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2013-09-30 07:54:41 AM  
ilk.uvt.nl

The computer eventually did learn when to give up. These farktards are delusional.
 
2013-09-30 08:38:39 AM  
But don't you dare call them racists.
 
2013-09-30 08:41:59 AM  
Issa needs to be locked in a padded room far away from sharp objects.
 
2013-09-30 08:42:43 AM  

vudukungfu: But don't you dare call them racists.


Umm, what?
 
2013-09-30 08:43:03 AM  
Ahh...the righteous indignation of liars, con men, and reprobates.

Issa's the kind of guy who cuts you off in traffic then gives you the finger.
 
2013-09-30 08:43:07 AM  
They're belatedly trying to control the message and spin this in their favor.

The absolute GALL they have to try to blame this on the Democrats and the President is astounding, not to mention the manner in which they're going about this.

One optimistic Republican, echoing many others, said that a delay ought to be agreeable since the GOP had started out with a much more extreme position. "You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).

ARE YOU farkING KIDDING ME?
 
2013-09-30 08:49:14 AM  
If you were to call these people turds, you'd get an angry letter from the ATDL (Anti Turd-Defamation League) demanding you cease and desist from this pernicious slander of good turds everywhere. And they'd be right.
 
2013-09-30 08:51:34 AM  
How in the world do such blatant and idiotic liars consistently get re-elected? Wow.
 
2013-09-30 08:52:02 AM  
The geniuses in the Tea Party are just gunning to minimize the 2014 midterm gains.
 
2013-09-30 08:52:49 AM  

SilentStrider: Issa needs to be locked in a padded room far away from sharp objects.


The only problem is that the folks he represents think he is sane.

Completely sane. So just think about the people in Eastern San Diego County for a minute in that light and then you understand why they think having BlackWater open a training camp is good for the area.
 
2013-09-30 08:57:03 AM  

Ricardo Klement: The geniuses in the Tea Party are just gunning to minimize the 2014 midterm gains.


If they are working for the Democrats then they *are* all geniuses.  Somehow I doubt that's the case.
 
2013-09-30 08:57:11 AM  

Aristocles: improved


I don't think that word means what you think it means
 
2013-09-30 08:57:51 AM  

jakomo002: How in the world do such blatant and idiotic liars consistently get re-elected? Wow.


Because everyone hates Congress except they believe that their state sent the right people
 
2013-09-30 08:58:03 AM  

SilentStrider: Issa needs to be locked in a padded room far away from sharp flammable objects.


FTFY.
 
2013-09-30 08:59:05 AM  

farker99: The only problem is that the folks he represents think he is sane.


Issa, Bachman, Gohmert, King... this is the fruit of the idiots being about to put in their own districts and gerrymander.

It's time for computers to create districts.  Creating algorithms to do it is trivial.  We have to let the sane start speaking over the insane again.
 
2013-09-30 08:59:55 AM  

cman: jakomo002: How in the world do such blatant and idiotic liars consistently get re-elected? Wow.

Because everyone hates Congress except they believe that their state sent the right people


Well I don't.  My state reps are all idiots.
 
2013-09-30 09:00:15 AM  

d23: Ricardo Klement: The geniuses in the Tea Party are just gunning to minimize the 2014 midterm gains.

If they are working for the Democrats then they *are* all geniuses.  Somehow I doubt that's the case.


The Tea Party is performance art that failed to properly establish itself as satire, thus attracting a following of confused, delusional people who thought the original performers were actually serious.  My years long hatred of performance art in all its forms has been thoroughly vindicated since 2010.
 
2013-09-30 09:01:54 AM  
FTA: "Much of the GOP thinking seems to be rooted in the fact that Obama has already delayed some provisions. So why not delay the whole law? "

See Democrats?  Those of us who are prior Republicans tried to tell you.  Dealing with a conservative is like dealing with a teenager.  If you give in on something it is NOT seen as rational compromise.  It is seen as weakness.  It doesn't foster cooperation it encourages more conflict.

You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.
 
2013-09-30 09:02:44 AM  

d23: farker99: The only problem is that the folks he represents think he is sane.

Issa, Bachman, Gohmert, King... this is the fruit of the idiots being about to put in their own districts and gerrymander.

It's time for computers to create districts.  Creating algorithms to do it is trivial.  We have to let the sane start speaking over the insane again.


I have this recurring dream where the DOJ finds some sort of technicality that allows the President to mandate nationwide computerized redistricting via Executive Order.  I always wake up with a large smile and sheets that need to be changed.
 
2013-09-30 09:03:10 AM  

Aristocles: House Republicans Really Believe Democrats Will Cave On Obamacare To Avoid A Government Shutdown

This is a moot point as the teabagger want a govt shut down and they want Obamacare to be defunded/repealed/improved.

It's really a win-win for teabagger.

Checkmate, BOB.


Like all conservatives, always willing to claim victory for winning a game where they can set up the pieces as they please.
 
2013-09-30 09:05:51 AM  
Really, this is all JOBOs fault - he could just bring an up or down vote in the house, and let the problem sort itself out. Pity JOBO is spineless.
 
2013-09-30 09:06:35 AM  

jakomo002: How in the world do such blatant and idiotic liars consistently get re-elected? Wow.


theeverlastinggopstoppers.com
This is Elbridge Gerry. FANS OF DEMOCRACY HATE THIS GUY!!!  Using his one little trick will keep you in office, even if public support is against you.
 
2013-09-30 09:07:34 AM  
Issa's crooked as a broken penis, but he's not stupid.  He'll vote for a shutdown as long as it's safe to vote for a shutdown and no longer.  It's the true believers you really have to worry about.
 
2013-09-30 09:08:12 AM  

maddermaxx: Really, this is all JOBOs fault - he could just bring an up or down vote in the house, and let the problem sort itself out. Pity JOBO is spineless.


It's already law.  Where were the GOP spines when it passed?
 
2013-09-30 09:08:21 AM  

EyeballKid: jakomo002: How in the world do such blatant and idiotic liars consistently get re-elected? Wow.

[theeverlastinggopstoppers.com image 525x645]
This is Elbridge Gerry. FANS OF DEMOCRACY HATE THIS GUY!!!  Using his one little trick will keep you in office, even if public support is against you.


I love you.
 
2013-09-30 09:08:33 AM  

cman: vudukungfu: But don't you dare call them racists.

Umm, what?


scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-09-30 09:09:48 AM  

Aristocles: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: Aristocles: House Republicans Really Believe Democrats Will Cave On Obamacare To Avoid A Government Shutdown

This is a moot point as the teabagger want a govt shut down and they want Obamacare to be defunded/repealed/improved.

It's really a win-win for teabagger.

Checkmate, BOB.

Like all conservatives, always willing to claim victory for winning a game where they can set up the pieces as they please.

It's called strateegery.

Read a book sometime.


Being born on third isn't a strategy.
 
2013-09-30 09:10:55 AM  

AngryDragon: FTA: "Much of the GOP thinking seems to be rooted in the fact that Obama has already delayed some provisions. So why not delay the whole law? "

See Democrats?  Those of us who are prior Republicans tried to tell you.  Dealing with a conservative is like dealing with a teenager.  If you give in on something it is NOT seen as rational compromise.  It is seen as weakness.  It doesn't foster cooperation it encourages more conflict.

You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.


