free stuff...

[i.imgur.com image 432x324]

And if you deny this, you are blind and stupid...   Please wake up.....


Now who can argue with that? I think we're all indebted to OlderGuy Johnson for clearly stating what needed to be said. I'm particulary glad that these lovely children were here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, it expressed a courage little seen in this day and age.
2013-09-30 09:16:12 AM  
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I think it's interesting that some people are up in arms because The House is using a parlimentary trick (defunding) to try to stop a law that was passed using a parlimentary trick (reconciliation).

I, personally, feel that any law passed using underhanded tactics is fair game to be struck down using similar tactics.
2013-09-30 09:07:47 AM  
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OlderGuy: if you think 2010 was a wakeup, wait for 2014 and 2016


Why did you skip over 2012?
2013-09-30 09:04:54 AM  
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Publikwerks: This is such a bad move by the GOP. There is no way the Senate even looks at the House bill, and polls show that people are going to blame the GOP for the shutdown. And a majority of Americans are ambivalent about the ACA. So if they win, they don't win anything from moderates. And if they force the shutdown, they lose big.

Meanwhile, Democrats can just sit back and watch. They have passed a clean CR, so they can say "we've done our part" and walk away. They win if the House caves, they win if the House doesn't cave.

Matter of fact, the longer and more painful the shutdown is, the better it is for the Democrats. All they have to do is turn their DVR's on and record everything for next fall.


You are wrong.   The People know who is pushing this.. Obamacare is a disaster, the worst is yet to come.. all know it, many won't admit it.. Obama and the Old Guard don't care.. they got theirs already, now they want to take what little we have.. It is plain for all to see who is pushing this.. if you think 2010 was a wakeup, wait for 2014 and 2016...  if you want to keep America, we better clean house !  The Establishment is old and corrupt, only interested in furthering their cause at our expense.. it,s time to retire the 'good ol' boys'...  take off the blinders and look around.. we have regulated ourselves out of what made this country great..  everybody used to buy Quality from us.. now we buy Crap from them... One entity is causing this, plus all of their followers who don't want to give up the free stuff...

i.imgur.com

And if you deny this, you are blind and stupid...   Please wake up.....
2013-09-30 08:47:54 AM  
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HindiDiscoMonster: dogdaze: In B4Hitler

he's on fark too? what's his fark handle?


Drew
2013-09-30 08:47:06 AM  
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Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: QueenMamaBee: Aristocles: QueenMamaBee: Aristocles: hammer85: I love these assholes toying with my livelihood.  Because we all know its not like government employees have bills to pay or anything.

You're gonna get paid retroactively... you do know this, right?

That doesn't pay the bills that are due during the shutdown... you do know that, right?

Well, maybe you should call your state representatives and BOB and tell them to pass the farking bill!

Thomas Massie can go fark himself.

Same for my Senate-asshats Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell.

It's great when your elected representatives always do exactly the opposite of what you want, isn't it?


I didn't vote for any of them.... and this is proof that Kentuckians shouldn't be able to vote for anything more important than American Idol.
2013-09-30 08:45:23 AM  
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i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
2013-09-30 08:41:10 AM  
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badhatharry: Publikwerks: badhatharry: Publikwerks: badhatharry: THE TEA PARTY IS NOT THREATENING SHUT DOWN! THEY DON'T WANT A SHUTDOWN! THEY WANT TO NEGOTIATE!

THE DEMOCRATS WANT THE SHUT DOWN! THEY REFUSE TO NEGOTIATE!


I can't take it anymore

Defunding/postponing the ACA is a higher priority to them, otherwise, the house would have passed a clean funding bill like the Senate did. It is their fault.

That is what they were elected to do. The Senate has to negotiate with them. The Senate is saying we don't like it so you get nothing.

Well, no, they don't. Since polls show most people are gonna blame the GOP, there is little reason to negotiate. The ACA is a lost cause. It's in effect, and is not going anywhere.

That is exactly why there will be a shutdown. The democrats would actually like a delay but they know the republicans will get blamed for the shutdown. That is why they are pushing for a shutdown.


ITS A CONSPIRACY
2013-09-30 08:39:00 AM  
1 vote:
ilk.uvt.nl

Shall we play a game?
2013-09-30 08:34:16 AM  
1 vote:

Mike_LowELL: sprawl15: i once built a bicycle out of old cigarette machine parts

This gon' be a guuuuuuud thred, boys.


We girls will try to counteract all the testosterone-fueled idiocy. :)
2013-09-30 08:33:24 AM  
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badhatharry: THE TEA PARTY IS NOT THREATENING SHUT DOWN! THEY DON'T WANT A SHUTDOWN! THEY WANT TO NEGOTIATE!