I don't really like the "teenager" analogy, basically because the majority of teenagers I've known in my life have MUCH better reasoning ability than people in the tea party.

The bigger problem is that our national debate these days is pretty much between simpletons.  Every debate is a false dilemma.  Look at the tendency to put people into "socialist" and "capitalist" camps.  The U.S. has no real socialists right now.   We don't have a pure capitalist economy either.  Why?  Because those extremes give poor results.  If we had single payer healthcare we wouldn't suddenly be a socialist country, we'd still be a capitalist country with certain social programs.

But we can't argue in shades of grey anymore.  We have a party that can't compromise on anything because they are involved in childish purity testing and another party that can't stand up and call them on the shenanigans for fear of alienating their own corporate masters.  This is as farked up as politics in the country has ever gotten as far as my knowledge of history goes.

(Except maybe for the 1910s and 1920s, and the fact that the politics has a lot of resemblances to that period of history is downright horrifying.)
 
2013-09-30 09:12:02 AM  
"I have never foreseen a government shutdown and I continue not to see a government shutdown," said Rep. Rob Woodall (R-Ga.),

Oh, really, douchebag.


"But to us, here in Georgia, shutting down the government is not a drastic solution.  It may just be the only arrow we have left in our equipment."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rVBg-ZVXKw

Do these retards understand that recording things means people can go back and listen to what they said at a later time?
 
2013-09-30 09:12:44 AM  

Doctor Funkenstein: "I have never foreseen a government shutdown and I continue not to see a government shutdown," said Rep. Rob Woodall (R-Ga.),

Oh, really, douchebag.


"But to us, here in Georgia, shutting down the government is not a drastic solution.  It may just be the only arrow we have left in our equipment."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rVBg-ZVXKw

Do these retards understand that recording things means people can go back and listen to what they said at a later time?


Do puppets have memories?
 
2013-09-30 09:13:10 AM  

AngryDragon: You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.


How? The voters routinely fail to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in office. The shutdown and impeachment in the 90s had absolutely no short-term effect on the balance of power, and by 2002 the GOP was in full control of both elected branches of government. I have serious doubts that the GOP's actions this time around will come at a significant electoral price.
 
2013-09-30 09:14:06 AM  

EyeballKid: This is Elbridge Gerry. FANS OF DEMOCRACY HATE THIS GUY!!!  Using his one little trick will keep you in office, even if public support is against you.


Can gerrymandering be the only thing to blame?

Seriously. A lot of these elected officials, if they worked in your office, would be fired for gross incompetence and the butt of everyone's jokes leading up to the moment of their dismissal.

I mean, they're politicians and they can't even lie convincingly.  It's a basic requirement.

/I assume the main requirement is be a millionaire and stupid
 
2013-09-30 09:14:21 AM  
This is good, common middle ground that is in this package

Good common middle ground...giving the GOP everything they want.

How delusional must one be to believe the House budget bill is middle ground?
 
2013-09-30 09:15:55 AM  
The happy talk is not just for public consumption. "House Rs, even in priv[ate], can't concede yet that their delay CR will fail; have to see it fail and then mull options," Robert Costa of National Review https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO/status/384119474061725696" target="_hplink">tweeted on Saturday evening.

im getting mixed signals

i know some of this is pure theatre
as in the post above me

but then theres the quote from the articile: "The happy talk is not just for public consumption. "House Rs, even in priv[ate], can't concede yet that their delay CR will fail; have to see it fail and then mull options," Robert Costa of National Review https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO/status/384119474061725696" target="_hplink">tweeted on Saturday evening. "
 
2013-09-30 09:16:02 AM  

Doctor Funkenstein: "I have never foreseen a government shutdown and I continue not to see a government shutdown," said Rep. Rob Woodall (R-Ga.),

Oh, really, douchebag.


"But to us, here in Georgia, shutting down the government is not a drastic solution.  It may just be the only arrow we have left in our equipment."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rVBg-ZVXKw

Do these retards understand that recording things means people can go back and listen to what they said at a later time?


Sure WE can, but they know their base can't or won't.
Is FOX or RUSH going to call them out on this? no? then their base still loves 'em.
 
2013-09-30 09:16:24 AM  
Wile E Coyote goes to Washington.
 
2013-09-30 09:16:29 AM  

jakomo002: EyeballKid: This is Elbridge Gerry. FANS OF DEMOCRACY HATE THIS GUY!!!  Using his one little trick will keep you in office, even if public support is against you.

Can gerrymandering be the only thing to blame?

Seriously. A lot of these elected officials, if they worked in your office, would be fired for gross incompetence and the butt of everyone's jokes leading up to the moment of their dismissal.

I mean, they're politicians and they can't even lie convincingly.  It's a basic requirement.

/I assume the main requirement is be a millionaire and stupid


The failure of the average voter to see all the puppetry going on right now just blows my mind.  The other main requirement you missed the ability to take orders from corporate donors.
 
2013-09-30 09:20:10 AM  
They really think the Senate's gonna blink? What in the actual fark.
 
2013-09-30 09:21:35 AM  
The Republicans know the ACA will actually work and people will like it.  If they get a year delay, they can continue to play the "ooga-booga" card through the 2014 election cycle.  If they don't, they got nuthin.

It's no more complicated than that.
 
2013-09-30 09:24:45 AM  

urbangirl: The Republicans know the ACA will actually work and people will like it.  If they get a year delay, they can continue to play the "ooga-booga" card through the 2014 election cycle.  If they don't, they got nuthin.

It's no more complicated than that.


If they get the year delay, they'll just ask for another year delay when next year's budget negotiations start.
 
2013-09-30 09:26:04 AM  

LandOfChocolate: They're belatedly trying to control the message and spin this in their favor.

The absolute GALL they have to try to blame this on the Democrats and the President is astounding, not to mention the manner in which they're going about this.

One optimistic Republican, echoing many others, said that a delay ought to be agreeable since the GOP had started out with a much more extreme position. "You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).

ARE YOU farkING KIDDING ME?


My mind goes straight to, "Okay, so I've been telling you to kill yourself for months. Now, you don't agree with that but I'll make a big concession. Why don't you just seriosuly maim yourself?"

and now I want to use that in a real conversation...
 
2013-09-30 09:28:11 AM  

EyeballKid: jakomo002: How in the world do such blatant and idiotic liars consistently get re-elected? Wow.

[theeverlastinggopstoppers.com image 525x645]
This is Elbridge Gerry. FANS OF DEMOCRACY HATE THIS GUY!!!  Using his one little trick will keep you in office, even if public support is against you.


Wow, he even looks like a smug coont.  What a guy.
 
2013-09-30 09:34:07 AM  

Caffienatedjedi: My mind goes straight to, "Okay, so I've been telling you to kill yourself for months. Now, you don't agree with that but I'll make a big concession. Why don't you just seriosuly maim yourself?"

and now I want to use that in a real conversation...


And, in exchange, we agree that we won't kill the rest of your family.
 
2013-09-30 09:34:11 AM  

Aristocles: House Republicans Really Believe Democrats Will Cave On Obamacare To Avoid A Government Shutdown

This is a moot point as the teabagger want a govt shut down and they want Obamacare to be defunded/repealed/improved.

It's really a win-win for teabagger.

Checkmate, BOB.


so, I was on vacation for a week and a half and didn't get on here at all, I see you're still trying that BOB thing, has it caught on yet?

also, after thinking about it, I've come to the conclusion that you really are the most brilliant troll there is on here, most of your posts are so comically nonsensical that I'm thinking you're just doing a bad character.

Bravo, sir.
 
2013-09-30 09:36:15 AM  

yukichigai: d23: Ricardo Klement: The geniuses in the Tea Party are just gunning to minimize the 2014 midterm gains.

If they are working for the Democrats then they *are* all geniuses.  Somehow I doubt that's the case.

The Tea Party is performance art that failed to properly establish itself as satire, thus attracting a following of confused, delusional people who thought the original performers were actually serious.  My years long hatred of performance art in all its forms has been thoroughly vindicated since 2010.


The TP movement was a brilliant, well-orchistrated push to get states to elect Republican legislators and governors who would gerrymander the shiat outta their states.  It worked.  Now they're safe to pull this crap without reprocussions.

Performance art?  Yup...major league performance art.
 
2013-09-30 09:36:58 AM  

LandOfChocolate: They're belatedly trying to control the message and spin this in their favor.

The absolute GALL they have to try to blame this on the Democrats and the President is astounding, not to mention the manner in which they're going about this.

One optimistic Republican, echoing many others, said that a delay ought to be agreeable since the GOP had started out with a much more extreme position. "You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).

ARE YOU farkING KIDDING ME?


And they are only offering to extend the CR for 2 months.
I'll give you 2 months of spending, you give me a year of suspension. And in another 2 months we'll ask for even more.

Switch it around, suspend for 2 months in exchange for a year of suspension and you MIGHT get some votes.
 
2013-09-30 09:37:48 AM  

xxcorydxx: Bravo, sir.


[yourenothelping.jpg]
 
2013-09-30 09:38:06 AM  

MindStalker: year of suspension


year of spending.
 
2013-09-30 09:39:19 AM  

xxcorydxx: Aristocles: House Republicans Really Believe Democrats Will Cave On Obamacare To Avoid A Government Shutdown

This is a moot point as the teabagger want a govt shut down and they want Obamacare to be defunded/repealed/improved.

It's really a win-win for teabagger.

Checkmate, BOB.

so, I was on vacation for a week and a half and didn't get on here at all, I see you're still trying that BOB thing, has it caught on yet?

also, after thinking about it, I've come to the conclusion that you really are the most brilliant troll there is on here, most of your posts are so comically nonsensical that I'm thinking you're just doing a bad character.

Bravo, sir.


The GOP is flushing the country down the toilet and he thinks it's a good time for more schtick.  It's sickening.
 
2013-09-30 09:41:55 AM  

qorkfiend: AngryDragon: You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.

How? The voters routinely fail to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in office. The shutdown and impeachment in the 90s had absolutely no short-term effect on the balance of power, and by 2002 the GOP was in full control of both elected branches of government. I have serious doubts that the GOP's actions this time around will come at a significant electoral price.


Stop compromising with them.  Period.  I know it sounds ridiculous but that's what needs to be done.  The government is completely dysfunctional anyway.  A few months of just cutting them out of the mix can't do any more damage.  Whoever is rational left in the Republican party will get the message quickly and begin housecleaning.

I hate to say this but you know what I and a large part of the rest of the country is expecting?  I expect the Dems to cave at the last minute and delay the ACA by a year.  Just like they caved on the filibuster rule.  Despite the fact that the ACA is desired by 3/4 of the country, has been upheld as the law of the land, and most importantly will SAVE LIVES, I fear the Dems will capitulate.

The Democrats talk a good game.  You know what the difference is tactically between the Ds and Rs?  The Rs will do what they threaten to do.  This has always been the Ds problem and everyone knows it.  The Rs have turned manipulating that flaw into an art form.
 
2013-09-30 09:42:05 AM  

d23: farker99: The only problem is that the folks he represents think he is sane.

Issa, Bachman, Gohmert, King... this is the fruit of the idiots being about to put in their own districts and gerrymander.

It's time for computers to create districts.  Creating algorithms to do it is trivial.  We have to let the sane start speaking over the insane again.


That is how most countries do it, even before computers. Algorithmically. And you do have to give it a pass over with a human eye regardless so that you don't have some asinine situation like dudes x, y, and z having their rep being 50 miles away instead of the guy next door because the actual population distribution did not fall neatly.
But whurbleburble state's rights garbl.
 
2013-09-30 09:43:06 AM  
Gee, what a surprise, no plan B.

And every time it looks like there MIGHT be a compromise, they throw another Easter Egg in the basket.

These guys are just a front for the Tea Baggers.
 
2013-09-30 09:43:57 AM  

LandOfChocolate: They're belatedly trying to control the message and spin this in their favor.

The absolute GALL they have to try to blame this on the Democrats and the President is astounding, not to mention the manner in which they're going about this.

One optimistic Republican, echoing many others, said that a delay ought to be agreeable since the GOP had started out with a much more extreme position. "You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).

ARE YOU farkING KIDDING ME?


So if I went from saying Scott Garrett should castrate himself with a nail file to saying he should just have one testical removed professionally, would he consider that a big concession?
 
2013-09-30 09:45:12 AM  

Diogenes: xxcorydxx: Aristocles: House Republicans Really Believe Democrats Will Cave On Obamacare To Avoid A Government Shutdown

This is a moot point as the teabagger want a govt shut down and they want Obamacare to be defunded/repealed/improved.

It's really a win-win for teabagger.

Checkmate, BOB.

so, I was on vacation for a week and a half and didn't get on here at all, I see you're still trying that BOB thing, has it caught on yet?

also, after thinking about it, I've come to the conclusion that you really are the most brilliant troll there is on here, most of your posts are so comically nonsensical that I'm thinking you're just doing a bad character.

Bravo, sir.

The GOP is flushing the country down the toilet and he thinks it's a good time for more schtick.  It's sickening.


for what it's worth, I really don't believe that any of the people selling the GOP message actually believe it, since it's gotten so far out there. The smart ones (the ones that are making the money) are just putting on an act to get rich.

it's really turned into pro wrestling, and the american people are too farking stupid to see that it's fake.

we should be ashamed of ourselves.
 
2013-09-30 09:46:20 AM  

AngryDragon: I fear the Dems will capitulate.


Senate, maybe a handful in "purple" states.  Obama? Not a chance.
 
2013-09-30 09:46:33 AM  

xxcorydxx: we should be ashamed of ourselves.


Can't disagree.
 
2013-09-30 09:52:49 AM  

starsrift: Algorithmically


Algorithms can be biased. And there is always the problem of GIGO. Also, it's worth noting that gerrymandering can empower the politically disenfranchised as well- if you carve up naively based on population, you may slice a minority demographic into multiple voting districts. In an ideal world, this wouldn't be a problem, but we don't live in that world. By giving minorities the opportunity to vote as a block and have a representative who reflects their interests, we make the political process more fair.

The problem, of course, is that it can be abused.

The solution to abuse isn't to try and invent some "impartial" system. First, because it won't be impartial, and second, because even an "impartial" system will likely fail to be  fair. The solution is to identify and correct abuse when it happens, and to make abuse more difficult by having more checks and balances to control the process.
 
2013-09-30 09:53:39 AM  
Can you please stop responding to the tard?
 