Negotiating is generally done in reasonable volume levels, NOT SCREAMIING!

/Tea party "wants to negotiate" like my kid "wants" to share.
2013-09-30 08:32:14 AM  
1 vote:
How do you shut down something which does nothing?

It's like turning off a rock...
2013-09-30 08:31:19 AM  
1 vote:

sprawl15: i once built a bicycle out of old cigarette machine parts


This gon' be a guuuuuuud thred, boys.
2013-09-30 08:30:51 AM  
1 vote:

ransack.: Turfshoe: Is this the Breaking Bad thread?

I DIDN'T WATCH IT YET SILENCE


It was weird how Walt became a lumberjack.
2013-09-30 08:30:33 AM  
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"Ser Ilyn, bring me Obamacare's head!"

Sen. Rafael "Joffrey" Cruz (R-TX)
2013-09-30 08:30:26 AM  
1 vote:

Mike_LowELL: sprawl15: METH NAZIS KILL DUMBLEDORE

sprawl15, welcome to Fark.com.  You appear to be a new member.  Please consult the Forum Guidelines before posting.  If you have any questions about etiquette, you may consult a moderator.  If you have any questions about grammar and spelling, I recommend consulting 4chan.  That is all for now.  I hope I have made your day on Fark.com a pleasant experience.  If you have any other questions concerning thread etiquette, I will be happy to answer them.


i once built a bicycle out of old cigarette machine parts
2013-09-30 08:25:02 AM  
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sprawl15: ransack.: Turfshoe: Is this the Breaking Bad thread?

I DIDN'T WATCH IT YET SILENCE

METH NAZIS KILL DUMBLEDORE


cdn7.nflximg.net
2013-09-30 08:23:54 AM  
1 vote:
Good morning, everyone.  Reporting for duty.

*clears throat*
2013-09-30 08:23:33 AM  
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hammer85: I love these assholes toying with my livelihood.  Because we all know its not like government employees have bills to pay or anything.


Government employees are leeches. What with their mortgages, and car loans, and all the money they spend on food, and clothing, and sending their kids to school, government employees are nothing but a drain on the economy. I'll bet those leeches even spend money on vacations and save money for retirement.
2013-09-30 08:22:56 AM  
1 vote:
I've resigned myself to the understanding that a significant fraction of the House see Mad Max II: Beyond Thunderdome as an acceptable alternative to a successful and working health care system.
2013-09-30 08:22:05 AM  
1 vote:
Game of Thrones, Congressional Red Wedding Edition.

/ didn't see that episode yet.
MFK
2013-09-30 08:20:33 AM  
1 vote:

badhatharry: THE TEA PARTY IS NOT THREATENING SHUT DOWN! THEY DON'T WANT A SHUTDOWN! THEY WANT TO NEGOTIATE!

THE DEMOCRATS WANT THE SHUT DOWN! THEY REFUSE TO NEGOTIATE!


I can't take it anymore


You really think the Tea Party is negotiating?

I suppose in a way it is... in the same way that if you lent your friend $50 and asked him to pay you back and he said, "well sure I'll pay you back, but only if you let me fark your wife first."

But for most people, making unreasonable demands that have zero chance of being met isn't considered "negotiating"
2013-09-30 08:19:12 AM  
1 vote:
I'm in the Eastern Hemisphere, so it's already Monday night here.  Therefore, I know what happens Monday afternoon in DC.

I won't tell you.  But, it IS scary.

/all praise the time cube
2013-09-30 08:18:16 AM  
1 vote:
pixel.nymag.com
2013-09-30 08:17:49 AM  
1 vote:
Vader kills Dumbledore.
2013-09-30 08:16:59 AM  
1 vote:

I_C_Weener: Turfshoe: Is this the Breaking Bad thread?

They were dead on the island the whole time?


No no no. They escaped the island, made it back to land, had two hours of hijinx, then ended up back on the island again.
2013-09-30 08:15:59 AM  
1 vote:

ransack.: Turfshoe: Is this the Breaking Bad thread?

I DIDN'T WATCH IT YET SILENCE


Snape kills White
2013-09-30 08:15:18 AM  
1 vote:

Turfshoe: Is this the Breaking Bad thread?


They were dead on the island the whole time?
2013-09-30 08:14:14 AM  
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Both sides are wrong, so vote for me! I promise a chicken in every pot, and all the members of the WBC will be sent to Gitmo
2013-09-30 08:14:05 AM  
1 vote:
In just to say fark Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul.

/regardless of the outcome, I just really hate them
2013-09-30 08:08:34 AM  
1 vote:
In B4Hitler
 
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