2013-09-30 09:54:18 AM  

AngryDragon: I hate to say this but you know what I and a large part of the rest of the country is expecting? I expect the Dems to cave at the last minute and delay the ACA by a year. Just like they caved on the filibuster rule. Despite the fact that the ACA is desired by 3/4 of the country, has been upheld as the law of the land, and most importantly will SAVE LIVES, I fear the Dems will capitulate.


As much as we all expect them to flop, I think the Democrats have finally realized this and will stand against the tea derpers. When facing a government shutdown, as was in 95, the Democrats will hold strong
 
2013-09-30 09:54:40 AM  

Heraclitus: Gee, what a surprise, no plan B.


You're surprised the anti-abortion party doesn't have Plan B?
 
2013-09-30 10:00:10 AM  
One optimistic Republican, echoing many others, said that a delay ought to be agreeable since the GOP had started out with a much more extreme position. "You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).


/facepalm

Leela: The segregation of the mutant people ends today. We demand equal rights, equal access to the surface, and the blood of your first-born children.  [Softly. To Raoul.] That so we have something to give up at the negotiations.
 
2013-09-30 10:02:06 AM  
bundae.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-30 10:05:14 AM  
i.imgur.com

National Funk Congress Deadlocked On Get Up/Get Down Issue

CHOCOLATE CITY-After months of ceaseless debate, including last week's record 76-hour filibuster slap-bass solo from Senate Rubber Band Minority Leader Bootsy Collins (D-OH), the National Funk Congress is no closer to resolving its deadlock over the controversial "get up/get down" issue, insiders reported Monday.  "Get up-uh, get on up! Get up-uh, get on up!" shouted Getuplican Party supporters on the steps of the Capitol as the debate, as well as a massive 14-piece instrumental jam, raged within. The pro-up-getting demonstrators' chants were nearly drowned out by those of a nearby group of jungle-boogie Downocrats, who called upon all citizens to "Get down, get down!"The bitter "get up/get down" battle, which has polarized the nation's funk community, is part of a long-running battle between the two factions, rooted in more than 35 years of conflict over the direction in which the American people should shake it.

/even more troubling
 
2013-09-30 10:08:05 AM  

Cyclometh: They really think the Senate's gonna blink? What in the actual fark.


This is now bigger than partisanship. It doesn't matter what party's in power. The Senate does not look kindly on being told by the House what to do. It has its own institutional memory and sees itself as above the rabblerousing of the House. It may be good or bad but that's the truth. Now the House is pissing off the Senate qua Senate.
 
2013-09-30 10:08:38 AM  

Aristocles: It's called strateegery.

Read a book sometime.


aramvartian.com
 
2013-09-30 10:10:09 AM  

doyner: Senate, maybe a handful in "purple" states.


The internal war of the Republican Party is now bonding many Senate Republicans against Cruz and the House. It doesn't matter so much about the Dems.
 
2013-09-30 10:15:17 AM  

LandOfChocolate: They're belatedly trying to control the message and spin this in their favor.

The absolute GALL they have to try to blame this on the Democrats and the President is astounding, not to mention the manner in which they're going about this.

One optimistic Republican, echoing many others, said that a delay ought to be agreeable since the GOP had started out with a much more extreme position. "You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).

ARE YOU farkING KIDDING ME?


It's a classic door-in-the-face sales technique.
 
2013-09-30 10:19:58 AM  
"We just need to stand firm. I think we may get Democrats on this," said Rep. Tom Massie (R-Ky.).

It's like watching Roscoe chase the Duke Boys.  The only question is which body of water his car will end up in.

One optimistic Republican, echoing many others, said that a delay ought to be agreeable since the GOP had started out with a much more extreme position. "You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).

See, initially we offered him a huge bowl of shiat, but now we're offering a cup of shiat, so he would be crazy not to accept this deal.
 
2013-09-30 10:22:25 AM  
How dare you. HOW DARE YOU!!
berc.berkeley.edu
Guards! SEIZE HIM!!!
 
2013-09-30 10:24:36 AM  

cman: [ilk.uvt.nl image 591x327]

The computer eventually did learn when to give up. These farktards are delusional.


Moral of Story: If at first you don't succeed, give up. No not strive to overcome any obstacles. Submit that you are a Fail at everything and never even try.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-30 10:25:55 AM  
You really have to wonder what the thought process of these morons are, at this point:

"Bill, it's the big day! We sent back a proposal that once again asked for everything we want, while demanding our opponents give up everything they want, and this time we think they will agree to our skillful negotiation because Magic. What do the polls say, Bill, what's our Q rating?"

"Well, 9 out of 10 CEO's describe themselves as 'aghast', every small business we call to discuss our platform tell us to 'Light yourself on fire', Wall Street is essentially telling us that stocks will plummet if we go through with this, and in every poll we take with ordinary citizens, the most popular answer ends up being a write-in option, 'I hope you get Super Aids and die'."

"I see. The message is clear, Bill...a secret message, that is. Obviously the respondents fear reprisal from the Main Stream Media, so they are coding their responses of 'Atta boy, go get 'em' and 'We're behind you100%'. Bill, tell the people manning the phones to start acknowledging these secret messages in some way, maybe touching their knows or winking knowingly."

"They don't use video phones, sir."

"You know I'm not a computer geek Bill, I didn't understand any of that. Anyway, I'm off to our secret underground lair to fornicate with St. Reagan's mummified penis."
 
2013-09-30 10:26:29 AM  

xxcorydxx: Diogenes: xxcorydxx: Aristocles: House Republicans Really Believe Democrats Will Cave On Obamacare To Avoid A Government Shutdown

This is a moot point as the teabagger want a govt shut down and they want Obamacare to be defunded/repealed/improved.

It's really a win-win for teabagger.

Checkmate, BOB.

so, I was on vacation for a week and a half and didn't get on here at all, I see you're still trying that BOB thing, has it caught on yet?

also, after thinking about it, I've come to the conclusion that you really are the most brilliant troll there is on here, most of your posts are so comically nonsensical that I'm thinking you're just doing a bad character.

Bravo, sir.

The GOP is flushing the country down the toilet and he thinks it's a good time for more schtick.  It's sickening.

for what it's worth, I really don't believe that any of the people selling the GOP message actually believe it, since it's gotten so far out there. The smart ones (the ones that are making the money) are just putting on an act to get rich.

it's really turned into pro wrestling, and the american people are too farking stupid to see that it's fake.

we should be ashamed of ourselves.


It's still real to me...
 
2013-09-30 10:26:34 AM  
berc.berkeley.edu

All of you! Dungeon! 7 years, no trials!
 
2013-09-30 10:27:59 AM  
farm5.static.flickr.com

/hot
 
2013-09-30 10:29:09 AM  

jayhawk88: You really have to wonder what the thought process of these morons are, at this point:


Not really. It's relatively simple. "We have tons of money and power, and we want more of it. Figure out the best way to do that. And if anyone stands in our way, we'll just burn everything to the ground in the hopes that we can catch them in the flames."
 
2013-09-30 10:29:55 AM  

jayhawk88: "Well, 9 out of 10 CEO's describe themselves as 'aghast', every small business we call to discuss our platform tell us to 'Light yourself on fire', Wall Street is essentially telling us that stocks will plummet if we go through with this, and in every poll we take with ordinary citizens, the most popular answer ends up being a write-in option, 'I hope you get Super Aids and die'."


Thanks for the laugh.
 
2013-09-30 10:30:50 AM  
You know, when people are sick, waiting a year isn't good.
 
2013-09-30 10:32:04 AM  

Kome: jayhawk88: You really have to wonder what the thought process of these morons are, at this point:

Not really. It's relatively simple. "We have tons of money and power, and we want more of it. Figure out the best way to do that. And if anyone stands in our way, we'll just burn everything to the ground in the hopes that we can catch them in the flames."


That, and, "If it goes into effect and it's not a disaster, our bluff is officially called and we're farked in 2014 and 2016."

Plus, they've given us nothing other than obstruction and rhetoric.  Fighting Obama in general and the ACA specifically is quite literally ALL they have.
 
2013-09-30 10:33:51 AM  

Mentat: "We just need to stand firm. I think we may get Democrats on this," said Rep. Tom Massie (R-Ky.).

It's like watching Roscoe chase the Duke Boys.  The only question is which body of water his car will end up in.

One optimistic Republican, echoing many others, said that a delay ought to be agreeable since the GOP had started out with a much more extreme position. "You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).

See, initially we offered him a huge bowl of shiat, but now we're offering a cup of shiat, so he would be crazy not to accept this deal.


Well said.  The way I have been explaining it to people is similar.  If someone comes up and begins kicking you in the nuts, but after a while they offer to only kick you in the shin, in exchange for your wallet, it may seem like a better deal, but you're still being kicked, and you're still being robbed.
 
2013-09-30 10:39:49 AM  

Aristocles: House Republicans Really Believe Democrats Will Cave On Obamacare To Avoid A Government Shutdown

This is a moot point as the teabagger want a govt shut down and they want Obamacare to be defunded/repealed/improved.

It's really a win-win for teabagger.

Checkmate, BOB.


Known troll once per thread.
 
2013-09-30 10:40:42 AM  
One optimistic Republican, echoing many others, said that a delay ought to be agreeable since the GOP had started out with a much more extreme position. "You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.)

"See, we went from wanting to kill you to just wanting to beat the shiat out of you and rape you.  That's a huge concession on our part, you know."
 
2013-09-30 10:41:45 AM  

AnonAmbientLight: Aristocles: House Republicans Really Believe Democrats Will Cave On Obamacare To Avoid A Government Shutdown

This is a moot point as the teabagger want a govt shut down and they want Obamacare to be defunded/repealed/improved.

It's really a win-win for teabagger.

Checkmate, BOB.

Known troll once per thread.


Could you please stop quoting the obvious trolls?  We have them on ignore for a reason.
 
2013-09-30 10:42:29 AM  

Alphax: You know, when people are sick, waiting a year isn't good.


This.  They are literally playing with people's lives.
 
2013-09-30 10:46:30 AM  

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2013-09-30 10:48:38 AM  

jayhawk88: You really have to wonder what the thought process of these morons are, at this point:

"Bill, it's the big day! We sent back a proposal that once again asked for everything we want, while demanding our opponents give up everything they want, and this time we think they will agree to our skillful negotiation because Magic. What do the polls say, Bill, what's our Q rating?"

"Well, 9 out of 10 CEO's describe themselves as 'aghast', every small business we call to discuss our platform tell us to 'Light yourself on fire', Wall Street is essentially telling us that stocks will plummet if we go through with this, and in every poll we take with ordinary citizens, the most popular answer ends up being a write-in option, 'I hope you get Super Aids and die'."

"I see. The message is clear, Bill...a secret message, that is. Obviously the respondents fear reprisal from the Main Stream Media, so they are coding their responses of 'Atta boy, go get 'em' and 'We're behind you100%'. Bill, tell the people manning the phones to start acknowledging these secret messages in some way, maybe touching their knows or winking knowingly."

"They don't use video phones, sir."

"You know I'm not a computer geek Bill, I didn't understand any of that. Anyway, I'm off to our secret underground lair to fornicate with St. Reagan's mummified penis."


Wisdom from the heart of Brownbeckistan.
Will wonders never cease?
/Farking brilliant.
 
2013-09-30 10:50:42 AM  
 
2013-09-30 10:51:00 AM  

qorkfiend: AngryDragon: You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.

How? The voters routinely fail to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in office. The shutdown and impeachment in the 90s had absolutely no short-term effect on the balance of power, and by 2002 the GOP was in full control of both elected branches of government. I have serious doubts that the GOP's actions this time around will come at a significant electoral price.


This. For all the caterwauling about the GOP relegating itself to a regional party, a lot of you underestimate the size of those regions. And their loyalty.
 
2013-09-30 10:57:40 AM  

verbaltoxin: qorkfiend: AngryDragon: You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.

How? The voters routinely fail to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in office. The shutdown and impeachment in the 90s had absolutely no short-term effect on the balance of power, and by 2002 the GOP was in full control of both elected branches of government. I have serious doubts that the GOP's actions this time around will come at a significant electoral price.

This. For all the caterwauling about the GOP relegating itself to a regional party, a lot of you underestimate the size of those regions. And their loyalty.


You can't gerrymander your way into the WH, nor into controlling the Senate.
 
2013-09-30 11:02:21 AM  

Edymnion: Lets just get right down to it.
http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declare-tea-party-terrorist -o rganization/StzZGtNG


Signed, and damn proud to do it.

These assholes should be charged with sedition.
 
2013-09-30 11:08:07 AM  

Aristocles: House Republicans Really Believe Democrats Will Cave On Obamacare To Avoid A Government Shutdown

This is a moot point as the teabagger want a govt shut down and they want Obamacare to be defunded/repealed/improved.

It's really a win-win for teabagger.

Checkmate, BOB.


Dear, I know you get a lot of responses but, and I think I speak for everyone when I say this, no one gives the slightest fark what you think about anything.  But bless your heart for trying.
 
2013-09-30 11:15:57 AM  

un4gvn666: Edymnion: Lets just get right down to it.
http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declare-tea-party-terrorist -o rganization/StzZGtNG

Signed, and damn proud to do it.

These assholes should be charged with sedition.


Share it around.

I don't honestly think it'll go far enough to get anywhere near the 100k signatures required for official white house response, but damn would it be hilarious if it did.
 
2013-09-30 11:22:54 AM  

Edymnion: un4gvn666: Edymnion: Lets just get right down to it.
http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declare-tea-party-terrorist -o rganization/StzZGtNG

Signed, and damn proud to do it.

These assholes should be charged with sedition.

Share it around.

I don't honestly think it'll go far enough to get anywhere near the 100k signatures required for official white house response, but damn would it be hilarious if it did.


its at 99,994 now, hope im the 100K.
 
2013-09-30 11:23:19 AM  

Infernalist: verbaltoxin: qorkfiend: AngryDragon: You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.

How? The voters routinely fail to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in office. The shutdown and impeachment in the 90s had absolutely no short-term effect on the balance of power, and by 2002 the GOP was in full control of both elected branches of government. I have serious doubts that the GOP's actions this time around will come at a significant electoral price.

This. For all the caterwauling about the GOP relegating itself to a regional party, a lot of you underestimate the size of those regions. And their loyalty.

You can't gerrymander your way into the WH, nor into controlling the Senate.


Right now the GOP are proving they don't need control there to f*ck up our government.
 
2013-09-30 11:24:27 AM  

qorkfiend: urbangirl: The Republicans know the ACA will actually work and people will like it.  If they get a year delay, they can continue to play the "ooga-booga" card through the 2014 election cycle.  If they don't, they got nuthin.

It's no more complicated than that.

If they get the year delay, they'll just ask for another year delay when next year's budget negotiations start.


Of course they will - if we give in, they'll just hold the budget and debt ceiling hostage again and again. You know, like a couple of years ago, when Boehner got "98%" of what he wanted, and blamed the whole thing on the Democrats. Compromise, indeed.

I seriously don't understand why people don't get the analogy here: the GOP is North Korea in this negotiation. They're threatening to nuke us and claim it's all our fault, that we're forcing them to.
 
2013-09-30 11:24:30 AM  

deanis: Edymnion: un4gvn666: Edymnion: Lets just get right down to it.
http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declare-tea-party-terrorist -o rganization/StzZGtNG

Signed, and damn proud to do it.

These assholes should be charged with sedition.

Share it around.

I don't honestly think it'll go far enough to get anywhere near the 100k signatures required for official white house response, but damn would it be hilarious if it did.

its at 99,994 now, hope im the 100K.


NM, it needs 99,994. Stoopid Mondays.
 
2013-09-30 11:26:29 AM  
STOP! CALLING! HIM! BOB!
i42.tinypic.com
 
2013-09-30 11:26:54 AM  

Infernalist: verbaltoxin: qorkfiend: AngryDragon: You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.

How? The voters routinely fail to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in office. The shutdown and impeachment in the 90s had absolutely no short-term effect on the balance of power, and by 2002 the GOP was in full control of both elected branches of government. I have serious doubts that the GOP's actions this time around will come at a significant electoral price.

This. For all the caterwauling about the GOP relegating itself to a regional party, a lot of you underestimate the size of those regions. And their loyalty.

You can't gerrymander your way into the WH, nor into controlling the Senate.


You certainly can gerrymander your way into the White House, by simply allotting electoral votes by Congressional district.

The Senate's a tougher nut to crack, but in theory you could gerrymander the state legislative districts to approve the amendment necessary to change direct election...
 
2013-09-30 11:29:06 AM  

verbaltoxin: Infernalist: verbaltoxin: qorkfiend: AngryDragon: You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.

How? The voters routinely fail to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in office. The shutdown and impeachment in the 90s had absolutely no short-term effect on the balance of power, and by 2002 the GOP was in full control of both elected branches of government. I have serious doubts that the GOP's actions this time around will come at a significant electoral price.

This. For all the caterwauling about the GOP relegating itself to a regional party, a lot of you underestimate the size of those regions. And their loyalty.

You can't gerrymander your way into the WH, nor into controlling the Senate.

Right now the GOP are proving they don't need control there to f*ck up our government.


And that sort of obstinate obstructionism has consequences.  The 'Do-Nothing' Republican Congress of the 1940s was soon followed by 40 years of the Congress being controlled by the Democrats.

Those that ignore history....
 
2013-09-30 11:34:59 AM  

Infernalist: verbaltoxin: Infernalist: verbaltoxin: qorkfiend: AngryDragon: You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.

How? The voters routinely fail to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in office. The shutdown and impeachment in the 90s had absolutely no short-term effect on the balance of power, and by 2002 the GOP was in full control of both elected branches of government. I have serious doubts that the GOP's actions this time around will come at a significant electoral price.

This. For all the caterwauling about the GOP relegating itself to a regional party, a lot of you underestimate the size of those regions. And their loyalty.

You can't gerrymander your way into the WH, nor into controlling the Senate.

Right now the GOP are proving they don't need control there to f*ck up our government.

And that sort of obstinate obstructionism has consequences.  The 'Do-Nothing' Republican Congress of the 1940s was soon followed by 40 years of the Congress being controlled by the Democrats.

Those that ignore history....


I don't know if the 40s are really analogous. In the late 40s, the Democrats had just successfully led the country through the Great Depression and World War II (not to mention that Republican economic mismanagement and Hoovervilles were a living memory to pretty much the entire voting population) and so the Democrats had a large surplus of political goodwill to tap. Modern Democrats have no similar track record of success.
 
2013-09-30 11:35:13 AM  
If the ACA isn't funded out of this budget, and the exchanges will still go live this week regardless of the shutdown, what the holy fark does this actually accomplish other than:

 - sate teabaggers
 - hurt a fragile economy
 - hurt average Americans

???

You're a RINO if you don't do something loud and self-destructive but ultimately meaningless?!?
 
2013-09-30 11:35:15 AM  
The House of Representatives, ladies and gentlemen, in a nutshell.

They don't care about you. Most of these assholes think that they're in the fight of their lives, struggling against evil to uphold their ideological purity, even at the expense of actual dead Americans. The others are just impotent, aghast at the damage caused by the GOP tafurs now running the House.

The Republicans in the House have just screwed America, deliberately, because they think that they can get away with it. That's their only reason for it.

The fun part? The Republicans in the Senate love this shiat. Why? Because, come 2014 & 2016, those Senators are going to look like moderate statesmen compared to the poo-flinging morons currently running the House. The majority in the House is safe enough to allow them to do this - the Senate's another matter. So, the Senate can play the straight man to the House's crazy-ass shenanigans and some of them can capitalize on it during their upcoming campaigns.

Just remember, folks - the GOP doesn't care about you. They care about themselves, and the folks paying them. That's it.
 
2013-09-30 11:45:06 AM  

qorkfiend: Infernalist: verbaltoxin: Infernalist: verbaltoxin: qorkfiend: AngryDragon: You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.

How? The voters routinely fail to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in office. The shutdown and impeachment in the 90s had absolutely no short-term effect on the balance of power, and by 2002 the GOP was in full control of both elected branches of government. I have serious doubts that the GOP's actions this time around will come at a significant electoral price.

This. For all the caterwauling about the GOP relegating itself to a regional party, a lot of you underestimate the size of those regions. And their loyalty.

You can't gerrymander your way into the WH, nor into controlling the Senate.

Right now the GOP are proving they don't need control there to f*ck up our government.

And that sort of obstinate obstructionism has consequences.  The 'Do-Nothing' Republican Congress of the 1940s was soon followed by 40 years of the Congress being controlled by the Democrats.

Those that ignore history....

I don't know if the 40s are really analogous. In the late 40s, the Democrats had just successfully led the country through the Great Depression and World War II (not to mention that Republican economic mismanagement and Hoovervilles were a living memory to pretty much the entire voting population) and so the Democrats had a large surplus of political goodwill to tap. Modern Democrats have no similar track record of success.


I don't know if the last 5 years are really analogous.  In the last 5 years, the Democrats have managed to successfully lead the country through the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression and two GOP-instigated wars(not to mention the GOP economic and military mismanagement).
 
2013-09-30 11:50:09 AM  

d23: The failure of the average voter to see all the puppetry going on right now just blows my mind.


during a phone conversation yesterday a good friends said: "what government shutdown?" now i know she isn't a fan of the evening news and certainly not the political junky i am but DAMN how can you not know this is in the news.
 
2013-09-30 11:58:33 AM  

Infernalist: qorkfiend: Infernalist: verbaltoxin: Infernalist: verbaltoxin: qorkfiend: AngryDragon: You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.

How? The voters routinely fail to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in office. The shutdown and impeachment in the 90s had absolutely no short-term effect on the balance of power, and by 2002 the GOP was in full control of both elected branches of government. I have serious doubts that the GOP's actions this time around will come at a significant electoral price.

This. For all the caterwauling about the GOP relegating itself to a regional party, a lot of you underestimate the size of those regions. And their loyalty.

You can't gerrymander your way into the WH, nor into controlling the Senate.

Right now the GOP are proving they don't need control there to f*ck up our government.

And that sort of obstinate obstructionism has consequences.  The 'Do-Nothing' Republican Congress of the 1940s was soon followed by 40 years of the Congress being controlled by the Democrats.

Those that ignore history....

I don't know if the 40s are really analogous. In the late 40s, the Democrats had just successfully led the country through the Great Depression and World War II (not to mention that Republican economic mismanagement and Hoovervilles were a living memory to pretty much the entire voting population) and so the Democrats had a large surplus of political goodwill to tap. Modern Democrats have no similar track record of success.

I don't know if the last 5 years are really analogous.  In the last 5 years, the Democrats have managed to successfully lead the country through the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression and two GOP-instigated wars(not to mention the GOP economic and military mismanagement).


Well, sure, but I don't think a lot of people would agree that modern Democratic economic stewardship has been the populist success that the New Deal was, or that the turmoil in the Middle East represents the level of crisis that World War II did.
 
2013-09-30 12:05:44 PM  

qorkfiend: Infernalist: qorkfiend: Infernalist: verbaltoxin: Infernalist: verbaltoxin: qorkfiend: AngryDragon: You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.

How? The voters routinely fail to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in office. The shutdown and impeachment in the 90s had absolutely no short-term effect on the balance of power, and by 2002 the GOP was in full control of both elected branches of government. I have serious doubts that the GOP's actions this time around will come at a significant electoral price.

This. For all the caterwauling about the GOP relegating itself to a regional party, a lot of you underestimate the size of those regions. And their loyalty.

You can't gerrymander your way into the WH, nor into controlling the Senate.

Right now the GOP are proving they don't need control there to f*ck up our government.

And that sort of obstinate obstructionism has consequences.  The 'Do-Nothing' Republican Congress of the 1940s was soon followed by 40 years of the Congress being controlled by the Democrats.

Those that ignore history....

I don't know if the 40s are really analogous. In the late 40s, the Democrats had just successfully led the country through the Great Depression and World War II (not to mention that Republican economic mismanagement and Hoovervilles were a living memory to pretty much the entire voting population) and so the Democrats had a large surplus of political goodwill to tap. Modern Democrats have no similar track record of success.

I don't know if the last 5 years are really analogous.  In the last 5 years, the Democrats have managed to successfully lead the country through the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression and two GOP-instigated wars(not to mention the GOP economic and military mismanagement).

Well, sure, but I don't think a lot of people would agree that modern Democratic economic ...


Do we need to drop a couple of atom bombs on Syria, maybe?

I mean, the Democrats have already pushed through their version of Social Security/Medicare.  Shepherded us through a number of military actions and got us out of two wars...Led us through the 2008 economic meltdown...

I suspect that the only ones not impressed with the Democratic efforts over the last 5 years are people who are never going to like the Democrats, no matter what they do.
 
2013-09-30 12:06:09 PM  
""You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.). "

I'll give you three guesses to what the GOP will do in 12 months if this proposal is accepted and the first two don't count.
 
2013-09-30 12:09:25 PM  

red230: ""You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.). "

I'll give you three guesses to what the GOP will do in 12 months if this proposal is accepted and the first two don't count.


In twelve months, they think they'll control the Senate and be able to force the President to veto their DEFUND OBAMACARE NOW bill, bill after bill after bill, until 2016.
 
2013-09-30 12:23:17 PM  
I heard Boehner on NPR a little while ago.. something about how 'the House did its job on Saturday night, the American People have spoken, and we've acted to help the millions of people suffering under Obamacare.'

Yes, I SCREAMED at the radio.  And of course, no one on NPR said anything about how incredibly dishonest and full of shiat it was.
 
2013-09-30 12:38:41 PM  

red230: ""You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.). "

I'll give you three guesses to what the GOP will do in 12 months if this proposal is accepted and the first two don't count.


Just extend the Bush tax cuts a little longer. Come on, that's fair - right? It's not like we're trying to make them permanent! Just a little longer...
 
2013-09-30 12:52:24 PM  

Alphax: I heard Boehner on NPR a little while ago.. something about how 'the House did its job on Saturday night, the American People have spoken, and we've acted to help the millions of people suffering under Obamacare.'

Yes, I SCREAMED at the radio.  And of course, no one on NPR said anything about how incredibly dishonest and full of shiat it was.


First: I would've said "John, stop hitting the bottle."
Second: I would've said "You mean like on Election Night last year John?"
 
2013-09-30 01:01:11 PM  
Man these fools know they're selling a train full of bullshiat. You can tell by just watching them talk about it. The thing is it's the only train they've got right now so they're willing to ride it all the way out.
 
2013-09-30 01:01:17 PM  

Aristocles: House Republicans Really Believe Democrats Will Cave On Obamacare To Avoid A Government Shutdown

This is a moot point as the teabagger want a govt shut down and they want Obamacare to be defunded/repealed/improved.

It's really a win-win for teabagger.

Checkmate, BOB.


thanks ASS, i figured you would be here spamming
 
2013-09-30 01:08:57 PM  

Diogenes: If the ACA isn't funded out of this budget, and the exchanges will still go live this week regardless of the shutdown, what the holy fark does this actually accomplish other than:

 - sate teabaggers
 - hurt a fragile economy
 - hurt average Americans

???

You're a RINO if you don't do something loud and self-destructive but ultimately meaningless?!?


Even though a lot of these idiots are from deep red districts and thus safe from any real Dem challenger, never underestimate the chances of the GOP to dig up someone even more crazy to challenge them from the right if they 'support' the ACA.

And that's the cycle of life in today's GOP.  The crazies trying to out crazy the people that are more crazy.
 
2013-09-30 01:14:03 PM  

red230: ""You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.). "

I'll give you three guesses to what the GOP will do in 12 months if this proposal is accepted and the first two don't count.


Tax cuts for the top 1%?
 
2013-09-30 01:14:40 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Moral of Story: If at first you don't succeed, give up. No not strive to overcome any obstacles. Submit that you are a Fail at everything and never even try.


At first?  You mean the 40+ failed bills to repeal, a failed Presidential candidacy centered on getting rid of the ACA, and the farking Supreme Court upholding the law aren't enough?

Farking 'at first' my ass.  We're in the realm of one of those Japanese soldiers still fighting World War 2 fifteen years after the war's end on some rock in the middle of the Pacific.
 
2013-09-30 01:15:36 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Diogenes: If the ACA isn't funded out of this budget, and the exchanges will still go live this week regardless of the shutdown, what the holy fark does this actually accomplish other than:

 - sate teabaggers
 - hurt a fragile economy
 - hurt average Americans

???

You're a RINO if you don't do something loud and self-destructive but ultimately meaningless?!?

Even though a lot of these idiots are from deep red districts and thus safe from any real Dem challenger, never underestimate the chances of the GOP to dig up someone even more crazy to challenge them from the right if they 'support' the ACA.

And that's the cycle of life in today's GOP.  The crazies trying to out crazy the people that are more crazy.


Whenever a party becomes solely about ideological purity, it is destined for the dust bins of history.
 
2013-09-30 01:21:50 PM  

Caffienatedjedi: Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).



As a resident of NJ, let me apologize for this dumbfark. You should read his wikipedia page sometime. Every other sentence is "He was the only NJ rep to vote against/for this." For farks sake, dude voted AGAINST Sandy relief.
 
2013-09-30 01:33:42 PM  
Remember kids, when you paint yourself into a corner, the best response is "NO YOU!"

40% of the time, it works every time...
 
2013-09-30 01:41:38 PM  

qorkfiend: Well, sure, but I don't think a lot of people would agree that modern Democratic economic stewardship has been the populist success that the New Deal was, or that the turmoil in the Middle East represents the level of crisis that World War II did.


You know that a lot of people are not very bright when you can find the facts on FoxBusiness that give the lie to their beliefs.
 
2013-09-30 01:43:06 PM  
Here's what I love:
This is just what the Republicans wanted for a 2 month budget extension.    This is just what they wanted FOR TWO farkING MONTHS.

Which means they were fully intending for asking for more before the year was even out.
 
2013-09-30 01:46:32 PM  

hubiestubert: Remember kids, when you paint yourself into a corner, the best response is "NO YOU!"
40% of the time, it works every time...


Sadly, it does.
It used to be that when you knew you were wrong, you admitted fault, took your earned lumps, and moved forward.
Now? There's even a wiki for derpling down and doing the wrong thing.
 
2013-09-30 01:59:03 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: hubiestubert: Remember kids, when you paint yourself into a corner, the best response is "NO YOU!"
40% of the time, it works every time...

Sadly, it does.
It used to be that when you knew you were wrong, you admitted fault, took your earned lumps, and moved forward.
Now? There's even a wiki for derpling down and doing the wrong thing.


It helps when you have a news network, and publishing houses to retcon what you've said, and its context constantly. Of course, there's the chance that folks have access to sources that have actually recorded what you've said, that aren't edited with the offending bits out, but then again, you just have to attack the credibility of those sources, especially for being ideologically motivated, and then substitute your own sources with the edited versions, and then claim that the bits just don't matter, because the crux of the argument remains the same.

Yes, it's disingenuous, but the Rove model is to win, and a LOT of folks have followed the somewhat ethically plastic method, because it works on the rubes. And it works, because people like to win, and they like to see their side win. Our politics today are less and less about actual issues, but more about being on the winning team, and seeing your Representatives and Congresscritters as fantasy league players. It doesn't really do the public discourse much good, and it has seen a LOT of really crappy stuff get passed without much fuss or bother--or rather, the folks who might actually be interested in seeing it, don't because their main source for news refuses to report anything that might show their team in a bad light.

Our media at this time is not quite broken, but it's damaged fair heavy, and folks like its damaged features far too much to ever think about fixing it, or even suggesting that it needs to be addressed. Unless of course, they are getting hammered by OTHER sources that folks might not be able to escape from, then they demand "fair" treatment. Mind you, these are folks who really have been pleased by a fall of the fairness doctrine, but boy howdy do they like to try to invoke it when their own words come around to bite them on the ass...
 
2013-09-30 02:31:42 PM  

jayhawk88: You really have to wonder what the thought process of these morons are, at this point:

"Bill, it's the big day! We sent back a proposal that once again asked for everything we want, while demanding our opponents give up everything they want, and this time we think they will agree to our skillful negotiation because Magic. What do the polls say, Bill, what's our Q rating?"

"Well, 9 out of 10 CEO's describe themselves as 'aghast', every small business we call to discuss our platform tell us to 'Light yourself on fire', Wall Street is essentially telling us that stocks will plummet if we go through with this, and in every poll we take with ordinary citizens, the most popular answer ends up being a write-in option, 'I hope you get Super Aids and die'."

"I see. The message is clear, Bill...a secret message, that is. Obviously the respondents fear reprisal from the Main Stream Media, so they are coding their responses of 'Atta boy, go get 'em' and 'We're behind you100%'. Bill, tell the people manning the phones to start acknowledging these secret messages in some way, maybe touching their knows or winking knowingly."

"They don't use video phones, sir."

"You know I'm not a computer geek Bill, I didn't understand any of that. Anyway, I'm off to our secret underground lair to fornicate with St. Reagan's mummified penis."


The more I read your post, the harder I laugh.

/so glad I'm on break in my car right now
 
2013-09-30 02:33:37 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: TV's Vinnie: Moral of Story: If at first you don't succeed, give up. No not strive to overcome any obstacles. Submit that you are a Fail at everything and never even try.

At first?  You mean the 40+ failed bills to repeal, a failed Presidential candidacy centered on getting rid of the ACA, and the farking Supreme Court upholding the law aren't enough?

Farking 'at first' my ass.  We're in the realm of one of those Japanese soldiers still fighting World War 2 fifteen years after the war's end on some rock in the middle of the Pacific.


I find the idea of just giving up not only weak but somewhat conformist. The gop are dipsh*ts for trying to push this again and again (and their stupidity amuses me and helps let the rest of the world know how much Fail they are), but I won't tell anyone to just give up on anything. That's defeatist.
 
2013-09-30 04:34:23 PM  

doyner: yukichigai: d23: Ricardo Klement: The geniuses in the Tea Party are just gunning to minimize the 2014 midterm gains.

If they are working for the Democrats then they *are* all geniuses.  Somehow I doubt that's the case.

The Tea Party is performance art that failed to properly establish itself as satire, thus attracting a following of confused, delusional people who thought the original performers were actually serious.  My years long hatred of performance art in all its forms has been thoroughly vindicated since 2010.

The TP movement was a brilliant, well-orchistrated push to get states to elect Republican legislators and governors who would gerrymander the shiat outta their states.  It worked.  Now they're safe to pull this crap without reprocussions.

Performance art?  Yup...major league performance art.


d23: AngryDragon: FTA: "Much of the GOP thinking seems to be rooted in the fact that Obama has already delayed some provisions. So why not delay the whole law? "

See Democrats?  Those of us who are prior Republicans tried to tell you.  Dealing with a conservative is like dealing with a teenager.  If you give in on something it is NOT seen as rational compromise.  It is seen as weakness.  It doesn't foster cooperation it encourages more conflict.

You all really need to learn how to set and maintain boundaries with these dirtbags.  Smack them down once, hard.  It will be a long time before they rise again.

I don't really like the "teenager" analogy, basically because the majority of teenagers I've known in my life have MUCH better reasoning ability than people in the tea party.
&##x22ee;


Stop calling them that!!

That name was already taken years before they even formed! They're not entitled to that name!

Call them by the name that they chose themselves at their founding, knowing full well what it meant:

"Teabaggers."
 
2013-09-30 10:05:07 PM  

farker99: SilentStrider: Issa needs to be locked in a padded room far away from sharp objects.

The only problem is that the folks he represents think he is sane.

Completely sane. So just think about the people in Eastern San Diego County for a minute in that light and then you understand why they think having BlackWater open a training camp is good for the area.


It is an act. Watch Issa on Bill Maher's show, he doesn't get this energized or derpy
 
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